Log Horizon
| "surrounded" "surrounded""surrounded""surrounded" No, surely they don't have to "live" with him, but that's one of the most known ways of "surrounding" the character with the Harem. A harem is also a group of 3 or more members of the opposite sex. And the "surrounding" phase must be constant. "usually amorously" "usually amorously""usually amorously""usually amorously" A love pentagon has nothing to do with being indecisive either. And a love pentagon isn't a harem. To be specific, this is one of the cases where the love pentagon isn't a harem, but a love pentagon can be a harem. |
ImmahnoobOct 14, 2013 9:44 AM
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gustave154 said: shiroe and akatsuki OTP there is NO HAREM OTP or not a Harem can still be there even if there is a pairing. |
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| Now saying that it has absolutely no similarity is completely wrong. While they are different in many ways (i will cover this) they do have the same idea. "Log into an mmorpg, can't log out" Now this also is a wide horizon of things that could happen as far as storylines go so it isn't exactly like SAO, but it is similar. There are a few things that make this series a lot different 1) its actually apparent they are in a MMORPG. A lot of times with SAO, you would almost forget that they are in a video game by itself, and not just some other planet. Log Horizon really focuses on bringing in a lot of aspects from a traditional mmorpg, into this anime. 2) Whole group of main characters. What makes Log horizon a lot different to me, is the group of main/important characters is a lot bigger. They are introducing a bunch of important roles in just the first episode, while SAO sort of stuck to 3-4 important characters throughout the series (Kirito, Asuna, Sister, Yui) |
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| SAO fags everywhere, go watch some .hack// and shit. |
| ^ Actually I do like .hack// series more. As for similarities between LH and SAO.... like some user has said, aside from the trapped inside the game thing, it almost totally different. And from what I see so far (eps. 2) LH stilll focused on the adventure itself instead of the escaping from game aspect or the romance side. Instead of with SAO, it remind me more of old adventure anime (Star Ocena EX, Arc the Lad and such) I haven't check out the LN itself though so I don't actually know how the stories will goes~ |
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SolviteSekai said: The Log Horizon novels were written before SAO came out as an anime. Log Horizon is better than SAO because the MC isnt crying about how scared he is. People who want every anime to be a giant masochistic shitstorm where the MCs are crying and afraid for their life should stop breathing. Pretty much sums up what I wanted to say with better emphasis. |
LevailRenn said: If you think that SAO and Log Horizon shouldn't be compared then you're wrong. Don't pretend like they have nothing in common because it just makes you look like an idiot. so should we start comparing Kaichou wa Maid-sama! with black lagoons robertas blood trails because they both have maids in it |
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HowTragic said: SolviteSekai said: The Log Horizon novels were written before SAO came out as an anime. Log Horizon is better than SAO because the MC isnt crying about how scared he is. People who want every anime to be a giant masochistic shitstorm where the MCs are crying and afraid for their life should stop breathing. Pretty much sums up what I wanted to say with better emphasis. SAO came out in 2002 as a webnovel. |
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| Irrelevant, I'm only trying to prove that "original" /=/ "good". Just because one came first that doesn't mean they're the best, taking an old story line and trying to revamp it is what we currently do, with different styles, people should try to understand that. But it seems nobody does, and even if LH and SAO have almost nothing in common except the premise, I can still see people comparing them for no reason. |
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| well noth sao and log horizon are diff anime but people prefer sao ,log horizon is not that bad either |
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| Just thought I'd say that I... Loved Sword Art Online because of the pressure of death throughout the game, experienced player playing the new game, and pretty much OP soloing everything. Love Log Horizon because very deep strategies and explanations throughout the game, experiencing new experiences on an already released game, and strong teamwork on taking down obstacles together. |
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| Sword Art Online and Log Horizon do indeed have some similarity between them, but they're different Anime. People thought Sword Art Online was a rip off of the .Hack Series because of the similarities between the two but its not. |
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| Speaking of similarities... I'm just waiting for Bethesda (Video Game Publisher) to start filing suits against LH for the world being named 'Elder Tales' ... which is just like what they did with Mojang. |
| SAO and Log Horizon has indeed some similarities but comparing them is stupid why??? because every damn anime has similarities with each other even in the slightest.. |
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| I would agree in regards that they have some similarities but they do have some major differences as well. Differences as far as I can tell? 1) Log Horizon is more about teamwork, SAO is more about the individual. While SAO created a BAMF lead character with essentially no weaknesses, Log Horizon is well aware of the players weaknesses and thus, there is more of a focus on class selection and teaming up to counter each players strengths and weaknesses. 2) Logical lead character. While Kirito's decisions were sometimes head-scratchers and he had sort of a "I don't give a shit" attitude toward other people in SAO, Shiroe is extremely thoughtful and tactful when it comes to his teammates. Shiroe seems more "shy" than cold-hearted, but even so, he is extremely tactful and plans his moves out far in advance. Unlike Kirito, Shiroe seems far more willing to cooperate with other players, although still unwilling to join a guild. 3) Elements of the game are different. While SAO had a defined goal of "reach the 100th floor" to free everyone from the game, Elder Tale has an unexplained goal that is driving the plot and the goal of the characters is to figure out what they need to do to leave the game. Another element is players don't "die" for real if they die in the game, but rather get teleported to a Cathedral. Knowing this in-mind, players are more willing to take risks. 4) Production. Moving away from comparing the worlds to just the anime in-general, I'd say Sword Art Online's production value is MUCH better. That's not really an insult at Log Horizon because I'm willing to bet Satelight doesn't have the budget A-1 has to work with. While SAO seems to have the better production, Log Horizon seems to have the better writing put toward it. That's not to say Log Horizon's writing is perfect by any means, but it seems a little better thought out than SAO was. |
| Log Horizon is a thousand better because the MC is a MOTHERFUCKING MAGE who actually thinks before he engages into battle. |
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| Watching 4 episodes and just about watching the 5th, I can confidently say that Log Horizon is sooooo much better than SAO. I like how they actually integrate MMO games. When you die, you just re-spawn, sub classes, classes, etc. Also their side-characters are so much better than SAO. |
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| I'm watching both Log Horizon and SAO at the same time. I knew almost nothing about SAO going into it other than its basic premise, same as LH, so I approached both series with objectivity. Log Horizon makes me think of an actual MMORPG, and it has the added mystery of why the players are there and the role of the People of the Land. SAO reminds me of Hunger Games, which I hated. I feel the story, characters and romance are on fanfiction level and none of it is compelling enough. Obviously both series have their similarities, but they also share those same similarities with a number of other stories and shows. Having characters who are stuck in a game or alternate reality is a trope that has been reused time and time again, Log Horizon "copied" SAO no more than SAO "copied" TRON. |
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| No one ever remenbers .hack D= That aside, Log Horizon is giving me the impression of being far supperior than SAO. If I were to describe SAO in one word after watching LH, it would be 'shallow'. |
| Lol, I totally skipped the first five pages filled with flame wars and shit, people didn't even know they were trolled. OT: Yeah it seems they have a lot of similarities but the important thing is how they present their premise. And to the looks of it, Log Horizon is actually doing it well. |
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| The only similarities SAO and LH has in common is that they share the premises of being stuck in an online game and that's where it stops. As a MMO gamer, I would have to lean more towards LH being far superior as it actually explains the games mechanics and makes the world of LH much more believable opposed to SAO's where you get a bird's eye view of things through a gary stu. Having read through both novels, the only edge SAO may have is that people die in the game whereas LH isn't as dark. Had they kept Kirito in SAO a lot longer and have him explain the world a lot better instead of 'how he got his harem', I may be inclined to like the series a lot better |
| Log Horizon is more about the actual aspect of the game while SAO is about survival. |
| ^ And that's completely irrelevant to anything. |
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| The only aspect both games have in common is the fact beeing locked into a VMMORPG. |
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HikariJake said: ftghb said: I have to keep in mind that most of the SAO fans arent old enough to have read the LNs and actually know that Log Horizon came out first. According to Wikipedia, the SAO LNs started April 10, 2009, while the Log Horizon LNs started April 13, 2010, so... unless Wikipedia is incorrect, SAO came out first. SAO was written as a webnovel that was released in 2002, the same year the .Hack// games were released (Just a few months later). In 2009 Sword Art Online was then published. |
KiteTheAzureNov 29, 2013 3:26 PM
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| Look guys there are plenty of series (manga/manhwa or novels alike) using an online VRMMO as a premise. Koreans have plenty of these series - Yureka, The Legendary Moonlight Sculptor, Ark among countless others. This concept has existed as early as MMOs and the concept of VR were conceived. We can argue all we want about which came first but at the end of the day it all boils down to what type of story one likes. I happen to like SAO, .hack and LH since they all bring different elements to the table. It doesn't matter what food it is. Something delicious will always be delicious. But people have their own tastes. And so they pick favorites and dislikes. Don't you think the variety is what makes these types of stories interesting? |
swordstriker21Nov 29, 2013 8:49 PM
Immahnoob said: ^ And that's completely irrelevant to anything. Then that just basically makes everything irrelevant. I guess the problem is solved. >> |
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| SAO early on felt episodic with Kirito encountering people and specifically showing the consequences of being trapped. Later on it became about romance, clearing the game and even later on getting your girlfriend back. The themes are mostly the psychological burden of being trapped on people and the focus are the characters themselves. LH generally showed the consequences of being trapped without the hows and whys. Early episodes were about knowing the mechanics of the world, Shiroe getting his shit together, establishing recurrent characters, scamming people out of their money and giving purpose to a lethargic population. The theme of trying to live with and by the laws of their new world is also ever present with the focus more on learning about the world. From that, the only similarity I see is the premise and the shown consequence of being trapped. Hell, why not just compare SNK, SAO and Log Horizon. They both have people who are struggling and trapped, one with walls, two in the database and even Log Horizon's 'it's not a game anymore' message is anything but subtle. |
minescopeJan 11, 2014 6:38 PM
Cdmas said: deenszx said: Let see between LH and SAO suit for: SAO- Suit for those who want some love and romannce only . And for those who likes harem building animes, and do not forget the famous part with tentacles... I love that part... Aaah such biting sarcasm... I agree though. I'm a fan of the SAO novels but even us agree Kawahara f*cked up on that one... I still like the books though. And, again, let me clarify that the LH anime isn't all that dark cuz NHK made it that way. The network is for kids so a fair bit of censoring is needed. The LH novels, however, don't shy away from "dark" themes. Heck they even tackle sex, rape and prostitution. I severely doubt it will be included in the anime though. |
swordstriker21Jan 11, 2014 7:32 PM
bagheera said: swordstriker21 said: And, again, let me clarify that the LH anime isn't all that dark cuz NHK made it that way. The network is for kids so a fair bit of censoring is needed. The LH novels, however, don't shy away from "dark" themes. Heck they even tackle sex, rape and prostitution. I severely doubt it will be included in the anime though. "shy away" is *exactly* how I would describe how the novels approach the darker aspects of things. Its not necessarily a bad thing either... sometimes its better just to have shadowy alleyways than it is to show what lurks in those alleys. most anime that i've watched that 'show the dark side of things', fail horribly... and end up lacking the proper depth to their stories and characters. Have you read the latest arc then? The Minami arc I mean. |
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