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Just like the topic says who's your favorite servant from Fate/Stay Night? Discuss or just poll.





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Oct 16, 2008 11:14 PM
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Saber, most definitely. Can't say that with 100% certainty because I have yet to see True Assassin, but I don't think it'll change even after I see him.
Oct 17, 2008 1:01 AM
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Gil, definitely.

Though I like all of the servants. In all my liking for them would go something like
Gil > Lancer > Assassin > Archer > Saber > Berserker > Rider > Caster, and I'm not well acquainted with True Assassin yet.
Oct 17, 2008 5:40 PM
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ofc it's Saber..my love ^^
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Oct 18, 2008 12:12 AM
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Well thats somewhat strange...
You see my Favourite servant is Archer but i like Saber more :S Lol i really have no idea how this sound but i somewhat have the same feeling as Shirou that Saber shouldnt be fighting etc :S Yeah i know its laaaaaaaame :P(im not sure if i explained right what i was thinking but i tried :)
So its somewhat like this for me: Archer>Lancer>Bersherker>Rider=Caster>Gilga
Oct 18, 2008 12:35 AM
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She can protect herself Shirou!! Go protect your real woman. xD





Oct 18, 2008 12:54 AM
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:) Btw Faker i <3 ur sig !!! Shirou looks imba Gar there!!!!!
Note:How come Hai from Darker than Black came first at Gar tour and not Archer ffs???!?!? :D
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Thanks Cloud. I like your avatar. ^^ As for my sig. its suppose to represent Shirou, Sakura and Rin from the HF perspective.

But yeah I hav no idea why Archer lost. Hai aint even that GAR to be honest. :/





Oct 18, 2008 3:49 PM
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Saber, then Archer, then Rider
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Saber <3 Then Caster


Oct 18, 2008 9:14 PM
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will chose later when HF is released and played
Oct 19, 2008 8:40 PM

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archer then saber
Oct 19, 2008 9:36 PM

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Archer and Saber tied? Blasphemy!


Oct 20, 2008 3:14 PM

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lol
Oct 20, 2008 4:48 PM

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Everyone knows the correct order of the servants by greatness is:

Saber>Caster>Archer>Rider>True Assassin>Gilgamesh>Lancer>Berserker>Assassin


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Greatness by gender-wise. Lol.

Terms of GAR Archer is better.

Terms of cuteness Saber is better.

Terms of power and strongest hero Berserker is better.

Terms of speed Lancer is better.

Terms of womanhood Rider is better. Or Caster

Terms of carelessness, money, oldest legend and GoB haxx Gilgamesh is better.

I'm curious who voted for Berserker.
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Oct 21, 2008 12:22 AM

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Well I agree with Faker but:
Terms of womanhood Rider is THE BEST.period
Terms of power you cant say that Bersherker is better.Unless u mean raw strenght mb. Cause

I agree with the rest :)
Oct 21, 2008 12:46 AM

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In terms of power Berserker is stronger than Gilgamesh. Gilgamesh was better than Berserker in several factors.



I had to stick Caster in their somewhere. :/

And I have no idea where to stick Assassin. xD





Oct 22, 2008 2:54 AM

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I've gotta say, Archer is most likely the best servant for me- He isn't the strongest, or the most powerful, but he's got... something...

Caster is just too powerful (Stat hax), but could be EASILY defeated by Saber(What with her magic nullification and all).

Gotta love Saber's Godmodding


Berserker is just pure brute force- He's, a good choice, but not exactly my cup of tea.

Lancer's speed is definitely something I'd want.

Gilgamesh is way too Haxer-ish


Rider, Assassin, Lancer and Archer are pretty much the only properly well-balanced ones- The others seem far too powerful to be allowed.
Oct 22, 2008 10:12 AM

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Rider's pretty weak in comparison to most other servants.
Assassin put himself in a situation where he was pretty much invincible.

Though if he were to fight in a different situation, he'd probably still give Saber a hard time at least.

Lancer had apparently also done something similar to Assassin without even being in any kind of special conditions.

Archer's also extremely tough. Needless to say he could do anything Gilgamesh could, though his weapons would be a bit weaker, he has more skill as a fighter. He's also extremely smart, and could turn the situation in his favor with a bit of strategy.


Saber, in terms of skill, I'd say would be on-par with Lancer, Archer, and Assassin. Though I'd say Assassin's a bit weaker, and Archer's skills revolve more around his resourcefulness.
All of their noble phantasms can't really be used often. Though if Saber were to have someone other than Shirou as a master, she'd outclass the others, but that doesn't necessarily mean she'd win every fight without fault. These things are very situational.

Not to mention Archer'd be able to block Excalibur with Aius, maybe, and if Saber didn't have Shirou as a master, that'd mean no Avalon. Also, I don't think any servant would be able to beat him if he were to use UBW at full strength. Only Berserker could potentially survive.


I'd keep going but my brain just shorted out.
I like thinking about this kinda thing, in case I haven't made that obvious o3o
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It's a good question if Aius can block Excalibur. Aius in legend has been known to block anything that is a thrown weapon.

Gae Bolg's legend was known to hit it's target no matter what and penetrate thru any defense.

I'm not quite sure which legend is older, I think Aius is, but Gae Bolg still managed to penetrate Aius.

I'm not quite sure if Archer used UBW to it's full potential then no servant will be able to beat him. He has many attacak possibilities within UBW but servants with strong stats can probably survive. Berserker or full powered Saber.





Oct 25, 2008 6:21 PM

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Archer beating Saber?

This topic is dead to me >: (


Oct 25, 2008 6:24 PM

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Islaya said:
Archer beating Saber?

This topic is dead to me >: (


Lol

Even Assassin got a vote and not Lancer or Rider. I wonder who voted for him?





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Btw if someone manage to survive within UBW then that means Archer probably lost.It need a huge amount of mana to sustain ubw and if it ended he would need more energy to use normal projection as well.So if some1 survives its more luckily to bear Archer afterwards.But all these "if" and "if" are kind of lame :( Cause the fact is it always depends on the circumstances.If archer was fighting to protect someone or if he had any specific goal in general...
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Yes it always depends on the circumstances. A Saber at full power won't necessarily win over for say Gilgamesh. Same goes for Archer and his UBW.

It's his trump card but it won't guarantee a victory for him. UBW is just a means for Archer/Shirou to have access to his armaments sooner.

He just needs prana to activate it and maintain it. But if he projects new weapons or recreates weapons that broke while the RM was expanded then it would cost him a hefty amount of prana.





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what, im the first to vote for Lancer. whats wrong with all of u, cant u see his greatness.
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Lancer got some love!! xD





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Since i look at the servents fighting each other through there stats, skills and NP any servent can beat almost any servent with a few exeptions.
i.e.
Caster cant beat Saber, Lancer, Berserker and Gil.
Saber cant beat Gil, Berserker, or Assassin (in sword combat).
Lancer can pretty much beat anyone exept Gil based on the fact that his NP costs little prana, he's the fastest servent, has strong magic resistance, and is almost always assured a one hit kill.
Gil should technicelly be able to beat everyone for a number of reasons.
etc.

but thats not taking into account diff sercumstances.
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Ketuekigami said:

Gil should technicelly be able to beat everyone for a number of reasons.
etc.

but thats not taking into account diff sercumstances.


One sentence: Gate of Babylowned haxxx and a Sword that is major haxx. xD

I would say the only person Lancer can't beat for sure is probably Berserker. Because even if Berserker died once by Gae Bolg, God Hand would negate it and gain a resistance too it. If Gil didn't have a high Luck and Enkidu; Lancer would've stood a chance at least.

And if Caster was able to use the Golden Fleece, then she probably would've been just as powerful as any of the other servants too. But since she can't she has to rely on surprise attacks and defensive tactics.





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FakerEmiya said:
Ketuekigami said:

Gil should technicelly be able to beat everyone for a number of reasons.
etc.

but thats not taking into account diff sercumstances.


One sentence: Gate of Babylowned haxxx and a Sword that is major haxx. xD

I would say the only person Lancer can't beat for sure is probably Berserker. Because even if Berserker died once by Gae Bolg, God Hand would negate it and gain a resistance too it. If Gil didn't have a high Luck and Enkidu; Lancer would've stood a chance at least.

And if Caster was able to use the Golden Fleece, then she probably would've been just as powerful as any of the other servants too. But since she can't she has to rely on surprise attacks and defensive tactics.

ya i forgot how amazing Enkidu is, Gil is way to pwerful.
But for Lancer vs Berserker id ay he has a shot if he can succesfully dodge Berserkers attacks, it would only take 12 shots to kill him. But i think Lancer throwing Gea Bolg would take out more than 1 life. Although Berserker just needs to get in one hit.

If Caster could use Golden Fleece she would have no equal. i mean what can any of the servents do against a dragon.
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Ketuekigami said:
FakerEmiya said:
Ketuekigami said:

Gil should technicelly be able to beat everyone for a number of reasons.
etc.

but thats not taking into account diff sercumstances.


One sentence: Gate of Babylowned haxxx and a Sword that is major haxx. xD

I would say the only person Lancer can't beat for sure is probably Berserker. Because even if Berserker died once by Gae Bolg, God Hand would negate it and gain a resistance too it. If Gil didn't have a high Luck and Enkidu; Lancer would've stood a chance at least.

And if Caster was able to use the Golden Fleece, then she probably would've been just as powerful as any of the other servants too. But since she can't she has to rely on surprise attacks and defensive tactics.

ya i forgot how amazing Enkidu is, Gil is way to pwerful.
But for Lancer vs Berserker id ay he has a shot if he can succesfully dodge Berserkers attacks, it would only take 12 shots to kill him. But i think Lancer throwing Gea Bolg would take out more than 1 life. Although Berserker just needs to get in one hit.

If Caster could use Golden Fleece she would have no equal. i mean what can any of the servents do against a dragon.


Kill Caster for summoning it. xD

Bellephron Rider's NP is at least on the same defensive level as Dragon's but I'm sure Gilgamesh has a NP with dragon slaying properties and well Ea of course, and Saber's Excalibur can probably beat it.






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FakerEmiya said:
Ketuekigami said:
FakerEmiya said:
Ketuekigami said:

Gil should technicelly be able to beat everyone for a number of reasons.
etc.

but thats not taking into account diff sercumstances.


One sentence: Gate of Babylowned haxxx and a Sword that is major haxx. xD

I would say the only person Lancer can't beat for sure is probably Berserker. Because even if Berserker died once by Gae Bolg, God Hand would negate it and gain a resistance too it. If Gil didn't have a high Luck and Enkidu; Lancer would've stood a chance at least.

And if Caster was able to use the Golden Fleece, then she probably would've been just as powerful as any of the other servants too. But since she can't she has to rely on surprise attacks and defensive tactics.

ya i forgot how amazing Enkidu is, Gil is way to pwerful.
But for Lancer vs Berserker id ay he has a shot if he can succesfully dodge Berserkers attacks, it would only take 12 shots to kill him. But i think Lancer throwing Gea Bolg would take out more than 1 life. Although Berserker just needs to get in one hit.

If Caster could use Golden Fleece she would have no equal. i mean what can any of the servents do against a dragon.


Kill Caster for summoning it. xD

Bellephron Rider's NP is at least on the same defensive level as Dragon's but I'm sure Gilgamesh has a NP with dragon slaying properties and well Ea of course, and Saber's Excalibur can probably beat it.


oh ya, i forgot that Bellephron was strong enough to compete with dragons as a mythical beast.
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Ketuekigami said:
what, im the first to vote for Lancer. whats wrong with all of u, cant u see his greatness.

I would've voted for him if Gil wasn't one of my all-time favorite characters.

And even though Gil is my favorite, I think Lancer is the greatest.
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Archer is the best. He looks cool and fights pretty well.
Oct 29, 2008 5:38 AM

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Is the Golden Fleece something we will see at HF?
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Is the Golden Fleece something we will see at HF?

i can answer that withou playing HF.
No Caster never uses it cuz she doesnt know how to. "she does not have knowledge for the incarnation of mythical beasts, so Argon Coin is never used during the 5th Holy Grail War" (wiki).
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Oct 30, 2008 10:56 AM

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.... And then whats the point of it? I mean if she never used it then what? :)
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Cloud1234 said:
.... And then whats the point of it? I mean if she never used it then what? :)


She just owns it, that's all. She can't summon mythical beasts or divine beasts because she doesn't have the knowledge of incarnation.





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.... And then whats the point of it? I mean if she never used it then what? :)

she had it in life so its apart of her character info. Theres alot in the info of the characters that hasnt and probubly will never be mentioned in anything canon but since its apart of the legends story nasu still wrote about it.
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In a fight of Lancer versus Gilgamesch, I say most likely Gilgamesch will win. Lancer will pose a good fight, because his Protection from Arrows or his speed should make him able to fight against Gate of Babylon. Because of Gilgamesch's high luck, Lancer would have to throw Gae Bolg and most likely Gilgamesch will have something to counter that.

Lancer would probably lose to Berserker as well. I would guess that the Gae Bolg throw takes up a good amount of mana, compared to the regular stab Noble Phantasm. The throw, which is B+ in rank, probably wouldn't remove Berserker completely, because Caladbolg, which has the strength of A rank when used as a Broken Phantasm, did not remove Berserker in the Unlimited Blade Works route. I think it only killed Berserker once, but I can't be sure.

Lancer could kill Archer though, because of Archer's low luck. Certain Servants have advantages over the other. It's not just the vertical chart of strength would equal who would beat who as well. I did vote for Assassin, because he could be on par with Saber and because he is pretty honorable.
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In a fight of Lancer versus Gilgamesch, I say most likely Gilgamesch will win. Lancer will pose a good fight, because his Protection from Arrows or his speed should make him able to fight against Gate of Babylon. Because of Gilgamesch's high luck, Lancer would have to throw Gae Bolg and most likely Gilgamesch will have something to counter that.

Didn't they fight each other in the Fate route? Though Lancer was at a disadvantage because of the small amount of space they had to fight.

Lancer could kill Archer though, because of Archer's low luck. Certain Servants have advantages over the other. It's not just the vertical chart of strength would equal who would beat who as well. I did vote for Assassin, because he could be on par with Saber and because he is pretty honorable.

A full-on Lancer vs Archer match would be pretty cool, since they didn't get to finish their initial match.
I don't think luck affects much. Especially since Archer's UBW chants up probability or something like that. That, and Lancer has the same E luck stat as Archer.
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Scrya said:
In a fight of Lancer versus Gilgamesch, I say most likely Gilgamesch will win. Lancer will pose a good fight, because his Protection from Arrows or his speed should make him able to fight against Gate of Babylon. Because of Gilgamesch's high luck, Lancer would have to throw Gae Bolg and most likely Gilgamesch will have something to counter that.

Didn't they fight each other in the Fate route? Though Lancer was at a disadvantage because of the small amount of space they had to fight.


ya the match with Gil didnt end well for Lancer.

Lancer could kill Archer though, because of Archer's low luck. Certain Servants have advantages over the other. It's not just the vertical chart of strength would equal who would beat who as well. I did vote for Assassin, because he could be on par with Saber and because he is pretty honorable.

A full-on Lancer vs Archer match would be pretty cool, since they didn't get to finish their initial match.
I don't think luck affects much. Especially since Archer's UBW chants up probability or something like that. That, and Lancer has the same E luck stat as Archer.


the Luck factor has to due with Gae Bolg. the only way to dodge it has to do with luck, agility isnt a factor so Archer would be at a major disadvantage there. But a real match between them would be awesome and end with either winner.
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I like very much Lancer ( But no this in anime , i like lancer form Hollow Ataraxia ) .... But Archer do his job ^^ UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS !! ^^
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Archer still in the lead by 1!! With Saber 2nd and surprisingly Assassin in 3rd.





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He is FSN's Sacchin, and Sacchin's pretty popular.


Actually he's a better Sacchin than Sacchin imo.
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He is FSN's Sacchin, and Sacchin's pretty popular.


Actually he's a better Sacchin than Sacchin imo.

isnt it sad Lancer... but at least Lancer got screen time in the FSN sequel unlike the Tsuki one, Sachin has 0 screen time in Tohya except for 1 dream... so isnt it sad Sachin ;_ ;
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Look at Assassin in HF ;___;
Though Lancer also had it bad, Assassin had it the worst.
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Assassin didnt even get a chance to use his sword. >_<





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I wish we could vote for more than one person. ^^;;
Voted for Archer. ^^

Although... I didn't like him until after I finished the anime and saw him first appear in the manga. 0.o. Weird. I like him better in the manga. Especially when he sulks~ xDD
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Archer & Girugamesh all the way.

Voted for Gilgamesh, firstly because everyone vote for Archer anyway, and secondly because he's quite psycho :-3

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