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Aug 24, 2013 8:04 AM
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the phantom troupe arc really made me wonder about it
Aug 24, 2013 8:19 AM
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What exactly are you implying?

Clarify a little.. :P
Aug 24, 2013 8:21 AM
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eh?
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Aug 24, 2013 8:25 AM
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stefeman said:
What exactly are you implying?

Clarify a little.. :P

Well you know in shounens you usually get introduced to your villains in each specific arc,then the mc trains and gets to their level,but with the yorknew arc it was a sense of desperation.You know the mc and his friends weren't nearly as strong as the phantom troupe yet the way it's handled is so different and clever o.0
Aug 24, 2013 8:25 AM
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I think he means that, Hunter x Hunter stands up from the basic "shounen crap" by breaking the "rules" by being different?

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stefeman said:
What exactly are you implying?

Clarify a little.. :P

Well you know in shounens you usually get introduced to your villains in each specific arc,then the mc trains and gets to their level,but with the yorknew arc it was a sense of desperation.You know the mc and his friends weren't nearly as strong as the phantom troupe yet the way it's handled is so different and clever o.0


27 seconds too late with this post :P

Yes, i agree. But kurapika was still overpowered enough to take 2 or 3 of those members at once if he wanted.. Surely he could have conjured longer chains and formulated plan good enough to chain up all of them at once.. Instead he went for the lone idiot and every afterevents happened in logical order.. Basically there were no cliches and it was handled differently than i expected myself (i.e all villains defeated or dead without problems)..
stefemanAug 24, 2013 8:32 AM
Aug 24, 2013 8:28 AM
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Shounen isn't a genre, it's a demography.
Aug 24, 2013 8:29 AM
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Yeah the arc really shown how the group despite being completely underpowered compared to the villain can still emerge victorious (or at least partially success) in the end with clever teamwork and strategies without all fighting or brute force. It's certainly not something very common in standard Shounen manga.
Aug 24, 2013 9:14 AM
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You can say that it can be considered as a deconstruction of the Adventure/action genre, but not of the "shonen genre", because shonen is an age target,not a genre. However, is a very common mistake because almost EVERY shonen have the same characteristic: silly MC , characters who train to become stronger, the enemy that seems invincible but later is defeated, the resurrection stuff ecc. so i can understand why people think that shonen is a genre. Anyway,if we pretend that shonen is REALLY a genre, so yes...HxH can be considered a deconstruction of the genre. Just like Evangelion for mecha,to be clear.
Aug 24, 2013 12:00 PM
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Oh boy, just wait till you get to the Ant arc.
Aug 24, 2013 12:28 PM

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Shounen is not a genre...it is astounshing how ignorant western anime fans are.

Even if we assumed that shounen is a genre, then HxH is certainly not a deconstruction in any shape. Being unique and not so generic doesn't make something a deconstruction.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GenreDeconstruction
Aug 24, 2013 12:46 PM

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tsudman said:
Shounen is not a genre...it is astounshing how ignorant western anime fans are.

Even if we assumed that shounen is a genre, then HxH is certainly not a deconstruction in any shape. Being unique and not so generic doesn't make something a deconstruction.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GenreDeconstruction


Just to quote part of that article -

"Merely making a genre Darker and Edgier is not the same as deconstructing it."

As far as a battle anime, I definitely agree that HxH is much darker and edgier than your typical Naruto, OP, Bleach, etc etc. But it still follows the concepts that are present in those other battle shounen titles, such as training, powering up, building up for stronger enemies each arc, etc etc.

Albeit from my experience, HxH uses an unorthodox approach and I love it for that.
Aug 24, 2013 1:19 PM

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gedata said:
Oh boy, just wait till you get to the Ant arc.

I've only watched the original,I was planning to wait till the chimera arc was over to watch the remake but I couldn't wait anymore,now I just finished the dodgeball part in the remake,I'm getting there
Aug 24, 2013 3:49 PM

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I wouldn't call it a deconstruction as a whole (of action manga, not the "shounen genre"...). There are a few tropes that it breaks sometimes, especially during the Ant arc, an example being
but for the most part it's a typical action manga.
fatdinosaurAug 24, 2013 4:07 PM

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