Is steins gate the GOAT?

MineFord_gurme said:
For me, Stein's Gate on the second place, after Link Click. Both are amazing projects

Counteru said:
Oh I was mostly joking. Just meant I really really love the show. I guess you can't really be biased about something subjective like this lol

 Yeah Suzuha is my fave! but all the characters are great. Everyone is just so likeable

Sixtynineclock said:

it's Suzuha God damm it

sl4dd3r said:

Hadn’t heard of Link Click, but now I’m definitely watching it. Thanks for the recommendation!

SakuGOD99 said:
In my opinion, idt that it is any anime that reach the lvl of steins gate

VenusErebus said:
Yep, Steins;Gate is the GOAT.
Especially the visual novel, I consider it to be even better than the anime. Such an emotional rollercoaster. Can't wait to explore more Steins;Gate content in the supposed sequel in the works.

VenusErebus said:
Yep, Steins;Gate is the GOAT.
Especially the visual novel, I consider it to be even better than the anime. Such an emotional rollercoaster. Can't wait to explore more Steins;Gate content in the supposed sequel in the works.

DiomarBrasindo said:

Not better than part 4 diamond is unbreakable the inspiration

IamSajid said:
how da fuk ya all are forgetting AOT💀Dont get me wrong,S;G is my most fav anime. but come on,AOT is better than it,if anything comes close to AOT,then It is steins gate. but steins gate indeed is GOATed

1nilla said:
I cannot find any information of it tho? Is it real? Still make me wonder if they could think of anything that can top this masterpiece.

oyabuntaro said:
The steins gate anime isn't even the best version of steins gate, let alone the best anime

Apolygon2 said:


the anime is so much better than the vn like its not even close. i don't get why anyone would say other wise.

SciADV_Maniac said:


How can be something better if it cut important content and disrespectful to the source material from a character development point of view?

Apolygon2 said:

I don't think any of the cut content was really that important, and I have no idea what you mean by your second point. the included character arcs are pretty much 1 to 1. nothing was changed about that.


the reason I consider better:

while some good stuff were cut, most of the things that were cut out just result in far better pacing. there is so much fluff in the original that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, and all of it was dealt with stunningly. 

the VN's soundtrack is smaller than the anime, despite the fact that it's much longer. so it ends cycling through tracks over and over and over again, even for some of the important tracks. 

the VN has barely any, I forgot what they're actually called but, "special" shots. you know when it's not just the characters and its an actual picture. which, isn't bad on it's own terms.

but then you look at the original steins;gate being one of the most well directed anime ever made, and the truth of the matter is that steins;gate is far more well made anime by anime standards, compared to how well made the vn is by vn standards. 

in terms of presentation the anime is basically perfect, there are arguments to be made for the story, I disagree with them, but I consider them valid, but it terms of presentation, the anime is by far the better way to experience the story.

and I am not even considering how stupidly badly designed is the way you're suppose to get the true ending in the vn from a gameplay stand point. looking it up is a near necessity.

but let's ignore that, and let's talk about the story.

I can talk about the fact that you can feel okabe's emotions through his facial expressions hits a lot harder than reading his mind, but that's just an advantage an anime has to the vn. which I do consider personally, but I see why one wouldn't.

but the main thing that bothers me about that is how stupid okabe seems in the vn in comparison to the anime.

and I totally get why, for the sake of keeping up tension and letting the audience follow at their own pace and other things along those lines, you some random obvious text. things like being like "why did that happen" when it is extremely obvious why that happened. and the okabe of the vn just seems so dense in so many ways. the mayuri messages, where just infuriating to read.

in the anime, mayuri's feelings are actually kept hidden in the original. you don't really know if she feels romantically about him, or just admires him... until 0 but that's a whole other thing.

and because it is actually hidden, okabe doesn't seem like the most dense son of a gun to exist for not noticing it.

this is just the biggest example. but so many things, mostly related to okabe's thoughts make him seem a lot more dumb than he is depicted to be in the anime.

which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I for one think it's definitely worse.

as I said earlier, a lot of fluff was cut from the vn. but a lot of the things that got cut, where stuff that I straight up disliked.

the worst part of the vn was by far the start of farris's plot line. that whole card game gang trying to attack her thing is so god damn stupid. I was baffled by how dumb that whole plot line was in the vn. and I was so glad they cut 90% of it. 

that one thing alone adds a big point to the anime for me, since they cut the vast majority of what I consider to be the worst part of the story.

I'm also glad the nae thing was cut. it felt way too random for me, and was a complete tonal whiplash. like steins;gate, specially in the original always felt fairly grounded, and a yandere loli from the future felt really off. I get some people like it, but I thought it didn't mish mash well, so I'm also glad that was cut.

the other endings.... I didn't really care that much about....

I will say that the suzuha ending would have been super cool, but other than that....

the ruka and farris one where exactly what you would except. they weren't bad at all, in fact they are pretty good, but nothing you wouldn't guess just by hearing "ruka ending, or farris ending"

mayuri's I dislike, because it creates a giant plot hole, and that plot hole is, why is WW3 not a thing? 



there are a lot more nit picks, but these are the main stuff.

oh one last thing.

and this last one is purely personal.

I adore both the english and japanese cast of steins;gate. I might even say I slightly prefer the dub. so having the option is a giant plus for me.


so if I had to rate them:

the vn is an 8/10, and the anime is my favorite anime, so it's an extremely solid 10/10.

I haven't played that many vns, but if we count 13 sentinals as a visual novel, that's a far better sci-fi vn than the steins;gate visual novel.

SciADV_Maniac said:



1. The anime removed literally every single important bit which ties Steins;Gate to SciADV. As a SciADV fan knowing how these VNs are well connected telling an overarching story, this is not really good.
2. The anime removed literally the best scene of the game, when Okabe breaks down mentally after he finally returns back to Beta
3. The anime removes explanations, and sometimes adds its own, which introduces plotholes
4. By being disrespectful to the source material, I meant Mr. Braun, whose characterization is butchered by the anime. And given existing side materials like Braunian Motion manga, what we see in the anime about him doesn't make sense and completely out of character

Apolygon2 said:


non of these except point 2 and maybe 3 actually affect the quality though.

and i'm pushing it with those. i don't know any new plot holes added, and okabe already has a few amazing mental break down scenes. even if the best one was cut out, all the other ones in the anime hit way harder than they did in the vn, so it more than makes up for it.

point 1 and 4 only affect outside content. sg can be a stand alone story. just because the vn was a part of a bigger thing, it doesn't mean the anime is worse for not being that.

but even if agreed with all these complaints fully, i would still think the anime gains a lot more than it looses because of all those reasons i mentioned.

SciADV_Maniac said:
No, Steins;Gate is not a standalone story, it can't stand on its own feet (many stuff is not explained properly like convergence and reading steiner). The rest of SciADV isn't really "outside" content. Chaos;Head Noah has stuff which completely recontextualizes Steins;Gate

Apolygon2 said:
I didn't say it's standalone, I said it can easily be stand alone.

yes obviously I know it's part if sciadv, and it would be more fleshed out with the context of some of the other entries.

but it is undeniable that it can stand on it's own. most of the people who love and adore steins;gate don't even know there is more to it. and nothing in the show feels "unexplained" enough to make a viewer think they are missing something. 

it is outside content. even steins;gate 0 isn't necessary. it's a nice addition. but the original isn't exactly an incomplete story without it. 0 adds to it, and recontextualizes it, and explains it more, but the story is still "complete" without it.

SciADV_Maniac said:
Most people doesn't really think about how the mechanics in this story make sense, but plenty of people do and they find inconsistencies. Like how Reading Steiner and convergence works totally random many times with no set of rules behind them.

Apolygon2 said:
I just don't agree, it works.

reading steiner applies when the timeline shifts, that's it.

maybe there is more to it, but that's basically all you need to know for the plot of the original.

but even if there are issues, they are unnoticeable enough to barely be a nit pick. I've seen the show 4 times, and played the vn, reading steiner is pretty damn well explained for what it needs to be.

even if it has issues, it barely has an affect on the plot. and again, I don't even think there are issues.

I'm just saying I would disagree even if I agreed with all your complaints. these are barely nit picks.

SciADV_Maniac said:
There were plenty of times when the worldline changed, but Reading Steiner didn't activated. It can be explained by that the shift wasn't "big enough", but "big enough" is pretty subjective. And sometimes the change was pretty "big enough" imho, yet there was no reading steiner. Maybe God is a subjective being? :) I'll find out when I close the loop and hack into God :)

Convergence is also random, basically the writer decides what's convergence and what's not. There are no rules specifying what makes an event convergence.

And these are having pretty big effects on the plot as these 2 key mechanics in the entire story.

Apolygon2 said:
time travel is not exactly real.

yes big enough is subjective, yes what is convergence and what is not does feel random, but it doesn't matter.

there are certain things that a story tells you and you just except as the truth. it's nice to get an explanation later on, but it doesn't really matter. 

it's kinda like okabe's reading steiner. I don't think in any entry is explained exactly what makes okabe have a different kind of reading steiner than everyone else. the show just gives a possible answer (the sickness) and says nothing else. and that's fine. you just except it.

again, getting the answer would be cool, but it's not necessary in the slightest.