| Heh, I'm actually not sure whether that is great news or not. I actually liked "Afro Samurai" and gave it an 8/10 rating, but its success over some far superior anime series may very well send the wrong message to Hollywood; 1. It's all about big stars like Kelly Hu, Samuel L. Jackson, and Ron Pearlman! 2. It's all about ridiculous, fun, action-heavy, story-light, character development-light series! |
| I think the problem is that getting many more on a non-pay channel can be quite difficult. So many stations want their own shows airing more than anything else. That's why the old Kids WB dropped Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh (a whole lot of good that did them). As far as I know, all of the channels that air lots of anime require payment and are completely unavailable in my area. |
| I don't know about that but I think they should show more shoujo on tv. |
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ShadowbladeEdge said: @Asrialys do you not have Cartoon Network? They've got some pretty good stuff on adult swim, and as aformetintioned TTGL is on SciFi. However anything else is gonna cost you, because anime is still a niche market. Yes, and I'm well aware of it. |
| Well, there is the FUNimation channel, but that's not really a major television network... |
ShadowbladeEdge said: If the masses like action anime, then so be it. It'll get more anime over here, making the market bigger, and if the companies have fall backs, like big action titles, be they'll probably more likely to take on seemingly more risky ventures, i.e. the good stuff, but I doubt people are so shallow as to only like action anime, and only action anime. You don't get it. It's not about what people like. It's about what the actual decision makers consider a SAFE way to make a lot of money. If they decide that the template for that is something like "Afro Samurai", well, prepare for a lot more simple-minded action anime with celebrity voice actors. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it's not ideal, either. |
| Today, it seems most knowledgeable companies want to get their big shows on the air, although it wasn't always like this. ADV perplexed me for years by staunchly resisting putting anything they owned over the airwaves for fear that it would decrease VHS and DVD sales, when it likely did the exact opposite (of course, they were raking in money at the time, so maybe they were right.) One can only wonder if Evangelion would have been any bigger in the USA had ADV aired it nationally before 2005 (not counting the two episodes it got during Giant Robot Week). I'm still waiting on that Nadia deal that was supposed to be close 10 years ago to come through. But I guess sometimes not airing it is better than airing it poorly. Q.V.: The Fox Kids Escaflowne debacle. |
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| Anime is on a major tv network in the UK Its a shame its the very bad ones but what do you expect for somethin that is on at 7am |
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Washi said: Post You said everything I wrote, except much more articulately, and longer. I only want to add that it's not quite as bad as you make it out to be. While "Afro Samurai" falls well short of anime elevated to a true art form, where it's an exceptionally well-told story that makes one think about any many different aspects of existence, it's also, AT THE VERY LEAST, a pretty good action movie. I'll take decent, mindless entertainment over nothing or something boring any day. Hell, most people here probably consider themselves true anime fans, and absolutely LOVE "Black Lagoon". (I like it too!) And if you think about it, "Black Lagoon" is just a superior version of "Afro Samurai". In other words, it's neither as good as ANN thinks it is, nor is it as bad as you believe it to be. |
Washi said: Well you get the point; it isn't really about how good of an action series the specific shows in question are, it's about the fact that they attract people who only want to see this closed spectrum of entertainment. I actually quite liked Black Lagoon, but importing anime based soley on its appeal to American audiences and expanding into a mainstream market will harm the integrity of the industry and of the US anime fanbase. Oh, don't get me wrong; I agree with what you wrote. For me and my individual likes and dislikes though,that might even be a good thing; my tastes are considerably different than that of most people here as well as most Japanese audiences, and while mindless action series like "Afro Samurai" aren't ideal, I'll take them over series where the characters stare into space, cry, and share their existentialist and post-modern angst with one another. And that's the whole point; what the majority of hardcore anime fans in English-speaking fans like today is completely different than what they liked ten years ago, is completely different from what casual fans in either time like(d), and is completely different from what either will enjoy in ten years' time. If "Afro Samurai" causes more series with a "closed spectrum of entertainment" to be made, that's not necessarily bad, as long as some good anime comes out of it. Think of it like old-school (1973-1984) Hong Kong kung fu action films. Were they limited and one-dimensional entertainment vehicles? Yes, for the most part. Were a lot of them good, very good, or even great? Absolutely. |
| Some 'big' series have been on major networks here in AU for a long time. SBS has played many series and movies over the years, and ABC2 has aired Noein, Ergo Proxy and currently Death Note since it launched (relatively new digital channel). SBS was showing Samurai Champloo a while back, and I watched Bebop, Trigun, Eva, Macross Plus, numerous Ghibli movies, Akira, Ninja Scroll and more on it over the years too. Both SBS and ABC2 are national, FTA stations. So I think it's a pretty good deal. Unfortunately SBS has become lazy and mostly airs dubs these days, when it used to sub anime, but dubs have a wider market appeal, sadly. I also have austar (satellite pay TV) and neither CN or Sci-Fi play any notable anime (pokemon and Naruto on CN) which upsets me. Though Madman seem to be interested in launching an anime dedicated channel, according to a poll I got in my email recently questioning Madman members whether they had pay TV and how they felt about the idea of an anime channel. I hope something comes of it. |
| I've always thought Azu Manga Daioh would be perfect for Sunday nights on Fox. |
| My anime list |
| I never really could get into Afro Samurai but I agree with what your saying. Just like when they played all of Miyazaki's movies on Turner Classic Movies last year. I fell in love with Princess Mononoke (which I had first heard about when I was little but never got to see it and forgot all about it) and I immediately got my mom to order it online along with Spirited away and Howl's Moving Castle. |
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| ZTV (youth television channel in Sweden) used to air animes during night. Lots of people were thrilled (forums etc). Somehow it failed :/ Back to Pokémon and Digimon T.T |
| Ok. So right now I am in India browsing through the TV channels when suddenly Prince of Tennis comes up on the Indian Jetix Channel AND its in English where as when ever I look in the UK for some anime all I get is some animated power rangers stuff (if that counts as an anime) |
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| I could imagine shows like Paradise Kiss and NANA being on The N network. |
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