nucleon said: What else would it be for? Is Breaking Bad a seinen?People do have the right to use the word Seinen for the context, do they? Does the word 'seinen' can only mean seinen published material in Japanese? |
| Where it's source is published and what age demographic that novel, magazine, manga, game, etc. is aimed at, in this case males in their late teens to 30. |
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TallonKarrde23 said: High_Five_Ghost said: This is something I've wondered about for a while. Sorry if the question sounds stupid. Why does something qualify as seinen? I get that its target demographic is adult males and I get why Berserk and Gantz fall under the genre. But why does work of Shinobu Kaitani qualify as seinen? I've seen One Outs and it has a fantastic Psychological Thriller story but so did Death Note but the latter doesn't qualify nor does Mirai Nikki. I was just wondering why? Seinen is a manga-specific demographic label which is determined by what magazine publishes the work. It has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the CONTENT of the work. This is why things like K-ON and Mikakunin are seinen, and why shows you believe "should be seinen" may not be. It has nothing to do with anything that is in the story, the way it's drawn, the types of characters, being "mature" or not, having gore or violence, being serious, being 'realistic', nor anything else. So what EXACTLY makes a seinen a seinen? The magazine it is published in and absolutely NOTHING else. I'm totally sure someone else has probably said something along these lines, so take this as a +1 type of post for anyone who has. daintybiscuit said: cripes now you are an elitiist merely for liking the genre labeled seinen? whats next? from what i read on this board over time all you need to do to be an elitist is watch ANY show Seinen is not a genre, also "genre labeled seinen" makes no sense given a genre is a label by definition - so it's kind of redundant (as well as wrong) to say "genre labeled ____". i didn't really overthink the statement. usage as a general nod |
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xDrayken said: K-On, A-Channel, Hidamari Sketch, and Chi's Sweet Home?Dark and serious plots, logical and realistic of morals. Those who say seinen is not a genre are idiots, seinens are targeted towards the general mentallity of young adults, that is what makes it its genre, the targeted audience. Certain genres will have a higher percentage of interest in certain age categories, and a seinen is one of those genres, which is why people would refer it as a mature genre, since it's aimed at a more mature audience. A few exemples could be Monster, Perfect Blue, Tenshi no Tamago, Texhnolyze, Aoi Bungaku series, stuff like that. |
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xDrayken said: Well you should, they're great serious seinens.IntroverTurtle said: xDrayken said: K-On, A-Channel, Hidamari Sketch, and Chi's Sweet Home?Dark and serious plots, logical and realistic of morals. Those who say seinen is not a genre are idiots, seinens are targeted towards the general mentallity of young adults, that is what makes it its genre, the targeted audience. Certain genres will have a higher percentage of interest in certain age categories, and a seinen is one of those genres, which is why people would refer it as a mature genre, since it's aimed at a more mature audience. A few exemples could be Monster, Perfect Blue, Tenshi no Tamago, Texhnolyze, Aoi Bungaku series, stuff like that. Didn't watch those, so I wouldn't know. |
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Motherurck said: BlueKite said: How do they work?Demographics the makers of the show stated to the public what audience they are focusing on, whether it be the rating, or the magazine it come out in. |
Motherurck said: AzuStar said: I know man. I was attempting a magnets how do they work joke. Seems I failed...Motherurck said: BlueKite said: How do they work?Demographics the makers of the show stated to the public what audience they are focusing on, whether it be the rating, or the magazine it come out in. well dang, i am sorry... :L i am just off today. |
| Nothing. There are no seinen anime, only seinen manga. |
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| ironically you only need little girls in order to be classified as a seinen. that's pretty sad actually |
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IntroverTurtle said: K-On, A-Channel, Hidamari Sketch, and Chi's Sweet Home? Are you serious when you say they are all Seinens? A quick search shows me posters of those anime with all multiple young girls. Is it Seinen meant for women exclusively? |
jonnyhan said: Yes, look at their manga pages and look up the magazines they are published in. The demographic does not decide the age and gender or the main character. No such thing, seinen by definition is 18 - 30 year old males, that would be josei or shoujo you are talking about.IntroverTurtle said: K-On, A-Channel, Hidamari Sketch, and Chi's Sweet Home? Are you serious when you say they are all Seinens? A quick search shows me posters of those anime with all multiple young girls. Is it Seinen meant for women exclusively? |
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jonnyhan said: IntroverTurtle said: K-On, A-Channel, Hidamari Sketch, and Chi's Sweet Home? Are you serious when you say they are all Seinens? A quick search shows me posters of those anime with all multiple young girls. Is it Seinen meant for women exclusively? Seinen doesn't only mean battle shounen with gore and psychological elements. A lot of slice-of-life and comedy shows are targeted at the seinen demographic. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Seinen is seinen when it's more psychological and aimed at a higher age group. Not psychological in a Death Note way though, dunno how to explain, but I really feel the difference when it comes to Seinen and Shounen manga. Same with Josei and Shoujo manga. Dunno about the anime adaptions though, those seem quite the same to me. |
Higashi_no_Kaze said: jonnyhan said: IntroverTurtle said: K-On, A-Channel, Hidamari Sketch, and Chi's Sweet Home? Are you serious when you say they are all Seinens? A quick search shows me posters of those anime with all multiple young girls. Is it Seinen meant for women exclusively? Seinen doesn't only mean battle shounen with gore and psychological elements. A lot of slice-of-life and comedy shows are targeted at the seinen demographic. I did not know Seinen meant young males, thought that term just referred to the age group. Anyways when I hear Seinen, names like Monster, Space Bros, Kaiji, Black Lagoon, Kingdom come to mind. I would love to try far more Seinen, but looking at the posters and descriptions of those anime mentioned above, I don't think I will be able to empathize with any of the main characters. |
Praland said: Being published in a seinen magazine |
jonnyhan said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: jonnyhan said: IntroverTurtle said: K-On, A-Channel, Hidamari Sketch, and Chi's Sweet Home? Are you serious when you say they are all Seinens? A quick search shows me posters of those anime with all multiple young girls. Is it Seinen meant for women exclusively? Seinen doesn't only mean battle shounen with gore and psychological elements. A lot of slice-of-life and comedy shows are targeted at the seinen demographic. I did not know Seinen meant young males, thought that term just referred to the age group. Anyways when I hear Seinen, names like Monster, Space Bros, Kaiji, Black Lagoon, Kingdom come to mind. I would love to try far more Seinen, but looking at the posters and descriptions of those anime mentioned above, I don't think I will be able to empathize with any of the main characters. Yeah, we were just trying to show how seinen is not a genre that has a specific appeal (serious, dark, graphic or whatever), but it's just an age group and can be anything from ecchi to sports. Nobody has to like all of those, but that's why it's weird when people say stuff like 'I love Seinen, we need more Seinen adaptions' but they actually just mean a specific type of show that can also exist outside the seinen demographic. |
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mitch3315 said: It's gotta be super grim, dark, edgy and mature. K-ON! is the perfect example of this. This. And everything that is basically borderline hentai. Also involves killing and a lot of blood, like Black Lagoon. |
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| What would JoJo fit under? It's been in Shounen and Seinen magazines |
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2DNow said: What would JoJo fit under? It's been in Shounen and Seinen magazines Parts 1-6 are published in a shounen magazine (Shounen Jump), Parts 7 onwards are published in a seinen magazine (Ultra Jump). So it all depends on the part. |
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| It makes me laugh when people think everything seinen is dark, disturbing, gory, and the best thing ever, whereas shounen is silly, stupid, kiddy, and the worst. They tend to be the grimdark fags. See, a seinen is not a genre, seinen is merely a demographic rather simply determined by what magazine your manga is published in. I mean really, you just think "dark, seinen, horror, gore-crap" when you here names like Chi's Sweet Home, K-On, Tonari no Seki-Kun, Clannad, and One Punch Man. And don't you instantly think of "kiddy, silly, stupid shit" when you hear of titles such as Attack on Titan, Death Note, Mirrai Nikki, Neon Genesis Evangelion, Black Butler, Code Geass, and Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood? Jeeze. (Not to mention the are plenty of "lighthearted" shows that are plenty more interesting, easily of better quality, and all around better than some "ultra dark, super gory, crazy disturbing" shows, in both demographics mind you) |
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