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Feb 20, 2014 4:23 PM
#51
Bleach samurai Naruto ninja One piece pirates 3 of what boys like to pretend they like simple |
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Feb 20, 2014 4:24 PM
#52
Animefreak17a said: Bleach samurai Naruto ninja One piece pirates 3 of what boys like to pretend they like simple I used to pretend I was a superhero or a NINJA turtle so you're wrong |
Feb 20, 2014 4:25 PM
#53
JD2411 said: Finally you said something on-topic and I can commentYes because travelling to one island, beating up random bad guys and leaving again is a surefire way to find One Piece. You obviously didn't pay attention to the anime. The One Piece is in the last island of the Grand Line, and the Grand Line is a very dangerous place full of... dangerous stuff. The only way to reach the last island is to follow the Log Pose, which points to the next island. Once you reach the next island, you must wait some days until the log pose starts pointing to the next one. When they arrive in an Island, they usually leave their ship to buy food and medications, and most times they end up in a fight against the marine or some crazy guy trying to kill them. One Piece is 100% logical, and that is why it deserves to be part of the big 3. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:25 PM
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renders said: They were all taught magic eg Natsu was taught by Igneelbtw when was the last time they read a book to use a flipping spell? |
Feb 20, 2014 4:26 PM
#55
lupadim said: I have seen over 100 episodes of One Piece Lupadim...JD2411 said: Finally you said something on-topic and I can commentYes because travelling to one island, beating up random bad guys and leaving again is a surefire way to find One Piece. You obviously didn't pay attention to the anime. The One Piece is in the last island of the Grand Line, and the Grand Line is a very dangerous place full of... dangerous stuff. The only way to reach the last island is to follow the Log Pose, which points to the next island. Once you reach the next island, you must wait some days until the log pose starts pointing to the next one. When they arrive in an Island, they usually leave their ship to buy food and medications, and most times they end up in a fight against the marine or some crazy guy trying to kill them. One Piece is 100% logical, and that is why it deserves to be part of the big 3. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:28 PM
#56
JD2411 said: No, you saw exactly 100 accordingly to your list.lupadim said: I have seen over 100 episodes of One Piece Lupadim...JD2411 said: Finally you said something on-topic and I can commentYes because travelling to one island, beating up random bad guys and leaving again is a surefire way to find One Piece. You obviously didn't pay attention to the anime. The One Piece is in the last island of the Grand Line, and the Grand Line is a very dangerous place full of... dangerous stuff. The only way to reach the last island is to follow the Log Pose, which points to the next island. Once you reach the next island, you must wait some days until the log pose starts pointing to the next one. When they arrive in an Island, they usually leave their ship to buy food and medications, and most times they end up in a fight against the marine or some crazy guy trying to kill them. One Piece is 100% logical, and that is why it deserves to be part of the big 3. And don't go off-topic please. You attacked One Piece and its position at the big 3. I defended it. Now argue against my points. And I said you didn't pay attention to the anime, not that you didn't watch it. Also, I just noticed something pretty sad http://prntscr.com/2uczmu Well. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:30 PM
#57
SetsukoHara said: The Big three only exists in the west. One Piece is by far the most popular manga in Japan, and because of that, it's by far the most popular manga out there. I'm not following your logic here. one piece has the best worldwide sales because of Japan. That doesn't really mean it is the most popular worldwide. In fact it's nowhere close to being the most popular anything outside of Japan. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:30 PM
#58
lupadim said: You basically said they travel to an island,get supplies, beat up some bad guys and leaveJD2411 said: No, you saw exactly 100 accordingly to your list.lupadim said: I have seen over 100 episodes of One Piece Lupadim...JD2411 said: Finally you said something on-topic and I can commentYes because travelling to one island, beating up random bad guys and leaving again is a surefire way to find One Piece. You obviously didn't pay attention to the anime. The One Piece is in the last island of the Grand Line, and the Grand Line is a very dangerous place full of... dangerous stuff. The only way to reach the last island is to follow the Log Pose, which points to the next island. Once you reach the next island, you must wait some days until the log pose starts pointing to the next one. When they arrive in an Island, they usually leave their ship to buy food and medications, and most times they end up in a fight against the marine or some crazy guy trying to kill them. One Piece is 100% logical, and that is why it deserves to be part of the big 3. And don't go off-topic please. You attacked One Piece and its position at the big 3. I defended it. Now argue against my points. And I said you didn't pay attention to the anime, not that you didn't watch it. Also, I just noticed something pretty sad http://prntscr.com/2uczmu Well. at the moment One Piece is at an 8/10 and Fairy Tail is 9/10. maybe this will change and Lupadim your printscreen proves you have good taste in anime, my friend |
Feb 20, 2014 4:31 PM
#59
Raven_Baby-Gurl said: umashikaneko said: one piece is big where manga is popular than anime. Japan,France,China… western people tend to less like one piece because it seems fake to them,while Japanese tend to less like naruto because it seems fake to Japanese Stupid comment. Even in these bad times naruto is still selling well in Japan. The person you quoted is Japanese... |
Feb 20, 2014 4:34 PM
#60
Whenever someone questions the term "Big 3", I see shit like: "These anime/manga sell more (in Japan) why aren't they part of the big 3?" or "This anime is a fighting shounen and it's better than all of them why isn't this part of the big 3?" So yeah, manga sales in Japan are pretty irrelevant to the term, and I believe quality is as well. I always thought the "Big" wasn't entirely referring to their popularity, in the west or anywhere else, but much of it also to do with the amount of episodes they have; 300+, which is more than DBZ if you don't include DB & DBGT, which many people didn't watch or simply disregard. Also in the case of DBZ, it had finished long before any of them started. Oh and if there are any doubts about their popularity outside of Japan then just check the top anime page in terms of popularity and you'll see all of them there, though the op is slightly justified in what he says; One Piece is the least popular according to that. |
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Feb 20, 2014 4:35 PM
#61
I'd just like to point out again that One Piece is the most successful manga but isn't a large part of that because of how many volumes it has? I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball was more successful in proportion to how many volumes were released plus considering rise in population and higher worldwide popularity of manga worldwide it seems like One Piece has an advantage that Dragon Ball and Astro boy didn't have. I think Dragon Ball and Astro boy were actually the more popular manga. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:36 PM
#62
anyway to answer the op once and for all look at the manga sales each years how all the mangas combines aren't on one piece's sales |
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Feb 20, 2014 4:37 PM
#63
tsudecimo said: As far as manga and anime go it seems to be pretty damn popular in western areas of the world I mean I doubt you'd have any trouble finding One Piece fanatics online.SetsukoHara said: The Big three only exists in the west. One Piece is by far the most popular manga in Japan, and because of that, it's by far the most popular manga out there. I'm not following your logic here. one piece has the best worldwide sales because of Japan. That doesn't really mean it is the most popular worldwide. In fact it's nowhere close to being the most popular anything outside of Japan. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:38 PM
#64
YorozuyaGinSan said: Kuroko no Basket and Magi sell nearly 4,000,000 more volumes per year than Naruto each, why aren't they a part of the "Big 3"? Hell, Attack on Titan tripled Naruto's sales this year, big three anyone? Actually Magi sold 1,597,068 more volumes than Naruto and KnB sold 3.,207,148 more.. Well considering the term was coined for the top 3 manga in Jump, the big 3 should be One piece, KnB and Naruto. |
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Feb 20, 2014 4:38 PM
#65
tsudecimo said: SetsukoHara said: The Big three only exists in the west. One Piece is by far the most popular manga in Japan, and because of that, it's by far the most popular manga out there. I'm not following your logic here. one piece has the best worldwide sales because of Japan. That doesn't really mean it is the most popular worldwide. In fact it's nowhere close to being the most popular anything outside of Japan. Japan is by far the biggest market, and One Piece is by far the most popular in this market. So because of that, obvioulsy it's going to be the most popular in the world. Or are you implying that Japanes count less. They have small penis, yes, but that doesn't mean they are lesser humans. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:40 PM
#66
Nowadays, the question is why is Bleach a part of the big 3? Once the anime finished, it dwindled in every way possible. Anyway, the saying "get them while they are young" also applies. Naruto and Bleach were quite prominent on CN, even though I didn't watch or know what anime was as a kid, I did hear about Naruto and Bleach, but not One Piece. A lot of people who are the biggest fans (notice I didn't say ALL. No generalizations here), have been so since they were kids, even before they knew what anime was. Having gotten into anime pretty recently, I have learned to be more wary of people who praise shows because they grew up with them, and more trusting of those who have viewed them recently. |
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Feb 20, 2014 4:41 PM
#67
BlackSabotage said: Everything impacts sales, it's useless to mention it. Amount of volumes, when it came out, if it has an anime, how good is the anime, chance, population, what other manga started near it, demographic, characters, the story, what magazine it was in, etc, etc, etc. And there are manga that have over twice the amount of volumes that One Piece doubles or triples their sales.I'd just like to point out again that One Piece is the most successful manga but isn't a large part of that because of how many volumes it has? I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball was more successful in proportion to how many volumes were released plus considering rise in population and higher worldwide popularity of manga worldwide it seems like One Piece has an advantage that Dragon Ball and Astro boy didn't have. I think Dragon Ball and Astro boy were actually the more popular manga. And I think One Piece in it's prime might sell more than DBZ in it's prime. Of course I can't prove that because you can just talk about world population to try and downsize it. |
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Feb 20, 2014 4:42 PM
#68
lupadim said: renders said: You offend me, guy with Spiral on the signature (thats something good). Don't compare my tactics with him plzI haven't been on this forum in a long time but I'm guessing this JD person is on lupadim's level BlackSabotage said: How can you use proportion with something like that? If it was the case, gz for Death note the best anime ever madeI'd just like to point out again that One Piece is the most successful manga but isn't a large part of that because of how many volumes it has? I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball was more successful in proportion to how many volumes were released plus considering rise in population and higher worldwide popularity of manga worldwide it seems like One Piece has an advantage that Dragon Ball and Astro boy didn't have. I think Dragon Ball and Astro boy were actually the more popular manga. What do you mean? I was going by sales in proportion to volumes released. Sounds reasonable to me. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:43 PM
#69
BlackSabotage said: It doesn't, really. You can't compare quality with proportion. How many people would watch OP from episode 1 to 650? If One Piece had only 25 episodes, way more people would watch it.lupadim said: renders said: You offend me, guy with Spiral on the signature (thats something good). Don't compare my tactics with him plzI haven't been on this forum in a long time but I'm guessing this JD person is on lupadim's level BlackSabotage said: How can you use proportion with something like that? If it was the case, gz for Death note the best anime ever madeI'd just like to point out again that One Piece is the most successful manga but isn't a large part of that because of how many volumes it has? I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball was more successful in proportion to how many volumes were released plus considering rise in population and higher worldwide popularity of manga worldwide it seems like One Piece has an advantage that Dragon Ball and Astro boy didn't have. I think Dragon Ball and Astro boy were actually the more popular manga. What do you mean? I was going by sales in proportion to volumes released. Sounds reasonable to me. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:45 PM
#70
IntroverTurtle said: I'm just saying a lot of people act like One Piece is the most popular anime of all time because its the most successful but I don't think that's necessarily true. Its certainly the most popular that's still ongoing but I don't think its the most popular of all time as many here claim it is.BlackSabotage said: Everything impacts sales, it's useless to mention it. Amount of volumes, when it came out, if it has an anime, how good is the anime, chance, population, what other manga started near it, demographic, characters, the story, what magazine it was in, etc, etc, etc.I'd just like to point out again that One Piece is the most successful manga but isn't a large part of that because of how many volumes it has? I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball was more successful in proportion to how many volumes were released plus considering rise in population and higher worldwide popularity of manga worldwide it seems like One Piece has an advantage that Dragon Ball and Astro boy didn't have. I think Dragon Ball and Astro boy were actually the more popular manga. And I think One Piece in it's prime might sell more than DBZ in it's prime. Of course I can't prove that because you can just talk about world population to try and downsize it. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:47 PM
#71
BlackSabotage said: As far as manga and anime go it seems to be pretty damn popular in western areas of the world I mean I doubt you'd have any trouble finding One Piece fanatics online. I didn't say it wasn't popular, I said it isn't the most popular anything outside of Japan. SetsukoHara said: Japan is by far the biggest market, and One Piece is by far the most popular in this market. So because of that, obvioulsy it's going to be the most popular in the world. Or are you implying that Japanes count less. They have small penis, yes, but that doesn't mean they are lesser humans. First of all was the racial joke really necessary? so tasteless and trite. What kind of logic is that? so other countries don't count? one piece have 270 million in Japan alone, meaning that it didn't even sell more than 30 outside of Japan. How does that make it the most popular when DB and Naruto exist? |
Feb 20, 2014 4:47 PM
#72
lupadim said: I was talking about quality I was talking about success.BlackSabotage said: It doesn't, really. You can't compare quality with proportion. How many people would watch OP from episode 1 to 650? If One Piece had only 25 episodes, way more people would watch it.lupadim said: renders said: You offend me, guy with Spiral on the signature (thats something good). Don't compare my tactics with him plzI haven't been on this forum in a long time but I'm guessing this JD person is on lupadim's level BlackSabotage said: How can you use proportion with something like that? If it was the case, gz for Death note the best anime ever madeI'd just like to point out again that One Piece is the most successful manga but isn't a large part of that because of how many volumes it has? I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball was more successful in proportion to how many volumes were released plus considering rise in population and higher worldwide popularity of manga worldwide it seems like One Piece has an advantage that Dragon Ball and Astro boy didn't have. I think Dragon Ball and Astro boy were actually the more popular manga. What do you mean? I was going by sales in proportion to volumes released. Sounds reasonable to me. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:48 PM
#73
BlackSabotage said: I'd just like to point out again that One Piece is the most successful manga but isn't a large part of that because of how many volumes it has? I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball was more successful in proportion to how many volumes were released plus considering rise in population and higher worldwide popularity of manga worldwide it seems like One Piece has an advantage that Dragon Ball and Astro boy didn't have. I think Dragon Ball and Astro boy were actually the more popular manga. Yeah DB was more successful. It's just not as long as one piece. I imagine one piece sales would have been different if DB was running alongside it. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:49 PM
#74
tsudecimo said: Can you link me to where your getting these statistics? Not being a smart ass I actually wanna know.BlackSabotage said: As far as manga and anime go it seems to be pretty damn popular in western areas of the world I mean I doubt you'd have any trouble finding One Piece fanatics online. I didn't say it wasn't popular, I said it isn't the most popular anything outside of Japan. SetsukoHara said: Japan is by far the biggest market, and One Piece is by far the most popular in this market. So because of that, obvioulsy it's going to be the most popular in the world. Or are you implying that Japanes count less. They have small penis, yes, but that doesn't mean they are lesser humans. First of all was the racial joke really necessary? so tasteless and trite. What kind of logic is that? so other countries don't count? one piece have 270 million in Japan alone, meaning that it didn't even sell more than 30 outside of Japan. How does that make it the most popular when DB and Naruto exist? |
Feb 20, 2014 4:49 PM
#75
BlackSabotage said: Contradictions at their best.lupadim said: I was talking about quality I was talking about success.BlackSabotage said: It doesn't, really. You can't compare quality with proportion. How many people would watch OP from episode 1 to 650? If One Piece had only 25 episodes, way more people would watch it.lupadim said: renders said: You offend me, guy with Spiral on the signature (thats something good). Don't compare my tactics with him plzI haven't been on this forum in a long time but I'm guessing this JD person is on lupadim's level BlackSabotage said: How can you use proportion with something like that? If it was the case, gz for Death note the best anime ever madeI'd just like to point out again that One Piece is the most successful manga but isn't a large part of that because of how many volumes it has? I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball was more successful in proportion to how many volumes were released plus considering rise in population and higher worldwide popularity of manga worldwide it seems like One Piece has an advantage that Dragon Ball and Astro boy didn't have. I think Dragon Ball and Astro boy were actually the more popular manga. What do you mean? I was going by sales in proportion to volumes released. Sounds reasonable to me. Fine, let's talk about success as well, tell me who is the #1 manga seller at Japan |
Feb 20, 2014 4:51 PM
#76
RedRoseFring said: Nowadays, the question is why is Bleach a part of the big 3? Once the anime finished, it dwindled in every way possible. Actually Bleach has better ratings than Naruto and one piece in Tonami. Make of that what you will. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:51 PM
#77
tsudecimo said: I also think Astroboy may have been just as if not more successful if you look at it this way, especially taking into account its age.BlackSabotage said: I'd just like to point out again that One Piece is the most successful manga but isn't a large part of that because of how many volumes it has? I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball was more successful in proportion to how many volumes were released plus considering rise in population and higher worldwide popularity of manga worldwide it seems like One Piece has an advantage that Dragon Ball and Astro boy didn't have. I think Dragon Ball and Astro boy were actually the more popular manga. Yeah DB was more successful. It's just not as long as one piece. I imagine one piece sales would have been different if DB was running alongside it. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:52 PM
#78
BlackSabotage said: Yet you don't have any proof of that, all we have are the current sales. And Dragonball's current sales are also from when it's been finished, the anime and such didn't get popular in in the west(which is where DB gets almost half it's sales) until the late 90s yes?IntroverTurtle said: I'm just saying a lot of people act like One Piece is the most popular anime of all time because its the most successful but I don't think that's necessarily true. Its certainly the most popular that's still ongoing but I don't think its the most popular of all time as many here claim it is.BlackSabotage said: Everything impacts sales, it's useless to mention it. Amount of volumes, when it came out, if it has an anime, how good is the anime, chance, population, what other manga started near it, demographic, characters, the story, what magazine it was in, etc, etc, etc.I'd just like to point out again that One Piece is the most successful manga but isn't a large part of that because of how many volumes it has? I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball was more successful in proportion to how many volumes were released plus considering rise in population and higher worldwide popularity of manga worldwide it seems like One Piece has an advantage that Dragon Ball and Astro boy didn't have. I think Dragon Ball and Astro boy were actually the more popular manga. And I think One Piece in it's prime might sell more than DBZ in it's prime. Of course I can't prove that because you can just talk about world population to try and downsize it. tsudecimo said: One Piece sold 300 million in Japan and 50 million outside of Japan. SetsukoHara said: Japan is by far the biggest market, and One Piece is by far the most popular in this market. So because of that, obvioulsy it's going to be the most popular in the world. Or are you implying that Japanes count less. They have small penis, yes, but that doesn't mean they are lesser humans. First of all was the racial joke really necessary? so tasteless and trite. What kind of logic is that? so other countries don't count? one piece have 270 million in Japan alone, meaning that it didn't even sell more than 30 outside of Japan. How does that make it the most popular when DB and Naruto exist? |
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Feb 20, 2014 4:53 PM
#79
lupadim said: BlackSabotage said: Contradictions at their best.lupadim said: I was talking about quality I was talking about success.BlackSabotage said: It doesn't, really. You can't compare quality with proportion. How many people would watch OP from episode 1 to 650? If One Piece had only 25 episodes, way more people would watch it.lupadim said: renders said: You offend me, guy with Spiral on the signature (thats something good). Don't compare my tactics with him plzI haven't been on this forum in a long time but I'm guessing this JD person is on lupadim's level BlackSabotage said: How can you use proportion with something like that? If it was the case, gz for Death note the best anime ever madeI'd just like to point out again that One Piece is the most successful manga but isn't a large part of that because of how many volumes it has? I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball was more successful in proportion to how many volumes were released plus considering rise in population and higher worldwide popularity of manga worldwide it seems like One Piece has an advantage that Dragon Ball and Astro boy didn't have. I think Dragon Ball and Astro boy were actually the more popular manga. What do you mean? I was going by sales in proportion to volumes released. Sounds reasonable to me. Fine, let's talk about success as well, tell me who is the #1 manga seller at Japan Sorry I meant to say I was NOT talking bout quality just success and popularity. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:54 PM
#80
BlackSabotage said: Then you agree with me that One Piece is extremely popular? It is the #1 seller at Japan. It deserves to be at the big 3.Sorry I meant to say I was NOT talking bout quality just success and popularity. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:55 PM
#81
IntroverTurtle said: Did the Dragon Ball manga actually sell that well in the west? I figured One Piece would have sold much better in the west considering all the One Piece fanatics.BlackSabotage said: Yet you don't have any proof of that, all we have are the current sales. And Dragonball's current sales are also from when it's been finished, the anime and such didn't get popular in in the west(which is where DB gets almost half it's sales) until the late 90s yes?IntroverTurtle said: I'm just saying a lot of people act like One Piece is the most popular anime of all time because its the most successful but I don't think that's necessarily true. Its certainly the most popular that's still ongoing but I don't think its the most popular of all time as many here claim it is.BlackSabotage said: Everything impacts sales, it's useless to mention it. Amount of volumes, when it came out, if it has an anime, how good is the anime, chance, population, what other manga started near it, demographic, characters, the story, what magazine it was in, etc, etc, etc.I'd just like to point out again that One Piece is the most successful manga but isn't a large part of that because of how many volumes it has? I'm pretty sure Dragon Ball was more successful in proportion to how many volumes were released plus considering rise in population and higher worldwide popularity of manga worldwide it seems like One Piece has an advantage that Dragon Ball and Astro boy didn't have. I think Dragon Ball and Astro boy were actually the more popular manga. And I think One Piece in it's prime might sell more than DBZ in it's prime. Of course I can't prove that because you can just talk about world population to try and downsize it. tsudecimo said: One Piece sold 300 million in Japan and 50 million outside of Japan. SetsukoHara said: Japan is by far the biggest market, and One Piece is by far the most popular in this market. So because of that, obvioulsy it's going to be the most popular in the world. Or are you implying that Japanes count less. They have small penis, yes, but that doesn't mean they are lesser humans. First of all was the racial joke really necessary? so tasteless and trite. What kind of logic is that? so other countries don't count? one piece have 270 million in Japan alone, meaning that it didn't even sell more than 30 outside of Japan. How does that make it the most popular when DB and Naruto exist? |
Feb 20, 2014 4:55 PM
#82
tsudecimo said: BlackSabotage said: As far as manga and anime go it seems to be pretty damn popular in western areas of the world I mean I doubt you'd have any trouble finding One Piece fanatics online. I didn't say it wasn't popular, I said it isn't the most popular anything outside of Japan. SetsukoHara said: Japan is by far the biggest market, and One Piece is by far the most popular in this market. So because of that, obvioulsy it's going to be the most popular in the world. Or are you implying that Japanes count less. They have small penis, yes, but that doesn't mean they are lesser humans. First of all was the racial joke really necessary? so tasteless and trite. What kind of logic is that? so other countries don't count? one piece have 270 million in Japan alone, meaning that it didn't even sell more than 30 outside of Japan. How does that make it the most popular when DB and Naruto exist?[/quote Don't waste your time on him. No matter what u say, it will not connect with this dude. He's blinded by his love for one piece. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:56 PM
#83
SetsukoHara said: Japan is by far the biggest market, and One Piece is by far the most popular in this market. So because of that, obvioulsy it's going to be the most popular in the world. Or are you implying that Japanes count less. They have small penis, yes, but that doesn't mean they are lesser humans. First of all was the racial joke really necessary? so tasteless and trite. What kind of logic is that? so other countries don't count? one piece have 270 million in Japan alone, meaning that it didn't even sell more than 30 outside of Japan. How does that make it the most popular when DB and Naruto exist? The racial joke wasn't necessary, no, but I felt like doing it. Because, who cares about the nationality of the buyers? It's your logic that is flawed. What's the point of being the most succesful if it's in an insignificant market. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:57 PM
#84
lupadim said: Oh yeah I agree its popular and extremely successful. Easily the biggest manga in Japan at this time. I was simply suggesting that Dragon Ball and Astro boy were perhaps bigger in their time.BlackSabotage said: Then you agree with me that One Piece is extremely popular? It is the #1 seller at Japan. It deserves to be at the big 3.Sorry I meant to say I was NOT talking bout quality just success and popularity. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:57 PM
#85
BlackSabotage said: Yes I believe it's only sold about 145 million volumes in Japan and worldwide it's sold 230 million. So a little less than 100 million. One Piece in comparison has sold 50 million outside of Japan and 300 million in Japan. Dragonball has had much more coverage in the west.Did the Dragon Ball manga actually sell that well in the west? I figured One Piece would have sold much better in the west considering all the One Piece fanatics. |
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Feb 20, 2014 4:59 PM
#86
keragamming said: You are pissing me off right now. In first place, look at your avatar pic. You probably want to remove OP from the Big 3 and throw HxH inside. And the new big 3 will be Bleach, Fairy Tail and HxH (the three anime that SHOULDN'T BE at the big 3). Pfft, the irony.Don't waste your time on him. No matter what u say, it will not connect with this dude. He's blinded by his love for one piece. Secondly: Crunchyroll said: As expected, Eiichiro Oda's One Piece took the first place in the manga sales ranking again selling 18,151,599 copies in total. The manga has taken the top spot in 5 years in a row since 2009. It had 300 million copies in print with the 72nd volume which was released in Japan on November 1. And that is the JAPAN sales. They sold a LOT outside as well, definitely more than 50 millions. Now look at your pesky Bleach sales. Hahah. Look at HxH sales. Oh boy! |
Feb 20, 2014 4:59 PM
#87
You know what I realize. Most people are talking about one piece manga. Why no love for the anime? I know, since it's really not that good outside of Japan. |
Feb 20, 2014 4:59 PM
#88
IntroverTurtle said: Ahh did not know that. But again which sold more in proportion to volumes released?BlackSabotage said: Yes I believe it's only sold about 145 million volumes in Japan and worldwide it's sold 230 million. So a little less than 100 million. One Piece in comparison has sold 50 million outside of Japan and 300 million in Japan. Dragonball has had much more coverage in the west.Did the Dragon Ball manga actually sell that well in the west? I figured One Piece would have sold much better in the west considering all the One Piece fanatics. |
Feb 20, 2014 5:00 PM
#89
keragamming said: We are going to talk about One Piece's strong point obviously, which is the plot/story and the characters. They are better in the manga (the anime has too much fanservice and stretching). Not a big deal, stop running away from the fact OP > Your favorites and that OP will always be at the big 3You know what I realize. Most people are talking about one piece manga. Why no love for the anime? I know, since it's really not that good outside of Japan. I mean http://prntscr.com/2ud91g OP, do you have anything else to complain about One Piece being in the big 3? |
Feb 20, 2014 5:01 PM
#90
keragamming said: I think cause its harder to measure the success of an anime where with manga you can go by sales of volumes.You know what I realize. Most people are talking about one piece manga. Why no love for the anime? I know, since it's really not that good outside of Japan. |
Feb 20, 2014 5:01 PM
#91
keragamming said: Don't waste your time on him. No matter what u say, it will not connect with this dude. He's blinded by his love for one piece. We're talking about figures, and I provided lots of them to you, while you provided nothing, so who is blind between the two of us? Don't worry, this time, you don't have to answer. |
Feb 20, 2014 5:02 PM
#92
lupadim said: keragamming said: You are pissing me off right now. In first place, look at your avatar pic. You probably want to remove OP from the Big 3 and throw HxH inside. And the new big 3 will be Bleach, Fairy Tail and HxH (the three anime that SHOULDN'T BE at the big 3). Pfft, the irony.Don't waste your time on him. No matter what u say, it will not connect with this dude. He's blinded by his love for one piece. Nah, If u look at myanimelist u would know I like one piece. I'm just questioning its popularity outside of Japan, compare to dbz, naruto, and bleach. I wanted to know the reason, since the anime is not all that popular outside of Japan, even the manga as well. |
Feb 20, 2014 5:02 PM
#93
tsudecimo said: RedRoseFring said: Nowadays, the question is why is Bleach a part of the big 3? Once the anime finished, it dwindled in every way possible. Actually Bleach has better ratings than Naruto and one piece in Tonami. Make of that what you will. It's done. Simple as that. Many people are more willing to watch a series they know is over rather than one that is ongoing with more episodes. |
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Feb 20, 2014 5:03 PM
#94
BlackSabotage said: That's something you might want to check when they're both on equal grounds. So both finished and give One Piece an extra 20 years to gain sales or find out their sales from when both were at the same amount of volumes. Right now I believe One Piece might be making more per volume than DB ever did.IntroverTurtle said: Ahh did not know that. But again which sold more in proportion to volumes released?BlackSabotage said: Yes I believe it's only sold about 145 million volumes in Japan and worldwide it's sold 230 million. So a little less than 100 million. One Piece in comparison has sold 50 million outside of Japan and 300 million in Japan. Dragonball has had much more coverage in the west.Did the Dragon Ball manga actually sell that well in the west? I figured One Piece would have sold much better in the west considering all the One Piece fanatics. |
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Feb 20, 2014 5:04 PM
#95
keragamming said: I just checked a streaming website here in Brazil. It is not famous, actually most people here use others, but this one has over 300k views for recent OP episodes. If Brazil's streaming has that much popularity for the ANIME, I think you can imagine how popular OP islupadim said: keragamming said: You are pissing me off right now. In first place, look at your avatar pic. You probably want to remove OP from the Big 3 and throw HxH inside. And the new big 3 will be Bleach, Fairy Tail and HxH (the three anime that SHOULDN'T BE at the big 3). Pfft, the irony.Don't waste your time on him. No matter what u say, it will not connect with this dude. He's blinded by his love for one piece. Secondly: Crunchyroll said: As expected, Eiichiro Oda's One Piece took the first place in the manga sales ranking again selling 18,151,599 copies in total. The manga has taken the top spot in 5 years in a row since 2009. It had 300 million copies in print with the 72nd volume which was released in Japan on November 1. And that is the JAPAN sales. They sold a LOT outside as well, definitely more than 50 millions. Now look at your pesky Bleach sales. Hahah. Look at HxH sales. Oh boy! Nah, If u look at myanimelist u would know I like one piece. I'm just questioning its popularity outside of Japan, compare to dbz, naruto, and bleach. I wanted to know the reason, since the anime is not all that popular outside of Japan, even the manga as well. |
Feb 20, 2014 5:04 PM
#96
SetsukoHara said: The racial joke wasn't necessary, no, but I felt like doing it. Because, who cares about the nationality of the buyers? It's your logic that is flawed. What's the point of being the most succesful if it's in an insignificant market. Looks like you are trying to change the subject. I was arguing about the popularity, I didn't comment on whether the popularity outside of Japan is important or not, since obviously it's way more significant in Japan. BlackSabotage said: Can you link me to where your getting these statistics? Not being a smart ass I actually wanna know. Well I only have statics that prove Naruto is more popular than one piece from a thread way back. I think Bleach is also more popular than one piece. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-04-01/n-america-2007-anime-market-pegged-at-us$2.8-billion http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-06-08/bookscan-manga-ranking-may-28-june-3 http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-06-05/bookscan-manga-ranking-may-21-27 http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=653399&show=0 http://i.imgur.com/QwLuvhY.png Naruto's search index is about 3 times of One Piece while in some countries especially Japan and France One Piece has about 4 and 2 times search index as compared to Naruto. SImilarly if you look at the video game sales data for PS3 of the top selling One Piece and Naruto games:- Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm 2 (PS3) North America: 0.39m 34.5% + Europe: 0.42m 37.3% + Japan: 0.15m 13.2% + Rest of the World: 0.17m 15.0% = Global 1.13m One Piece Pirate Musou (PS3) North America: 0.00m 0.1% + Europe: 0.13m 13.0% + Japan: 0.86m 82.6% + Rest of the World: 0.04m 4.3% = Global 1.04m One can see that the majority of the sales of the One Piece game are from Japan while North American and Europe contribute towards the sales of the Naruto game more. This percentage is further amplified if you also add the 0.72 million game sales for the Xbox 360 which are from North America and Europe(I guess not many people have Xbox 360 in Japan). It's a statistical fact that Naruto manga sells much much more than one piece manga in the US. Naruto's dub was more popular than One Piece 4kids dub for obvious reasons. Naruto had great ratings in CN and Toonami since way back then and until now in 2013 even though it's popularity isn't in it's peak now it's still above One Piece http://toonamifaithful.com/toonami-ratings-for-august-3rd-2013/, http://toonamifaithful.com/ , I think you can find the ratings for when it was in it's peak of popularity in 2005-2006 ( or whatever the time it aired on), if you google it. Naruto current gen console games are annual and popular while one piece games often don't get a EU/NA release and the PS3 game that did wasn't popular at all. Taking MAL stats: Naruto Members: 288,393 members (#4) Naruto Shippuuden Members: 220,257 members (#15) One Piece Members: 189,549 members (#27) Manga sales in US: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_New_York_Times_Manga_Best_Sellers Then there is internet popularity on fan sites, youtube views, tumblr, normal sites etc. Which I can't be bother to prove statistically nor that I know how. |
Feb 20, 2014 5:05 PM
#97
keragamming said: lupadim said: keragamming said: You are pissing me off right now. In first place, look at your avatar pic. You probably want to remove OP from the Big 3 and throw HxH inside. And the new big 3 will be Bleach, Fairy Tail and HxH (the three anime that SHOULDN'T BE at the big 3). Pfft, the irony.Don't waste your time on him. No matter what u say, it will not connect with this dude. He's blinded by his love for one piece. Nah, If u look at myanimelist u would know I like one piece. I'm just questioning its popularity outside of Japan, compare to dbz, naruto, and bleach. I wanted to know the reason, since the anime is not all that popular outside of Japan, even the manga as well. Again, US =/= world. |
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Feb 20, 2014 5:05 PM
#98
Also, the Dragon Ball manga came out years before the One Piece. So while you say it's unfair to compare Dragon Ball to One Piece, because One Piece have more volumes, I can say it's unfair to compare the 42 first volumes of One Piece to the 42 volumes of Dragon Ball, because they weren't released at the same time. |
Feb 20, 2014 5:06 PM
#99
lupadim said: keragamming said: We are going to talk about One Piece's strong point obviously, which is the plot/story and the characters. They are better in the manga (the anime has too much fanservice and stretching). Not a big deal, stop running away from the fact OP > Your favorites and that OP will always be at the big 3You know what I realize. Most people are talking about one piece manga. Why no love for the anime? I know, since it's really not that good outside of Japan. I mean http://prntscr.com/2ud91g OP, do you have anything else to complain about One Piece being in the big 3? So u admit that the anime is not popular outside of Japan then? |
Feb 20, 2014 5:07 PM
#100
keragamming said: I was going to say you are a troll but that would be self modding. Still, I even posted that:lupadim said: keragamming said: We are going to talk about One Piece's strong point obviously, which is the plot/story and the characters. They are better in the manga (the anime has too much fanservice and stretching). Not a big deal, stop running away from the fact OP > Your favorites and that OP will always be at the big 3You know what I realize. Most people are talking about one piece manga. Why no love for the anime? I know, since it's really not that good outside of Japan. I mean http://prntscr.com/2ud91g OP, do you have anything else to complain about One Piece being in the big 3? So u admit that the anime is not popular outside of Japan then? lupadim said: ]I just checked a streaming website here in Brazil. It is not famous, actually most people here use others, but this one has over 300k views for recent OP episodes. If Brazil's streaming has that much popularity for the ANIME, I think you can imagine how popular OP is How can you say I admit that? Seriously |
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