| Recently I wrote a pretty lengthy blogpost, and in a certain part I've said this: As I wrote in Is "being an otaku" more about the mentality, watching a lot of anime rather coming as a consequence of that?, there was a certain process of "assimilation" in there: You would get into the community, would find certain things "weird" at first, but with time would see that those "are actually pretty fine". In part I was talking about my experience, and the one of many people I've seen.I don't know why that happened, just that it happened, like someone who does something without knowing the science behind it... which makes it very hard to "replicate at will" when you need it, and that became part of the problem However, I do know that there are certain people in which that's not the case, and I don't understand why it happens to some and not to others. So, how does the assimilation into the anime community work? |
| Survivorship bias. Anyone who doesn't assimilate (i.e. has actual sense) stays out of specific anime communities like MAL Anime Discussion and talks about anime in their own niche subcommunities instead. To assimilate is to effectively be terminally online. You can even see this in MAL itself. Forum Games has a lot more female users because that part of the site is less tolerant of the misogyny and bigotry that infests Anime Discussion. |
thewiru said: I don't understand why it happens to some and not to others. becoming part of an anime "community?" some people aren't so hyper-socialized they view anime as just another means to connect with others, blame it on neurodiversity or whatever if you start doing anything just to fit in with a crowd, you're an idiot you're even dumber if you start believing your own bullshit and actually liking the thing you were only imitating |
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Survivorship bias. Anyone who doesn't assimilate (i.e. has actual sense) stays out of specific anime communities like MAL Anime Discussion and talks about anime in their own niche subcommunities instead. To assimilate is to effectively be terminally online.
You can even see this in MAL itself. Forum Games has a lot more female users because that part of the site is less tolerant of the misogyny and bigotry that infests Anime Discussion.
You can even see this in MAL itself. Forum Games has a lot more female users because that part of the site is less tolerant of the misogyny and bigotry that infests Anime Discussion.
| @MelodyOfMemory Uhm, that's kinda true, and we should try to solve that problem. What can I do to help? |
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@MelodyOfMemory
Uhm, that's kinda true, and we should try to solve that problem.
What can I do to help?
Uhm, that's kinda true, and we should try to solve that problem.
What can I do to help?
| @thewiru Well, there are certain Forum Games like "Do you like the person above you?", "Give the user above an enemy from MAL," and "Would you murder the user above you?" that have your name on them. |
| Seems impossible, because the anime community is just a comm without unity. |
No, this isn't my signature. |
| Seems like basic social interaction to me. People get used to stuff as they get exposed to it. And it's easier when others around them say it's okay and not weird. Basic conditioning |
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| I think it's normalization by proximity. Even some of the tamest anime still tend to have a little bit of fan service. So even if at first you are bothered by ecchi anime, you are still being exposed to elements of it in the anime that you do enjoy. Then subconsciously your brains links those elements to a positive opinion. So next time you see an ecchi, you'll think it's a little less weird, until you become fully desensitized. |
| Its simple. The bigger the ass you are, the easier it is to assimulate. LOL |
joemaamah said: Its simple. The bigger the ass you are, the easier it is to assimulate. LOL lol That's like the qualifications to be accepted into some shit like 4chan. lol |
ColourWheelSep 19, 10:17 PM
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| I mean there is no one anime community, if you want to be a part of online communities just jump in. If you want Irl stuff, go to conventions and just jump right in. But at the end of the day just like what you like, you don't have to be in a community if you want to like something |
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Its simple. The bigger the ass you are, the easier it is to assimulate. LOL
| @joemaamah Sadly I can't seem to argue with that statement there! XD |
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I hoped for A got B opening the thread. And my experience is that we are C.    |
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| Those who actively identify themselves as 'otaku' and 'weaboo', such as thewiru, don't even actually understand the words that have just come off their mouth. Who the fuck in the right mind would actively strive to be one? |
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Zarutaku said: comm There is no 'I, me, mine' in communism.  |
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Those who actively identify themselves as 'otaku' and 'weaboo', such as thewiru, don't even actually understand the words that have just come off their mouth. Who the fuck in the right mind would actively strive to be one?
| @SgtBateMan Someone who's not a coward when it comes to strings of letters. Why shouldn't I call myself an otaku? What am I, then? |
In the traditional sense, you’re not one. Unless someone is obsessively buying and collecting shit like merch, the label doesn’t really fit. Simply watching a form of media doesn't qualify someone as an Otaku. I mean do people call those who obsessively watch Western football otakus too? How about those who binge Netflix constantly? At best one could be called a hardcore fan, or maybe just a weeb? Honestly, I don’t even know why people feel the need to label themselves at all. "Otaku" wasn’t even a term people originally used for themselves, it was something others started calling someone who had an extreme obsession for collecting shit like Toys, Books, physical media, etc... lol In regards to Anime, it's one who spending most of their time and money on it. Collecting merch, figures, magazines, DVDs/BDs, posters, etc... Where they basically organizing their entire life around such a hobby. Spending time to go way deep into the culture from conventions, fan circles, doujinshi, etc... |
ColourWheelSep 18, 6:39 PM
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You express the following to your IRL associates, then disappear into the animeverse forever. |
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ColourWheel said:
Simply watching a form of media doesn't qualify someone as an Otaku.
Simply watching a form of media doesn't qualify someone as an Otaku.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/otaku/
"Borrowed from Japanese, otaku refers to a person who is obsessed with manga, anime, and other forms of Japanese or East Asian popular culture."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otaku
"Otaku (Japanese: おたく, オタク, or ヲタク) is a type of Japanese subculture of people with consuming interests, such as anime, manga, video games, computers, or any other enthusiastically pursued hobby. Its contemporary use originated with a 1983 essay by Akio Nakamori in Manga Burikko."
Even though this shit is not completely accurate... lol In Japan today, the term otaku is widely considered to be a rude term, used to identify someone who is obsessed with something to a destructive, “abnormal” degree. In Japan, someone who watches anime would not be considered an otaku, but a person who, as it’s reported, has a body pillow depicting their favorite anime character would be. As Japanese popular culture migrated to the United States and Europe, with legions of manga fans holding their own anime conventions in Western countries, the word otaku migrated with it, spreading in the early 2000s. It’s meaning and connotation has shifted, however. In Western cultures, otaku is far less derisive, more closely resembling its original use among anime and manga fans. It also broadened beyond Japanese anime and manga to refer to fans of other East Asian popular culture such as South Korean soap operas. Many American anime fans, for instance, proudly self-identify as otaku with pride, sporting T-shirts expressing themselves as such. Western fans in the 90s/2000s adopted the word because that shit just sounded cooler than “cartoon nerd”. lol But for people in Japan, someone who only streams or downloads Anime, even if they watch a ton of that shit, would just be called an anime fan (animē fan in katakana). Such a term as "Otaku" is generally reserved for people who go way beyond passively watching shit. lol |
ColourWheelSep 18, 7:13 PM
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SgtBateMan said: There is no 'I, me, mine' in communism. @SgtBateMan Actually, there's an I. |
No, this isn't my signature. |
BTW, I received the answer for that in this comment: |
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BTW, I received the answer for that in this comment:
| @thewiru There’s a major flaw in this reasoning. There’s no formal standardized shit for what makes someone an "Anime expert". People don’t earn degrees in Anime. Experience counts, but anyone can basically fucking claim expertise. lol I remember a User on this platform who has likely been watching Anime for over at least 15+ years (though haven't seen them post in a while now), yet they still seemed unable to accept that translations from Nihongo to English are inherently interpretive. They had this fanboy delusion that shit like localization works like math. That a single phrase or word in Nihongo can always be translated explicitly and literally into English, which simply isn’t how language fucking works at all. lol This same User also went on and on in another thread about how a majority of Rumiko Takahashi's work is "Ecchi" too. lol There is no point in trying to school random Users even if one has the best intentions, because a majority of the time people are simply going to believe what they want to no matter how much empirical data one can throw in their face... They will either be in denial about shit, if it doesn't fit some preconceived narrative they have already built in their head, or they simply won't listen to another stranger over something as petty as just not liking the messenger. lol And the bigger problem is everyone has their own fucking opinions too... lol Since you have said before you have roughly been consuming Anime for about a decade, I already know I have over 2 and a half decades more experience consuming shit in this medium. But does it matter what I say about this medium? If I say something that doesn't fit your already made up narrative about something in your head, you are likely not going to listen to what I have to say about it and just tune that shit out. lol |
ColourWheelSep 19, 10:20 PM
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thewiru said: So, how does the assimilation into the anime community work? You can just go back to your previous threads where you have asked many idential questions. |
| What is your definition of "anime community"? Sounds monolithic. |
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@SgtBateMan
Someone who's not a coward when it comes to strings of letters.
Why shouldn't I call myself an otaku?
What am I, then?
Someone who's not a coward when it comes to strings of letters.
Why shouldn't I call myself an otaku?
What am I, then?
thewiru said: Someone who's not a coward when it comes to strings of letters. Care to elaborate what cowardice in not identifying oneself as your given buzzword, which doesn't even have anything to do with oneself, even is, or what the fuck did you even mean in general? 'Strings of letters' in the stead of 'sentences' doesn't make you smarter, nor does it show either you have talent with words or your dyslexia has been cured. thewiru said: What am I, then? Then your immature foolishness had the audacity to ask others to identify yourself instead of conducting your own research. Best I could do now that you have been given the true meaning of the words are "the one that doesn't even have any trait but 'watching animu', for the better or worse", and etc., if you insist on thewiru said: "being an otaku" |
SgtBateManSep 19, 10:22 AM
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Zarutaku said: SgtBateMan said: There is no 'I, me, mine' in communism. @SgtBateMan Actually, there's an I. it's actually an 'I' amongst comrades.  |
SgtBateManSep 19, 8:24 AM
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