New
Jul 9, 2014 11:20 AM
#51
Jul 9, 2014 11:21 AM
#52
Should drawing lolicon imagery be illegal? No Should drawing lolicon imagery, printing and distributing it to underage or unstable consumers be illegal? Yes Thats where the difference comes in. Art is a free medium, within realistic limits. |
Jul 9, 2014 11:27 AM
#53
LadyRenly said: loool |
'The way of the wang is long...and hard' |
Jul 9, 2014 11:40 AM
#54
when you start talking about thought crimes, you stepping in dangerous ground. |
Jul 9, 2014 11:50 AM
#55
LadyRenly said: LMFAO. This is it.This answers every question in here. I don't think this thread has to continue anymore. |
Jul 9, 2014 12:48 PM
#56
Siscon2000 said: Vudis said: Thread cleaned. Removed spam and offtopic. OH FOR GODS SAKE AND I JUST MADE COFFEE AND THOUGH "YAS LETS READ IT NOW!!" YOU DELETED 2! 2!!!! PAGES OF MOST AMAZING COMENTS. JUST.. JUST... FOR ALL THE GODS SAKE... I was wondering what happened to my comment. And let me just restate what I said in the deleted comment. I would GLADLY do momo from to love ru, despite her being 14. She's hot, bro. Is it any wonder the mal commoners don't like the dicktakers dictators mods. please don't ban me |
Jul 9, 2014 12:53 PM
#57
^^^ *thumbs up* depends on the mod really, since they all have different views on what's spam ect... I honestly thought my post was relevant to the discussion but I guess not |
IRC- LoliGod |
Jul 9, 2014 1:00 PM
#58
CheddarLord said: ^^^ *thumbs up* depends on the mod really, since they all have different views on what's spam ect... I honestly thought my post was relevant to the discussion but I guess not I think I should have explicitly stated that sometimes characters under 18 still look mature (enough) and that they shouldn't be banned. Which is what I said more or less, just wasn't that straightforward. Case in point, momo. Or any girl from the highschool anime/manga that form the majority of the anime and manga world. |
Jul 9, 2014 1:10 PM
#59
HaXXspetten said: Hoppy said: So I've heard. Has to be one of the most discriminating policies in modern history, just makes you lose faith in humanity.SolviteSekai said: d445 said: it is already banned in usa, australia and others No it hasnt. Lolicon shit is only illegal in the USA if it involves an adult and an under aged youth. I could link you to the Reddit lolicon gallery on imgur and show you the truth of what is and isnt "illegal". Any female with a flat chest is banned from porn in Australia real or 2D (18 or not), which has pretty much sealed my fate from ever living there. YAS! DEFINETLY!! SolviteSekai said: Should drawing lolicon imagery be illegal? No Should drawing lolicon imagery, printing and distributing it to underage or unstable consumers be illegal? Yes Thats where the difference comes in. Art is a free medium, within realistic limits. how can you know if customer is stable or not? should he do some psychoteraphy tests to get licence for manga? like for a gun? CheddarLord said: ^^^ *thumbs up* depends on the mod really, since they all have different views on what's spam ect... I honestly thought my post was relevant to the discussion but I guess not well I only happy he modified title of this tread. it makes more sence now. thanks for that! but why the hell delete 2 pages OH GODS!! T.T and also this SAME moderator LOCKED my famous tread "sister shaving her brothers pubic hairs" OH GODS WHY T.T |
please sell me the condom, mister I would like to fuck my sister! condoms really worth to keep I will fuck her very deep! could you be my condom keeper? so I could try to fuck her deeper! please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll. -------------------------------------------------------------- http://protpisaenglish.blogspot.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzn0J8cfrY |
Jul 9, 2014 1:18 PM
#60
and also this SAME moderator LOCKED my famous tread "sister shaving her brothers pubic hairs" OH GODS WHY T.T I was actually wondering where that thread went |
IRC- LoliGod |
Jul 9, 2014 3:52 PM
#61
HaXXspetten said: Hoppy said: So I've heard. Has to be one of the most discriminating policies in modern history, just makes you lose faith in humanity.SolviteSekai said: d445 said: it is already banned in usa, australia and others No it hasnt. Lolicon shit is only illegal in the USA if it involves an adult and an under aged youth. I could link you to the Reddit lolicon gallery on imgur and show you the truth of what is and isnt "illegal". Any female with a flat chest is banned from porn in Australia real or 2D (18 or not), which has pretty much sealed my fate from ever living there. It's not like you can't look at it or anything. |
Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
Jul 9, 2014 3:56 PM
#62
CheddarLord said: and also this SAME moderator LOCKED my famous tread "sister shaving her brothers pubic hairs" OH GODS WHY T.T I was actually wondering where that thread went It went where it belongs. |
Jul 9, 2014 11:48 PM
#63
Hoppy said: SolviteSekai said: d445 said: it is already banned in usa, australia and others No it hasnt. Lolicon shit is only illegal in the USA if it involves an adult and an under aged youth. I could link you to the Reddit lolicon gallery on imgur and show you the truth of what is and isnt "illegal". Any female with a flat chest is banned from porn in Australia real or 2D (18 or not), which has pretty much sealed my fate from ever living there. HaXXspetten said: So I've heard. Has to be one of the most discriminating policies in modern history, just makes you lose faith in humanity. you've been led astray by misinformation. 1. that was a law proposed only for the state of victoria 2. it didn't pass you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet. |
no-thanksJul 9, 2014 11:52 PM
Jul 10, 2014 12:20 AM
#64
No...i think it's not crime. But, it depend on you again..don't exaggerate into lolis. You know 'bout Pedophile lately isn't it!? |
Jul 10, 2014 12:33 AM
#65
Heredity said: heh yeh okayHoppy said: SolviteSekai said: d445 said: it is already banned in usa, australia and others No it hasnt. Lolicon shit is only illegal in the USA if it involves an adult and an under aged youth. I could link you to the Reddit lolicon gallery on imgur and show you the truth of what is and isnt "illegal". Any female with a flat chest is banned from porn in Australia real or 2D (18 or not), which has pretty much sealed my fate from ever living there. HaXXspetten said: So I've heard. Has to be one of the most discriminating policies in modern history, just makes you lose faith in humanity. you've been led astray by misinformation. 1. that was a law proposed only for the state of victoria 2. it didn't pass you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet. did sound a bit too stupid to be true |
Jul 10, 2014 3:10 AM
#66
Sure, if you want for there to be a loli revolution. |
Jul 10, 2014 9:18 AM
#67
Heredity said: Hoppy said: SolviteSekai said: d445 said: it is already banned in usa, australia and others No it hasnt. Lolicon shit is only illegal in the USA if it involves an adult and an under aged youth. I could link you to the Reddit lolicon gallery on imgur and show you the truth of what is and isnt "illegal". Any female with a flat chest is banned from porn in Australia real or 2D (18 or not), which has pretty much sealed my fate from ever living there. HaXXspetten said: So I've heard. Has to be one of the most discriminating policies in modern history, just makes you lose faith in humanity. you've been led astray by misinformation. 1. that was a law proposed only for the state of victoria 2. it didn't pass you shouldn't believe everything you read on the internet. that means humanity still have a chance. we are not lost yet. I m glad. may the GODS bless OUR RIGHTS! |
please sell me the condom, mister I would like to fuck my sister! condoms really worth to keep I will fuck her very deep! could you be my condom keeper? so I could try to fuck her deeper! please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll. -------------------------------------------------------------- http://protpisaenglish.blogspot.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzn0J8cfrY |
Jul 10, 2014 9:19 AM
#68
No drawing lolis is just part of anime/manga artstyle all together. If people can't take it then they have good remedy. They don't watch/observe it. |
Jul 10, 2014 9:25 AM
#69
Now that I'm really thinking about things, loli and shota animes/manga, are bad and can lead to pedophilic behaviour or at least to a distortion to how one views such things; to one not thinking such acts are so bad or harmful. Those who try to defend such animes/mangas by using the argument of, "it's just a drawing", or "it doesn't mean anything" fail to understand just how profound an affect these so called "drawings" can have on us. Animes&mangas are not just abstract drawings of squares and circles, no, they are based on human beings, and humans doing various things. If it didn't matter then why do these so called "just drawings" affect us emotionally as they can move us to sadness, anger, happiness, joy, relief, hate, etc etc, and why is it that we can even relate to these characters and empathize with them. They are not mere drawings that hold no weight but are a reflection of societies, of our fantasies, of the good/evil in the world, they are a depiction of us humans, and people who try to ignore this obvious fact, will fail to realise just how bad the lolicon and shotacon genre really are. Such genres are promoting child molestation and can lead one into pedophilia. It's something that shouldn't be taken lightly at all. |
KiraieAeternaJul 10, 2014 9:30 AM
Jul 10, 2014 9:46 AM
#70
KiraieAeterna said: Now that I'm really thinking about things, loli and shota animes/manga, are bad and can lead to pedophilic behaviour or at least to a distortion to how one views such things; to one not thinking such acts are so bad or harmful. Those who try to defend such animes/mangas by using the argument of, "it's just a drawing", or "it doesn't mean anything" fail to understand just how profound an affect these so called "drawings" can have on us. Animes&mangas are not just abstract drawings of squares and circles, no, they are based on human beings, and humans doing various things. If it didn't matter then why do these so called "just drawings" affect us emotionally as they can move us to sadness, anger, happiness, joy, relief, hate, etc etc, and why is it that we can even relate to these characters and empathize with them. They are not mere drawings that hold no weight but are a reflection of societies, of our fantasies, of the good/evil in the world, they are a depiction of us humans, and people who try to ignore this obvious fact, will fail to realise just how bad the lolicon and shotacon genre really are. Such genres are promoting child molestation and can lead one into pedophilia. It's something that shouldn't be taken lightly at all. I understand what you said perfectly but the way you said it can be taken 2 ways, you're generalizing which means everyone who watches such kinds of anime/manga can stimulate their more deeper sexual desires which can lead into pedophilia. Which is incorrect and probably not exactly what you meant. And then you have the other one which you're referring to a very specific type of people. Easily influenced ones or people who have been exposed for a long duration to such type of anime/manga/hentai ane even then not everyone gets those crazy ideas. Once again you're just making huge assumptions really.. You simply can't say that this genre is reflection of society, not everyone is like that. It's not about ignoring but I've never met anyone who watches shota/loli and that thanks to it has decided to molest a child.. You're right if you were referring to very specific types of people but you generalized making your argument not totally credible. |
Jul 10, 2014 9:52 AM
#71
KiraieAeterna said: You can't know if they make people commit crimes. If you're shown a Yuri manga, will you become lesbian? And even if you do, does it mean you'll rape other girls? No. Does watching hentai or normal porn turn you into a rapist? No.Now that I'm really thinking about things, loli and shota animes/manga, are bad and can lead to pedophilic behaviour or at least to a distortion to how one views such things; to one not thinking such acts are so bad or harmful. Those who try to defend such animes/mangas by using the argument of, "it's just a drawing", or "it doesn't mean anything" fail to understand just how profound an affect these so called "drawings" can have on us. Animes&mangas are not just abstract drawings of squares and circles, no, they are based on human beings, and humans doing various things. If it didn't matter then why do these so called "just drawings" affect us emotionally as they can move us to sadness, anger, happiness, joy, relief, hate, etc etc, and why is it that we can even relate to these characters and empathize with them. They are not mere drawings that hold no weight but are a reflection of societies, of our fantasies, of the good/evil in the world, they are a depiction of us humans, and people who try to ignore this obvious fact, will fail to realise just how bad the lolicon and shotacon genre really are. Such genres are promoting child molestation and can lead one into pedophilia. It's something that shouldn't be taken lightly at all. I'm not defending those criminals who molest kids and have no consideration for others besides themselves. They are scum and should be heavily punished. But I'm for the freedom of speech. Art freedom. People just over-react when it involves these themes. By that argument, killing (which is a worse crime than child molesting, or it should be!!!) would be banned from the stories we so much love. You can't depict a killer or death, because that would turn people into criminals and serial killers. Bye, bye all the detective stories. It's ridiculous. |
The writer who penned Clashing Feelings. You can buy the light novel on Amazon. |
Jul 10, 2014 9:53 AM
#72
KiraieAeterna said: Such genres can lead one into pedophilia oh for holy fucks sake.... |
please sell me the condom, mister I would like to fuck my sister! condoms really worth to keep I will fuck her very deep! could you be my condom keeper? so I could try to fuck her deeper! please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll. -------------------------------------------------------------- http://protpisaenglish.blogspot.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzn0J8cfrY |
Jul 10, 2014 10:22 AM
#73
Endycia said: KiraieAeterna said: Now that I'm really thinking about things, loli and shota animes/manga, are bad and can lead to pedophilic behaviour or at least to a distortion to how one views such things; to one not thinking such acts are so bad or harmful. Those who try to defend such animes/mangas by using the argument of, "it's just a drawing", or "it doesn't mean anything" fail to understand just how profound an affect these so called "drawings" can have on us. Animes&mangas are not just abstract drawings of squares and circles, no, they are based on human beings, and humans doing various things. If it didn't matter then why do these so called "just drawings" affect us emotionally as they can move us to sadness, anger, happiness, joy, relief, hate, etc etc, and why is it that we can even relate to these characters and empathize with them. They are not mere drawings that hold no weight but are a reflection of societies, of our fantasies, of the good/evil in the world, they are a depiction of us humans, and people who try to ignore this obvious fact, will fail to realise just how bad the lolicon and shotacon genre really are. Such genres are promoting child molestation and can lead one into pedophilia. It's something that shouldn't be taken lightly at all. I understand what you said perfectly but the way you said it can be taken 2 ways, you're generalizing which means everyone who watches such kinds of anime/manga can stimulate their more deeper sexual desires which can lead into pedophilia. Which is incorrect and probably not exactly what you meant. And then you have the other one which you're referring to a very specific type of people. Easily influenced ones or people who have been exposed for a long duration to such type of anime/manga/hentai ane even then not everyone gets those crazy ideas. Once again you're just making huge assumptions really.. You simply can't say that this genre is reflection of society, not everyone is like that. It's not about ignoring but I've never met anyone who watches shota/loli and that thanks to it has decided to molest a child.. You're right if you were referring to very specific types of people but you generalized making your argument not totally credible. Shiratori-san said: ] KiraieAeterna said: You can't know if they make people commit crimes. If you're shown a Yuri manga, will you become lesbian? And even if you do, does it mean you'll rape other girls? No. Does watching hentai or normal porn turn you into a rapist? No.Now that I'm really thinking about things, loli and shota animes/manga, are bad and can lead to pedophilic behaviour or at least to a distortion to how one views such things; to one not thinking such acts are so bad or harmful. Those who try to defend such animes/mangas by using the argument of, "it's just a drawing", or "it doesn't mean anything" fail to understand just how profound an affect these so called "drawings" can have on us. Animes&mangas are not just abstract drawings of squares and circles, no, they are based on human beings, and humans doing various things. If it didn't matter then why do these so called "just drawings" affect us emotionally as they can move us to sadness, anger, happiness, joy, relief, hate, etc etc, and why is it that we can even relate to these characters and empathize with them. They are not mere drawings that hold no weight but are a reflection of societies, of our fantasies, of the good/evil in the world, they are a depiction of us humans, and people who try to ignore this obvious fact, will fail to realise just how bad the lolicon and shotacon genre really are. Such genres are promoting child molestation and can lead one into pedophilia. It's something that shouldn't be taken lightly at all. I'm not defending those criminals who molest kids and have no consideration for others besides themselves. They are scum and should be heavily punished. But I'm for the freedom of speech. Art freedom. People just over-react when it involves these themes. By that argument, killing (which is a worse crime than child molesting, or it should be!!!) would be banned from the stories we so much love. You can't depict a killer or death, because that would turn people into criminals and serial killers. Bye, bye all the detective stories. It's ridiculous. Siscon2000 said: KiraieAeterna said: Such genres can lead one into pedophilia oh for holy fucks sake.... I'm also all for "art freedom"/freedom of expression but when that art or expression crosses that line and is promoting harmful behaviour then I'm against it. Sorry if what I said was a bit too blunt but it's true to a certain extent. Lolicon and shotacon animes&mangas are promoting the ideas of child molestation It's like watching a pro-nazi anime where all they do is spew out the teachings of Hitle and enjoying it but then trying to defend it by saying, "not everyone who watches it agrees with hitler's ideals" or that "it's simply art" etc etc. no actually, it is bad because those ideas which are portrayed in a positive light, are still spreading the same hatred filled message that all Jews, gypsies, and all other people who aren't blonde, blue eyed, or white don't deserve to live. Which can thus lead people into such thought patterns. Maybe not immediately, but if they dis strongly like it, or watch it over a period of time, then yes. Lolicon and shotacon animes & mangas are basically saying that having sex with children is ok and not a bad thing, which is basically promoting child molestation and pedophilia. sorry but if that isn't the underlying theme in shotacons and lolicons then please try and prove me wrong in some way. |
Jul 10, 2014 10:24 AM
#74
I am incredibly uncomfortable with a government when it stays making "thought crimes " illegal. Thought crimes are crimes where there are literally 0 victims, but the government thinks the mentality behind the action is bad and so makes it illegal. I think it's not the government's place to police a victimless crime. |
Jul 10, 2014 10:28 AM
#75
KiraieAeterna said: Endycia said: KiraieAeterna said: Now that I'm really thinking about things, loli and shota animes/manga, are bad and can lead to pedophilic behaviour or at least to a distortion to how one views such things; to one not thinking such acts are so bad or harmful. Those who try to defend such animes/mangas by using the argument of, "it's just a drawing", or "it doesn't mean anything" fail to understand just how profound an affect these so called "drawings" can have on us. Animes&mangas are not just abstract drawings of squares and circles, no, they are based on human beings, and humans doing various things. If it didn't matter then why do these so called "just drawings" affect us emotionally as they can move us to sadness, anger, happiness, joy, relief, hate, etc etc, and why is it that we can even relate to these characters and empathize with them. They are not mere drawings that hold no weight but are a reflection of societies, of our fantasies, of the good/evil in the world, they are a depiction of us humans, and people who try to ignore this obvious fact, will fail to realise just how bad the lolicon and shotacon genre really are. Such genres are promoting child molestation and can lead one into pedophilia. It's something that shouldn't be taken lightly at all. I understand what you said perfectly but the way you said it can be taken 2 ways, you're generalizing which means everyone who watches such kinds of anime/manga can stimulate their more deeper sexual desires which can lead into pedophilia. Which is incorrect and probably not exactly what you meant. And then you have the other one which you're referring to a very specific type of people. Easily influenced ones or people who have been exposed for a long duration to such type of anime/manga/hentai ane even then not everyone gets those crazy ideas. Once again you're just making huge assumptions really.. You simply can't say that this genre is reflection of society, not everyone is like that. It's not about ignoring but I've never met anyone who watches shota/loli and that thanks to it has decided to molest a child.. You're right if you were referring to very specific types of people but you generalized making your argument not totally credible. Shiratori-san said: ] KiraieAeterna said: Now that I'm really thinking about things, loli and shota animes/manga, are bad and can lead to pedophilic behaviour or at least to a distortion to how one views such things; to one not thinking such acts are so bad or harmful. Those who try to defend such animes/mangas by using the argument of, "it's just a drawing", or "it doesn't mean anything" fail to understand just how profound an affect these so called "drawings" can have on us. Animes&mangas are not just abstract drawings of squares and circles, no, they are based on human beings, and humans doing various things. If it didn't matter then why do these so called "just drawings" affect us emotionally as they can move us to sadness, anger, happiness, joy, relief, hate, etc etc, and why is it that we can even relate to these characters and empathize with them. They are not mere drawings that hold no weight but are a reflection of societies, of our fantasies, of the good/evil in the world, they are a depiction of us humans, and people who try to ignore this obvious fact, will fail to realise just how bad the lolicon and shotacon genre really are. Such genres are promoting child molestation and can lead one into pedophilia. It's something that shouldn't be taken lightly at all. I'm not defending those criminals who molest kids and have no consideration for others besides themselves. They are scum and should be heavily punished. But I'm for the freedom of speech. Art freedom. People just over-react when it involves these themes. By that argument, killing (which is a worse crime than child molesting, or it should be!!!) would be banned from the stories we so much love. You can't depict a killer or death, because that would turn people into criminals and serial killers. Bye, bye all the detective stories. It's ridiculous. Siscon2000 said: KiraieAeterna said: Such genres can lead one into pedophilia oh for holy fucks sake.... I'm also all for "art freedom"/freedom of expression but when that art or expression crosses that line and is promoting harmful behaviour then I'm against it. Sorry if what I said was a bit too blunt but it's true to a certain extent. Lolicon and shotacon animes&mangas are promoting the ideas of child molestation It's like watching a pro-nazi anime where all they do is spew out the teachings of Hitle and enjoying it but then trying to defend it by saying, "not everyone who watches it agrees with hitler's ideals" or that "it's simply art" etc etc. no actually, it is bad because those ideas which are portrayed in a positive light, are still spreading the same hatred filled message that all Jews, gypsies, and all other people who aren't blonde, blue eyed, or white don't deserve to live. Which can thus lead people into such thought patterns. Maybe not immediately, but if they dis strongly like it, or watch it over a period of time, then yes. Lolicon and shotacon animes & mangas are basically saying that having sex with children is ok and not a bad thing, which is basically promoting child molestation and pedophilia. sorry but if that isn't the underlying theme in shotacons and lolicons then please try and prove me wrong in some way. I'd hate for you to be watching Kancolle, you might get sensitive over the possible glorification of the Imperial Japanese Navy. Lighten up or you'll go bonkers. Only a specific set of people will fap to loli then go after real children, the already fucked up in the head who had pedophillia on the brain before they went for loli. |
Jul 10, 2014 10:33 AM
#76
Hoppy said: KiraieAeterna said: Endycia said: KiraieAeterna said: Now that I'm really thinking about things, loli and shota animes/manga, are bad and can lead to pedophilic behaviour or at least to a distortion to how one views such things; to one not thinking such acts are so bad or harmful. Those who try to defend such animes/mangas by using the argument of, "it's just a drawing", or "it doesn't mean anything" fail to understand just how profound an affect these so called "drawings" can have on us. Animes&mangas are not just abstract drawings of squares and circles, no, they are based on human beings, and humans doing various things. If it didn't matter then why do these so called "just drawings" affect us emotionally as they can move us to sadness, anger, happiness, joy, relief, hate, etc etc, and why is it that we can even relate to these characters and empathize with them. They are not mere drawings that hold no weight but are a reflection of societies, of our fantasies, of the good/evil in the world, they are a depiction of us humans, and people who try to ignore this obvious fact, will fail to realise just how bad the lolicon and shotacon genre really are. Such genres are promoting child molestation and can lead one into pedophilia. It's something that shouldn't be taken lightly at all. I understand what you said perfectly but the way you said it can be taken 2 ways, you're generalizing which means everyone who watches such kinds of anime/manga can stimulate their more deeper sexual desires which can lead into pedophilia. Which is incorrect and probably not exactly what you meant. And then you have the other one which you're referring to a very specific type of people. Easily influenced ones or people who have been exposed for a long duration to such type of anime/manga/hentai ane even then not everyone gets those crazy ideas. Once again you're just making huge assumptions really.. You simply can't say that this genre is reflection of society, not everyone is like that. It's not about ignoring but I've never met anyone who watches shota/loli and that thanks to it has decided to molest a child.. You're right if you were referring to very specific types of people but you generalized making your argument not totally credible. Shiratori-san said: ] KiraieAeterna said: You can't know if they make people commit crimes. If you're shown a Yuri manga, will you become lesbian? And even if you do, does it mean you'll rape other girls? No. Does watching hentai or normal porn turn you into a rapist? No.Now that I'm really thinking about things, loli and shota animes/manga, are bad and can lead to pedophilic behaviour or at least to a distortion to how one views such things; to one not thinking such acts are so bad or harmful. Those who try to defend such animes/mangas by using the argument of, "it's just a drawing", or "it doesn't mean anything" fail to understand just how profound an affect these so called "drawings" can have on us. Animes&mangas are not just abstract drawings of squares and circles, no, they are based on human beings, and humans doing various things. If it didn't matter then why do these so called "just drawings" affect us emotionally as they can move us to sadness, anger, happiness, joy, relief, hate, etc etc, and why is it that we can even relate to these characters and empathize with them. They are not mere drawings that hold no weight but are a reflection of societies, of our fantasies, of the good/evil in the world, they are a depiction of us humans, and people who try to ignore this obvious fact, will fail to realise just how bad the lolicon and shotacon genre really are. Such genres are promoting child molestation and can lead one into pedophilia. It's something that shouldn't be taken lightly at all. I'm not defending those criminals who molest kids and have no consideration for others besides themselves. They are scum and should be heavily punished. But I'm for the freedom of speech. Art freedom. People just over-react when it involves these themes. By that argument, killing (which is a worse crime than child molesting, or it should be!!!) would be banned from the stories we so much love. You can't depict a killer or death, because that would turn people into criminals and serial killers. Bye, bye all the detective stories. It's ridiculous. Siscon2000 said: KiraieAeterna said: Such genres can lead one into pedophilia oh for holy fucks sake.... I'm also all for "art freedom"/freedom of expression but when that art or expression crosses that line and is promoting harmful behaviour then I'm against it. Sorry if what I said was a bit too blunt but it's true to a certain extent. Lolicon and shotacon animes&mangas are promoting the ideas of child molestation It's like watching a pro-nazi anime where all they do is spew out the teachings of Hitle and enjoying it but then trying to defend it by saying, "not everyone who watches it agrees with hitler's ideals" or that "it's simply art" etc etc. no actually, it is bad because those ideas which are portrayed in a positive light, are still spreading the same hatred filled message that all Jews, gypsies, and all other people who aren't blonde, blue eyed, or white don't deserve to live. Which can thus lead people into such thought patterns. Maybe not immediately, but if they dis strongly like it, or watch it over a period of time, then yes. Lolicon and shotacon animes & mangas are basically saying that having sex with children is ok and not a bad thing, which is basically promoting child molestation and pedophilia. sorry but if that isn't the underlying theme in shotacons and lolicons then please try and prove me wrong in some way. I'd hate for you to be watching Kancolle, you might get sensitive over the possible glorification of the Imperial Japanese Navy. Lighten up or you'll go bonkers. Only a specific set of people will fap to loli then go after real children, the already fucked up in the head who had pedophillia on the brain before they went for loli. I'm not against animes which have different views in their animes, but with lolicon and shotacon animes, the sole entity/purpose of the anime is revolved and based off having sexual relations with a child. and these sexual relations are not reprimanded but are shown as good/normal behaviour which completely fine. sorry if I think glorifying the act of molesting children is "wrong" |
Jul 10, 2014 10:44 AM
#77
Jul 10, 2014 10:49 AM
#78
HaXXspetten said: loli is purely a physical characteristic anyway, it's got no connection to children or age by itself ....ok then, whatever helps you to sleep at night |
Jul 10, 2014 10:55 AM
#79
KiraieAeterna said: animes&mangas are promoting the ideas of child molestation look if you are (probably) a straight men or straight women is there any posibility to make you into a gay? can you have sex with another male after reading a manga (or even tousand mangas) about it? well it definetly wouldn't work on me in any way... you see its not like I am siscon because I watched yosuga no sora. no its other way around - I watched yosuga no sora because I was siscon from the very begining. |
please sell me the condom, mister I would like to fuck my sister! condoms really worth to keep I will fuck her very deep! could you be my condom keeper? so I could try to fuck her deeper! please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll. -------------------------------------------------------------- http://protpisaenglish.blogspot.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzn0J8cfrY |
Jul 10, 2014 11:28 AM
#80
Siscon2000 said: KiraieAeterna said: animes&mangas are promoting the ideas of child molestation look if you are (probably) a straight men or straight women is there any posibility to make you into a gay? can you have sex with another male after reading a manga (or even tousand mangas) about it? well it definetly wouldn't work on me in any way... you see its not like I am siscon because I watched yosuga no sora. no its other way around - I watched yosuga no sora because I was siscon from the very begining. ...uhh, being gay is a sexual orientation and is something which just happens. However, pedophilia is a learned behavior. watching lolicon anime which as kiraie said promotes pedophilia (which I agree with) can encourage similar thought patterns and behaviors. |
Jul 10, 2014 11:45 AM
#81
LilyPrimrose said: Siscon2000 said: KiraieAeterna said: animes&mangas are promoting the ideas of child molestation look if you are (probably) a straight men or straight women is there any posibility to make you into a gay? can you have sex with another male after reading a manga (or even tousand mangas) about it? well it definetly wouldn't work on me in any way... you see its not like I am siscon because I watched yosuga no sora. no its other way around - I watched yosuga no sora because I was siscon from the very begining. ...uhh, being gay is a sexual orientation and is something which just happens. However, pedophilia is a learned behavior. watching lolicon anime which as kiraie said promotes pedophilia (which I agree with) can encourage similar thought patterns and behaviors. pedophilia is a learned behavior? who said that? it is also orentation just rare and twisted one as well as necrophilia, zoophilia, and so on. and actually homosexuality is also same level abnormality as those. and thats a common knoledge. they are most likely born this way. |
please sell me the condom, mister I would like to fuck my sister! condoms really worth to keep I will fuck her very deep! could you be my condom keeper? so I could try to fuck her deeper! please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll. -------------------------------------------------------------- http://protpisaenglish.blogspot.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzn0J8cfrY |
Jul 10, 2014 11:51 AM
#82
Only if it's pornographic or provocative in nature and distributed to consumers for a profit. Child porn is a bad thing. Even when it's "not real". No one should argue this. |
Kronie is mai waifu. Enema is my master. Shadowslave13 is my loli milk provider. Flume is my dark magic buddy cop sidekick™. And Afshar was my first MAL friend ;-; I have coveted these people, so that I may one day sacrifice them in the name of love. |
Jul 10, 2014 12:38 PM
#83
Pentobarbidoll said: Only if it's pornographic or provocative in nature and distributed to consumers for a profit. Child porn is a bad thing. Even when it's "not real". No one should argue this. Why? Why does porn of fictional children or child-like characters get lumped in with porn involving real children? Why is it so hard to understand that the two are vastly different, despite their superficial similarity, and that banning the fictional stuff doesn't solve anything? |
Signature removed. Please follow the signature rules, as defined in the Site & Forum Guidelines. |
Jul 10, 2014 12:41 PM
#84
Siscon2000 said: LilyPrimrose said: Siscon2000 said: KiraieAeterna said: animes&mangas are promoting the ideas of child molestation look if you are (probably) a straight men or straight women is there any posibility to make you into a gay? can you have sex with another male after reading a manga (or even tousand mangas) about it? well it definetly wouldn't work on me in any way... you see its not like I am siscon because I watched yosuga no sora. no its other way around - I watched yosuga no sora because I was siscon from the very begining. ...uhh, being gay is a sexual orientation and is something which just happens. However, pedophilia is a learned behavior. watching lolicon anime which as kiraie said promotes pedophilia (which I agree with) can encourage similar thought patterns and behaviors. pedophilia is a learned behavior? who said that? it is also orentation just rare and twisted one as well as necrophilia, zoophilia, and so on. and actually homosexuality is also same level abnormality as those. and thats a common knoledge. they are most likely born this way. right ok, so there should be a law allowing pedophillia....? |
Jul 10, 2014 12:52 PM
#85
LilyPrimrose said: Siscon2000 said: LilyPrimrose said: Siscon2000 said: KiraieAeterna said: animes&mangas are promoting the ideas of child molestation look if you are (probably) a straight men or straight women is there any posibility to make you into a gay? can you have sex with another male after reading a manga (or even tousand mangas) about it? well it definetly wouldn't work on me in any way... you see its not like I am siscon because I watched yosuga no sora. no its other way around - I watched yosuga no sora because I was siscon from the very begining. ...uhh, being gay is a sexual orientation and is something which just happens. However, pedophilia is a learned behavior. watching lolicon anime which as kiraie said promotes pedophilia (which I agree with) can encourage similar thought patterns and behaviors. pedophilia is a learned behavior? who said that? it is also orentation just rare and twisted one as well as necrophilia, zoophilia, and so on. and actually homosexuality is also same level abnormality as those. and thats a common knoledge. they are most likely born this way. right ok, so there should be a law allowing pedophillia....? LilyPrimrose said: Siscon2000 said: LilyPrimrose said: Siscon2000 said: KiraieAeterna said: animes&mangas are promoting the ideas of child molestation look if you are (probably) a straight men or straight women is there any posibility to make you into a gay? can you have sex with another male after reading a manga (or even tousand mangas) about it? well it definetly wouldn't work on me in any way... you see its not like I am siscon because I watched yosuga no sora. no its other way around - I watched yosuga no sora because I was siscon from the very begining. ...uhh, being gay is a sexual orientation and is something which just happens. However, pedophilia is a learned behavior. watching lolicon anime which as kiraie said promotes pedophilia (which I agree with) can encourage similar thought patterns and behaviors. pedophilia is a learned behavior? who said that? it is also orentation just rare and twisted one as well as necrophilia, zoophilia, and so on. and actually homosexuality is also same level abnormality as those. and thats a common knoledge. they are most likely born this way. right ok, so there should be a law allowing pedophillia....? not fully allowing but perhaps a little bit of leeway |
IRC- LoliGod |
Jul 10, 2014 1:03 PM
#86
LilyPrimrose said: Siscon2000 said: LilyPrimrose said: Siscon2000 said: KiraieAeterna said: animes&mangas are promoting the ideas of child molestation look if you are (probably) a straight men or straight women is there any posibility to make you into a gay? can you have sex with another male after reading a manga (or even tousand mangas) about it? well it definetly wouldn't work on me in any way... you see its not like I am siscon because I watched yosuga no sora. no its other way around - I watched yosuga no sora because I was siscon from the very begining. ...uhh, being gay is a sexual orientation and is something which just happens. However, pedophilia is a learned behavior. watching lolicon anime which as kiraie said promotes pedophilia (which I agree with) can encourage similar thought patterns and behaviors. pedophilia is a learned behavior? who said that? it is also orentation just rare and twisted one as well as necrophilia, zoophilia, and so on. and actually homosexuality is also same level abnormality as those. and thats a common knoledge. they are most likely born this way. right ok, so there should be a law allowing pedophillia....? no. just to clear it up - pedophilia means child molesting. any picture of child molesting is not a pedophilia but just a picture of it. pedophilia itself is ofcource supposed to stay a crime in any way. but we talking only about images here. |
please sell me the condom, mister I would like to fuck my sister! condoms really worth to keep I will fuck her very deep! could you be my condom keeper? so I could try to fuck her deeper! please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll. -------------------------------------------------------------- http://protpisaenglish.blogspot.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzn0J8cfrY |
Jul 10, 2014 1:10 PM
#87
just to clear it up - pedophilia means child molesting. any picture of child molesting is not a pedophilia but just a picture of it. pedophilia itself is ofcource supposed to stay a crime in any way. but we talking only about images here.[/quote] um no it's not, paedophilia is sexual attration to prepubescent children... it only becomes child molestation when the paedophile perfoms the act |
IRC- LoliGod |
Jul 10, 2014 1:11 PM
#88
CheddarLord said: just to clear it up - pedophilia means child molesting. any picture of child molesting is not a pedophilia but just a picture of it. pedophilia itself is ofcource supposed to stay a crime in any way. but we talking only about images here. um no it's not, paedophilia is basically sexual attration to prepubescent children not child molestation yes. ok. thats right. |
please sell me the condom, mister I would like to fuck my sister! condoms really worth to keep I will fuck her very deep! could you be my condom keeper? so I could try to fuck her deeper! please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll. -------------------------------------------------------------- http://protpisaenglish.blogspot.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzn0J8cfrY |
Jul 10, 2014 1:12 PM
#89
i agree that pedophilia is an innate behavior. it is written in our genes to mate with young females, not with old ones. we, males, find child-looking faces most attractive and even our females trick us by using cosmetic and other... |
Jul 10, 2014 1:30 PM
#90
CheddarLord said: LilyPrimrose said: right ok, so there should be a law allowing pedophillia....? not fully allowing but perhaps a little bit of leeway What in the actual fuck.... that statement just proves what I have been saying, people will have such ideas of giving pedophiles "leeway" to molest children when viewing of lolicon animes/mangas are prolonged, because they will become desensitized to the act and view the act of molesting the child has something which should not be considered bad even though they will be mentally, and physically scaring the child for life. This is basically the future of avid lolicon watchers.....have fun being a pedophile in 5 years time. smh The MAL community is truly disintegrating |
Jul 10, 2014 1:43 PM
#91
KiraieAeterna said: CheddarLord said: LilyPrimrose said: right ok, so there should be a law allowing pedophillia....? not fully allowing but perhaps a little bit of leeway What in the actual fuck.... that statement just proves what I have been saying, people will have such ideas of giving pedophiles "leeway" to molest children when viewing of lolicon animes/mangas are prolonged, because they will become desensitized to the act and view the act of molesting the child has something which should not be considered bad even though they will be mentally, and physically scaring the child for life. This is basically the future of avid lolicon watchers.....have fun being a pedophile in 5 years time. smh The MAL community is truly disintegrating perhaps some of them will end up becoming desensitized and acting upon- it's practically inevitable after all you can't please everyone, but in the end it provides some sort of outlet for most of them- well the one who can control their urges .. if i become a paedo in 5 years then so be it, but i'll certainly attempt to make it hard for a conviction I just think it's unfair to judge the group as a whole for the actions of a few |
AncientLoliGodJul 10, 2014 1:58 PM
IRC- LoliGod |
Jul 10, 2014 1:50 PM
#92
KiraieAeterna said: The MAL community is truly disintegrating no. you just see what you want to see. I know you will not believe me but it doesn't work that way. if you are straight theres no way you will become a gay or child molester or necrophile or whatever else. no drawing can have such an influence on your minds. no drawing can change a persons orentation. its just common sence and so I will not post any links to any researches that wont prove anything anyway. |
please sell me the condom, mister I would like to fuck my sister! condoms really worth to keep I will fuck her very deep! could you be my condom keeper? so I could try to fuck her deeper! please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll. -------------------------------------------------------------- http://protpisaenglish.blogspot.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzn0J8cfrY |
Jul 10, 2014 1:52 PM
#93
If drawing loli is considered to be a crime then making films depicting murder should be equally a crime. |
Jul 10, 2014 2:12 PM
#94
Just like some people are born gay, some are born pedos. They can't help it. You can't chose what attracts you sexually. And they can be pedo all their life and never touch a real kid. So what's the problem if they watch lolicon/shotacon? They were pedos to begin with. Those people are suffering already, why take that little fun away from them? It could just drive them even crazier... No one in their right mind will think that molesting kids is ever right. If someone gets influenced by these kind of stuff, they are a tiny minority and instable to begin with and are the same kind of people who could start a massacre at your local school just because of games like GTA. Having dogs is dangerous as they can kill or severely injure little kids for life. Maybe there are more victims of dog attacks in the world than molested kids (don't know the stats), which causes much more severe consequences for the child and no one even gives a thought. So why persecute people that hadn't even committed a crime yet? But I'll still say, fire to those who molest kids. |
The writer who penned Clashing Feelings. You can buy the light novel on Amazon. |
Jul 10, 2014 2:20 PM
#95
Shiratori-san said: who could start a massacre at your local school just because of games like GTA. nobody would ever do such thing just because of games. there's way more serious reasons to do that and games are just poor excuse for judges. |
please sell me the condom, mister I would like to fuck my sister! condoms really worth to keep I will fuck her very deep! could you be my condom keeper? so I could try to fuck her deeper! please think I m stupid but please dont think I m a troll. -------------------------------------------------------------- http://protpisaenglish.blogspot.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipzn0J8cfrY |
Jul 10, 2014 2:23 PM
#96
Lolis tend to be the best characters in anime, as long as they are not sexualized I'd lovr to keep lolis around. All dese Waifu comments though. |
"Fuck this shit, fun things are fun!" |
Jul 10, 2014 2:25 PM
#97
StardustNyako said: Lolis tend to be the best characters in anime, as long as they are not sexualized I'd lovr to keep lolis around. All dese Waifu comments though. Replace anime with the entirety of Japanese animation because lolis are often the best characters in games as well. |
Jul 10, 2014 4:16 PM
#98
Mhmm. I can't imagine Angel Beats without Kanade and Yui~! I don'tplay fames sooo . . . I question whether desensitization is a real threat or some sort of placebo sort ofthing people become scarecd of and that is when it actually happens. |
"Fuck this shit, fun things are fun!" |
Jul 10, 2014 4:55 PM
#99
Siscon2000 said: I've not heard of any evidence to suggest people were born to be like those. I wonder what other kind of stuff you'll spew and calling it common knowledge next.LilyPrimrose said: Siscon2000 said: KiraieAeterna said: animes&mangas are promoting the ideas of child molestation look if you are (probably) a straight men or straight women is there any posibility to make you into a gay? can you have sex with another male after reading a manga (or even tousand mangas) about it? well it definetly wouldn't work on me in any way... you see its not like I am siscon because I watched yosuga no sora. no its other way around - I watched yosuga no sora because I was siscon from the very begining. ...uhh, being gay is a sexual orientation and is something which just happens. However, pedophilia is a learned behavior. watching lolicon anime which as kiraie said promotes pedophilia (which I agree with) can encourage similar thought patterns and behaviors. pedophilia is a learned behavior? who said that? it is also orentation just rare and twisted one as well as necrophilia, zoophilia, and so on. and thats a common knoledge. they are most likely born this way. |
Jul 11, 2014 12:52 AM
#100
um no. -_- that is just ridiculous. I don't have a loli fetish or anything but come on that's absurd imo also, how would they even regulate it. who is to say it is just a flat-chested midget? or it could be abused and punish ppl who draw anything aven remotely loli, after all everyone draws differently, right? rediculous |
joey101937Jul 11, 2014 1:00 AM
More topics from this board
» Why are women wearing leggings at the gym? ( 1 2 3 )Zakatsuki_ - Oct 30 |
106 |
by shorl10
»»
2 minutes ago |
|
» How was your Halloweenvasipi4946 - 26 minutes ago |
0 |
by vasipi4946
»»
26 minutes ago |
|
Poll: » Do you still consume modern (starting at 2021) western media? If so what kinds?rohan121 - Oct 27 |
24 |
by Theo1899
»»
55 minutes ago |
|
» If you have Netflix, I recommend you watch Lolo and Kidphiltecturophy - 1 hour ago |
0 |
by philtecturophy
»»
1 hour ago |
|
» How to cope with growing apart from friens?Zakatsuki_ - 6 hours ago |
10 |
by Kirika_Madeleine
»»
1 hour ago |