Aniplex USA Licenses Sword Art Online, Zetsuen no Tempest, and Magi

Dragon_Slayer_X said:


So i have to be an expert here to be expert on anime???.............Are you like 2-yr old??? Sorry pal unlike brats like you i don't need to depend on ratings on MAL to choose which anime to watch or what characters to like. Stop embarrassing yourself kid.

Saturate said:


here you go Red Keys,and you say my english is bad.

Saturate said:
its the second time you are writing empty messages,instead of wasting time just write how I contradict myself.

Saturate said:
Wow,I just hate people like you,you are one of those assholes who think that some grammer mistakes reflect intelligence,thats pretty pathetic,my friend.

Saturate said:
I will start with saying that english isnt my main language,I dont live in New York-like you.
secondly,I didnt try to use any high level wording,I could do it,but I didnt,I can also say that most of my grammer mistakes are because of fast writing.
So you judge people's intelligence by their english grammer? thats just sad,its like you think that because you know english,you are smart,thats a fool thinking,I hate idiots who think they are smart,they are the worst.

Saturate said:
p.s-I know 4 languages,believe me,its not so easy to know all of them perfectly.

Saturate said:
now,to the main issue-
1)you are trying to sound like a smartass again,and belive me,it doesnt really help.

Saturate said:
why should people love a show because it is popular? of course its popular because people loved it,you are saying the obvious.
I have already answered you-the show is popular because it had luck,some fools were exposed to it,then they spread the show and it got popular,you really didnt say anything here,you just used some pompous wording,it doesnt make you smart,dear.

Saturate said:
2)you have just contradicted yourself,you said SAO wasnt meant to be a groundbreaking novel,yet it has the score of a masterpiece,thats excatly what makes it overrated.

Saturate said:
I dont tell people to hate the show,I just tell them to face the reality-SAO isnt a masterpiece and isnt even close to that,Im sorry,people who think SAO is a masterpiece arent people who I will give a damn about,you can like the show,you can give it a score based on your enjoyment,but you cant deny the fact its shit.

Saturate said:
those people are the fanboys,the people who deny the fact SAO is a shit and call it a masterpiece.

Saturate said:
3)what most of the intilligent people vote governs what intilligent and what isnt.
naturally,the 'most' I was talking about was most of the intilligent people who found the negative reviews helpful,the 'most' that gave SAO this high score,are the fools.(like I said earilier,I dont care if people rate a show based on their enjoyment,but most of SAO fanboys just can admit its a shitty show,they think its a masterpiece,and thats what I cant stand).

Saturate said:
4)more of your smartass talking,oh well-
yes,I wont consider some people's opinions,why should I?

Saturate said:
Most of SAO fanboys dont understand a single thing in the animes world,why should I consider opinions of people who dont understand in the subject?

Saturate said:
its like taking in mind a grammer opinion of someone who doesnt know the language.
try to think it over.

Saturate said:
You wont repeat yourself?
nice excuse for not having an answer.

Saturate said:
you are the one here who is conceited,you think you are some genius,you should wake from your dream.
Look,perhaps if I knew Im stupid I would feel bad,but Im not stupid,its a fact,not my opinion(Im not being conceited here,I took some tests).

Saturate said:
Now,I will capitalize letters whenever I feel like capitalizing letters,nobody really gives a shit about it,however,it seems like you think you can measure my intelligence by some grammer mistakes,its sad,really.

Saturate said:
And now I will repeat myself for the last time-you are not a smartass,you are an idiot,you are the one who is conceited,Im realistic.

Saturate said:
like a smartass again

Saturate said:
more of your smartass talking

Saturate said:
you are a sad smartass

Saturate said:
you can continue repeating how everyone's opinion is equal,but in the end of the day,you are the one here who thinks he is superior ,you are a sad smartass who only thinks he is smart,you sure are a dick.

Saturate said:
And me?im just being realistic,people who dont know a single thing about animes dont know to judge an anime,and cant tell which anime is a masterpiece and which isnt,believe me-its better than acting like some hero of justice who considers everyone's opinion.

Saturate said:
I dont think Im superior like you,I just understand the fact that not everyone is good in one thing,people who dont understand in anime shouldnt express their stupid opinions until they earn enough knowledge in the subject,then they can express their opinion.

Saturate said:
Its just like I wont express my opinion on guitar players,because I dont understand a shit about guitars,I could just hear some amatuer guitar player and think he is a genius,does it mean its true?should anyone take my opinion srsly?the same goes here.

Saturate said:
The conclusion:
you are a hypocrite,im not.
you are stupid,im not.
you are thinking yourself superior,Im not.

Saturate said:
Wow,DragonSlayer,you are so stupid I dont know if I should reply.
I just explained why some people's opinions dont count,and yet, you wrote 'How dare you. People are not allowed to have opinions? What the fuck?'

Lil_Wayne said:

Someone is pretty butthurt. Face it, DragonSlayer destroyed you. Idk how you can even post anymore after that. That was a brutal fatality.

Saturate said:
Wow,DragonSlayer,you are so stupid I dont know if I should reply.
I just explained why some people's opinions dont count,and yet, you wrote 'How dare you. People are not allowed to have opinions? What the fuck?'

Dragon_Slayer_X said:


Wrong person kid!!! Are your eyes as bad as your language skills??? Seriously don't try to embarrass yourself more by saying nonsense............well that's all you can do after Red_Keys beat you into a pulp like that. Seriously you shouldn't even argue after that if you were a tiny bit intelligent(?).

RockerXD said:


The guy doesn't understand the difference between opinions and advice. The guitar one for example, they should care about your opinion, cause if they are aspiring to be a professional at it, the average person must think it's good. Giving advice on a subject you know nothing about, however, is bad.

Saturate said:
the average person doesnt need to think its good

Saturate said:
,I know nothing about guitars,so proffesional guitar players dont sound good ot me

Saturate said:
,in my opinion,they just arent good.

Saturate said:
thats why people who do understand in guitars shouldnt give a shit about my opinion,

Saturate said:
because I dont understand in guitars.(I have a friend who is very good in playing guitar,but i dont think its good,I dont understand in the subject,thats why nobody should give a shit about what I have to say that relates to guitars.

Saturate said:
to RedKeys-I can answer everything you wrote,

Saturate said:
but I think im wasting my time,I explained why some people's opinions should be ignored,and yet,you are just repeating yourself 'how dare you.....bla bla bla'

Saturate said:
and how ironic,the idiots you said you hate protect you,lol(im talking about dragon slayer)

Red_Keys said:
If the artist want to make it big, yes, average people do need to. Otherwise they won't sell.

That literally makes no fucking sense.

No comment.

No it's not.

So you don't like music? You don't like movies? You don't like fine food? You don't like anything in the entertainment industry? You make absolutely no sense.

lol

You mean I "refuted" you. You have yet to do anything except quote me. That's not an argument.

There you go again. Putting words into my mouth. You really are one stupid fuck. You should stop embarrassing yourself.

Saturate said:
I dont think Im superior like you,I just understand the fact that not everyone is good in one thing,people who dont understand in anime shouldnt express their stupid opinions until they earn enough knowledge in the subject,then they can express their opinion.

yhunata said:
I wasn't planning on interfering on this little "debate" you guys have been having, but Saturate, something you said ticked me off somewhat. You said that



From what I could interpret from this "discussion", I'm taking that you believe yourself to be educated in Anime and are intelligent, yes? But, believe it or not, you kept ridiculing yourself by means of contradiction.

First you say that it is fine to like SAO. Then you say that it shouldn't be rated as highly as it is. I've read what you said earlier and you didn't seem to find where you were contradicting yourself. Here is how you were doing so; "It is fine to like SAO." "People who rate SAO highly are fools." You also made this seem to be a fact. Here's the thing, it's not. A fact is something that can be proven with evidence. The only evidence you have is that you didn't like SAO, but these "fools" did. What you are suffering from here is not the disease called "Intelligence", but rather a virus that goes by the name of "Don't you dare like what I don't".

Before you go making me the fool, know this. I rate everything I watch based purely on entertainment. Thus, I rated SAO a 7. It's not the best anime out there, but it certainly is not the worst. And again, before you call me a fool, I'd like to tell you that in no way is a person with an IQ of over 140 a "fool". And before you go calling me "uneducated" in the "art of anime", know this also. I've watched over twice the amount of anime you have, so you really aren't in a position to call me so.

One more thing; to be intelligent is not to insult and berate others for their stupidity, but to be able to acquire and apply knowledge. What you have been doing is not applying your knowledge, but rather berating your opinion and trying to make them facts. To be intelligent you have to be accepting of all opinions so that you can acquire more knowledge to apply. In your arrogance, you have simply been making a fool out of yourself.

Now that that is out of the way, I'd like to ask if Aniplex English Dubs are good? I had thought I had asked this before, but a search through the thread proved not. Also, I hear Aniplex is pretty pricy, is it true?

P.S. Saturate, don't bother replying to my post. It goes against my code to "discuss" anything with idiots. I'd rather not be brought down to your level, as a wise man once said.

Saturate said:

I will make it quick,I didnt contracdict myself.
If you read all I wrote,you should have known I didnt.
seems alot of people feel butthurt because of me attacking SAO fans.
alright,I said its fine to like SAO,its not fine to think SAO is a masterpiece,thats all I tried to say all this time.
you can like SAO,you cant consider it a masterpiece,obviously,some people rate the show because of their enjoyment,and thats fine,but TOO much people rate the show as a masterpiece because they really think its a masterpiece,thats what crazes me about SAO.
and just for you to know,I stop reading what you wrote when I saw this line: '"It is fine to like SAO." "People who rate SAO highly are fools."
I will be clearer for people like you who cant understand my intention-the people who really think SAO is a masterpiece are fools,people who rate the show high because of their enjoyment,arent,you can like the show,you cant consider it a masterpiece though.
the characters development is horrible,the sexual level is too much for the age of most of the audiences,most of the actions in SAO are ridiculous,the beating in the last episode was just extreamly ridiculous,no authenticity at all.

RockerXD said:


I personally don't think EL is a masterpiece, i think its pretentious, and fails with its genre mixing. I see it as a Sora no Otoshimono with blood and gore trying to give a message about the darker side of humanity. You can probably argue otherwise. The definition of masterpiece can differ from person to person, and they set the bar for that themselves. It's still a subjective matter, and you make it seem your ideals are objective fact.

Saturate said:

saying elfen lied is a masterpiece isnt absurd like saying SAO is a masterpiece

Saturate said:

I think there are few levels between them

Saturate said:

masterpiece can differ from person to person,but not in SAO case,SAO is just several levels below

Saturate said:

the characters often act in an unsuitable way to their personalities

Saturate said:

I must say,its time for someone like you to respond,at last,someone I can really discuss with.
ok,you can say elfen lied isnt a masterpiece,elfen lied is very controversial anime,some say it is a masterpiece,and some say it isnt,but overall,saying elfen lied is a masterpiece isnt absurd like saying SAO is a masterpiece,I think there are few levels between them(you can say its a matter of opinion,but I dont really think you can try to make a comparison between the animes),elfen lied at least has a message,has something the writer wants to deliever us,I always thought that animes with a message are of a better quality(not all of the times though),I dont think you can make a comparison between an anime like SAO and elfen lied,SAO doesnt even have a common sense,the characters often act in an unsuitable way to their personalities,and there is alot more to say.
you are right,masterpiece can differ from person to person,but not in SAO case,SAO is just several levels below(because all of the reasons I said and more).
once an anime has the basic terms,whether it is a masterpiece or not is arguable,SAO doesnt have those terms.

whatever123456 said:






So, what is it? Are lesser beings allowed to have their own opinion or is your expert opinion (that is supported by the incredibly high number of 70 completed shows) still absolute?



I can't think of a single instance that would support your claim.

RockerXD said:


Ok, first, back up the claims against SAO, cause i don't recall anything that contradicts their character. And again, you are taking your own subjective views and making them sound like objective fact. One flaw in a show, can be a positive thing to the another. I know some people that think the ending of Neon Genesis Evangelion was actually good.

Also, your terms for being a masterpiece doesn't apply to everyone. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind_projection_fallacy

Saturate said:

p.s most of the animes I saw arent in my MAL,my MAL is pretty new,and I didnt have patience to add all of the animes I saw,but I watch animes for years.

Saturate said:

and you are an expert?
your MAL doesnt say so.

yhunata said:
Now that that is out of the way, I'd like to ask if Aniplex English Dubs are good? I had thought I had asked this before, but a search through the thread proved not. Also, I hear Aniplex is pretty pricy, is it true?

yhunata said:
I already said I'm not gonna reply to Saturate, but can someone answer my question, please? I'm fairly new (okay, completely new) to legal acquiring of Anime, so I don't really know about the American studios.

AbZeroNow said:


Aniplex of America charges the most out of any R1 company, and they don't often do dubs, but they usually use Bang Zoom! for their English dubs, and I tend to like what Bang Zoom! dubs so I'd say Aniplex does good dubs. I have only bought Oreimo. Madoka's pricepoints($20 to $30 for a 4 episode DVD) weren't that bad but paying $150 for Bakemonogatari or Garden of Sinners was just too out of my pricerange. I am hoping that Aniplex USA either brings them under $100 or at least does a dub so I can justify buying it.

However, Aniplex of America licenses pretty good shows to great shows and theya re good about making their series available for streaming on Crunchyroll and a few other legal sites so you don't have to blind buy a series.