| I was going to start a new thread on this, but since this is already here hopefully it will pick up. Favorites include -- TV: Adventure Time, Archer, American Dad, Bob's Burgers, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Spongebob, Invader Zim Movies: Disney and Pixar of course (of the most recent, Tangled), How to Train Your Dragon So, generally, unless it's movies for a wide audience, it's adult targeted material. Not sure, why that is? A lot of flexibility with animation perhaps. Archer is literally made with Flash lol. |
| Venture Bros... oh hank and dean you hot pieces of adult swim! i have most of it on DVD (the ultimate form of admiration in my book - to buy my own copies - it sits next to Dave Chappelle, lol - and have seen the first few seasons many times. I'm a massive fan of this series. So so clever and unusual - the twist on Johnny Quest has had many amazing moments and episodes. I'm disappointed in the turns the last two "seasons" (what, was last season 6 episodes? lol) but it will always be in my heart for being so goddamn fucking awesome |
| Avatar: Last Airbender and Legend of Korra Teen Titans Spongebob And a whole bunch of other nick cartoons. |
| Is anyone watching Rick & Morty? It's a new show on adult swim, from the guy who made Community. It's about a kid getting dragged into his drunken/genius grandfather's experiments-- sort of. I think it's five episodes in now. I like it a lot so far, one of my favourite tv shows atm. |
EeyoreJan 20, 2014 2:33 PM
| Avatar destroys a lot of anime shows I've seen. I find that a lot of anime uses big boobs, under age school girls and a lot of violence to gain viewers. I still need to watch the last season of the justice league. I also want to watch Aeon Flux. |
ElectricgroovesJan 20, 2014 2:49 PM
| Avatar is anime. Screw all the haters. |
| Click on this. I dare you. | MAL Fantasy Football League | Currently Watching List RWBY Club. RWBY is anime. Deal with it. |
| Martin Mystery- great anime style western cartoon with a mix of sci - fi and fantasy. LOVED the character designs for the monsters, aliens etc. American Dad- superior to Family Guy with better and more interesting characters. Boondocks - words cannot even explain how great this is. Thundercats (2011) - good story , interesting characters and nice artstyle Avatar TLA and Legend of Korra- two of the most interesting American cartoons ever created. Definitely on par with a battle shonen anime like Naruto. DC Direct to DVD animated movies- SEVERELY UNDERRATED Most of these animated movies try to keep to the source material as close as possible just like what is usually done when making an anime based on a manga. Crème de la Crème of the DC animated movies : 1. Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2820466/?ref_=nv_sr_3 2. Justice League: Doom http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2027128/?ref_=nv_sr_6 3. Batman: Year One http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1672723/?ref_=nv_sr_1 4. Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Part 1 and Part 2 5. Green Lantern: First Flight http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1384590/?ref_=nv_sr_1 6. Green Lantern: Emerald Knights http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1683043/?ref_=nv_sr_6 7. Batman: Under the Red Hood http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1569923/?ref_=nv_sr_1 8. Wonder Woman http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1186373/?ref_=nv_sr_4 I CAN'T WAIT FOR Justice League: War , Son of Batman and Batman: Assault on Arkham |
DrGeroCreationJan 20, 2014 3:34 PM
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| Yeah the DC cartoon movies are really good. The Flashpoint paradox and Dark Knight Returns are my favorites. Anyone ever see The Ultimate Avenger movies? I thought that they had some great scenes and the animation was pretty damn good. Also loved the old Justice League cartoon. There were a few other shows I liked from that time like Gargoyles but I can't really remember them. Avatar TLA is definitely better than a lot of the anime I have watched. I still need to watch the second season of Korra but I've heard mixed reviews about it. I liked the first season though. Haven't watched Boondocks but I really want to start it because of all the hype I see about it. Haven't seen Thundercats but maybe I'll check it out. |
KyuuAL said: Avatar is anime. Screw all the haters. it's a very hot topic but just because people don't consider it to be an anime (like me), it doesn't mean they hate it. |
| No love for Metalocalypse? :( |
| Never forget, that if you post a topic, you're not allowed to post in it yourself, by order of MAL administration. |
7thFonon said: They are still considered western cartoons though that's why they can't be added to the MAL database.DrGeroCreation said: quote Even though the story/concept/voice actors of the show are western, Boondocks' animation is Korea. :P Avatar, is also the same exact case as Boondocks. FreshPrinceofMAL said: I saw both Ultimate Avengers movies and other marvel animated movies and they were okay but for me they don't have the same charm as the DC direct to DVD movies. Marvel to me excels more in live action than animated movies.Anyone ever see The Ultimate Avenger movies? I thought that they had some great scenes and the animation was pretty damn good. |
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| regardless of where, or by who, boondocks was created, the narrative is purely american in its treatment of racial issues edit: i too love it the show - "can she run in high heels really, really fast?" (not the exact quote, lol) |
| South Park Aqua Teen Hunger Force Squidbillies Rick and Morty someone mentioned Boondocks - would list it but I've already watched every episode multiple times, and they aren't making new episodes as far as I know of |
tylerdurden876Jan 20, 2014 9:33 PM
| my avatar is the bus driver from Rosario + Vampire |
| archer is among one of my favorite at this point, there is some genius running jokes, witty dialogue, crazy set pieces that manage to have variety to them, and just a phenomenal ability to escalate things and catch thew viewer off guard |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Favorite animated shows: 1. Batman: TAS 2. Justice League 3. Justice League Unlimited 4. Avatar: The Last Airbender 5. Legend Of Korra 6. Adventure Time 7. Regular Show 8. Hey Arnold 9. Ren & Stimpy 10. Young Justice Honorable mentions: Gargoyles, X-Men (90's version) Favorite adult animation shows: 1. The Boondocks 2. Simpsons (seasons 1-10) 3. Futurama 4. South Park 5. King Of The Hill 6. Archer 7. Venture Bros. 8. American Dad 9. Metalocalypse 10. Beavis & Butthead |
MajinSagaJan 20, 2014 9:03 PM
Dubs>subs. Breaking Bad>Anime Comic books>manga 99% of Anime is Garbage |
| Ohh, Gravity Falls is great, and if you haven't seen it I suggest at least trying it. |
FreshPrinceofMAL said: Yeah the DC cartoon movies are really good. The Flashpoint paradox and Dark Knight Returns are my favorites. Anyone ever see The Ultimate Avenger movies? I thought that they had some great scenes and the animation was pretty damn good. Also loved the old Justice League cartoon. There were a few other shows I liked from that time like Gargoyles but I can't really remember them. Avatar TLA is definitely better than a lot of the anime I have watched. I still need to watch the second season of Korra but I've heard mixed reviews about it. I liked the first season though. Haven't watched Boondocks but I really want to start it because of all the hype I see about it. Haven't seen Thundercats but maybe I'll check it out. You need to watch "Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm" if you enjoyed those. |
Dubs>subs. Breaking Bad>Anime Comic books>manga 99% of Anime is Garbage |
| I have always been a fan of the classic Hollywood theatrical shorts of the 1930s through 1950s. The crazy cartoons produced by Warner Bros. are my favorites, but MGM, Fleischer, and Disney also produced a number of good ones. I still consider these the standards against which I judge other animated productions. Some of the subject matter is dated now, and some of the cartoons are extremely offensive by today's standards due to their ethnic humor, but the artistic quality is superb. One favorite of mine is "Porky in Wackyland." It is one of the weirdest and most creative cartoons produced during this period; there is nothing else quite like it, and it must be seen to be believed. It is crazy and surreal, but it never strays from its primary purpose, which is comedy. I particularly enjoy the wartime propaganda cartoons from the various studios. Some are very creative, while others are just silly. Disney's "Der Fuehrer's Face" is a classic of the genre. From Warner Bros., "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips" is hilarious, but one must be willing to overlook the nasty anti-Japanese caricatures. (During World War II, anti-Japanese propaganda could get quite vicious.) Also from Warner Bros., "Herr Meets Hare" pokes fun at the Germans by featuring a caricature of an idiotic Hermann Goering, and "Russian Rhapsody" shows Hitler flying a plane and getting angry (as only he can) as it is sabotaged by Russian gremlins. In "Scrap Happy Daffy," Daffy Duck tries to defend his scrap pile from a ravenous Nazi goat. |
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monster7foot6 said: someone mentioned Boondocks - would list it but I've already watched every episode multiple times, and they aren't making new episodes as far as I know of actually, a new season is coming out later this year. |
NoSurrender1690 said: Us tv anime mation give me a LOGH style of show and il take it seriously But LOGH was an OVA, not on TV. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| someone mentioned archer, which reminded me of my old favorites Sealab 2012 Space Ghost Coast to Coast Harvey Birdman i know theres more but my dvd collection is blocked right now lol love that shit. |
| Hmmm this is a hard thread as I don't watch cartoons as regularly as I watch anime. I recently caught up to all of Bob's Burgers. Did the same to Adventure time like half a year ago. Need to rewatch Avatar one of these days(I stopped like 3 episodes before the finale, when he got on the turtle). Also watching Betty Boop slowly as it's public domain. Quite interesting to watch old western animation. |
     Short of the day: Monotonous Purgatory(MAL) ✰Public Domain Club | One Piece Club✰ |
| I don't watch western animation because I'm not a man-child |
daintybiscuit said: sealab was the best, its made even better when you go watch the series they were parodying and seeing how utterly BORING it was, seeing how they turned such a mind numbingly slow show that never made it past 1 season into thise 4 season long hilarious and insane telivision series is just hilarious in and of itself, funnily enough archer and sealab as well as frisky dingo have almost identical staffs and writers but they grew over time, hence why last season it ended on them going to sealabSealab 2012 |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
UnculturedWhitey said: No love for Metalocalypse? :( lol I love Metalocalypse but it's not something I keep up with "Stop copies me!!" gets me every time DrGeroCreation said: DC Direct to DVD animated movies- SEVERELY UNDERRATED Most of these animated movies try to keep to the source material as close as possible just like what is usually done when making an anime based on a manga. Crème de la Crème of the DC animated movies Not a movie, but Young Justice is supposed to be very good though it's on my to watch list currently. Thanks for these. |
IntroverTurtle said: Also watching Betty Boop slowly as it's public domain. Quite interesting to watch old western animation. Betty Boop is very interesting. If you haven't run into them yet, there are a few I would recommend. "Snow White," "Minnie the Moocher," and "The Old Man of the Mountain" all feature music by Cab Calloway, one of the great jazz orchestra leaders of the 1930s. They also feature controversial content. "Minnie the Moocher" contains oblique jive references to drug use. "I'll Be Glad When You're Dead You Rascal You" features music by the great Louis Armstrong and some very stereotypical jungle cannibals. Animation quality is very good for the early 1930s, as is often the case with early Fleischer productions. These four were made before enforcement of the Motion Picture Production Code began in 1934; the pre-code period, from the beginning of talking pictures in the late 1920s to 1934, was one of considerable artistic freedom in Hollywood, and even cartoons such as these could be quite racy. After enforcement of the Code began, the Betty Boop cartoons were toned down considerably, and even her character design was changed. The pre-code Betty Boop cartoons are classics. It seems that many Fleischer productions of the 1930s have entered the public domain because the rights holder did not maintain the copyrights when they came up for renewal, so free and legal copies are readily available on archive.org and YouTube. The character design of Betty Boop shows some interesting parallels with anime. The cute and sexy cartoon girl with the oversized head, round eyes, and squeaky high-pitched voice is very much in evidence here. |
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ataxia_ said: Your welcome. Young Justice is definitely good but could of been better if it wasn't cancelled prematurely. The last scene of the season finale of season 2 gave you an idea of how good a 3rd season would of been.UnculturedWhitey said: No love for Metalocalypse? :( lol I love Metalocalypse but it's not something I keep up with "Stop copies me!!" gets me every time DrGeroCreation said: DC Direct to DVD animated movies- SEVERELY UNDERRATED Most of these animated movies try to keep to the source material as close as possible just like what is usually done when making an anime based on a manga. Crème de la Crème of the DC animated movies Not a movie, but Young Justice is supposed to be very good though it's on my to watch list currently. Thanks for these. IntroverTurtle said: Wow that was the worst part to stop at. I couldn't imagine stopping there because I would of been too excited to see the Aang vs Ozai fight. Need to rewatch Avatar one of these days(I stopped like 3 episodes before the finale, when he got on the turtle). |
DrGeroCreationJan 21, 2014 5:12 PM
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| omg Metalocalypse. Why do i keep forgetting this shit? sheer awesomeness. |
| Even though I generally enjoy DC cartoons more than Marvel cartoons I have to admit that I really liked Wolverine and the Xmen and Avengers Earth's Mightiest heroes. I really wish these shows would get at least one more season each. What I really liked about Wolverine and the Xmen was Emma Frost, she really made that show interesting. At first she was deceitful and conniving but she turned out to be a real sweety in the end and I like her powers even though she isn't as powerful a psychic as Professor X or Jean. Other aspects of the show I liked were Angel's descent into evil and becoming Archangel and his strained relationship with his father, Cyclops going off the deep end because of the supposed death of Jean, Wolverine in the past and Professor X in the future working in tandem to defeat the sentinels and the romance between Night Crawler and Scarlet Witch. |
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| I don't watch most Western cartoons, but Samurai Jack will be airing on Toonami soon. I'll check it out. |
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7thFonon said: daintybiscuit said: regardless of where, or by who, boondocks was created, the narrative is purely american in its treatment of racial issues edit: i too love it the show - "can she run in high heels really, really fast?" (not the exact quote, lol) But then wouldn't this have to be the Western Story/Narrative/Cartoon/TV Show Thread? :P I know what you mean though. Most people will assimilate the art of animation with the actual Television Show itself (like anime = animation), but that's because the animation, the music, and the story of an anime are usually all made in the same country. So in that case, animation = TV show is fine assumption. Boondocks / Avatar are a different case in that the animation and story are from different countries altogether. So the credit will go to whoever worked on that specific aspect of the TV show (animation, music, story, etc). On the actual topic though... Some of the best Western animation is probably like Jungle Book, Lion King, and Mulan from Disney. Basically any of the Disney movies though, really.... I miss when Disney actually used to do 2D movies. :( uh ohs did i post in the wrong place? sorry! i guess since i've been was reading the comic written by Aaron McGruder for many years (it ran in the boston globe when i lived in new england) that i am more prone to look at it as an almost? purely western creation. it used to stun me - it stood out drastically from other comics run in american papers |
Dour said: Ohh, Gravity Falls is great, and if you haven't seen it I suggest at least trying it. Still waiting on the next season for that. One of, if not the only show saving Disney Channel right now. Avatar as mentioned numerous times is fantastic. One of the best shows regardless of genre I've seen period! Justice League & Unlimited were also very great and connected the DC animated universe in a fantastic way. Many great moments, both touching and funny too. Godzilla animated is one I don't hear a lot about, but it was very great for me with fantastic characters and well-thought out scenarios. This show blows the movie to smithereens and then some. Young Justice & Teen Titans: More great DC shows. Star Wars Clone Wars (Genndy Tartakovsky) is also fantastic. Adds so much life to the Star Wars universe and some of the best scenes in Western animation period! Megas XLR: Another great series for anyone who likes mecha or not. Hilarious with great characters. Spectacular Spiderman: one of the best Spiderman series I've watched. Unique artstyle and great storytelling. It actually added more life to the non-spiderman side of Peter's life. Samurai Jack: Hands down one of CN's best shows ever. Great atmosphere and quite funny at times. Symbionic Titan: Another one from Tartakovsky with great atmosphere. |
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7thFonon said: The thing is Boondocks does have western animation. The entire season 1 of Boondocks was animated by American animation companies http://boondockstv.wikia.com/wiki/Animation . Also the Nickelodeon animation studio was involved in the animation of Avatar TLA. There are anime that are partly animated by South Korean animation studios yet they are still considered anime (Japanese animation) likewise even though there were Korean and Japanese animation studios involved in the creation of Avatar and Boondocks they are considered Western Animation. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WesternAnimation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anime-influenced_animationdaintybiscuit said: regardless of where, or by who, boondocks was created, the narrative is purely american in its treatment of racial issues edit: i too love it the show - "can she run in high heels really, really fast?" (not the exact quote, lol) But then wouldn't this have to be the Western Story/Narrative/Cartoon/TV Show Thread? :P I know what you mean though. Most people will assimilate the art of animation with the actual Television Show itself (like anime = animation), but that's because the animation, the music, and the story of an anime are usually all made in the same country. So in that case, animation = TV show is fine assumption. Boondocks / Avatar are a different case in that the animation and story are from different countries altogether. So the credit will go to whoever worked on that specific aspect of the TV show (animation, music, story, etc). On the actual topic though... Some of the best Western animation is probably like Jungle Book, Lion King, and Mulan from Disney. Basically any of the Disney movies though, really.... I miss when Disney actually used to do 2D movies. :( On topic: I wish there was a sequel to Tintin (2011). I really loved that animated movie especially because of the CGI used to make the characters look really realistic http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/comicsalliance.com/files/2011/09/tintin-new-images-sept-19-7.jpg . I also loved the mystery and adventure in the story. I think there should be an entire series of Tintin movies considering Tintin is basically a detective so every movie you can have him solving a different mystery. |
DrGeroCreationJan 22, 2014 6:28 PM
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7thFonon said: These articles http://www.animevice.com/news/japanese-anime-industry-keeps-on-outsourcing/248/ http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2012/01/30/variety-comments-on-animes-outsourcing-trend show that Japanese animation companies outsourcing is not an extremely rare case as you claim. Do you have any evidence to back up your claim that Japan outsourcing to other countries is below 1%? If anime that have outsourced animation can still be considered anime(Japanese animation) then western cartoons that have outsourced animation should still be considered western animation. Anime sites such as Mal , AniDB , Animenewsnetwork etc. actually adhere to that, that's why on these sites Boondocks and Legend of Korra cannot be added and identified as anime even though they have Japanese animation.If you are interested in learning about the general scope of the international market for this kind of stuff.... On a side note, I had no idea that Season 1 of Boondocks was made in America. I'd actually be really interested in hearing as to what studio animated it. Warner Bros animation is definitely one of my fav American animation production companies considering I really like the DC direct to DVD animated movies and the Merrie Melodies and Loony Toons cartoons from the 40's. Besides Warner Bros there is Marvel Animation that mainly handles the animation of the Marvel direct to DVD animated movies and tv series two of which I have mentioned previously (Wolverine and the X men and Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes). |
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| I use to watch a lot of these shows stoned Moral Orel Robot Chicken Boondocks (best) good times |
| Balto is my favorite movie from my childhood. If you haven't seen it you should watch it. I still have it on VHS and am actually going to go watch it right now since I'm watching my cousins and they haven't seen it yet. |
Pretty accurate definition of anime (well, to me anyways...) |
dankickyou said: I'm not ignorant, I'm intellectually enlightened and am not another mindless sheep who agrees with the majority. I am an individual, a free-thinker. Someone who is capable of developing their own opinions instead of mindlessly following the masses.JD2411 said: I don't watch western animation because I'm not a man-child .....But you are. |
| I watched Justice League Unlimited yesterday. The Japs need to learn because there is a lot of bad anime out there. |
| I only liked Dinasaur and the Lion King from Disney. |
There's no such thing as a painless lesson. They just don't exist. Sacrifices are necessary. You can't gain anything without losing something first. Although if you can endure that pain and walk away from it, you'll find that you now have a heart strong enough to overcome any obstacle. Yeah, a heart made fullmetal. - Fullmetal Alchemist |
| I 'm looking forward to Star Wars Rebels considering I did enjoy Star Wars the Clone Wars. The most interesting thing to me about Rebels is that it will be set after Anakin becomes Darth Vader. Lol I have always liked Darth Vader but have never really been fond of Anakin even though they are the same guy. Also I hope to see Obi Wan and Yoda kick serious amount of ass considering they should be the most dominant Jedi in this time period. |
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| Anyone seen Rick and Morty yet? the first few episodes have been pretty funny. |
| "Let Justice Be Done!" My Theme Fight again, fight again for justice! |
RedRoseFring said: I've seen the first episode and it does seem really funny.Anyone seen Rick and Morty yet? the first few episodes have been pretty funny. |
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Aylaine said: I'm a fan of 90's Batman but I would have to say Batman Year 1 and Batman Dark Knight returns are on the same level or even better than the 90's Batman. 90's Batman is definitely better than Batman the Brave and the Bold (although I really liked Brave and the Bold) and the new CGI Batman cartoon.MajinSaga said: FreshPrinceofMAL said: Yeah the DC cartoon movies are really good. The Flashpoint paradox and Dark Knight Returns are my favorites. Anyone ever see The Ultimate Avenger movies? I thought that they had some great scenes and the animation was pretty damn good. Also loved the old Justice League cartoon. There were a few other shows I liked from that time like Gargoyles but I can't really remember them. Avatar TLA is definitely better than a lot of the anime I have watched. I still need to watch the second season of Korra but I've heard mixed reviews about it. I liked the first season though. Haven't watched Boondocks but I really want to start it because of all the hype I see about it. Haven't seen Thundercats but maybe I'll check it out. You need to watch "Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm" if you enjoyed those. Great movie. All of the 90's Batman stuff absolutely demolishes any of the newer adaptations they've made in quality, in my opinion. Teen Titans is probably my favorite 'western' animation. I've rewatched it more then a few animes that I enjoy too. While it had it's definite downsides, a few seasons were pretty damn awesome to behold. Also because I have a thing for quiet types, so go Raven. |
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ThousandEyes said: That's right. Max Fleischer rules. Agreed. Thanks for the video link as well. I must have seen "Small Fry" ages ago, but I don't quite remember it. It is a very good one; the concept is fun and creative, the music is good, and the backgrounds and animation are well executed. During the c. 1937-1941 period, Fleischer Studios produced many cartoons of excellent technical quality, such as the two-reel color Popeye cartoons. Unfortunately, declining profits and ugly disagreements between Max and Dave Fleischer ultimately doomed the studio. Paramount took it over, got rid of the Fleischers, and renamed it Famous Studios. |
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