Seems like reached it's peak

bigred101196 said:

again I'm not saying all of it isn't filler but the majority of the side stories have either some relation to the main story or have some character development. Now this will be my last response as this is getting repetitive and you seem to just ignore my main point everytime. What you are saying is your OPINION but you are treating it like its a FACT. It's fine to debate your OPINION and try and have people understand your OPINION but acting as if it is a FACT is delusional. Filler = bad is an OPINION not a FACT. There isn't as much filler as your making it out to be but regardless filler being bad is still an OPINION

Confused_100 said:

What opinion? Some ppl here acted like it’s next coming but we all know it drops in quality considerably. Sorry If I seemed like a “hater” or something but it’s true. The story fails to keep up with its own identity. And I like honesty. Now to counter your “counterpoints”, you said I was in copium, I asked how? Also realised you miscounted the number of posts I sent, meaning you just wanted to provoke me. It’s just proof to me that you aren’t here to counter my points but “make fun” or “dismiss”. Your thing though.

Anyone can enjoy it however and whatever way they like though. Just pointing out that there are false statements here.

FluffyExpress said:
Apparently I need to go into detail.  I will do that just for you!  Let's go point-by-point.

1.  The topic posted by the original poster suggests that they are seeking an ANSWER FROM PEOPLE, which said answer can ONLY be called an OPINION (evidently you don't even understand what an opinion even is as your final statement tries to prove that there is such a thing as a FALSE OPINION).

2.  I capitalized copium because I felt that there was no need for me to explain why I said it in the first place.  It is quite funny to me how people on copium tend to admit they arent.  You are unable to accept the fact that other people like something you do not.  This LEADS to your replies to other people, which only be considered a coping mechanism.  This is how you deal with the negative emotions that others' posts bring you.

3.  Assuming you realized it, my comments were made setting aside the anime/manga in question.  You would be correct in making the claim that all I am doing is taking a shot at your ability to accept others' opinions.  I do not care about countering your OPINIONS on OnK.

4.  Regarding my previous point, and referencing the portion of my first point in parentheses, your concluding statement only leads me to believe everything I have written is true.  The wording on those final two sentences may be atrocious, but interpreted literally, I am only to assume that you are claiming people can have opinions, just for them to sometimes be wrong.  I simply do not know any other way to take that statement of yours. 

Let me tell you something though since you clearly didn't care about countering this point I made:  Opinions will never be right or wrong, there is no point in subjecting them to such scrutiny.

Confused_100 said:

1. There is such a thing called as WRONG OPINION, when it contradicts FACTS. Sorry this is hard for you to understand but then again you don’t understand what COPIUM means.

2. You capitalised it along with Number of posts (which were wrong btw) because you wanted to just make fun and provoke. What I said were FACTS about series. As in did story lose its way? Yes it did. It has nothing to do with me disliking it or not. You can’t deny there is filler in it and that its genre shouldn’t have any filler and should be criticised for having that. As for coping mechanism; that’s you because you replied without thinking. That’s when coping happens, it’s mostly when someone replies and tries to just dismiss without thinking. So thank you for doing that.

3. But you do care, otherwise you wouldn’t have replied and continued replying in the first place.

4. Now you are getting back at me for saying that you proved my point. It’s okay, you do this when you are standing on a weak floor. Opinions are acceptable, like you liking the series. Opinions aren’t acceptable when they contradict Facts. Yeah I know it’s weird for you to know this but that’s a thing. Here’s a Fact for you: Fillers aren’t Progressive Stories. They are called Fillers for a reason, you acting it is a story or liking it doesn’t mean it is an actual Progressive Story. That’s when I say you are wrong.

As I just proved to you with an example even that there is something called “Wrong Opinions”, I don’t scrutinise anyone. I look at what is said and show how it’s wrong. Learn that there is something called FACTS.

FluffyExpress said:
I am deeply sorry for your loss, but there is no saving you at this rate.  You fail to see the difference between opinions and facts, let alone even analyze what I am saying.  I will now take my leave.

Confused_100 said:

Did Gintama start with a story premise? Gintama started out as a parody lol. You comparing this to Gintama says alot. This had the potential to be as good as CSM or even better but squandered it.

Muhammad13xx said:

I wonder how many brain cells u have
Your name is right you are too confused to comprehend a simple conversation

wilstreak said:
What are you talking about, you haven't met Kana, the flicking witch or whatever.

Sanjay63773 said:
Did anybody feel like the first episode of this show is literally the climax of the entire story?

Confused_100 said:

Sorry, I just countered every point you made with examples as well. Hope you start to actually read and understand what ppl say in the future

FluffyExpress said:
I really just can't get enough of you.  Too fun!

You quite literally just said the same shit that spewed from your mouth prior to me making any argument against you.  This exact reason is why no one will get anywhere with you.  You claim I cannot do things that you cannot do yourself.  Your "counters" don't even apply to what I am saying, yet you claim you have beaten me in a debate.  Then you go on to tell me that I lack the ability to understand what people say while you have committed this blunder yourself.  If you keep restating the same things, you were never even PARTICIPATING in a debate to begin with.

I have come to the understanding that you strive to create two sentence statements where both sentences contradict each other entirely.  I must say, you are truly a master at this much.

Confused_100 said:

Wait didn’t you say you will take your leave? I thought you didn’t care…

Well this will be quicker since you slipped up. You said “debate”, yet you are the one who started with the word “copium” meaning it was never a debate to begin with. It’s just me defending myself here.

Take it as you will. I don’t say “I won this argument”. You want to say that? Be my guest, I won’t reply if you just say that. Whatever makes you feel better. Take care though. Finally a word of advice? Don’t ever think you understood a person through the internet. I may have understood your intentions but I still don’t understand who you are and what you typically do. Take care and hope you have fun

Saleenseven said:
as a manga reader, i feel like it peaked in ep1. dropped later cuz the mystery takes a back seat

FluffyExpress said:

So is intentionally provoking people by calling manga readers fake a form of defending yourself? If you truly thought they were wrong, you wouldn't have chosen provocatory language when telling someone they are wrong. I thought this was an elaborate attempt to troll, so I bit thinking I would have a little fun. It would seem that I was correct. Instead of stealing my time, maybe it was the other way around? Now that everyone knows you are a troll, I doubt many will be as interested in this as I was, considering I bit for content.

kyou_on said:
Caught up on the manga a few weeks back. In a sense, the main story kinda peaked here and the rest is just about aqua and ruby learning about the entertainment industry. A lot of character progression onwards but the revenge arc is nowhere to be seen yet after 90+ chapters. It's will be a slow ride but a very enjoyable one.

Reshiram_IX said:
Notice the correlation? Akane carrie’s the series. Which makes her the undeniable best girl.

Haunt-Me said:
This 100 percent
People thinking the rest of the season will have the same vibe of ep1 will be disappointed

Sanjay63773 said:
Did anybody feel like the first episode of this show is literally the climax of the entire story?

Confused_100 said:

You talked as if there’s story when there isn’t any after a certain point is the problem. You liking it or not isnot my problem here. Everyone have their preferences, you must have liked it being a rom-com more or you just like it for your own reasons. But for you to say that story keeps going when there is literally fluff/bloat, isnot a way to say your opinion.

I actually don’t know why your post was sent 3 times lol. Try and delete 2 of them if possible

bigred101196 said:

The first volume was the prologue. Ai is not a main character. Her death is not the main plot point. Aqua's revenge is the main plot point. Idk what ch you have read up to but I'm all the way up to the most recent (ch 114) and it is still focused on Aqua's revenge and has just made a major development. Aqua was only using the relationship to get information on the father. Not all of the branch plots are directly related to the main plot but most of them are and again there's nothing wrong with having side stories. There isn't some hard defined set way to write stories. The author writes this story with side stories and that's fine. If you don't like that writing style that's fine. But don't claim it isn't a story.

Confused_100 said:

Sorry, I just countered every point you made with examples as well. Hope you start to actually read and understand what ppl say in the future

Thegib98 said:
This was so entertaining to follow. You were totally wrong the entire time, but just kept going with confidence. You are either a great troll, or completely hopeless, but whichever it is, keep doing what you are doing. It makes for grade A entertainment..

MoeGod said:

But there is a story.. idk why you're so focused on the romcom aspect when it's barely ever a focus on a whole. Do you even read the manga? there was literally only one arc where romance was the focus and even then it wasn't fluff romcom by any means. Ever since then there have been SIX arcs with no focus on romance. Sure you get the odd scene or two about Aqua's love life but they were so few that it often wasn't even a full chapter.

Confused_100 said:

You have been vague about why I was wrong. I gave examples as to why I said to what I said. Not one person who was responding me did. Plus the story literally died after 2 arcs. It’s okay you want to do this since you only agree with ppl who like what you like. But calling ppl trolls for just doing that is really delusional of you though

Thegib98 said:

Bro, you are wrong because you’re shitting on people on MAL. I don’t think you’re a troll. I’m guessing you’re fairly young from looking at your posts, so I won’t judge too hard for not being able to have a constructive conversation. What I don’t like is that you attack people for their opinions and act like you’re better than them.

What Fluffy was telling you is that your opinion isn’t wrong. It’s your opinion. You don’t have to like the anime or the manga and nobody is forcing you to do so. Just like how my and Fluffy’s opinions aren’t wrong either because we are entitled to our own opinions.

And you want facts as to why you are wrong about the actual material? The fact that you think there is too much filler is absolutely absurd. Oshi no Ko isn’t going to have every moment be about revenge or the entertainment industry because that’s not what the story is about. They are major parts, but they aren’t the main focus of the manga, and they aren’t the reason people tune in to read it. Oshi no Ko is about a kid who witnessed his mother and favorite idol in his past life get brutally murdered in front of him, laid in her arms as she gave her last breath, and needs a reason to push forward in life.



Aqua is not a bloodthirsty psychopath. He is human. All of the parts that you see as “filler” are there to humanize the characters. Akasaka Sensei made these characters to feel like real human beings trying their hardest in a world where their every move is being watched. Of course they will have crushes. Of course they will fall in love. Of course they’ll hang out and talk. That’s what real people do. What is the point of an anime in a realistic setting where the characters feel like they are in a battle shounen? The characters need to feel real or we won’t feel anything for them when something happens to them. That moment in the 2.5 D play where elicit genuine emotional responses because of how the reader is able to sympathize with Aqua and the rest of the characters. None of these emotional moments would hit if we didn’t care about them.

Every part of this anime has importance. The idol subplot is important. The acting subplot is important. The romance subplot is important. The cameo was fanservice, but that’s it. This manga isn’t long enough to have filler. Also, what parts exactly do you count as filler? Is it just

Okay I’ve written enough of a book for now. Just please know that you can give your opinion without being a jerk and others can have a different opinion than you. Have a good one.

Thegib98 said:

Bro, you are wrong because you’re shitting on people on MAL. I don’t think you’re a troll. I’m guessing you’re fairly young from looking at your posts, so I won’t judge too hard for not being able to have a constructive conversation. What I don’t like is that you attack people for their opinions and act like you’re better than them.

What Fluffy was telling you is that your opinion isn’t wrong. It’s your opinion. You don’t have to like the anime or the manga and nobody is forcing you to do so. Just like how my and Fluffy’s opinions aren’t wrong either because we are entitled to our own opinions.

And you want facts as to why you are wrong about the actual material? The fact that you think there is too much filler is absolutely absurd. Oshi no Ko isn’t going to have every moment be about revenge or the entertainment industry because that’s not what the story is about. They are major parts, but they aren’t the main focus of the manga, and they aren’t the reason people tune in to read it. Oshi no Ko is about a kid who witnessed his mother and favorite idol in his past life get brutally murdered in front of him, laid in her arms as she gave her last breath, and needs a reason to push forward in life.



Aqua is not a bloodthirsty psychopath. He is human. All of the parts that you see as “filler” are there to humanize the characters. Akasaka Sensei made these characters to feel like real human beings trying their hardest in a world where their every move is being watched. Of course they will have crushes. Of course they will fall in love. Of course they’ll hang out and talk. That’s what real people do. What is the point of an anime in a realistic setting where the characters feel like they are in a battle shounen? The characters need to feel real or we won’t feel anything for them when something happens to them. That moment in the 2.5 D play where elicit genuine emotional responses because of how the reader is able to sympathize with Aqua and the rest of the characters. None of these emotional moments would hit if we didn’t care about them.

Every part of this anime has importance. The idol subplot is important. The acting subplot is important. The romance subplot is important. The cameo was fanservice, but that’s it. This manga isn’t long enough to have filler. Also, what parts exactly do you count as filler? Is it just

Okay I’ve written enough of a book for now. Just please know that you can give your opinion without being a jerk and others can have a different opinion than you. Have a good one.

Confused_100 said:

I actually focused on it having no story after some point. Since people are confused when and I tried to be as vague as possible but I will just say it anyways. After 2 arcs specifically, the story starts to move in a snails pace, then hits a rock, tries to pick up but nothing really happens. Nothing of big impact happens, meaning alot of ppl could Ignore alot of chapters and lose so little of Information and may even not lose anything. This means the story becomes nonexistent. You liked it, good for you but it made some ppl drop out of the series. I dropped out but seeing from afar if the events actually picks up but it doesn’t. Even the latest arc is proof of that from what I am hearing; a character literally develops nothing new after one arc and comes back to the point, he/she was. You may disagree with what I say but it is a flaw in the manga. Nothing is perfect and there will be flaws in general. However you look at Kaguya and you wonder, this is literally a of rom-com’s flaw in general. Aka came with this flaw and didn’t grow out of it. We give it a pass because it’s a rom-com. Here we shouldn’t. Anyways I said my peace about it and feel like I have explained myself more here.

A big note: Some ppl may expect me that I disliked the series from beginning but that’s not the case because if I was, I wouldn’t have kept reading it until one point.

MoeGod said:
To me it seems like you weren't really paying attention to the story. It may not always focused on Aqua's revenge but to say nothing happened at all is just baffling. There were a lot of things happening that were important for the character's growth and building the connection necessary to execute said revenge. The latest arc is especially geared towards said revenge even though it may even still be just a prologue of what's coming. If people missed too many chapters they most definitely aren't going to understand the latest arc and how Aqua was able to do what he's doing right now.

I mean sure it's one thing if you don't like the story, perhaps it didn't cater to your attention span but it's misleading to say the story went nowhere and there were no impactful events. This manga is literally built with "holy shit" factor and the last few arcs were just like bombs after bombs being dropped. It sounds like you got impatient, dropped the manga at a weird point, and is now clueless as to the direction that the manga is taking currently. I'm not saying it's a perfect manga or that Aka has no flaws but imo you're just nitpicking at this point and it's only on stuffs that happened a long time ago.

ChuuritsuTv said:
Nah mate, it's totally falling below 9

bucketheadtonio said:
i called it just to let u know it a 9 

ChuuritsuTv said:
It's literally been below 9 for most of its runtime and now temporarily shot back because it ended today, wdym man