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Jun 15, 2007 7:22 AM
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Maybe it depends on the resolution, I will judge again when I'm on my PC and not on the weaker one at home.

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ah yah.. probably ^_^ . I'm using 1280x800.
Jun 15, 2007 8:01 AM

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It does depend on the resolution...I use 1024x768 because 1280x1024 hurts my eyes >_> although most pages are designed around 1024x768 resolution, so it's usually not a problem.
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Kayrhandros said:
Anyway looks good Ceray. You should probably increase the quality on those banners. There's a lot of seeable crystals there. Other than that looks good :)


*coughs* ^^; Sorry 'bout the scroll bar, I'm still learning, ya?

Yeah, I used normal paint to make them, since I don't really have anything else (well, there's one picture editor but I can't put in text with it).
Jun 15, 2007 5:28 PM

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I'm on 1280x1024 and I get a scroll bar also. Regardless the list still looks nice. I love the Kira one also

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*bites the scrollbar* Why don't I see yooou?
Jun 16, 2007 12:44 AM
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Ceray said:
*bites the scrollbar* Why don't I see yooou?

Biting invisible things? :D That's my Imouto-chan~ ^^

You'll find it out soon, and I have to wait another 7 hours until I can check it on my PC.

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IE sometimes shows a scrollbar even if it's not nessesary..

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Jun 16, 2007 1:06 AM
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I'm not on IE and this scrollbar was necessay since I only saw the background, and had to scroll to the right to see the list. I'm on 1152x864 on this PC which ain't mine. :)

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Well, let's start listing browsers/OS and maybe we can draw a conclusion from there :D I run Firefox on and Mac. I also checked it in Safari, and I still has scrollbar. :b
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Okay since Scrummy complained about some scrolling and stuff i decided to edit my list design by adding an other wallpaper and adjust the list to the left along with the list headers. What do you think, i'm only thinking about the link and the table colors now, should i change or should i keep it as it is now.

For the lazy bastards: http://cheesebaron.myanimelist.net/
Jun 16, 2007 9:48 AM
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Well, I'm back on my PC. I checked it in Firefox @ 1280x1024 and the scrollbar is still there. :|

@Cheese:
I didn't see anything to scroll on your last list design and I actually liked it better than your new one but it's cool, too.

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Well it was mainly people with resolutions that had a width of less than 1000, so i guess you weren't touched by it.
Jun 16, 2007 11:57 AM

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Talon List shuffle Style~

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Sure is a heavy list, even I can see a little lag. :D

But it looks pretty sweet, Shuffle! is great. Nice job once again, Talon!

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Cool list, but its really heavy, it lags very much on my computer :(
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any of you taking orders ? I want a new look to mine but I don't wanna try to do it myself, and some of you seem pretty pro as it is :-P

Xinil always yells at me cause I just set mine to copy his style and I've never changed it since.
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Whee~ I like the new style Mr. Cheese-head, and Talon's is pretty too.

...I give up on fixing the scrollbar. *ka-stabs self* ...I'll mess with it later... Or attempt to.

Aaand... I'd like to help... But... I sorta suck at it still. ^^;
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Lag and IE problems (IE is the problem anyway >_>') should be solved.
not much load because I switched the png's (total 1.81mb) with jpg's (total 268kb)

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Talon said:
Lag and IE problems (IE is the problem anyway >_>') should be solved.
not much load because I switched the png's (total 1.81mb) with jpg's (total 268kb)


Oh wow, couldnt the PNG get compressed some more? Or do you use HUGE resolution PNG files?
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I had to go with PNG if I'd want to take the Alpha's with it, and compressed PNG doesn't support alpha very well.
that's the different between PNG-8 and PNG-24.

ah anyway, Jpeg does it now right so it doesn't cares.

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Good updated Talon, great job once again!

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Oooh.. that's really nice Talon. :D :D
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Cheesebaron--thanks much! It looks great XD And I like the fact that I didn't have to scroll around to see it =) thank you.

Talon--I like it, but the table backgrounds kind of clash with the page background, in my opinion.

Koreth--I take art commissions, if you want a completely original design :P although I don't have an example of a list yet.
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updated mine, still have some issues to fix. i think the color scheme and the wallpaper are not matching. need a bloodly wallpaper.


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I'm not sure how many have seen, but I updated mine just the other day. Same with my sig/avatar set.


It's a Suikoden theme. ^_^
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I've seen that layout before. :P

But it looks nice. :)

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alright im finally done, here ya go


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Ah! I love Talon's list! <3

ahh, too many good lists... What one shall I nominate for the next award!

And Darkvoltage, I like the list but the print is too small, I think.. I don't know, but it makes it a bit hard to read.. Maybe I am just a bit blind, xP Awesome list design though.
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yes, I like your list too, DV, but your font size is a wee bit too small. See if you can increase it by just one little point, thank you.
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If you guys are using Firefox, you can set a size for the 'smallest font size displayed' and increase it yourself.

Looks perfectly fine to me, good work DV! I like the color scheme. :D

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DV I only think you need to increase the font size. 'coz in it's difficult to read. Other than that it's good.
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cyruz said:
If you guys are using Firefox, you can set a size for the 'smallest font size displayed' and increase it yourself.

Looks perfectly fine to me, good work DV! I like the color scheme. :D


See. The whole point to web design, and even designing itself, is that we shouldn't have to do it ourselves. It's an unwritten rule of design.
Jun 20, 2007 4:45 AM

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Here goes my list
Jun 20, 2007 8:29 AM

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ShinoFuji said:

See. The whole point to web design, and even designing itself, is that we shouldn't have to do it ourselves. It's an unwritten rule of design.

/agreed

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Here goes my list


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Jun 21, 2007 9:15 AM

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Hello~
I had some fun designing lists for my friends and myself but I'll warn you that these designs were made for the owners, and not for the watchers... that's why it can be unfitted to your resolution (is that even english Oo?)
Here I go:
- Darki s list
- Toulal s list
- Kupo s list

They should fit on1280x1024, except Kupo's, which was made for 1600x1200 T_T
If you have a problem (and I saw that some of you have a small resolution), screenshots here:

(I said Kupo is on 1600x1200, well this screenshot is what it looked like first, before I knew what his resolution was. So he modified it himself to fit on his screen.)
And I'll repeat... these designs were made to please the owners, not the watchers~)
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Very nice lists, Lain ftw. The one you made for Darki is my fave. Good work!

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Nice work Toulal. I love the designs especially the Blood+ and Haibane Renmei ones.

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Toulal said:
Hello~
I had some fun designing lists for my friends and myself but I'll warn you that these designs were made for the owners, and not for the watchers... that's why it can be unfitted to your resolution (is that even english Oo?)
Here I go:
- Darki s list
- Toulal s list
- Kupo s list

They should fit on1280x1024, except Kupo's, which was made for 1600x1200 T_T
If you have a problem (and I saw that some of you have a small resolution), screenshots here:

(I said Kupo is on 1600x1200, well this screenshot is what it looked like first, before I knew what his resolution was. So he modified it himself to fit on his screen.)
And I'll repeat... these designs were made to please the owners, not the watchers~)


Well, those look beautiful in the thumbnails XD but when I load them they look all wonky. Darki's isn't so bad, although the character on the right is cut off. Your own list looks absolutely awful on my screen--the only part of the haibane you can see are the wings and halo, and for some reason it splits the page and gives it a scroll-bar o__O Here's a screenshot. Kupo's list looks okay, but the tables cover up the picture of Lain.

Keep in mind, these are not criticisms of your work--I see from the thumbnails that they look wonderful on your screen. I'm just letting you know about the problems that I'm having viewing them.
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That's just because your screen resolution is a bit lower. :)

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cyruz said:
That's just because your screen resolution is a bit lower. :)


And one of the goals of web design is to be as compatible with as many users as possible. More users on this site use 1024x768 than any other resolution (information gleaned from here), so it would be in a list designer's best interest to work around that resolution.

When I finally get around to designing my list, it will be compatible with 1024x768 and up (looking good at that size and above).
Jun 22, 2007 10:44 AM
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Heh, I know.

Making it compatible for 1024 and above is easier than making it compatible for lets say 1280 and below though.

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cyruz said:
Heh, I know.

Making it compatible for 1024 and above is easier than making it compatible for lets say 1280 and below though.


So that's how they should work. Designers have to start at the bottom and work their way up (whether you're talking about screen resolutions, browsers, etc). Anybody who can run a higher res can also run 1024x768 while they're designing =) I don't know how widescreens work, though (as in, whether or not you can view non-widescreen resolutions).
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Yeah, I agree. However, the possibility to customize your list was there before we had these competitions. So back then, tbh, I only cared if my list looks good to me.

But yeah, if lists are made for this competition those points should at least be considered. :)

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Toulal said:
[...] but I'll warn you that these designs were made for the owners, and not for the watchers...
[...] And I'll repeat... these designs were made to please the owners, not the watchers~)

That's all.
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But if you use a MAL signature that links to your list, link to your list anywhere else online/in the forums, submit the design for a competition, or expect anyone on this website to look at it (since this is a social networking site that revolves around anime, you can expect people to be looking at it), then the design should accommodate as many users as possible.

You are sharing your designs, so I assumed you wanted feedback on them.

Part of what makes a design "good" is its ability to be viewed by as many users as possible. Selectively designing to a resolution or browser is poor design work. If we ever started rating list designs on MAL, users who selectively design would lose points from me. In the same way, it doesn't matter how a design is "supposed" to look; if I can't view it properly, then I am not going to give it good feedback.
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That's not my problem, I think...
My friends and I created accounts to share our lists between us and we are not disturbed by lower resolutions problems...
I do not use anything that links to my list, I do not have the intention to present these designs to any competition, and the only persons expected to look at it do not have any problem. I did added screenshots (it's not only thumbnails, see ? You can click on it...) to help you see how it should look, just in case you have a low resolution... but I don't really care if you can't see it properly without a screenshot...
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Yeah, I got all that XD However, I think the purpose of this thread was to share and get feedback on designs. So why did you even bother? :B
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Because I said I had some fun designing 8)
And when I'm happy, I share even with people who don't like my way of designing x_x
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Because I said I had some fun designing 8)
And when I'm happy, I share even with people who don't like my way of designing x_x


<=( don't let me discourage you; I do like the designs, they look great (on the right screen), I just don't see the point in sharing them when half the users can't even see it. X)!

Please, just ignore me and carry on. XD
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