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Feb 11, 2012 9:30 PM

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My original vote ("I don't care what will happen") still stands. I asked for the others...¯\_(¯ _¯ )_/¯
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GodlyKyon said:
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We saw a sharp rising in HareShu ever since she died
which is the complete opposite of what should be happening.


Well, I think people realized how much better Hare is compared to most of the other character in the series


AGREE!! I rarely tear up when watching anime but hare's death was just sad so I was crying.
Feb 16, 2012 4:49 PM

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DraconisMarch said:
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Pentagon, it's the symbol of something evil I believe is it not?
No. You're thinking of a pentagram.

other wise you'll be saying that America is evil.....
no wait
Feb 16, 2012 5:45 PM

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O_O stunned by the new episode
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Feb 17, 2012 10:15 AM

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that someone is whoring herself ???^^
Feb 17, 2012 12:55 PM

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Shu-Ayase FTW!

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kyonsmith said:
But that would be kinda hard since..Gai is back, so GG for Shu

given the current situation in tokyo, the characters may be a bit more open minded to an "open" coupling :o?
Feb 17, 2012 4:03 PM

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KyonSmith said:
Shu-Ayase FTW!



Perhaps not... See the glowing arm in the OP, he'll grow that one instead

and Ayase will not like the new Gai
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Feb 17, 2012 7:22 PM
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used to think Shoe x Ayase

but after the recent episodes im thinking more;

Shoe x Inori
Feb 25, 2012 5:23 PM
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please no Tsuguxdaryl he's nice, but not that nice y'know?
Feb 25, 2012 6:31 PM

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Nanodesu512 said:
please no Tsuguxdaryl he's nice, but not that nice y'know?


He is softening... Although I do think this is really forced as hell
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Mar 16, 2012 7:13 AM
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so how about that awesome Ayashu development in the most recent episode??

Man, i can't stop watching that scene! Ayase's really grown quite fond of him; so strong is the symbolism that she let him carry her bridal-style into the Endlave control mechanism... definitely writing a fanfic now
Mar 16, 2012 11:56 AM
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lol I do like Ayase, but Inori will always be my favorite. No one understood Shu quite like her, and she stood by him through *everything*...even in his ugliness. She was a nice shade of grey just like him. Ayase is too pure for me; I used to like that but she doesn't strike me as loyal as Inori is.
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ShadowOfThePast said:
so how about that awesome Ayashu development in the most recent episode??

Man, i can't stop watching that scene! Ayase's really grown quite fond of him; so strong is the symbolism that she let him carry her bridal-style into the Endlave control mechanism... definitely writing a fanfic now


I rather read a doujinshi or a spin-off... Fanfics are almost never worth the read
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Mar 16, 2012 2:54 PM
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ShuxInori all the way, ladies and gentlemen.
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Mar 16, 2012 6:28 PM

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amradio said:
Ayase is too pure for me; I used to like that but she doesn't strike me as loyal as Inori is.


Just to clarify, she was always on Shu's side. Tsugumi had to stop Ayase from being on his side at one point. It isn't too hard to ship them considering some of their scenes and banter.

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definitely writing a fanfic now


Give me the link once you finish it.
Mar 16, 2012 7:39 PM
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GodlyKyon said:

I rather read a doujinshi or a spin-off... Fanfics are almost never worth the read


Haha ouch, harsh but true. Most fan fictions I ever caught attention to weren't that great, but they definitely are fun to write.

Personally I thought in the beginning it would be Shu x Hare, but that's obviously not happening.

Kinda hoped it would end up Shu x Ayase to be honest, I could see those two together quite easily but I have a good feeling it's going to end with Shu x Inori of course.

Shows can never have the protagonist fall in love with one of the 'side' main characters can they? Always has to be the two mains together it seems, but if not Shu x Ayase, Inori is a very close 2nd in my preference.
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GuiltyKing said:
ShuxInori all the way, ladies and gentlemen.


Still do not quite like it :/ Too little development and too much of a forced encounter. It had me think whether Inori cared or not where she went in the first 17 episodes or so

Svard said:


Just to clarify, she was always on Shu's side. Tsugumi had to stop Ayase from being on his side at one point.


This comment is what i wanted to say

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GodlyKyon said:

I rather read a doujinshi or a spin-off... Fanfics are almost never worth the read


Haha ouch, harsh but true. Most fan fictions I ever caught attention to weren't that great, but they definitely are fun to write.

Personally I thought in the beginning it would be Shu x Hare, but that's obviously not happening.

Kinda hoped it would end up Shu x Ayase to be honest, I could see those two together quite easily but I have a good feeling it's going to end with Shu x Inori of course.

Shows can never have the protagonist fall in love with one of the 'side' main characters can they? Always has to be the two mains together it seems, but if not Shu x Ayase, Inori is a very close 2nd in my preference.


Right, I think I would've felt much better with Ayase as the main heroine. She isn't the "first heroine" but she always had a strong position in my point of view.

Anyways, if she gets Shu I would be VERY surprised, it would be the biggest troll since the existence of this show.

But anyways, there are actually a bit of shows that falls in love with the "side heroines"(those that are not the first girls)
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Mar 16, 2012 10:02 PM

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I think that Ayase should have had a bigger role in the show. It would have been better if she had been transfered into Shu's school as well as Inori. Or instead of Inori. But the writers had to force the Shu/Inori pairing.

Both Ayase and Hare tried to help Shu when things went bad. Both supported him and when they thought he was wrong, called him on it. Even slapping him. I find Ayase's and Hare's relationships with Shu to be more nature and more realistic then Shu's relationship with Inori.

This is why I really enjoyed the Ayase/Shu moments in Episode 21. I would have enjoyed them more if there had been a Hug and or a brief kiss. I half expected it when Ayase leaned towards Shu in the Endlave Control Room.
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Articman said:
I think that Ayase should have had a bigger role in the show. It would have been better if she had been transfered into Shu's school as well as Inori. Or instead of Inori. But the writers had to force the Shu/Inori pairing.

Both Ayase and Hare tried to help Shu when things went bad. Both supported him and when they thought he was wrong, called him on it. Even slapping him. I find Ayase's and Hare's relationships with Shu to be more nature and more realistic then Shu's relationship with Inori.

This is why I really enjoyed the Ayase/Shu moments in Episode 21. I would have enjoyed them more if there had been a Hug and or a brief kiss. I half expected it when Ayase leaned towards Shu in the Endlave Control Room.


I kind of expected that too, maybe just one on the cheek would've been fine.
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Jerichow said:

Shows can never have the protagonist fall in love with one of the 'side' main characters can they? Always has to be the two mains together it seems, but if not Shu x Ayase, Inori is a very close 2nd in my preference.


not really true, there are a small number of anime where the main gets the side character, a recent example would be mashiro iro symphony

but yea wanted ayase and shu too at first but i realize that shu and inori just belong together, they have always been side by side and helped each other when they were in trouble or emotionally hurt. i hate to admit it but ayase will remain single in this anime, but in a way it would be like how shu said, how she will remain pure, it just suits her character i suppose

if they do however pull a shuxayase ending i will be surprised as hell
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kamikaze_1996 said:
Jerichow said:

Shows can never have the protagonist fall in love with one of the 'side' main characters can they? Always has to be the two mains together it seems, but if not Shu x Ayase, Inori is a very close 2nd in my preference.


not really true, there are a small number of anime where the main gets the side character, a recent example would be mashiro iro symphony

but yea wanted ayase and shu too at first but i realize that shu and inori just belong together, they have always been side by side and helped each other when they were in trouble or emotionally hurt. i hate to admit it but ayase will remain single in this anime, but in a way it would be like how shu said, how she will remain pure, it just suits her character i suppose

if they do however pull a shuxayase ending i will be surprised as hell


so will I. But hey, you know what To Love-ru say? A king can have his concubines! Though in this case it might not turn out as well since there are only 2 heroines, maybe 3 if you include Mana. but how about add in Tsugumi and revive Hare to fill in the positions so they won't be divided?
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LMFAO!! XD but even if they somehow bring hare back, and make tsugumi or even haruka in love with him, it still wouldn't compare to the MASSIVE harem Rito has :D
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Yes... Rito's is ridiculous, but it STILL doesn't compare to Negi's 30-heroine empire, and more. But of course that failed, so I don't want To love-ru to go there :p
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Articman said:
I think that Ayase should have had a bigger role in the show. It would have been better if she had been transfered into Shu's school as well as Inori. Or instead of Inori. But the writers had to force the Shu/Inori pairing.


I find Ayase too be entirely one-dimensional, so I fail to see how she would be any different than Inori, or Hare, or any other female character really besides that class president chick. Even Inori has been shown to have more depth than Ayase, and thats saying a lot.

Also any pairing with Shu would be *forced* simply because Shu was despicable for 3/4 of the series. No one could find a single reason why Hare even liked him, why Inori put up with him, or anyone really. He was a jerk, selfish, and an entirely unlikeable guy. Its forced no matter who you throw at him.

Both Ayase and Hare tried to help Shu when things went bad. Both supported him and when they thought he was wrong, called him on it. Even slapping him. I find Ayase's and Hare's relationships with Shu to be more nature and more realistic then Shu's relationship with Inori.


Well thats just the thing, realistic is breakable. Neither Hare nor Ayase would really stick with or love the disgusting evil Shu. Like Hare said, thats not the Shu she loves. Its hard to say what Ayase would do since she was so minor during his fall, but I imagine she wouldn't love Shu the tyrant, nor support him. I have a hard time seeing her do the same thing Inori would. Who could really love and protect Shu the tyrant? Shu the tyrant is *still* Shu, as Jun said every person has a dark and ugly side to their heart. Realistically, ppl can't tolerate the dark ugly side of others..they dont and wont accept it. Hare doesn't love dark ugly Shu. Ayase probably doesn't, which is why she slapped him. inori is the only character who loves both, which is saying something. Thats a bond thats truly unbreakable, and love in its most idealized form.

No its not realistic, but its definitely the most complete and the most powerful. When it comes to "love," I wouldn't call realistic a good thing. Just look at the divorce rate. The greatest love in the world is usually found in:

religion/myth
poems
fiction
and mothers

There are rare cases where ppl can love like Inori and Shu do, but for the most part its entirely unrealistic. Thats what makes it so good though, the realistic version often blows and is way too fragile.

This is why I really enjoyed the Ayase/Shu moments in Episode 21. I would have enjoyed them more if there had been a Hug and or a brief kiss. I half expected it when Ayase leaned towards Shu in the Endlave Control Room.


I liked them too actually, mostly because of the way Ayase changed a bit. She opened up a lot for Shu, and I was happy her character grew like that. Can't say im a fan of the pairing, for the same reason im not a fan of ShuxHare, but I really like their interactions together. Can't stand Hare's interactions with Shu though, she comes on way too strong lol
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Yes... Rito's is ridiculous, but it STILL doesn't compare to Negi's 30-heroine empire, and more. But of course that failed, so I don't want To love-ru to go there :p


to be honest the ending of mahou sensei negima disappointed me....it didn't end with a proper harem, to love ru however wont disappoint me, everyone knows that it will end with Rito turning into a carnivore and end up ******* all the heroines, surprisingly its an ending im looking forward to XD
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kamikaze_1996 said:
GodlyKyon said:
Yes... Rito's is ridiculous, but it STILL doesn't compare to Negi's 30-heroine empire, and more. But of course that failed, so I don't want To love-ru to go there :p


to be honest the ending of mahou sensei negima disappointed me....it didn't end with a proper harem, to love ru however wont disappoint me, everyone knows that it will end with Rito turning into a carnivore and end up ******* all the heroines, surprisingly its an ending im looking forward to XD


hahaha, yes indeed, the author and artist both have balls to write that story... why is it wrong again?

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Articman said:
I think that Ayase should have had a bigger role in the show. It would have been better if she had been transfered into Shu's school as well as Inori. Or instead of Inori. But the writers had to force the Shu/Inori pairing.


I find Ayase too be entirely one-dimensional, so I fail to see how she would be any different than Inori, or Hare, or any other female character really besides that class president chick. Even Inori has been shown to have more depth than Ayase, and thats saying a lot.

Also any pairing with Shu would be *forced* simply because Shu was despicable for 3/4 of the series. No one could find a single reason why Hare even liked him, why Inori put up with him, or anyone really. He was a jerk, selfish, and an entirely unlikeable guy. Its forced no matter who you throw at him.

Both Ayase and Hare tried to help Shu when things went bad. Both supported him and when they thought he was wrong, called him on it. Even slapping him. I find Ayase's and Hare's relationships with Shu to be more nature and more realistic then Shu's relationship with Inori.


Well thats just the thing, realistic is breakable. Neither Hare nor Ayase would really stick with or love the disgusting evil Shu. Like Hare said, thats not the Shu she loves. Its hard to say what Ayase would do since she was so minor during his fall, but I imagine she wouldn't love Shu the tyrant, nor support him. I have a hard time seeing her do the same thing Inori would. Who could really love and protect Shu the tyrant? Shu the tyrant is *still* Shu, as Jun said every person has a dark and ugly side to their heart. Realistically, ppl can't tolerate the dark ugly side of others..they dont and wont accept it. Hare doesn't love dark ugly Shu. Ayase probably doesn't, which is why she slapped him. inori is the only character who loves both, which is saying something. Thats a bond thats truly unbreakable, and love in its most idealized form.

No its not realistic, but its definitely the most complete and the most powerful. When it comes to "love," I wouldn't call realistic a good thing. Just look at the divorce rate. The greatest love in the world is usually found in:

religion/myth
poems
fiction
and mothers

There are rare cases where ppl can love like Inori and Shu do, but for the most part its entirely unrealistic. Thats what makes it so good though, the realistic version often blows and is way too fragile.

This is why I really enjoyed the Ayase/Shu moments in Episode 21. I would have enjoyed them more if there had been a Hug and or a brief kiss. I half expected it when Ayase leaned towards Shu in the Endlave Control Room.


I liked them too actually, mostly because of the way Ayase changed a bit. She opened up a lot for Shu, and I was happy her character grew like that. Can't say im a fan of the pairing, for the same reason im not a fan of ShuxHare, but I really like their interactions together. Can't stand Hare's interactions with Shu though, she comes on way too strong lol


Shu is kind
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I think that Ayase should have had a bigger role in the show. It would have been better if she had been transfered into Shu's school as well as Inori. Or instead of Inori. But the writers had to force the Shu/Inori pairing.

I thought Ayase did have a bigger part than inori :o? well at least in this half of the series and in a few episodes in the first half she (seemed to) have more sppech, more actions and rival amounts of screentime (or was I just optimistic for Ayasexanyone shipping? :O?). she's definetley been one of the characters closer to the central plot, just never made the biggest impact on the story D:



I find Ayase too be entirely one-dimensional, so I fail to see how she would be any different than Inori, or Hare, or any other female character really besides that class president chick. Even Inori has been shown to have more depth than Ayase, and thats saying a lot.

Also any pairing with Shu would be *forced* simply because Shu was despicable for 3/4 of the series. No one could find a single reason why Hare even liked him, why Inori put up with him, or anyone really. He was a jerk, selfish, and an entirely unlikeable guy. Its forced no matter who you throw at him.
the first bit I totally disagree with (evidence: Ayase shows significantly more emotion than Inori and her character develops a bit better, or at least in a linear fashion), but then again I'm in favour of Ayase killing everyone and ruling the world to end the series ^^;
yeah point #2 is pretty much the gist I guess :/. pity that they never developed the full harem potential of the show, they were pretty much there with Haruka and then they found out she wasn't even his real mum?!
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Hare's interest in Shu was established from episode 1. Why she liked him, what she saw in him, doesn't need to be explained. It's that she did. And really, Shu wasn't that terrible of a person at the begining. Socially awkward and withdrawn, Yes. Evil, despicable.... NO. Hare was one of the first to see the changes in Shu, that he was coming out of his shell, becoming more Sociable, more involved with others.

Before episode 13, Ayase was given very little interaction with Shu, but in the time she had with him, she acted like a real person and treated Shu the same way. In episode 10, she could have gotten through to Shu, gotten Shu to open up to her. If Gai had given her the time. (So it fell on Hare to get him through his Heroic BSOD.) With time, she changed her opinion of Shu and they became close. Close enough that she asked him to help her into the Endlave Control Pod. A major change from who she was in episode 5, when they met face to face for the first time.

Shu changed with time and his relationships with those around him changed as well. Hare grew confident enough in her relationship with Shu to confess her feelings to him. And Ayase to trust and rely on Shu. Both of these relationships are more realisic and less forced then Shu/Inori ever will be. I like realistic relationships in my shows. Too much in the Shu/Inori relationship has been forced, glossed over and plain ignored. Like the confession/betrayal in episode 5. I really don't want a Shu/Inori ending to GC.
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Watcman: "One who fears the dark."

"And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction.

"Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be."

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hahaha, yes indeed, the author and artist both have balls to write that story... why is it wrong again?



i dont know............... :S
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Hare's interest in Shu was established from episode 1. Why she liked him, what she saw in him, doesn't need to be explained. It's that she did. And really, Shu wasn't that terrible of a person at the begining. Socially awkward and withdrawn, Yes. Evil, despicable.... NO. Hare was one of the first to see the changes in Shu, that he was coming out of his shell, becoming more Sociable, more involved with others.

Before episode 13, Ayase was given very little interaction with Shu, but in the time she had with him, she acted like a real person and treated Shu the same way. In episode 10, she could have gotten through to Shu, gotten Shu to open up to her. If Gai had given her the time. (So it fell on Hare to get him through his Heroic BSOD.) With time, she changed her opinion of Shu and they became close. Close enough that she asked him to help her into the Endlave Control Pod. A major change from who she was in episode 5, when they met face to face for the first time.

Shu changed with time and his relationships with those around him changed as well. Hare grew confident enough in her relationship with Shu to confess her feelings to him. And Ayase to trust and rely on Shu. Both of these relationships are more realisic and less forced then Shu/Inori ever will be. I like realistic relationships in my shows. Too much in the Shu/Inori relationship has been forced, glossed over and plain ignored. Like the confession/betrayal in episode 5. I really don't want a Shu/Inori ending to GC.


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Articman said:
Hare's interest in Shu was established from episode 1. Why she liked him, what she saw in him, doesn't need to be explained. It's that she did. And really, Shu wasn't that terrible of a person at the begining. Socially awkward and withdrawn, Yes. Evil, despicable.... NO. Hare was one of the first to see the changes in Shu, that he was coming out of his shell, becoming more Sociable, more involved with others.


So was Inori's after he met her..I fail to see the difference. And Shu was despicable..socially awkward and withdrawn doesn't even come close to describing it. He was selfish, apathetic, and not very considerate of other ppl's feelings. Why do you think he despised himself so much? Let's not make excuses for the guy lol..he was *not* likeable.

Before episode 13, Ayase was given very little interaction with Shu, but in the time she had with him, she acted like a real person and treated Shu the same way. In episode 10, she could have gotten through to Shu, gotten Shu to open up to her. If Gai had given her the time. (So it fell on Hare to get him through his Heroic BSOD.) With time, she changed her opinion of Shu and they became close. Close enough that she asked him to help her into the Endlave Control Pod. A major change from who she was in episode 5, when they met face to face for the first time.


Ayase's development with Shu was entirely limited to his heroics. I don't find that to be much of a healthy dynamic. They never really connected on a deep level when Shu was a tyrant. She slapped him, sure, but that was it. There was no deep exchange with Shu confessing all his insecurities. Inori at least had that much going for her.

Shu changed with time and his relationships with those around him changed as well. Hare grew confident enough in her relationship with Shu to confess her feelings to him.


Which never made much sense, since Shu spent most of his time away from her. Her sudden boost of confidence was entirely random and not sufficiently developed.

And Ayase to trust and rely on Shu. Both of these relationships are more realisic and less forced then Shu/Inori ever will be. I like realistic relationships in my shows. Too much in the Shu/Inori relationship has been forced, glossed over and plain ignored. Like the confession/betrayal in episode 5. I really don't want a Shu/Inori ending to GC.


I fail to see what makes Shu/Inori so forced other than you don't like it. Shu had his eyes on Inori from the moment he saw her. Inori seemed to like him well enough from when they first met. Thats not "forced" thats instant mutual affection. If you don't like it fine, but calling it forced is pretty erroneous. Especially considering that it had more development than Hare/Ayase combined.

Inori brought out Shu's protective instincts. Inori listened to Shu's insecurities. Inori accepted those insecurities. Inori fought tooth and nail to protect him, even when everyone else basically said "peace". Inori turned Shu into a man. It was a typical lead couple relationship...I fail to see how its forced. If anything, its just cliche.

Thats not even mentioning what Shu did for Inori. I could go on but you saw the show. And honestly a lot of things have been glossed over in regards to Shu's relationships. We still dont know why Hare liked Shu, or why Ayase suddenly decided it was okay for Shu to help her, or why Hare completely forgot about Shu forcing himself on her within minutes, or how Shu even looked at Hare (kinda a biggie), etc.

I get you dislike Shu/Inori, but I fail to see how either Hare or Ayase are better objectively speaking. Both girls had far less development with Shu, and Shu did not show near as much interest in either of them as he did with Inori. Shu was a totally different man with her, and this was evident from episode 1. I find the 'forced' argument entirely unfounded.
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The Shu/Inori relationship is forced. After all, there was no real consequences to Inori's Betrayal/Confession in episode 5. Everything was simply sweeped away and forgotten. No, apology, No Remorse, For the lies and Manipulations used to bring Shu into Funeral Parlour. Had there been something like this, it would have gone a long way to dispelling the Shu/Inori being forced arguments.

Inori did not make Shu a man. She and the others helped Shu come out of his shell, show him that he could be, Better then he was. Allowing him to Man up, to become who he is now.
Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?"

Watcman: "One who fears the dark."

"And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction.

"Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be."

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Articman said:
The Shu/Inori relationship is forced. After all, there was no real consequences to Inori's Betrayal/Confession in episode 5. Everything was simply sweeped away and forgotten. No, apology, No Remorse, For the lies and Manipulations used to bring Shu into Funeral Parlour. Had there been something like this, it would have gone a long way to dispelling the Shu/Inori being forced arguments.

Inori did not make Shu a man. She and the others helped Shu come out of his shell, show him that he could be, Better then he was. Allowing him to Man up, to become who he is now.


I will agree and disagree - I think the 'forced' argument is a little void in this case, as Amradio makes some very good points.

However I will definitely agree with you on the absolute pile of crap Ep 5 was; after Inori flat out says she only got close to him because she was ordered to, I expected Shu to have a much more 'screw you' attitude or at least alienate her *a little* - instead he just got pissy for a few minutes, acted like he was hurt, and suddenly everything was sunshine and rainbows in Ep 6. Hell even I was shocked after watching her go into Gai's room the way she did; not sure about anyone else but I got the vibe she wasn't going in there to do a blood transplant...

Not dragging that issue out, in my opinion is one of the worst mistakes this show could have made, especially after Ep 4 when he asked her, "Can I trust you?" and she responds by letting him use her void, essentially a 'yes' without words.

Frankly, if they drug out the 'hurt' on Shu for at least another episode, or made it apparent that Inori could see that pain in him it would have been better. If they showed his pain in means like him refusing to use Inori's void, and finding another way of accomplishing the objective then that would have been infinitely better overall. But as said before, it seemed to be simply swept away where as it should have been focused on.
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The Shu/Inori relationship is forced. After all, there was no real consequences to Inori's Betrayal/Confession in episode 5. Everything was simply sweeped away and forgotten. No, apology, No Remorse, For the lies and Manipulations used to bring Shu into Funeral Parlour. Had there been something like this, it would have gone a long way to dispelling the Shu/Inori being forced arguments.

Inori did not make Shu a man. She and the others helped Shu come out of his shell, show him that he could be, Better then he was. Allowing him to Man up, to become who he is now.


I will agree and disagree - I think the 'forced' argument is a little void in this case, as Amradio makes some very good points.

However I will definitely agree with you on the absolute pile of crap Ep 5 was; after Inori flat out says she only got close to him because she was ordered to, I expected Shu to have a much more 'screw you' attitude or at least alienate her *a little* - instead he just got pissy for a few minutes, acted like he was hurt, and suddenly everything was sunshine and rainbows in Ep 6. Hell even I was shocked after watching her go into Gai's room the way she did; not sure about anyone else but I got the vibe she wasn't going in there to do a blood transplant...

Not dragging that issue out, in my opinion is one of the worst mistakes this show could have made, especially after Ep 4 when he asked her, "Can I trust you?" and she responds by letting him use her void, essentially a 'yes' without words.

Frankly, if they drug out the 'hurt' on Shu for at least another episode, or made it apparent that Inori could see that pain in him it would have been better. If they showed his pain in means like him refusing to use Inori's void, and finding another way of accomplishing the objective then that would have been infinitely better overall. But as said before, it seemed to be simply swept away where as it should have been focused on.


The events of Episode 5 are merely part of it. The most blatant example of the relationship being forced. The relationship is still being pushed on us even after the revelation of episode 12, that Inori is a clone of Shu's sister, Mana. Not just that, but she's connected to Mana, telepathicly. Raising the question of how much of Inori's personality and emotions are truly hers alone and not Mana reaching out, through Inori, to Shu. We have yet to see Shu consider these questions and how they impact his relationship with Inori.
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Shu and Inori. I really don't like Ayase. -.-
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I prefer Shu and Inori BUT damn...Ayase is hot so that's why I vote Shu and Ayase.
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Hare, Inori and Ayase, now that would make a good hentai :D


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I added a new option! ~~
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I added a new option! ~~
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Hare, Inori and Ayase, now that would make a good hentai :D


oh yea!!! harem ending FTW! xDDDD
Mar 22, 2012 2:34 AM

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I'd vote for a Shu x Inori + Tsugumi pairing :D 2 girls at one time. harem ftw.
Mar 22, 2012 9:40 AM

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lol i forgot about tsugumi, lets add her in xD

i would say that hare and tsugumi are cute, inori is hot but ayase is hotter :D
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Shu and Ayase, but also Daryl and Tsugumi
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My first time watching GC, i was shipping Shu and Inori and now i'm having conflicted feelings on the matter, while i do like the Shu and Inori pairing......The moments between Shu and Ayase are inexplicably amazing i thought, they didn't get much screen time together sadly, but when they did it shown brightly, their chemistry together is simply too much to ignore imo.
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On the ShuX__ pairings Ayase is the only one to survive.


Spoiler tags....Thanks.
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Huh? That's not true at all
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Inori's dead and Gai's dead.

Ayase is gonna bone Shu, because she realizes that he's better than Gai. That and they are both Yamaku Academy student candidates ;).

Which is weird to me, Shu gets a biotic arm upgrade after all this, and Ayase is STILL in a wheelchair although she loves her megaman style leg boosters.
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Inori's dead and Gai's dead.

Ayase is gonna bone Shu, because she realizes that he's better than Gai. That and they are both Yamaku Academy student candidates ;).

Which is weird to me, Shu gets a biotic arm upgrade after all this, and Ayase is STILL in a wheelchair although she loves her megaman style leg boosters.


shouldn't she be over 17 now?

... WHAT BULLSHIT!!!
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DARYL AND TSUGUMI ARE MY LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!! T____________T
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