| as expecting from Giant Killing my favorite soccer manga it's very realistic and detective conan don't fail to get high ranked state ;) shinjeki no kyojin straggling their, it was a popular manga before it get animated but after that it become more and more popular, it worth that succeed but the manga that doesn't worth that succeed is Sukitte Ii na yo, every time i began to read it i feel sick, well, it's not bad but it's also not that good, it's a normal shoujo manga kingdom is such a good manga to read, i wanted to read it but i fail every time to make a time for it |
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Zefyris said: Mecasonic said: Zefyris said: A teaser was translated on baka tsuki here, http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5656 , there isn't even a need to register in order to vote, and if that novel gathered enough vote it would probably have been picked up by a translator already, but seems like people are blind and want ecchi stuff translated instead. Well, keep being blind, while me and at least around 10k (it seems?) peoples are freaking enjoying this LN x]. Tbqh, I haven't seen many novels that actually got picked up a translator just because they got a lot of votes in a poll. Most of the translation projects on B-T seem to start because someone decided to translate a novel they have already read, not because they noticed that there is a lot of demand for a certain novel. I'm not that familiar with baka tsuki as I usually buy what I read (at least as far as novel/light novel are concerned), I mainly know this site from people around me go there in order to read LNs; but for what I saw the series picked up recently which had a teaser were series with far FAR more voters in the teaser thread's poll than rokka no yuusha's poll in average. So I would say that the number of voters at the very least plays a part in the translator's decision. Obviously, anyone would rather spend time translating something wanted that something no one is interested in. Well, obviously as well, I don't think translator are going to translate something they aren't interested in themselves; but on that point there's no real problem here. I mean, to find someone dissatisfied after reading rokka no yuusha on the internet, it takes quite a while. I spent time reading lot of reviews about rokka no yuusha on different japanese websites ( big ones like amazon as well as small websites), and almost everyone praise it, it's not just people of the industry (and that what finally decided me to buy them, didn't regret it at all :3 ). So I still think that the lack of interest from the baka tsuki users is for a lot in the fact that it never passed the status of teaser as a project. I may be wrong though :>. symbv said: Zefyris said: I misunderstood what you said. I thought you meant to say that the poll was done only by people of the industry. My bad.There's three categories of voters, not two. And the third is people of the industry. Rokka no yuusha was pushed by that category of voters essentially: Ah I see, no wonder that you said that then. Do you think Rokka no Yuusha will become popular? |
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Satan-sama said: as expecting from Giant Killing my favorite soccer manga it's very realistic and detective conan don't fail to get high ranked state ;) shinjeki no kyojin straggling their, it was a popular manga before it get animated but after that it become more and more popular, it worth that succeed but the manga that doesn't worth that succeed is Sukitte Ii na yo, every time i began to read it i feel sick, well, it's not bad but it's also not that good, it's a normal shoujo manga kingdom is such a good manga to read, i wanted to read it but i fail every time to make a time for it Thank you for saying soccer and not football. I looked up Giant killing cause people say is about football and I love football myself. When i saw it was soccer and not football. I was real sad. |
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Harutora said: Zefyris said: Mecasonic said: Zefyris said: A teaser was translated on baka tsuki here, http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5656 , there isn't even a need to register in order to vote, and if that novel gathered enough vote it would probably have been picked up by a translator already, but seems like people are blind and want ecchi stuff translated instead. Well, keep being blind, while me and at least around 10k (it seems?) peoples are freaking enjoying this LN x]. Tbqh, I haven't seen many novels that actually got picked up a translator just because they got a lot of votes in a poll. Most of the translation projects on B-T seem to start because someone decided to translate a novel they have already read, not because they noticed that there is a lot of demand for a certain novel. I'm not that familiar with baka tsuki as I usually buy what I read (at least as far as novel/light novel are concerned), I mainly know this site from people around me go there in order to read LNs; but for what I saw the series picked up recently which had a teaser were series with far FAR more voters in the teaser thread's poll than rokka no yuusha's poll in average. So I would say that the number of voters at the very least plays a part in the translator's decision. Obviously, anyone would rather spend time translating something wanted that something no one is interested in. Well, obviously as well, I don't think translator are going to translate something they aren't interested in themselves; but on that point there's no real problem here. I mean, to find someone dissatisfied after reading rokka no yuusha on the internet, it takes quite a while. I spent time reading lot of reviews about rokka no yuusha on different japanese websites ( big ones like amazon as well as small websites), and almost everyone praise it, it's not just people of the industry (and that what finally decided me to buy them, didn't regret it at all :3 ). So I still think that the lack of interest from the baka tsuki users is for a lot in the fact that it never passed the status of teaser as a project. I may be wrong though :>. Do you think Rokka no Yuusha will become popular? That would be really difficult imo, for several reasons. 1) Most of the popular novels either have slice of life (in school especially), love comedy, ecchi or game related as a main component. While there are huge exceptions, it seems to me that others type of novels don't sell that well most of the time. Rokka no Yuusha doesn't have any of those. Its two main components are basically Fantasy and Mystery (btw, someone removed the tag "mystery" that I put on the rokka no yuusha manga and novel page of MAL when I created them... Don't know who but that's definitely not a smart move, this is a full fledged mystery novel, it was the second most important tag among those registered :/ ). 2) While the illustrations are some of the prettiest I have seen in a novel (not reaching the level of Gosick, but really pretty, especially if you compare them with the tome 1-3 of most other series I have seen), they don't have that "anime-like" look. If you want to see what I mean, just look at some of the color page on my profile (as every color image currently displayed on my profile is from rokka no yuusha). Again, while this is really fitting for this novel, most of the LN readers seems to favor anime/manga-like illustrations. 3) Super Dash Bunko is a really small publisher (well, they're part of shuueisha, but not one of their main windows to sell stuff), with mainly obscure titles (besides a few like campione) so they probably have far less budget used for commercials compared to publishers like dengeki bunko. Actually, the main publicity for those book was probably done by "kono light novel wa sugoi" magazine by ranking the novels third. Without that, ranking in the oricon chart may have been impossible. 4) publication speed is pretty slow for a light novel (around one book every 7-8 months). I'd rather have the author keep taking his time in order to keep the excellent quality; but this sure doesn't help either. 5) We seem to be lacking active fans. While everyone seems to agree about the quality, almost no one is actively campaigning to make the series more known. Before I made them 2 weeks ago, there wasn't even a rokka no yuusha entry on MAL, even for the manga version of it. If not for a few really strong comments about it on animesuki* I would amost say that no one is doing its promotion on english boards. ( I saw a far more on japanese website obviouslyl, but each of them individually weren't that vocal either, they say they like or they do a really positive review and generally stop there) Like apr's comment a few months ago : apr@animesuki said: Fuck this. Fuck fuck fuck. I just spent three hours on the toilet, furiously reading Rokka no Yuusha vol 1 all the way to the end. 140 goddamn pages without a break. That's how good it was. That's how hard it was to put down. And then, fucking fuck, that fucking last page. FUCK! How the fuck can he do this to me?! Urgh. Not really polite, but the words are quite convincing, right? =) . And a few pages later the same user was saying that he liked even more the second volume, ahahah. We're lacking fans that can leave a strong impression with their comments like that on places where they'll be read and therefore spread the word ImO. Well, anyway, I don't think so. A well done anime could allow this to happen, but I don't think we'll see one; that or it will be a low budget one with a real massacre done on the story/characters so it won't work. Well, maybe I'm just pessimist, but I'm not counting on it. |
ZefyrisAug 3, 2013 10:52 AM
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Zefyris said: Harutora said: Zefyris said: Mecasonic said: Zefyris said: A teaser was translated on baka tsuki here, http://www.baka-tsuki.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=5656 , there isn't even a need to register in order to vote, and if that novel gathered enough vote it would probably have been picked up by a translator already, but seems like people are blind and want ecchi stuff translated instead. Well, keep being blind, while me and at least around 10k (it seems?) peoples are freaking enjoying this LN x]. Tbqh, I haven't seen many novels that actually got picked up a translator just because they got a lot of votes in a poll. Most of the translation projects on B-T seem to start because someone decided to translate a novel they have already read, not because they noticed that there is a lot of demand for a certain novel. I'm not that familiar with baka tsuki as I usually buy what I read (at least as far as novel/light novel are concerned), I mainly know this site from people around me go there in order to read LNs; but for what I saw the series picked up recently which had a teaser were series with far FAR more voters in the teaser thread's poll than rokka no yuusha's poll in average. So I would say that the number of voters at the very least plays a part in the translator's decision. Obviously, anyone would rather spend time translating something wanted that something no one is interested in. Well, obviously as well, I don't think translator are going to translate something they aren't interested in themselves; but on that point there's no real problem here. I mean, to find someone dissatisfied after reading rokka no yuusha on the internet, it takes quite a while. I spent time reading lot of reviews about rokka no yuusha on different japanese websites ( big ones like amazon as well as small websites), and almost everyone praise it, it's not just people of the industry (and that what finally decided me to buy them, didn't regret it at all :3 ). So I still think that the lack of interest from the baka tsuki users is for a lot in the fact that it never passed the status of teaser as a project. I may be wrong though :>. Do you think Rokka no Yuusha will become popular? That would be really difficult imo, for several reasons. 1) Most of the popular novels either have slice of life (in school especially), love comedy, ecchi or game related as a main component. While there are huge exceptions, it seems to me that others type of novels don't sell that well most of the time. Rokka no Yuusha doesn't have any of those. Its two main components are basically Fantasy and Mystery (btw, someone removed the tag "mystery" that I put on the rokka no yuusha manga and novel page of MAL when I created them... Don't know who but that's definitely not a smart move, this is a full fledged mystery novel, it was the second most important tag among those registered :/ ). 2) While the illustrations are some of the prettiest I have seen in a novel (not reaching the level of Gosick, but really pretty, especially if you compare them with the tome 1-3 of most other series I have seen), they don't have that "anime-like" look. If you want to see what I mean, just look at some of the color page on my profile (as every color image currently displayed on my profile is from rokka no yuusha). Again, while this is really fitting for this novel, most of the LN readers seems to favor anime/manga-like illustrations. 3) Super Dash Bunko is a really small publisher (well, they're part of shuueisha, but not one of their main windows to sell stuff), with mainly obscure titles (besides a few like campione) so they probably have far less budget used for commercials compared to publishers like dengeki bunko. Actually, the main publicity for those book was probably done by "kono light novel wa sugoi" magazine by ranking the novels third. Without that, ranking in the oricon chart may have been impossible. 4) publication speed is pretty slow for a light novel (around one book every 7-8 months). I'd rather have the author keep taking his time in order to keep the excellent quality; but this sure doesn't help either. 5) We seem to be lacking active fans. While everyone seems to agree about the quality, almost no one is actively campaigning to make the series more known. Before I made them 2 weeks ago, there wasn't even a rokka no yuusha entry on MAL, even for the manga version of it. If not for a few really strong comments about it on animesuki* I would amost say that no one is doing its promotion on english boards. ( I saw a far more on japanese website obviouslyl, but each of them individually weren't that vocal either, they say they like or they do a really positive review and generally stop there) Like apr's comment a few months ago : apr@animesuki said: Fuck this. Fuck fuck fuck. I just spent three hours on the toilet, furiously reading Rokka no Yuusha vol 1 all the way to the end. 140 goddamn pages without a break. That's how good it was. That's how hard it was to put down. And then, fucking fuck, that fucking last page. FUCK! How the fuck can he do this to me?! Urgh. Not really polite, but the words are quite convincing, right? =) . And a few pages later the same user was saying that he liked even more the second volume, ahahah. We're lacking fans that can leave a strong impression with their comments like that on places where they'll be read ImO. Well, anyway, I don't think so. A well done anime could allow this to happen, but I don't think we'll see one; that or it will be a low budget one with a real massacre done on the story/characters so it won't work. Well, maybe I'm just pessimist, but I'm not counting on it. Makes me sad to hear this and I really appreciate you adding Rokka No Yuusha in the MAL entry. I was wondering who did this. Also I seen your profile name in other sites with Rokka no Yuusha pictures. It seems you're trying really hard to get Rokka no yuusha be known. Good stuff man. Keep it up. By the way, is Adlet the real name of the main character or Adoretto? When i went to super dash bunko site and it had Adoretto as his name and not Adlet. |
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| The forenames of all of the 11 main characters are written in roman letters on top of being written in katakana on the color pages (either below or above the color picture of said character) of the light novels so there is absolutely no doubt that it's "Adlet". The doubt remains for everyone's name however. For example for Adlet, is that really Mayer of Maya or something else, I don't know. Yes, I read them recently and have been trying to bring a bit of attention toward those LN here and there. No real success so far but the fact that it's still not translated doesn't help either ^^". |
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| Oh I see. At least you're trying to advertize it. Maybe in the future it becomes popular. You should translate it.. Like seriously, I want to read it so badly. ;__; |
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Harutora said: Oh I see. At least you're trying to advertize it. Maybe in the future it becomes popular. You should translate it.. Like seriously, I want to read it so badly. ;__; Well if I could do that, things would be simpler. I would have already translated a chapter or two by now. Unfortunately, writing the synopsis as well as the character presentations were enough to make me reconfirm that this isn't something that I can do. My level in English is simply too bad. It took me a lot of time to write those texts and try to correct things, yet it's probably still full of mistakes. Translating it in my mother language should be possible somewhat, but this wouldn't really help here ;). |
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| JoJo versus Ansatsu is FUN: |
| So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old? I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them? I wonder how long people would put up with this. As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series. |
| strrong week for harem LN |
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| Since when was there a Koukou Debut Vol 15? They havent even released Vol 14 in English yet, where can I read scans of these volumes? |
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scabab said: Not supposed to ask for scan download locations here. Most of the "white hat" scanlation places take them down once they are licensed in English. Otherwise try google...Since when was there a Koukou Debut Vol 15? They havent even released Vol 14 in English yet, where can I read scans of these volumes? If you can read Japanese then I really encourage you to buy them to support the authors you like. I am not sure they make as much money off Viz licensed copies as original copies in Japanese. If you were just hoping to look at the pictures then well... I know it is a pain waiting for Viz to translate stuff. They are so behind! Only good thing is that wait time and some other annoyances like name changes and stuff encouraged me to learn Japanese years ago. Much better reading it in the original language... |
hpulleyAug 5, 2013 4:18 PM
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