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Dec 21, 2007 2:12 AM
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Hopefully its Sasuke against Itachi next chapter. I wouldn't mind it to see what happens with Tobi as well. Anyway, not much going on in this chapter. However, Kishi does mark Jiraiya's final farewell.
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I was sorry to see Jiraiya go. T_T but Im dreading this fight coming up between Sauske and Itachi. Mainly because Im afraid Sauske hasn't healed up to 100% yet. Also I was a little disappointed when I heard Pain's master plan. Destroying the world with a super weapon is so generic evil. I suppose it will work though. I was happy to see Hinata and Naruto working together finally!!
Dec 21, 2007 3:54 PM
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This chapter was that good. Jiraiaya is definately dead and I want 2 see Madara and who is that guy helpin out Pain and who is Tobi? SO many questions lol
Dec 21, 2007 3:59 PM
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Yeah pretty good chapter, really weird to see Jiraiya that serious up till now. So are the numbers on the frog referring to pages in his book then or something?
Dec 21, 2007 4:28 PM
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Lofoc said:
Yeah pretty good chapter, really weird to see Jiraiya that serious up till now. So are the numbers on the frog referring to pages in his book then or something?


That is a good thought, it could be :P
I am sad about Jaraiya's fate... it intrigued me that Pain said that he won because Jiraiya did not know his secret, i am curious what it s and if the battles outcome would have been different!
Dec 21, 2007 4:28 PM
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Finally, an appearance by Zetsu! the arguement between the two personalities made me even more intrigued about the guy.

Lofoc said:
So are the numbers on the frog referring to pages in his book then or something?


My first thoughts were that the identity of each of the 6 Peins is written to a corresponding page number of his novel. since there were 7 numbers, one of indicate the page in which Pein's true identity is written.

Dec 21, 2007 5:51 PM
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Awesome chap... what's up with those brothers and their comeback lines? lol... looking forward to the next chap


Dec 21, 2007 6:59 PM
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could this mean tobi is madara?
coz the only one who asked pain to get the nine tails was tobi..that's when he arrived after deidara died..
Dec 21, 2007 7:23 PM
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Jiraiya is not dead I have faith, and if he is dead, man it just wasn't the same as when the 4th died and Asuma just had more emotions going around. I'm just have the feeling Kishimoto is rushing everyone just to be done with Naruto.
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Hawaiian420 said:
Jiraiya is not dead I have faith, and if he is dead, man it just wasn't the same as when the 4th died and Asuma just had more emotions going around. I'm just have the feeling Kishimoto is rushing everyone just to be done with Naruto.


Jiraiya needs to be dead. It gives extra incentive to Naruto to kick more ass.

*Crosses fingers for Sasuke vs. Itachi next chapter.*
Dec 21, 2007 11:06 PM

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Next Chapter: Tobi Defeats all 8 Konoha Ninjas!
Dec 22, 2007 2:23 AM
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to nuge,

post some links..and dont post spoilers again
Dec 22, 2007 5:56 AM

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Oh my... Such an exciting chapter!! I feel so sorry for poor Jiraiya-san... I really didn't want him to die. But I have faith in Kishimoto-sensei's plans ^^

And finally, Naruto and the others appeared again! I wonder what'll happen with them now... And Sasuke....And Itachi... The final battle will begin!! >___< I was so looking forward to this, but now I'm a little hesitant...

Awesome chapter! Can't wait for the next one!



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Dec 22, 2007 6:16 AM

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Hawaiian420 said:
Jiraiya is not dead I have faith, and if he is dead, man it just wasn't the same as when the 4th died and Asuma just had more emotions going around. I'm just have the feeling Kishimoto is rushing everyone just to be done with Naruto.

I have a sneaking suspicion he's not dead either, just waiting down there in that pool like frogs do. There's probably some pretty heavy symbolism going on with that frog jumping into the water next to Tsunade and reflecting the images of the Hokages, but I'm not smart enough to figure it out. Plus, we didn't get the "shounen moment" where, at the moment of death, Naruto "felt" something, but wasn't sure what it was. :)

Buuuut . . . if he is dead, it wasn't a bad death at all. Very nice chapter.
Dec 22, 2007 8:25 AM

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*sob* Jiraiya *sob*
Finally back to emo brothers! Please, let it be emo fight! Please!


Dec 22, 2007 11:42 AM

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to nuge,

post some links..and dont post spoilers again

Are you joking? How is it a spoiler if nobody knows what happened yet, it was a joke idiot.
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XD hopefully finally in the next chapter get to see the fight btween Itachi & Sasuke, been waiting very patiently, lol!

but it was a good chapter, shame Jiraiya died (well think anyway)
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I hope we finally see Sasuke fight Itachi in the next chapter.
Dec 22, 2007 7:16 PM
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Nuge said:
raphy_angelo said:
to nuge,

post some links..and dont post spoilers again

Are you joking? How is it a spoiler if nobody knows what happened yet, it was a joke idiot.


First of all, stop watching anime, reading manga, go back to school, and write this in your notebook "Naruto Chapter 383 Discussion" and "DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER." There the fine instructors will teach you how to understand simple english.
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It was a joke, wow way to serious, we are discussing if Jiraya is alive and if the emo brothers will fight so just take his "prediction" with the rest.
Glad to see Jiraiya have a good death, glad to see Naruto's fight again, and glad to see the emo brothers will finally fight after way too long of a wait, now if only the other 9 rookies could show up before this show ends.
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Dec 22, 2007 9:57 PM
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384 isn't even out so any prediction is fine. Plus, Nuge's post was a joke. LOLOLOL.
Dec 23, 2007 7:43 AM
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Iri said:
There's probably some pretty heavy symbolism going on with that frog jumping into the water next to Tsunade and reflecting the images of the Hokages, but I'm not smart enough to figure it out.
Isn't that all about Jiraiya being The Thirds student and the Fourths teacher? That he somehow deserves to be between them or something, even though he rejected the title of Hokage at least once. Lol, but yeah guess this chapter really makes more questions then it solves them.
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raphy_angelo said:
Nuge said:
raphy_angelo said:
to nuge,

post some links..and dont post spoilers again

Are you joking? How is it a spoiler if nobody knows what happened yet, it was a joke idiot.


First of all, stop watching anime, reading manga, go back to school, and write this in your notebook "Naruto Chapter 383 Discussion" and "DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER." There the fine instructors will teach you how to understand simple english.


WTF is with the school shit? Hey stupid there isn't anything beyond the chapter yet. I can say Tobi anal raped you in the next chapter, so is that a spoiler?
Dec 23, 2007 9:20 PM

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Okay, we stop there. No more insults beyond this post please. And yes, speculation on future chapters are perfectly fine and are not considered spoilers. The DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER warning is if you were to go to previous Naruto chapter threads for example and post that Jiraiya died in 383. You just can't do that. Anyway, back to Naruto.

Uhh... RIP Jiraiya. I'm glad the whole thing with Jiraiya is over. I'm sorry, but I found it dull. Sasuke and Itachi had better fight in 384, I don't want them to be staring at each other or whatever for the next 10 chapters while we deal with whoever else.
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wah, pervert-sensei is really gone. *sadness*

Sasuke vs Itachi
Naruto and gang vs Tobi

How exciting. I don't care which battle is next, I'm just happy they have the main characters in them.
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ownage21 said:
raphy_angelo said:
Nuge said:
raphy_angelo said:
to nuge,

post some links..and dont post spoilers again

Are you joking? How is it a spoiler if nobody knows what happened yet, it was a joke idiot.


First of all, stop watching anime, reading manga, go back to school, and write this in your notebook "Naruto Chapter 383 Discussion" and "DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER." There the fine instructors will teach you how to understand simple english.


WTF is with the school shit? Hey stupid there isn't anything beyond the chapter yet. I can say Tobi anal raped you in the next chapter, so is that a spoiler?


Don't feed the trolls.
Anyways, this really should put an end to all the debate on if jiraiya is gonna live or not, anyone that still doesnt think he's dead is only fooling themselves.

Sasuke vs Itachi - Don't care in the slightest. Even if he is a main characater, I'd like this series just as much if he didn't exist.

Naruto dream team vs Tobi - Should be interesting, I like Tobi, and it'll be nice to see naruto and hinata fighting together.
Dec 24, 2007 12:20 AM

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Tobi wins!
Dec 24, 2007 1:47 PM

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This chapter was great.

Even though Jiraiya died, it seems that Itachi and Sasuke will fight in the next chapter. I doubt it though, because Masashi has a tendency to drawn these things out.
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GO FUKKEN ITACHI
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Jiraiya's death made me sad, but I guess it had to be done. <.<; Maybe Naruto will go like Sasuke and be all revengeful. j/k And the emo brothers fight begins. o.o
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Jiraiya's death made me sad, but I guess it had to be done. <.<; Maybe Naruto will go like Sasuke and be all revengeful. j/k And the emo brothers fight begins. o.o
Yeah then Sasuke can put on a green suit and Naruto could add some weight and put on a red suit. Add some catchy music and rename the series to Super Emo Brothers 1 and then they can wrap up the series.....
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Finally, the Sasuke vs Itachi fight will begin (or at least I hope so =P)!
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Hawaiian420 said:
Jiraiya is not dead I have faith, and if he is dead, man it just wasn't the same as when the 4th died and Asuma just had more emotions going around. I'm just have the feeling Kishimoto is rushing everyone just to be done with Naruto.



Yea he is definitely dead from the looks of the chapter. But everytime a Naruto character dies I shed a tear ;( lol. And Jiraiya was one of the crazy characters too
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i suppose that the new arc will be Itachi Vs. Sasuke!!!
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RIP Jiraiya, you were awesome.
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Thus ends the Tale of Jiraiya the Gallant arc and I didn't really care about it. I don't want to come on here and just rag on the series, but nothing here really worked for me. Never really cared for Jiraiya, didn't find the fight interesting and had trouble following the flow of action at times, and a lot of the exposition seemed kinda clunky. Besides, while I like the structure around the prophecy, and think that having Jiraiya spend so much time convinced that Pain was the prophesied disciple only to remember Naruto at the end was a nice way to both give Naruto some importance but to reflect on some poignancy with Jiraiya's life (the emphasis on his failings to his success) I'm not sure I like the decision to turn Naruto into prophecy, a fated being of grand importance. Clearly he was always going to be giving the series is about him, but making it seem like absolutely destiny in the series isn't something I'm fond of. It just feels like it takes something away from the character themselves, from their work and growth. Also, I fond those two toads annoying. Also, wonder what the deal with Pain is because they're treating it like the reveal to his identity is going to be something that the audience will react too strongly. I didn't care for the is it Nagato or Yahiko angle because those were two characters who were seemingly invented throughout the mystery, like they were introduced after the mystery was already established so rather than developing any emotional attachment to them, it just felt like the characters existed in order to create a sense of mystery, rather than characters, the two felt like puzzles pieces. And without emotional investment within those pieces, it's hard to be invested in it. Mystery itself is not compelling enough, at least not here. At least not yet.

On the positive side, I did like that Jiraiya's interrogation method was just tickling them with a feather, and on the chapter in particular, I like the visual story-telling. Jiraiya's sinking into the sea as he dies, the blank panel where he notes the sequel will be Naruto, then only a page or two away, Naruto comes popping out from the water, showing visually a passing of a torch, it was a nice touch and I'm glad Kishimoto still sprinkle's in these kind of visual story-telling touches.
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One of the best fights in the series in my opinion. The story & choreography were outstanding. The way Jiraiya is feeling overwhelmed and had to pull out every one of his cards just to keep up. Really showed how much of a threat Pain was (Building up to the eventual clash with Naruto) while also setting up for Naruto's growth later on.
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Oh, man, his death gave me chills, fuck!

Itachi vs Sasuke coming up!
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Rest in piece. I'm so sad after reading this chapter




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