| So it's out on MS's site. It was nothing, really. We learned that the antogonist of the movie needs Ichigonator to open the gate of hell, and that's it. Could've been wrapped up in two pages, but oh well, it was an extra chapter after all. |
viral_hunNov 25, 2010 11:17 AM
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| Meh. What I didnt quite understand in the Bleach world is how spirits are already dead (in Soul Society) and hollows are just evil spirits etcetc. If the spirits die, then they go to hell? *-* |
| Interesting. This will be the first time Hell is elaborated on in the Bleachverse. |
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| another Aizen-face villain. anyway OK chapter. so we are expected to see everyone but Aizen here? since they all are dead -_- |
smokes said: another Aizen-face villain. anyway OK chapter. so we are expected to see everyone but Aizen here? since they all are dead -_- That's what I thought. Maybe it's Aizen's brother? Who knows. And of course he's the one running the show. Yippee. Another God Aizen. Not a bad chapter. Be interesting to see the movie. |
| I reject your reality, and substitute my own. |
| Looking forward for seeing Grimj and Ulq in the film. Although we already knew from the trailer i'm glad to see the film will center around Ichi's Vasto Lorde transformation. |
fuck everything and rumble |
| Well it seems that maybe the movie will be actually something good |
| Yeah, it was an OK chapter, but the movie seems to be interesting. |
dvd-video said: Meh. What I didnt quite understand in the Bleach world is how spirits are already dead (in Soul Society) and hollows are just evil spirits etcetc. If the spirits die, then they go to hell? *-* Yes, pretty much. Dying isn't so much the end as "stop existing" is. |
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| Well this doesn't make any sense. I thought if hollows of any kind, including espada, if killed by a soul reaper, their souls are cleansed. But also from the early chapters of bleach, we learn if a hollow is killed, and during their lifetime they were bad (ig. murderer) they are sent to hell and their souls are not cleansed. Does it mean that living as an espada is considered a life which is to be judged? That means all espada should be in hell. Its weird how we didn't see hell gates open when Syazel and aaroniero were killed. |
| Well, the gates won't open, as stated by the first page. |
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| Well Kubo has shown us they open to accept those going to hell. But does that line mean they don't open for the inhabitants or at all.. |
| I think looking for reason in the Bleach universe is a waste of time :) Also, I was looking forward to this until I found out that (of course) this movie revolves around Ichigo -.-* |
| I hate Bleach and Naruto movies but according to the Hell Arc Special the movie number 4 will be something else...let´s hope something much better. Well, at least it seems promising to me. |
| Well....its interesting to say the least....I think. Hopefully the movie is good :x |
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| boring 21 pages filled with nothing... |
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| Aizen's back. Why do I have a feeling that this is gonna be another rescue someone movie? |
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Jesuvius said: I think looking for reason in the Bleach universe is a waste of time :) Also, I was looking forward to this until I found out that (of course) this movie revolves around Ichigo -.-* I'm rather confused as to how it'll fit into the bleach timeline too... It won't, but nevermind. I'm just depressed that Tite is leaving such potential to a movie, why couldn't we have an in depth arc in the manga? |
| ^nooo, a movie its better than 1 year of this arc =) (you know the manga pace) |
| Szayel is back, yay! It is pretty lame: when one dies, there is Soul Society or Hueco Mundo. After that there is also a Hell. What's next; Heaven Arc? Also: I thought that when a shinigami (spirit) dies, he would become spirit particles? You know, the building blocks of Soul Society? |
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| Szayel is back, yay! It is pretty lame: when one dies, there is Soul Society or Hueco Mundo. After that there is also a Hell. What's next; Heaven Arc? |
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smokes said: ^nooo, a movie its better than 1 year of this arc =) (you know the manga pace) It could've had something to do with Ichigo regaining powers, I'd rather an in depth arc exploring hell and it's inhabitants than a filler movie that I won't be watching. |
Captain-Z said: Shyster said: Interesting. This will be the first time Hell is elaborated on in the Bleachverse. ITS ABOUT FUCKING TIME HELL I thought Kube forgot he ever put hell in beach to begin with. I always thought Bleach *was* hell! :P |
| I was still hoping Grimmjow was still somehow alive .... dash my hopes. I guess only the shinigami live on in bleach. still even if they are "dead" seeing the espada again is nice. |
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| I think it's gonna be an interesting movie. And btw,  Isn't that Kenpachi? |
| Definitely seems more interesting than the actual main story. |
| Protip: I don't really check the forums anymore, so if you want something, take it on my profile. Is it time for my long-awaited return to the forums? щ(ﾟДﾟщ) Nope™, probably not. |
-Hysteria- said: Yeah. And one of them also looks like that fat dude in the Vizards with the same powers as Inoue. And the main one is an Aizen look-a-like =_=And btw, Isn't that Kenpachi? Much better than the current arc of the manga. But still not enough to get my interest. I'll pass on the movie. |
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smokes said: another Aizen-face villain. anyway OK chapter. so we are expected to see everyone but Aizen here? since they all are dead -_- dude! he looked like every single bleach character except aizen! and you shouldn't probably expect to see grimmjow and yami. mystik said: I was still hoping Grimmjow was still somehow alive .... dash my hopes. I guess only the shinigami live on in bleach. still even if they are "dead" seeing the espada again is nice. what made you think that grimmjow is dead? he wasn't in hell! at least we don't know that yet! BakaKawaii said: yeah, that's what i thought too! actually i'm hoping that this is only an introduction to hell and we're going to see it later in the manga (by later i mean 2 years.)smokes said: ^nooo, a movie its better than 1 year of this arc =) (you know the manga pace) It could've had something to do with Ichigo regaining powers, I'd rather an in depth arc exploring hell and it's inhabitants than a filler movie that I won't be watching. anyway, it was a nice change of pace ad i'm expecting to see something great in the movie. i'm wondering if tousen is in hell too! |
wintercrush said: Well this doesn't make any sense. I thought if hollows of any kind, including espada, if killed by a soul reaper, their souls are cleansed. But also from the early chapters of bleach, we learn if a hollow is killed, and during their lifetime they were bad (ig. murderer) they are sent to hell and their souls are not cleansed. Does it mean that living as an espada is considered a life which is to be judged? That means all espada should be in hell. Its weird how we didn't see hell gates open when Syazel and aaroniero were killed. maybe Szayel and Aaroniero were baddies when they were alive too. |
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| can't w8 for the episode. |
belatkuro said: The fat Vizard you're talking about specialises in kidou, which is completely unrelated to her powers. All known things Orihime can do are her shield, sending Tsubaki to attack and her healing bubble, which is actually an event-rejecting bubble.And one of them also looks like that fat dude in the Vizards with the same powers as Inoue. |
| It started off kind of interestingly, but then it faded into crap about Hax!Ichigo. Also the espada going to hell in the first place makes little sense... I'll still watch it because the animation will probably be awesome, but I'm not holding my breath for amazing content. |
wintercrush said: Well Kubo has shown us they open to accept those going to hell. But does that line mean they don't open for the inhabitants or at all.. I was implying something is wrong with the gates, and that's why they won't open. Rizzle said: It started off kind of interestingly, but then it faded into crap about Hax!Ichigo. Also the espada going to hell in the first place makes little sense... They're explaining Hax!Ichigo. Y'know, the one thing everyone bitched about, the form coming out of nowhere? And there are plenty of reasons why they went to Hell. They sinned while, they obviously sinned while they were Arrancars, etc. |
Massive_Addict_BNov 29, 2010 10:43 AM
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| I thought it was interesting.... Now we know that Grimmjow is "Probably" still alive....Maybe... |
| Where are you people getting the Grimmjow hints from? We don't know if he's dead cause he wasn't in hell, but just because he wasn't in hell doesn't mean he's alive either |
| alright I just want to voice my opinion on the hell thing based on my observation alone, not through a trusted thorough research, would like to apologize first hand if it conflicts with any of your opinions. So clearly as some of us believe, when you die its either heaven or hell and there are special cases like wandering spirits so when I come up with a deduction on bleach definition of heaven, hell and spirits it is quite reasonable to suggest that the bleach universe is separated by levels. There is earth for the living, soul society and hueco muendo for hollows, arrancar and espadas then there is heaven and hell. Lets say heaven is on top and hell is down below and that soul society and hueco muendo is in the middle with the living world in between so when you look at it that way it is not too complicated, I think :p the allocation of spirits is based on judgment perhaps? is it fair to say that it is the judgment of God? or a natural system that just exist in the universe? I really don't want to upset anyone here so I am trying to be extra cautious :p so like from all the episodes I have watched, it seems that spirits will either end up in soul society or in hueco muendo based on the chain of fate attached to the spirits, if soul burial were performed before it corrodes, welcome to soul society if not then you are a hollow (which contradicts the judgment part I mentioned earlier :s) but then does that mean even criminals deserves to be in soul society? that question was answered of course as i found out that soul society is very much a country with a government like any other on earth, not exactly cool I know, so there are notorious regions with high crime rates (example, the region where kenpachi comes from) and there is the main city which is controlled and stable. oh and one more thing, there is one episode, can't remember which one but it was when the hollow was a serious criminal and was sent to hell when it was killed again, so here is the part I don't really understand as well, so as a spirit you can still die, its like you are dead in the living world but as a spirit you live on but will still die and you can even start a family! and have lovely children! :D oh wow and when you die you will become spirit particles that makes up soul society which kinda compliments the law of conservation of energy, energy cant be created nor destroyed, it can only be transformed from one state to another, but what about hollows? I may have missed that part along the way but so when they die do they all go to hell? or become a part of hueco muendo? I think I can accept the hell part as hollows are lower form of spirits which is not exactly sane anymore and if you die as one the lowest you can go after that is hell I suppose? I guess soul society and hueco muendo are like preliminary stages to heaven and hell, as we know residents of soul society can be inducted into heaven and if you are a terrible human being turned hollow and is killed as one you will end up in hell or if you are a hollow and died you will end up there anyways. there are still too many vague information on the bleach universe, but you kinda get the impression along the way, its not the best constructed universe but I personally accept it as decent one...I've been following it for 3 years I cannot stop now :s |
| What I understand is: Normal spirits exorcised by shinigami go to SS. (heaven, but not your typical pearly gates, everyone's happy, yaaaaaaay heaven) Spirits that refuse to be exorcised / don't have the chance to, then are eaten by hollow / negative emotions etc = Hollow and HM. Hollow that were "decent" in life, that are killed by shinigami are cleansed and sent to SS. Hollow that have committed grave sins in life that are killed by shinigami are sent to hell. Then the whole quincy killing hollow and removing the spirits from existence. And the whole king's dimension, separate from the others. |
BakaKawaii said: What I understand is: Normal spirits exorcised by shinigami go to SS. (heaven, but not your typical pearly gates, everyone's happy, yaaaaaaay heaven) Spirits that refuse to be exorcised / don't have the chance to, then are eaten by hollow / negative emotions etc = Hollow and HM. Hollow that were "decent" in life, that are killed by shinigami are cleansed and sent to SS. Hollow that have committed grave sins in life that are killed by shinigami are sent to hell. Then the whole quincy killing hollow and removing the spirits from existence. And the whole king's dimension, separate from the others. In other words nobody dies ever It's an unending cycle. |
| It's a shame that this isn't canoon since IT NEVER HAPPENED. |
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KantonKageX said: In other words nobody dies ever It's an unending cycle. Well like someone else pointed out, its like the theory that energy cannot be created or destroyed. |
wintercrush said: Well like someone else pointed out, its like the theory that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Minus the whole quincy deal: destroying the hollow without cleansing it, thus destroying the balance and the energy. Sadly Tite will never develop or try to make sense of the afterlife in bleach. |
BakaKawaii said: At least we know why they were basically "killed off".wintercrush said: Well like someone else pointed out, its like the theory that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Minus the whole quincy deal: destroying the hollow without cleansing it, thus destroying the balance and the energy. Sadly Tite will never develop or try to make sense of the afterlife in bleach. |
KantonKageXNov 30, 2010 7:37 PM
| So espada can be brought back in crappy filler :3 |
| I liked how espada was there. =] But the bad guys always look very cartoonish. =[ They look like a trash filler characters. lol The villains will again use some crappy fire skills that are so not unique. Characters doesn't even look like demons. I hoped for that giant purple demon to appear. The demon that appeared when the hell gate first opened in the main bleach anime. |
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