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Which did you felt was overall better, and why?
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The selling point for me is cool animated action scenes, and if this show keeps adding more of that then I'll always prefer the anime over the manga.
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Erhm.... can't you prefer both? o-o
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Anime thanks to the nice added filler action scenes and the amazing OST to go with it, especially the part when Eren transforms
Sep 23, 2013 5:18 PM
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Anime episode added more, for good and bad. Namely, fun extra action sequences added in, while more important scenes were altered in a... not that pleasing way for me.

I liked Eren's uppercut of justice from the manga much more than the punch in the anime. It's more legit and awesome IMO.

Don't have to tell you this, but shouldn't Annie have used her supreme head movement to dodge the blow? I pray Studio Wit adjusts this scene for the BD.
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Ugh. The problem that happens when an anime changes scenes from its source material is that it generally isn't as effective in its execution or it just gives off a different atmosphere that detracts from why the certain scene was made that way in the source material itself.

In exchange for Eren looking like a pussy, this episode got a lot of characters more involved with the situation and changes the dynamics of the episode and shows the effort of the Recon Corps in fighting Titans. This kind of development to side characters and an organisation is way greater and will never be outweighed by Eren's apparently 'worse' developement. It shows how it's not just the main characters that do all the work and gives worth to many other characters instead.

As for the other changes, I don't really care about them.
"The world is a cruel place." "It sure is." So just because that exchange wasn't as early, this episode is worse than the manga? Haha.
And with that uppercut in the manga - that was extremely cool and felt very strong, but did the change in the anime make it worse as well? Not at all, because the anime felt the same. I mean, it's not like it changed anything in the plotline, the development or anything else, so the change was largely irrelevant and just because some people hated it, it doesn't mean it's bad at all.
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HalfMetalJacket said:
Don't have to tell you this, but shouldn't Annie have used her supreme head movement to dodge the blow? I pray Studio Wit adjusts this scene for the BD.


Why would they? It's not like the scene has major errors that's need for a touch up, compared to *cough*Episode 13*cough*
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Action wise, Anime.

Scenario wise, Manga.

I just don't like the inconsistency in how they handle the characters in the anime, that's all. Action scenes are cool but I like this anime because it was supposed to have both. Not lately. But overall great animation.
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Narukami07 said:
HalfMetalJacket said:
Don't have to tell you this, but shouldn't Annie have used her supreme head movement to dodge the blow? I pray Studio Wit adjusts this scene for the BD.


Why would they? It's not like the scene has major errors that's need for a touch up, compared to *cough*Episode 13*cough*

Actually, pause the scene yourself. Even if they don't feel they need alter the scene to be more consistent, at least clean those pictures up.

Obviously they will though, seeing as its the type of thing that gets fixed for BD releases.
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Preferred the chapter if I'm honest, probably because I read it first and so that's how it happened to me.
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HalfMetalJacket said:
Narukami07 said:
HalfMetalJacket said:
Don't have to tell you this, but shouldn't Annie have used her supreme head movement to dodge the blow? I pray Studio Wit adjusts this scene for the BD.


Why would they? It's not like the scene has major errors that's need for a touch up, compared to *cough*Episode 13*cough*

Actually, pause the scene yourself. Even if they don't feel they need alter the scene to be more consistent, at least clean those pictures up.

Obviously they will though, seeing as its the type of thing that gets fixed for BD releases.


Oh yeah, i wonder if the stills got fixed in the BD release from previous episodes.
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Preferred the chapter if I'm honest, probably because I read it first and so that's how it happened to me.

I think the same sentiment would be shared among manga readers. Probably the same would apply to Annie's laugh (except that some guys began to accept it).
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HalfMetalJacket said:
MikasaxEren said:
Preferred the chapter if I'm honest, probably because I read it first and so that's how it happened to me.

I think the same sentiment would be shared among manga readers. Probably the same would apply to Annie's laugh (except that some guys began to accept it).
Annie's laugh wasn't so bad because it wasn't such a memorable scene to me compared to Eren's epic uppercut/ the world is cruel moment.
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First off, as I understand it Isayama is heavily involved if not at the helm of the anime development so I do agree that the anime is canon, Word of God. That said I think Eren is rather out of character in the anime. I can tolerate a slight hesitation before fighting Annie but that's about it. Time and again it was shown that Eren is the character with most determination and motivation to kill Titan.

Annie is also slightly OOC. The smart and decisive Annie would have fled the scene immediately instead of messing around with the Scout Legion for half an hour. Not being able to counter a telegraphed punch from Titan Eren is just ludicrous.
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First off, as I understand it Isayama is heavily involved if not at the helm of the anime development so I do agree that the anime is canon, Word of God. That said I think Eren is rather out of character in the anime. I can tolerate a slight hesitation before fighting Annie but that's about it. Time and again it was shown that Eren is the character with most determination and motivation to kill Titan.

Annie is also slightly OOC. The smart and decisive Annie would have fled the scene immediately instead of messing around with the Scout Legion for half an hour. Not being able to counter a telegraphed punch from Titan Eren is just ludicrous.


Accept this time he's killing someone whom he's known for three years during training, and there's a scene in which the Anime didn't show that emphasized that. I just don't see how it's out of character for Eren when he was practically unconscious for the second half of the episode, he wasn't in the state of mind to immediately intercept Annie until the end.

She didn't know where Eren was after the boulders toppled him, and added with the fact that it's her objective to capture him it's not as if fleeing the scene while finding Eren amongst the troops was going to be easy. She was surprised by the punch at the last minute, it was pretty obvious that Annie didn't know of Eren's direction by the time she turned her head towards him.
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varingian said:
First off, as I understand it Isayama is heavily involved if not at the helm of the anime development so I do agree that the anime is canon, Word of God. That said I think Eren is rather out of character in the anime. I can tolerate a slight hesitation before fighting Annie but that's about it. Time and again it was shown that Eren is the character with most determination and motivation to kill Titan.

Annie is also slightly OOC. The smart and decisive Annie would have fled the scene immediately instead of messing around with the Scout Legion for half an hour. Not being able to counter a telegraphed punch from Titan Eren is just ludicrous.

I don't everyone saying Eren became pussy. You all have to understand that a close person to him, a mentor if you will has turned out to be a traitor. Oh and he was under a heap of rubble, semi conscious.

This can be remedied with a flashback of their time together.

As for Annie somehow not dodging Eren's punch, that needs some fixing up.
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Sep 23, 2013 8:26 PM
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Manga is better because they made the punch scene nonsensical.
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I like the manga better with Eren's "the world is cruel" moment before he transformed.
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Manga is better because they made the punch scene nonsensical.


^As i said, she didn't even know of Eren's direction by the time he ran up to her.

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The manga has better music...... and uh voice acting......
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I think you meant Anime.... :P
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The manga has better music


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No doubt, it is the anime coz of the animation + the music :3 Though, i was surprised that they changed the scene when eren said the world sure is cruel and transformed :U But i understand why the anime did it this way, it goes and show that not everything has to be relied on the protagonist and how everyone is making an effort to change.
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Eh, the manga had much better animation. Anime is good though, I'll give it that...
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The manga has better music...... and uh voice acting......


:)

I'll definitely stick with the manga on this one. The 3DM action scenes were great but I think the anime went overboard with Eren being trapped, a piece of wood piercing through his chest, we get the cliched rage face...

I like the simplicity in the manga, and how Eren comes to terms about Annie and understands he has no other choice but to fight, just by seeing Mikasa and Armin's resolve.
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Manga of course
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^Hmm, i sorta disagree. I thought the way the manga handled Eren's resolve was far too simplistic and not handled as well as the Anime, plus i preferred seeing the other characters get the spotlight instead of Eren just straight up getting to the fight with Annie quickly. But it's fine if you liked the way the Manga did it.

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Eh, the manga had much better animation. Anime is good though, I'll give it that...


Not really, no. The manga is only in page format, wile the Anime has animation which didn't fail to disappoint in the action scenes. therefor the Anime is objectively superior than the Manga in that regard.
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Manga was better, Eren was a lot cooler and not Shinji. But the transformation was beautiful.
So, What do you think is on the other side?
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Eh, the manga had much better animation. Anime is good though, I'll give it that...


Not really, no. The manga is only in page format, wile the Anime has animation which didn't fail to disappoint in the action scenes. therefor the Anime is objectively superior than the Manga in that regard.

I think we are all entitled to our own opinions. And my opinion is that the manga is objectively better animated than the anime, regardless of format.
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HalfMetalJacket said:
Eh, the manga had much better animation. Anime is good though, I'll give it that...


Well, I agree with you. The manga had a very good animation style, if you would.

See, while the extra scenes in this episode were interesting enough, some of the changes didn't pass too well with me. Eren getting stomped, him being so angry, Annie getting socked...
Manga CAN have better animation, and it does imo although the anime did have some awesome moments, I have always preferred the manga for this series from the beginning.
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HalfMetalJacket said:
Eh, the manga had much better animation. Anime is good though, I'll give it that...


Well, I agree with you. The manga had a very good animation style, if you would.

See, while the extra scenes in this episode were interesting enough, some of the changes didn't pass too well with me. Eren getting stomped, him being so angry, Annie getting socked...
Manga CAN have better animation, and it does imo although the anime did have some awesome moments, I have always preferred the manga for this series from the beginning.

Yeah, I totally agree with manga having better animation than the anime. Though I wasn't being very serious to start with...
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Loved the anime that's for sure!!
For me manga I read to fast
I like seeing it in action!!!
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Manga was way better. In the anime Eren wasn't reliable, and that's not acceptable in a war.

It goes against what he did to save Mikasa back when they were 9(?) years old. You either kill or get killed, there's no time to hesitate.
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Unchou said:
Manga was better, Eren was a lot cooler and not Shinji.


That makes no sense, how was he pulling a Shinji? Is showing weakness equal to being another Shinji clone now?

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I think we are all entitled to our own opinions. And my opinion is that the manga is objectively better animated than the anime, regardless of format.


Yes, you definitely are. However if we're arguing with objectives which = facts, then in terms of animation alone the Anime is better than the Manga's chapter, which has no animation at all. That point is not arguable, and the majority of the poll votes and comments have praised the episode's fluid animated action scenes. However if this wasn't about objectives then it's a different story, because you can't pair objectivity and an opinion in the same sentence.

Pardon me if i'm being too blunt again, i usually have that tendency when it comes to disagreements.

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Manga was way better. In the anime Eren wasn't reliable, and that's not acceptable in a war.

It goes against what he did to save Mikasa back when they were 9(?) years old. You either kill or get killed, there's no time to hesitate.


Hm? how was he unreliable when he barley unconcious from getting topped by bricks? You can't shake off things like that and still blitz yourself against a giant being easily, it would be far too unrealistic.

It doesn't. This is Annie we're talking about, the same person who trained Eren for 3 years, it's blatantly obvious that he views her as more of a companion than a creature he wants to slay. What your saying would essentially mean that Manga Eren isn't any better despite resolving his situation quicker in the Manga, since he had panels of himself hesitating over taking Annie down as well, so wouldn't that contradict your preference for Manga Eren then?
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I liked the manga format much better. It portrays Eren as much more stronger and willing to do what is needed to win. It also draws a better parallel with Episode 6 where Eren convinces Mikasa to fight while, here it is Mikasa doing the same for Eren, each urging the other in turn to throw away their humanity/doubts in order to survive. It just cements their relationship much better and provides more emotional depth compared to the anime.

The anime in contrasts focus's much more on Armin's role in convincing Eren which, while good, does not strike as being as deep. The anime also drags it out longer and shows Eren as having more doubts and letting his comrades down (for a while, re Jean)and weaker which seems OOC. Mikasa should have been able to motivate him and the uppercut was much better in the manga. In fact, it speaks to me to the rage that Eren felt, that he was able to breach the tunnel by transforming, while the point of leading Annie into the tunnel was to prevent that (though they mention leading her to lower levels).

An issue with the anime as well was how Eren was too near the surface imo, as he should be buried under rubble much deeper since he started on the floor of the tunnel and not near the top. House> Ground > Tunnel roof > tunnel itself > Eren > floor of tunnel. It felt like the anime sacrificed keeping characters in role and storytelling/emotional depth just to get in the extra actions scenes and side character action. While I get a shouen anime should focus on action, I dislike it when they sacrifice plot for actions. I chose Snk based on a heavy emphasis on plot rather than just action.

I also preferred the animation and voice acting in the manga, must be my imagination at work XD. Much cooler and epic :)
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I also preferred the animation and voice acting int he manga, must be my imagination at work XD. Much cooler and epic :)


Huh???
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stickmansam said:

I also preferred the animation and voice acting in the manga, must be my imagination at work XD. Much cooler and epic :)


Huh???


When I read manga, its like reading a book except with visual guidelines instead of visual descriptions and I can see it animated/voiced in my head :P
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It felt like the anime sacrificed keeping characters in role and storytelling/emotional depth just to get in the extra actions scenes and side character action. While I get a shouen anime should focus on action, I dislike it when they sacrifice plot for actions. I chose Snk based on a heavy emphasis on plot rather than just action.

I also preferred the animation and voice acting in the manga, must be my imagination at work XD. Much cooler and epic :)

That's exactly how I feel about this episode. Though I don't mind extra action scenes and side character actions, they are always most welcome.

Putting aside how this scene was in the manga and how awesome the animation was, this episode itself somehow .. off. Not saying it was bad but since it's the second last episode, and how thrilling the preceding episode left us with, it just didn't deliver.

The FT so far had been shown to be very formidable, extremely smart and intimidating, but in this episode she looked like a girl being tossed around and being bullied by everyone in school? Then she escaped (probably crying) from all that to get punched on the face while she was 'enjoying' her stroll in the garden.
Where had the FT we knew gone? After her breakdown last episode, I was expecting she would have been more dangerous and desperately fighting back.

That's how I saw this episode and what impression it had left on me after watching it anyway. It somehow didn't belong.. I felt sorry for the FT here.

Then again, just an opinion.
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I would really like the new episode if they used Titan Eren's uppercut as a cliifhanger. T.^
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yeah the scene with the punch in the anime is kinda retarded the way eren run to her and her don't even notice...

annie in manga want to kidnap eren but in anime just hanging around looking for a cafeteria to drink something
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^I didn't think it was that "retarded" at all.

I feel as if i'm in the minority on this board that actually liked this episode more than the Manga, despite the poll votes from the majority proving other wise.

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The FT so far had been shown to be very formidable, extremely smart and intimidating, but in this episode she looked like a girl being tossed around and being bullied by everyone in school? Then she escaped (probably crying) from all that to get punched on the face while she was 'enjoying' her stroll in the garden.
Where had the FT we knew gone? After her breakdown last episode, I was expecting she would have been more dangerous and desperately fighting back.

That's how I saw this episode and what impression it had left on me after watching it anyway. It somehow didn't belong.. I felt sorry for the FT here.

Then again, just an opinion.


I don't see how it was like that at all, honestly. The episode made it blatantly obvious with how she attacked the troops, Mikasa, Eren & Armin (well mostly in the tunnel), etc. She never gave me an impression of a school girl getting beaten down, so i'll have to disagree with you heavily here, i thought that it improved from the source material instead of sacrificing it like others here seem to believe. But ok i guess.....

I thought the episode served this purpose quit well after Episode 23, and what's what's in store for Episode 25 it could probably connect with it. But overall, FT still seemed pretty threatening to me here.

Then again, opinions are opinions.
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^I didn't think it was that "retarded" at all.

I feel as if i'm in the minority on this board that actually liked this episode more than the Manga, despite the poll votes from the majority proving other wise.



I voted 4/5 for the poll though I did not like the episode as much the manga. I like the manga more. I would have given a 7/10 for the anime and 10/10 for the manga. So it is possible to like the manga more than the anime even though one may give a good score for the anime :)



I don't see how it was like that at all, honestly. The episode made it blatantly obvious with how she attacked the troops, Mikasa, Eren & Armin (well mostly in the tunnel), etc. She never gave me an impression of a school girl getting beaten down, so i'll have to disagree with you heavily here, i thought that it improved from the source material instead of sacrificing it like others here seem to believe. But ok i guess.....

I thought the episode served this purpose quit well after Episode 23, and what's what's in store for Episode 25 it could probably connect with it. But overall, FT still seemed pretty threatening to me here.

Then again, opinions are opinions.


I would say that she didn't act like being bullied but more like a soldier who has no idea what is going on. She didn't plan the encounter entirely and was caught a bit off guard by the traps and all. I got the impression that she was just reacting to her environment and what the legion was doing rather than in the forest where it was mainly the scouting legion reacting to her. Basically she lost the initiative.

My opinion was that the manga had better character/erenxmikasa development and plot growth while the anime stressed action and side characters.
I would have preferred a stricter adherence to the manga and more focus on erenxmikasa rather than erenxarmin as I think erenxmikasa is more important and lovely :)

I have expressed my opinions more fully here
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=667019&show=20#msg25300657

Again it is all opinion ofc. I would prefer the manga being canon over the anime though :)
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I, personally, much preferred the anime version, as good as the manga was. On one hand, I felt Jean was completely forgotten at that point in the manga but seeing him in action, hearing out who the female titan was and being well aware of the plan and taking part in the fight made more sense to me and added a nice extra element. Nile's reaction to Erwin's plan also made a lot more sense to me.

There's also Mikasa fighting against Annie which is a great display of her skills and strength, which shows you that her holding on her own against Annie back in the forest wasn't a fluke or only because Annie was tired, even with Annie at 100% she's still one of the few capable of standing up to the biggest threat to humanity yet and not die.
Also, Annie getting captured again. I like it simply because of the fact it shows you how crazy prepared Erwin was. It honestly makes more sense to me, I think he could have probably figured after seeing Eren's reaction that he might be conflicted and with the information he needs a clear goal in mind, he'd know every possibility counts.
And finally, Eren's angst and how he got over it. I felt it was way too easy in the manga how it went, plus I don't think it would have translated into the anime as well. Let's see it this way: Has there been any other time where Eren has forced himself to remember horrible things to bring his anger into play? Most of the time it's been involuntary, but this time he's facing his friend and well, basically mentor, and the only way to fight her is by changing his objective: Rather than "Fight Annie", he's thinking now just "Fight".
My only problem is how the punch was handled, but that feels like a minor issue. I feel that it would have made more sense if the sequences had been moved around (Eren transforms, everyone's chasing after Annie and Mikasa gets knocked down, we see Eren running, Annie stops right after it, turns around and PUNCH), but hey, it sets up for a fantastic finale either way, it just doesn't work as well as it could.
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^I agree with most of what you said wholeheartedly.

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^I didn't think it was that "retarded" at all.

I feel as if i'm in the minority on this board that actually liked this episode more than the Manga, despite the poll votes from the majority proving other wise.



I voted 4/5 for the poll though I did not like the episode as much the manga. I like the manga more. I would have given a 7/10 for the anime and 10/10 for the manga. So it is possible to like the manga more than the anime even though one may give a good score for the anime :)



I don't see how it was like that at all, honestly. The episode made it blatantly obvious with how she attacked the troops, Mikasa, Eren & Armin (well mostly in the tunnel), etc. She never gave me an impression of a school girl getting beaten down, so i'll have to disagree with you heavily here, i thought that it improved from the source material instead of sacrificing it like others here seem to believe. But ok i guess.....

I thought the episode served this purpose quit well after Episode 23, and what's what's in store for Episode 25 it could probably connect with it. But overall, FT still seemed pretty threatening to me here.

Then again, opinions are opinions.


I would say that she didn't act like being bullied but more like a soldier who has no idea what is going on. She didn't plan the encounter entirely and was caught a bit off guard by the traps and all. I got the impression that she was just reacting to her environment and what the legion was doing rather than in the forest where it was mainly the scouting legion reacting to her. Basically she lost the initiative.

My opinion was that the manga had better character/erenxmikasa development and plot growth while the anime stressed action and side characters.
I would have preferred a stricter adherence to the manga and more focus on erenxmikasa rather than erenxarmin as I think erenxmikasa is more important and lovely :)

I have expressed my opinions more fully here
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=667019&show=20#msg25300657

Again it is all opinion ofc. I would prefer the manga being canon over the anime though :)


......Huh, i like the way you expressed yours in this post, neat. I guess i can understand those who were more into the Manga lol.
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To be more serious, keep the filler parts of the episode by all means! They were fun additions. It's the one altered scene that we manga readers are having issues with. Such a memorable scene in the manga made into something less... legit.

You know what I'm talking about. The thing most of us seem to have gripes with.
Deconstruction ≠ Darker & Edgier
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To be more serious, keep the filler parts of the episode by all means! They were fun additions. It's the one altered scene that we manga readers are having issues with. Such a memorable scene in the manga made into something less... legit.

You know what I'm talking about. The thing most of us seem to have gripes with.


UPPPACUTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Xinception said:
HalfMetalJacket said:
To be more serious, keep the filler parts of the episode by all means! They were fun additions. It's the one altered scene that we manga readers are having issues with. Such a memorable scene in the manga made into something less... legit.

You know what I'm talking about. The thing most of us seem to have gripes with.


UPPPACUTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


^that

A better anime adaption would have placed the scenes of destruction from the past as flashback right when Mikasa told Eren "the world is cruel place". Then massive uppercut. Then the fight between Eren and Annie and
End ep 24.
Annie then turns to escape over the wall but Erwin predicted that and set a trap enroute, using Armin to sort of guide Annie in or just using two squads to guide Annie into the trap. She escapes and tries to
and end the season there.
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stickmansam said:
Xinception said:
HalfMetalJacket said:
To be more serious, keep the filler parts of the episode by all means! They were fun additions. It's the one altered scene that we manga readers are having issues with. Such a memorable scene in the manga made into something less... legit.

You know what I'm talking about. The thing most of us seem to have gripes with.


UPPPACUTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


^that

A better anime adaption would have placed the scenes of destruction from the past as flashback right when Mikasa told Eren "the world is cruel place". Then massive uppercut. Then the fight between Eren and Annie and
.
Annie is about to grab Eren but Armin does his thing and Annie chases them to fall into the trap. She escapes and tries to
and end there.


Well, actually
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She could totally destroy the Trap and speed away too quickly


It would be a further away throw since Eren would be farther away since fight takes place in slightly different place and Mikasa was slightly injured and was checking on Eren :D
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