| You can't prove the correctness of the definition of anime because people can decide on a whim which ones are right and which ones aren't based on common usage. It's like me insisting "GAY MEANS HAPPY" when I know people will laugh at me for trying to use the word as such. What I don't understand is why this gets on your nerves. |
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gamer2710 said: You can't prove the correctness of the definition of anime because people can decide on a whim which ones are right and which ones aren't based on common usage. It's like me insisting "GAY MEANS HAPPY" when I know people will laugh at me for trying to use the word as such. What I don't understand is why this gets on your nerves. It gets on my nerves because people are ignoring the fact that anime and cartoons are not separate and saying " anime is not cartoons" when that statement has NO scientific basis in actual fact whatsoever. It is pseudoscience. There is an overwhelming amount of factual evidence that says otherwise |
| White flowers and normal dresses didnt suit you in this life and they don't now. You belong in red, the color of passion, the color of tiger lilies. |
| Cartoons are a type of animation. Anime is a type of animation Cartoons and anime = animation but they have different art styles. It all comes down to how they are presented. |
an egomaniac and a fool |
| After seeing this discussion again and again (and again), I'm starting to wonder why people even care. Just watch your cartoonimu and shut up. |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
LevailRenn said: Cartoons are a type of animation. Anime is a type of animation Cartoons and anime = animation but they have different art styles. It all comes down to how they are presented. Art styles only? Anime is taken more serious and have more diversity , better quality of the image . I hope you see where I'm pointing..... |
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| Well cartoon has the pretext of appealing to younger audiences and being silly. While there are many gruesome mature animes out there. Honestly although they are technically the same thing the styles are just too vastly different. So in my opinion they are separate. Just because they both involve animation doesn't mean they are grouped up as the same thing. |
ibingealldayz said: Well cartoon has the pretext of appealing to younger audiences and being silly. While there are many gruesome mature animes out there. Honestly although they are technically the same thing the styles are just too vastly different. So in my opinion they are separate. Just because they both involve animation doesn't mean they are grouped up as the same thing. That does not mean anime is not cartoons. In your deluded reality, they may be separate, but here in actuality they are not. There is even another thread called " Anime/cartoons are not separate" I suggest you read it. Highly. Anime is a type of cartooning. This is a fact and not up for debate. It's ain any animation book about anime and any book about the types of cartooning |
| White flowers and normal dresses didnt suit you in this life and they don't now. You belong in red, the color of passion, the color of tiger lilies. |
| I agree, in the broadest sense of the word. In fact, they call western cartoons anime in Japan so I don't really see the big deal trying to distinguish between the words. |
HamtaroYesMyHam said: There goes the ridiculous theory anime is not cartoons again. Anime ARE cartoons. It's a scientific proven fact. And yes they ARE the same. Are you seriously fking arguing a fact??? It's been proven anime ARE cartoons. Why is this so fuking hard for people to accept? ANY credible animation company ( such as FUNimation) will agree. If it has been scientifically proven then please give me a source, study, experiment... And btw, you said before "In Japan they call all cartoons anime". Therefore you are implying its all based on the perspective of whether you would generally refer to animated tv shows as either anime or cartoons. So how can you be right and claim its a scientifically proven fact when you are admitting yourself it is simply based on what term you use to generally refer to animated drawings? I'll write what I said in my previous post a few pages back again. Just because out of convenience you refer to X (animation) as Y (cartoons). It doesn't make X equal to Y. |
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| Technically, I suppose I can agree with you, OP, as both are used to refer to animated films and series. However, the term "anime" is used outside of Japan specifically to indicate animation that is produced in Japan. It may simply mean "animation" in Japan, but it is used by us to indicate its origin, as well. If I told you, "I've been watching an anime series that I think you'd like," you would know immediately that I am referring to an animated series produced in Japan and not, for example, an American animated series. If you would prefer to use the terms interchangeably, sure, you could do that - but it would probably result in confusion as people do think of Japanese animation as "anime," and other animation as simply "animation" or "cartoons." |
HamtaroYesMyHam said: This is a fact and not up for debate. If it's not up for debate then you shouldn't have made this thread. |
an egomaniac and a fool |
LevailRenn said: HamtaroYesMyHam said: This is a fact and not up for debate. If it's not up for debate then you shouldn't have made this thread. It's not up for debate its just otakus continue to make themselves sound uneducated by making the false claim anime isn't cartoons. Here is a Facebook page that agrees. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Anime-is-Cartoons/395110177252788 Note: I did not give you an opinion, I gave a page someone made on Facebook that uses logic, fact and common knowledge to prove a point |
| White flowers and normal dresses didnt suit you in this life and they don't now. You belong in red, the color of passion, the color of tiger lilies. |
HamtaroYesMyHam said: "If you have mush for brains you probably haven't noticed that this is a JOKE page designed to make fun of and shame those godawful, pathetic and weaboo infested pages that attempt to disgrace cartoons in favour of anime."LevailRenn said: HamtaroYesMyHam said: This is a fact and not up for debate. If it's not up for debate then you shouldn't have made this thread. It's not up for debate its just otakus continue to make themselves sound uneducated by making the false claim anime isn't cartoons. Here is a Facebook page that agrees. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Anime-is-Cartoons/395110177252788 Note: I did not give you an opinion, I gave a page someone made on Facebook that uses logic, fact and common knowledge to prove a point Great sources you have there. What else do you have? Maybe a youtube video? |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
HamtaroYesMyHam said: LevailRenn said: HamtaroYesMyHam said: This is a fact and not up for debate. If it's not up for debate then you shouldn't have made this thread. It's not up for debate its just otakus continue to make themselves sound uneducated by making the false claim anime isn't cartoons. Here is a Facebook page that agrees. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Anime-is-Cartoons/395110177252788 Note: I did not give you an opinion, I gave a page someone made on Facebook that uses logic, fact and common knowledge to prove a point You're right, sharing such a highly regarded facebook page with all its 65 likes has won the debate for you. No need for any further discussion. Yours and 64 other's opinion is absolute. |
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LoneWolfRain said: I think it 's called "shaming those godawful, pathetic and weaboo infested pages".Guys, he's trolling. |
Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
LoneWolfRain said: Guys, he's trolling. It became obvious after he provided that link.[/quote} HE???? Are you fking kidding me????? Here is a better link. http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/anime-manga-comics/flawed-arguements-for-anime-not-being-cartoons/t.11411816 And yes the show about Ciel the contracted midget and his annoying as hell sister Elizabeth IS. A cartoon. This is also a fact and not up for debate, and its about to become my new signature |
| White flowers and normal dresses didnt suit you in this life and they don't now. You belong in red, the color of passion, the color of tiger lilies. |
AlexTheRiot said: It's not a debate its a factHamtaroYesMyHam said: LevailRenn said: HamtaroYesMyHam said: This is a fact and not up for debate. If it's not up for debate then you shouldn't have made this thread. It's not up for debate its just otakus continue to make themselves sound uneducated by making the false claim anime isn't cartoons. Here is a Facebook page that agrees. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Anime-is-Cartoons/395110177252788 Note: I did not give you an opinion, I gave a page someone made on Facebook that uses logic, fact and common knowledge to prove a point You're right, sharing such a highly regarded facebook page with all its 65 likes has won the debate for you. No need for any further discussion. Yours and 64 other's opinion is absolute. |
| White flowers and normal dresses didnt suit you in this life and they don't now. You belong in red, the color of passion, the color of tiger lilies. |
HamtaroYesMyHam said: A splendid counterpoint.It's not a debate its a fact |
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Makomonogatari said: lupadim said: The best part is that you somehow actually exist.And the best part is that no one can prove it wrong |
Battlechili1 said: HamtaroYesMyHam said: TallonKarrde23 said: A truck is not a car, and a car is not a truck. Both use essentially the same setup, both use the same technology to work mostly, both serve the same purpose (disregarding a focus on speed vs towing and things like that), and both are vehicles - but they are not the same thing. "Japanese anime" (truck) and "cartoons" (car) are not the same. They are just both forms of 2D Animation (motor vehicle). There goes the ridiculous theory anime is not cartoons again. Anime ARE cartoons. It's a scientific proven fact. And yes they ARE the same. Are you seriously fking arguing a fact??? It's been proven anime ARE cartoons. Why is this so fuking hard for people to accept? ANY credible animation company ( such as FUNimation) will agree. Thanks for sounding uneducated to the whole MyAnimeList community. And yes, that show about Ciel the midget and Lizzy the annoying-ass IS a cartoon. Whether you like that or not. TallonKarrde23 you are so brainwashed and uneducated its not even funny. It's just pissing me off how you continue to ignore facts when everyone else on this entire thread accepts. Maybe you should stop reading otaku propaganda and start reading fact and factual evidence like Forgetfulness's post and Rinshansan's post. They seem to not be ignorant on this subject. Why do you care so much about this silly topic? I care because people are ignoring the facts and the fact that the show about Ciel the midget and Elizabeth Ethical Cordelia whoever and Cebby the vampire hell servant and the bigass white werewolf is a cartoon is one of the MANY they're refusing to accept. Not that this is the main concern of the thread, its just pissing me off. I know I'll make a separate thread about it. |
| White flowers and normal dresses didnt suit you in this life and they don't now. You belong in red, the color of passion, the color of tiger lilies. |
HamtaroYesMyHam said: pls don'tI know I'll make a separate thread about it. |
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AlexTheRiot said: Too bad, Im starting it nowHamtaroYesMyHam said: pls don'tI know I'll make a separate thread about it. What's gonna happen if I don't? Will the world blow up? |
| White flowers and normal dresses didnt suit you in this life and they don't now. You belong in red, the color of passion, the color of tiger lilies. |
| I'm locking this before it turns into another flame war. Also, it's not a discussion, something like this is more suited for your blog: http://myanimelist.net/myblog.php Locked. |
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