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Jul 11, 2014 12:55 AM

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No victim, no crime imo
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Tachii said:
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pedophilia is a learned behavior? who said that? it is also orentation just rare and twisted one as well as necrophilia, zoophilia, and so on. and thats a common knoledge. they are most likely born this way.
I've not heard of any evidence to suggest people were born to be like those. I wonder what other kind of stuff you'll spew and calling it common knowledge next.
It is obvious you are born like that, because you can't chose what you are attracted to. Do you like oranges? Did you chose to like oranges? Or did you see an anime where they eat oranges and you started liking oranges? You can't simply chose what to like or dislike. But sure, it would be very convenient if you actually had a choice.
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Jul 11, 2014 2:20 AM

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^this is similar to the argument: does playing violent video games make kids shoot up schools and what not.

I maintain that NO they will not make that happen. they are either

-born like that
-experienced trauma of some sort to make them like that
Jul 11, 2014 2:33 AM

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joey101937 said:
does playing violent video games make kids shoot up schools and what not.



I think it is obvious that video games can't MAKE you do anything. even government can't MAKE us do many things. so how could games have such a power? it is common knoledge.
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Jul 11, 2014 2:52 AM
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What about all the anime girls that are below the age of consent yet still look mature and hot then? That's just as pedophilic to go for, right?


seriously no matter how you look at it's fucking impossible to estimate the age of an anime char regardless of what they look like, and implying this only counts for lolis is just hypocrisy
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Shiratori-san said:
Just like some people are born gay, some are born pedos. They can't help it.
fyi, that's still unfounded. there's no concrete evidence to suggest you're homosexual or paedophilic from birth.

It is obvious you are born like that, because you can't chose what you are attracted to. Do you like oranges? Did you chose to like oranges? Or did you see an anime where they eat oranges and you started liking oranges? You can't simply chose what to like or dislike. But sure, it would be very convenient if you actually had a choice.
the debate of sexual attraction is not related to that topic. have you ever heard the term 'acquired taste'?

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seriously no matter how you look at it's fucking impossible to estimate the age of an anime char regardless of what they look like, and implying this only counts for lolis is just hypocrisy
nonsense. once an art style has been sussed out (which might be the only visual conundrum), you can likely easily thumb the age of a character and more likely than not they'll be around that age range and not some 3000-year-old vampire stuck in a child's body.

for example, i haven't seen the anime from which the character in your signature comes from. however, i'll bet she's 14-16.
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Jul 11, 2014 3:31 AM

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No?

Maybe I dun wanna see some drawn loli pussy, but there are people out there who sure as hell do, and who am I to deny them?

blah blah blah but think of the children blah blah blah muh paedohunting yada yada
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Heredity said:
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Just like some people are born gay, some are born pedos. They can't help it.
fyi, that's still unfounded. there's no concrete evidence to suggest you're homosexual or paedophilic from birth.

It is obvious you are born like that, because you can't chose what you are attracted to. Do you like oranges? Did you chose to like oranges? Or did you see an anime where they eat oranges and you started liking oranges? You can't simply chose what to like or dislike. But sure, it would be very convenient if you actually had a choice.
the debate of sexual attraction is not related to that topic. have you ever heard the term 'acquired taste'?

Now that I think carefully about it... Hmmm... it's true that taste can change overtime. And still using my example, it's also true that if you never see/taste an orange in your whole life, you'll never know if you like or dislike them... It's complicated then... I always assumed people were born gay and pedo from the start...
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Jul 11, 2014 4:24 AM
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Shiratori-san said:
I always assumed people were born gay and pedo from the start...
the lgbt crowd pushes homosexuality as 'natural.'
the anti-lgbt crowd pushes 'choice.'

neither is actually proven, though. all up in the air, so don't ask me which is right. lol.

as for paedophilia being natural, it's too taboo of a subject to be studied properly in that sense. getting a good enough sample size to study would be too hard i'd imagine.

Now that I think carefully about it... Hmmm... it's true that taste can change overtime. And still using my example, it's also true that if you never see/taste an orange in your whole life, you'll never know if you like or dislike them... It's complicated then...
well, for example: i used to hate cucumber and pickles, however recently at a chinese resturaunt i found myself shovelling them down. the same goes for red onion and herbal tea, they're both things i used to find utterly disgusting. i now have them all the time. i know it's anecdotal and therefore not worth much, but if we did have no control over what we liked then i think the broccoli market would likely be dead.

while it's true that taste preferences can change naturally (such as preference of sugary items, which is related to the intensity of the sugar being interpreted by people of different ages), there's also potential mental blocks where you basically tell yourself 'no, i don't like that' and convince yourself to not like it at all.
Jul 11, 2014 4:37 AM

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Shiratori-san said:
it's also true that if you never see/taste an orange in your whole life, you'll never know if you like or dislike them...


I've never f.. with a male but I m certain I would dislike that. you dont need to taste shit to see its not delicious.
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Jul 11, 2014 4:38 AM

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Siscon2000 said:

I've never f.. with a male


It's bad to tell fibs.
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Why would they?
Would you ban petit real gurls as well?
Jul 11, 2014 10:13 AM

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Shiratori-san said:
Tachii said:
I've not heard of any evidence to suggest people were born to be like those. I wonder what other kind of stuff you'll spew and calling it common knowledge next.
It is obvious you are born like that, because you can't chose what you are attracted to. Do you like oranges? Did you chose to like oranges? Or did you see an anime where they eat oranges and you started liking oranges? You can't simply chose what to like or dislike. But sure, it would be very convenient if you actually had a choice.


No actually, you do "choose" it. let me explain, because over the course of your life, you have chosen different things which have led you into liking that sort of thing, so in a sense, it is a choice.

Most things in our lives, e.g our personality, was due to our choices we made which has led us to who we are today. Thus, pedophilia is a choice. People who watch lolicon or shotacon will be brainwashed into the perception that it's ok. How do you think advertisement works, or propaganda? do you think that it's all just a "coincidence" that the german population started viewing Jews as "evil" and viable to be exterminated over time and just by "coincidence" after reading the newspaper articles and flyers produced by Goebbles? (the nazi spin doctor, and propaganda "genius"). No, it was by the spreading of such ideas as ok/good, which started off as just for "fun" seemingly harmless, but when those ideas took root and the people had been exposed to them for a long time, they started believing it, and their morals changed and that's what led them to become nazi followers/supporters. It's not something that just happened over night, but it was through their choices of reading said propaganda leaflets that led them to be like that.

SAME thing as pedophilia. It builds up over time, it's not like you wake up and BAM you're a pedo. no, your choices you made led you to this stage. So if you want there to be more and more pedos in the world, and if you yourself want to be a pedo, then by alllll means, go right ahead and keep fapping to lolicon animes, and by this you will be increasing your chances at becoming a full grown pedo, or at least at seeing the whole pedophilia thing as "ok" or by being like, "well if the child consents" or other pro-pedo ideas. so yeah, have fun at being a child molester.
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Jul 11, 2014 10:24 AM

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KiraieAeterna said:
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blah, blah, blah. Opinions, opinions, opinions.
You're born with pedophilia, you're a pedo from birth. Over time, yes, you can commit a crime related to pedophilia.

Pedophile means sexually attracted to a child, not a person who's committed sexual acts towards a child. (Or in possession of kiddie material)



Jul 11, 2014 10:29 AM

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Since when is loli and shota propaganda, there are manga and a few doujin covering this kind of thing where it's not necessarily glorifying the act and often have tragic endings.


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No actually, you do "choose" it. let me explain, because over the course of your life, you have chosen different things which have led you into liking that sort of thing, so in a sense, it is a choice.

Most things in our lives, e.g our personality, was due to our choices we made which has led us to who we are today. Thus, pedophilia is a choice. People who watch lolicon or shotacon will be brainwashed into the perception that it's ok. How do you think advertisement works, or propaganda? do you think that it's all just a "coincidence" that the german population started viewing Jews as "evil" and viable to be exterminated over time and just by "coincidence" after reading the newspaper articles and flyers produced by Goebbles? (the nazi spin doctor, and propaganda "genius"). No, it was by the spreading of such ideas as ok/good, which started off as just for "fun" seemingly harmless, but when those ideas took root and the people had been exposed to them for a long time, they started believing it, and their morals changed and that's what led them to become nazi followers/supporters. It's not something that just happened over night, but it was through their choices of reading said propaganda leaflets that led them to be like that.

SAME thing as pedophilia. It builds up over time, it's not like you wake up and BAM you're a pedo. no, your choices you made led you to this stage. So if you want there to be more and more pedos in the world, and if you yourself want to be a pedo, then by alllll means, go right ahead and keep fapping to lolicon animes, and by this you will be increasing your chances at becoming a full grown pedo, or at least at seeing the whole pedophilia thing as "ok" or by being like, "well if the child consents" or other pro-pedo ideas. so yeah, have fun at being a child molester.
You're born with pedophilia, you're a pedo from birth. Over time, yes, you can commit a crime related to pedophilia.

Pedophile means sexually attracted to a child, not a person who's committed sexual acts towards a child.


sorry to burst your bubble of ignorance and lolicon fantasies that you fap to every night, but you're increasing your chances at becoming a pedo whether you like it or not, so yeah, as I said before, have fun raping children in 10 years, and have a good life burning in hell.

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Hoppy said:
Since when is loli and shota propaganda, there are manga and a few doujin covering this kind of thing where it's not necessarily glorifying the act and often have tragic endings.


I'm not talking about animes or mangas which simply "touch" on said ideas, but on ones where it is the main focus, and theme throughout the anime&manga. Ones where having sex with the child is like "the thing". not ones where it's just an "element" in the bigger picture.

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KiraieAeterna said:
-Turnip- said:
You're born with pedophilia, you're a pedo from birth. Over time, yes, you can commit a crime related to pedophilia.

Pedophile means sexually attracted to a child, not a person who's committed sexual acts towards a child.


sorry to burst your bubble of ignorance and lolicon fantasies that you fap to every night, but you're increasing your chances at becoming a pedo whether you like it or not, so yeah, as I said before, have fun raping children in 10 years, and have a good life burning in hell.
Someone's mad, sorry as much as I love to wank to children, I'd rather search "porn" and click on the first or second adult video site I see.

Calm ya tits



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KiraieAeterna said:
Hoppy said:
Since when is loli and shota propaganda, there are manga and a few doujin covering this kind of thing where it's not necessarily glorifying the act and often have tragic endings.


I'm not talking about animes or mangas which simply "touch" on said ideas, but on ones where it is the main focus, and theme throughout the anime&manga. Ones where having sex with the child is like "the thing". not ones where it's just an "element" in the bigger picture.


That's what I'm talking about though, not all loli manga glorifies having sex with them even though it has sex with lolis in it.


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KiraieAeterna said:
Hoppy said:
Since when is loli and shota propaganda, there are manga and a few doujin covering this kind of thing where it's not necessarily glorifying the act and often have tragic endings.


I'm not talking about animes or mangas which simply "touch" on said ideas, but on ones where it is the main focus, and theme throughout the anime&manga. Ones where having sex with the child is like "the thing". not ones where it's just an "element" in the bigger picture.


urgh you again, well i hate to say it to ya but not everything that contains anything remotely loli promotes child molestation or paedophilia as you seem to believe
KiraieAeterna said:
Hoppy said:
Since when is loli and shota propaganda, there are manga and a few doujin covering this kind of thing where it's not necessarily glorifying the act and often have tragic endings.


I'm not talking about animes or mangas which simply "touch" on said ideas, but on ones where it is the main focus, and theme throughout the anime&manga. Ones where having sex with the child is like "the thing". not ones where it's just an "element" in the bigger picture.


urgh, well i hate to say it to ya but not everything that contains loli sex in it's content is gloying it as the next best thing,


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Warning, the following has led to a 190% increase in child rape among North African countries -

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-Turnip- said:
You're born with pedophilia, you're a pedo from birth.
i'm really trying hard here to find an academic journal that actually supports this statement.
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Drawing anything should never be banned. After all, it's basically your imagination on paper.

But showing others your drawings is a different matter. What if someone tried to have sex with your drawing? They'd get paper cuts on their dick. That endangers public safety.
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Plate said:
Drawing anything should never be banned. After all, it's basically your imagination on paper.

But showing others your drawings is a different matter. What if someone tried to have sex with your drawing? They'd get paper cuts on their dick. That endangers public safety.


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Heredity said:
-Turnip- said:
You're born with pedophilia, you're a pedo from birth.
i'm really trying hard here to find an academic journal that actually supports this statement.

Pedofilia probably comes from that brain area that normally should make person to want to take care of something instead makes that person aroused.

So probably anything that can change how that brain area works can make you pedo. So you can be pedo when you have born or you might become pedo later on.
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Warning, the following has led to a 190% increase in child rape among North African countries -



Quite possibly the best gif I have ever seen.
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Hulmy said:
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Warning, the following has led to a 190% increase in child rape among North African countries -



Quite possibly the best gif I have ever seen.
go watch the show then, it had like triple digit loli count :>

tho she was def the best one
Jul 12, 2014 2:23 AM

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Sure thing. I don't see why not.
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HaXXspetten said:
Hulmy said:


Quite possibly the best gif I have ever seen.
go watch the show then, it had like triple digit loli count :>

tho she was def the best one

If lolis get banned, I'm going to feel like I just watched Black Bullet episode 10 all over again. My little kokoro isn't prepared to lose its doki doki ever again -

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Ratohnhaketon said:
HaXXspetten said:
go watch the show then, it had like triple digit loli count :>

tho she was def the best one

If lolis get banned, I'm going to feel like I just watched Black Bullet episode 10 all over again. My little kokoro isn't prepared to lose its doki doki ever again -



Anime name pls
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Hulmy said:
Ratohnhaketon said:

If lolis get banned, I'm going to feel like I just watched Black Bullet episode 10 all over again. My little kokoro isn't prepared to lose its doki doki ever again -



Anime name pls


It's right there, Black Bullet.
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Oh, I thought that was a reference or something...

Thank you.
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Plate said:
Drawing anything should never be banned. After all, it's basically your imagination on paper.

But showing others your drawings is a different matter. What if someone tried to have sex with your drawing? They'd get paper cuts on their dick. That endangers public safety.


Have sex with a drawing? That's pretty stupid. I won't say it is impossible but out of millions of people in the world, who would actually do it unless they are really stupid, just wanted to try out some new experience or because it is damn low cost to do it?
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should making music about drugs be illegal?

should we arrest furries for having sex with people who pretend to be animals?

is it okay to kill an enemy in a video game?

all of these are fucking retarded questions

the point of a ban on child pornography is to protect the child from being manipulated into doing something they don't fully understand that will have negative effects on their psychological development

drawings and portrayals of fictional characters don't have human rights because they are not living beings

they are drawings


Not sure about drug songs in US, but your favorite country Japan will most likely ban it from broadcast in main channels, especially when the message is about promoting or enjoying it.
Music describing having sex with kids could be banned too.


All of that is open for interpretation, though. A lot of metal bands got in trouble for supposedly encouraging people to go out and kill people, or do drugs, or killing themselves. In each of these cases, the judges ruled that there was no direct link between the subject of the music and a crime being committed by a listener of said music. Also, do they actually encourage you to do those crimes, or discourage you from doing it by showing you how bad it is?

Some artists can draw close to real human without doubt.


'Close to' is still not human, especially not if there aren't any real children used for the making of those images.

Selling drawings depicting 'photos of real children' having sex WILL also be arrested in Japan.


Unless they use an actual photo depicting real children in said drawing, it should be allowed. A drawing is a drawing, regardless of its contents.

The acceptance around the current world is not that wide.
Usually its not just about drawing but distribution and the purpose for sexual pleasure. Internet sucks from its beginning to now when it comes to age-regulation. Some people try to cover that and act like innocent or all for freedom of expression. It's just a tip of iceberg to be banned even if it's about freedom of expression. There are much more room of freedom out there.


Even if you could on an age to a fictional character,m the whole argument falls flat when you become aware that these characters aren't real. They're figments of someone's imagination and in almost all cases, these character do not resemble real human beings.

And regarding freedoms, if they successfully ban loli/shota porn, do you honestly think they'll stop there? As long as people believe that there is something that can encourage you to commit a crime, they won't stop until everything that they find abnormal is banned.
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sexualized loli is h*cked up but lbr outlawing it won't do anything. outright nudity is supposed 2 b banned but cleaners on sites like f*kku fix the mosaic right up. banning it wont stop people from doing it. and like novelaer said there r loli that aren't sexualized and i'm fine with them bc they're just regular little kid characters so ¯_(ツ)_/¯ just keep that nasty fetish to yourself nd ur animoe ye
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I don't think drawing Loli and Shots should be a crime, I do however think people that fetishize fictional children are fucked up. Like really? Maybe you need to analyze why that's so appealing to you.
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It's basically you just taking a picture of some kid getting fucked in the ass by a 30 year old balding old guy, outlining it, and posting it for the entire world to masturbate too, and if you ARE a pedo, then you pretty much can fap to loli and get away with it, but if it's cp it's bad. They're both fucked up, and you're fucked up for fapping to little kids.
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I don't think drawing Loli and Shots should be a crime, I do however think people that fetishize fictional children are fucked up. Like really? Maybe you need to analyze why that's so appealing to you.
I completely agree with this guy, please explain what gets you off about loli, then put it right next to pedophilia, half of the time it's gonna end up the same thing.
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Why?

They're super cute and adorable whenever they're in a series/drawn.
It's pretty messed up when they are drawn in hentais, but that's another topic - then again, it's still fiction. People can think or dream about whatever they want, just like what S&M people do within the anime/manga community.
That's kinda why you see a lot of people write/draw fanfics/doujins...

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Banning drawing lolis? I don't agree. That would be the end of Touhou Project, and I can't survive without playing that every day.
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This thread title needs to be edited. I thought it was literally just "IF YOU DRAW A ANIME GIRL, SHOULD YOU GET BANNED??!??!!" - I was super confused. The title should be edited to "drawing anime lolis in a sexual manner".

I'd sure as hell like it to be lmao. I highly disagree with the notion of hentai/pornography even existing in the first place, and it's only just weird knowing that people actually detail that shit out when making sexualized loli drawings.

However, if they're just there for some cuteness level ratings without a sexual connotation on a show AND NOTHING MORE, I'm fine with it.

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No leave muh lolis alone, if they are gone what am I going to fap to, vanilla? Ha, bitch plizz
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VariFox said:
. I highly disagree with the notion of hentai/pornography even existing in the first place,


please tell me this is some sort of joke.....right? or did I miss the sarcasm?
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No, because it's fiction and doesn't hurt people. Watching violent films doesn't cause people to kill others. If you can provide sufficient evidence to prove it is harmful to real world children, then I will change my mind

However, an interesting point that could be argued is that lolicon hentai could inspire crimes. But does that mean anything that has potential to inspire crimes should be banned? Personally I think not. Banning a horror film because someone copied the fucked up murder in it is pretty ridiculous imo
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Lolis are the main reason anime is still alive!
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Drawing them for your own purpose I see no problem but you selling your lewd art book to others are turning other people into seeing children in a bad way.
Baka, hentai
Sep 19, 2016 9:57 AM

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Yes because loli fans are pedofiles
Sep 19, 2016 10:39 AM

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watched the video only for seeing lewd pictures in there ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

but seriously, lolis aren't suppose to be sexualized. ain't interested with naked lil slut tbh...

@ topic. if lewd loli picture are banned, where pedobear should satisfy their sexual desires? to real kids?
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VariFox said:
. I highly disagree with the notion of hentai/pornography even existing in the first place,


please tell me this is some sort of joke.....right? or did I miss the sarcasm?


Please tell me this some sort of joke, right? Did I miss the sarcasm?

Yeah, you kind of did. It was a joke to those guys that take wanking way too seriously. I don't like hentai or porn but I couldn't give less of a shit whether or not someone else is interested in it - that's their business.

Way to spoil the joke papi (`A´)


Nah, it wasn't a joke, what are you talking about?
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I would be very angry at this world if they banned art. My favorite lolis are like the one in this video.

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