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Oct 27, 2020 4:11 PM

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KingPiccolo said:
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I don't think you have been where I have been. MHA S4 was getting bashed for implied animation issues and most people feeling disinterested in the story. I rarely see a thread at all on DB/DBZ on reddit but every week you will get a few "hey am I the only one who thinks Demon Slayer is overrated/trash".



If you could remember, on the rare chance you do see a Dragon Ball thread, what does it say?


It's usually just watch orders on reddit because most people for some reason want to skip DB (the best part) and get to Z or Super.
Oct 27, 2020 4:12 PM

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TolkienFan365 said:
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If you could remember, on the rare chance you do see a Dragon Ball thread, what does it say?


It's usually just watch orders on reddit because most people for some reason want to skip DB (the best part) and get to Z or Super.


Ahh same people who skip Marvel phase 1-3 to get to 4 and get that Endgame/Infinity War hype lol
Oct 27, 2020 4:17 PM

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KingPiccolo said:
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It's usually just watch orders on reddit because most people for some reason want to skip DB (the best part) and get to Z or Super.


Ahh same people who skip Marvel phase 1-3 to get to 4 and get that Endgame/Infinity War hype lol


It's more that people want to watch DB for the big spectacle fights or the fact since most of the Western fandom only cares about DBZ people have this assumption DB is worse. So I guess people are surprised that often outside of the dedicated fanbase to Z and Super you find the opposite opinion.

Or it's just people not liking the comedic/gag nature of Pilaf and wanting to move again on to something "cooler". You see this with plenty of long running action shonen. Like another dumb comment I saw on reddit was someone asking if they could skip all of Naruto Part 1. At that point if you feel it's too long and don't want to make the commitment just don't watch it.
Oct 27, 2020 4:18 PM
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Darkraii said:
No one respects Yu Yu Haksuho, Dragon Ball, Fist of the North Star, and Jojo? what are you on????


There was some trash talk about hakusho growing up now that I remember. Stupid kids used to call it a dbz clone. I kinda chalk that up to dumbass kids tho lol.
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WhiteTheWrong said:
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No one respects Yu Yu Haksuho, Dragon Ball, Fist of the North Star, and Jojo? what are you on????


There was some trash talk about hakusho growing up now that I remember. Stupid kids used to call it a dbz clone. I kinda chalk that up to dumbass kids tho lol.



I remember back in the day when everybody would call Yu Yu Hakasho a Dragon Ball clone, Naruto a Hunter x Hunter clone, Bleach a Yu Yu Hakasho clone, this that and the third
Oct 27, 2020 4:21 PM
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WhiteTheWrong said:
Darkraii said:
No one respects Yu Yu Haksuho, Dragon Ball, Fist of the North Star, and Jojo? what are you on????


There was some trash talk about hakusho growing up now that I remember. Stupid kids used to call it a dbz clone. I kinda chalk that up to dumbass kids tho lol.


well arent most shounen are called dragon ball clones lol.
Oct 27, 2020 4:25 PM

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Darkraii said:
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There was some trash talk about hakusho growing up now that I remember. Stupid kids used to call it a dbz clone. I kinda chalk that up to dumbass kids tho lol.


well arent most shounen are called dragon ball clones lol.


Actually not really, most Shounen are actually called One Piece and Naruto clones. The "I wanna become the king of my world, I'm gonna believe in myself!" Type of story. Replicating Dragon Ball is kind of difficult and I haven't seen as much copies of Dragon Ball as I've seen of One Piece and Naruto.
Oct 27, 2020 4:33 PM

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KingPiccolo said:
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Why do you think DB has a good plot?..


This proves my point right here, it has a better plot than most anime out there


I think the problem with DB isn't that it has a plot as bad as the lowest of lows of anime plots. But there is a population that praises it wrongly. Why do you think DragonBall has a good plot? Maybe we can discuss it.
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Darkraii said:
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There was some trash talk about hakusho growing up now that I remember. Stupid kids used to call it a dbz clone. I kinda chalk that up to dumbass kids tho lol.


well arent most shounen are called dragon ball clones lol.


Not hardly. Some draw inspiration from it but story, plot and characters not like.
Oct 27, 2020 4:45 PM

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BiDiGiN said:
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This proves my point right here, it has a better plot than most anime out there


I think the problem with DB isn't that it has a plot as bad as the lowest of lows of anime plots. But there is a population that praises it wrongly. Why do you think DragonBall has a good plot? Maybe we can discuss it.
BiDiGiN said:
KingPiccolo said:


This proves my point right here, it has a better plot than most anime out there


I think the problem with DB isn't that it has a plot as bad as the lowest of lows of anime plots. But there is a population that praises it wrongly. Why do you think DragonBall has a good plot? Maybe we can discuss it.
BiDiGiN said:
KingPiccolo said:


This proves my point right here, it has a better plot than most anime out there


I think the problem with DB isn't that it has a plot as bad as the lowest of lows of anime plots. But there is a population that praises it wrongly. Why do you think DragonBall has a good plot? Maybe we can discuss it.


It depends, I usually can't explain to people who think My Hero is the best piece of literature of all time. It's easier to explain to people who have more experience with anime
Oct 27, 2020 4:57 PM
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Darkraii said:
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There was some trash talk about hakusho growing up now that I remember. Stupid kids used to call it a dbz clone. I kinda chalk that up to dumbass kids tho lol.


well arent most shounen are called dragon ball clones lol.


3x3 Eyes is the best seinen DB clone and it is a crime it was never fully adapted to anime. It would have stood on the same podium with hkn, dB, Jojo, Saint Seiya etc.

If is as if DB had a serious plot and an interesting story embracing asian mythology, plus romance and a protagonist that gets beaten to a pulp.

If it was labelled as shonen, it would have been my favourite
Oct 27, 2020 5:13 PM

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KingPiccolo said:
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I think the problem with DB isn't that it has a plot as bad as the lowest of lows of anime plots. But there is a population that praises it wrongly. Why do you think DragonBall has a good plot? Maybe we can discuss it.
BiDiGiN said:


I think the problem with DB isn't that it has a plot as bad as the lowest of lows of anime plots. But there is a population that praises it wrongly. Why do you think DragonBall has a good plot? Maybe we can discuss it.
BiDiGiN said:


I think the problem with DB isn't that it has a plot as bad as the lowest of lows of anime plots. But there is a population that praises it wrongly. Why do you think DragonBall has a good plot? Maybe we can discuss it.


It depends, I usually can't explain to people who think My Hero is the best piece of literature of all time. It's easier to explain to people who have more experience with anime


Having a lot of experience with anime has nothing to do with knowing (and explaining) what makes a good plot. You seem to be evading the question...
Oct 27, 2020 5:21 PM

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BiDiGiN said:
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It depends, I usually can't explain to people who think My Hero is the best piece of literature of all time. It's easier to explain to people who have more experience with anime


Having a lot of experience with anime has nothing to do with knowing (and explaining) what makes a good plot. You seem to be evading the question...


No matter what I say you're going to claim it's bad. I can't explain to certain type of fans so I usually just wait until they watch a variety of anime.
Oct 27, 2020 5:27 PM

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How is Dragon Ballz 'underrated' talking shit has nothing to do with the terms of viewership DBZ has.. More viewership > more people talking shit, that's just how it works.


but that's what I mean, underrated in terms of plot
Oct 27, 2020 5:32 PM

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kiwixcoke said:
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but that's what I mean, underrated in terms of plot


I mean, the plot can be good but it still has 100's of episodes lol not everyone is going to stick around


I get that, I just don't like the amount of crap it gets compared to other series
Oct 27, 2020 5:46 PM

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@KingPiccolo

I am trying as hard as I can to be open, and I've watched a variety of anime. I am not going to say it is bad whatever you say, there are good reasons to appreciate DragonBall. And there are bad reasons to appreciate DragonBall. Are you judging me because I haven't watched enough anime? I don't understand.
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BiDiGiN said:
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I am trying as hard as I can to be open, and I've watched a variety of anime. I am not going to say it is bad whatever you say, there are good reasons to appreciate DragonBall. And there are bad reasons to appreciate DragonBall. Are you judging me because I haven't watched enough anime? I don't understand.



Idk man it's just you have to watch Dragon Ball to criticize it same with any other media
Oct 27, 2020 5:53 PM

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KingPiccolo said:
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@KingPiccolo

I am trying as hard as I can to be open, and I've watched a variety of anime. I am not going to say it is bad whatever you say, there are good reasons to appreciate DragonBall. And there are bad reasons to appreciate DragonBall. Are you judging me because I haven't watched enough anime? I don't understand.



Idk man it's just you have to watch Dragon Ball to criticize it same with any other media


Oh ok! Well.. I've finished reading DragonBall very recently (3-4 months ago) so we can talk about it perfectly!
Oct 27, 2020 7:58 PM

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BiDiGiN said:
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Idk man it's just you have to watch Dragon Ball to criticize it same with any other media


Oh ok! Well.. I've finished reading DragonBall very recently (3-4 months ago) so we can talk about it perfectly!


I guess it wasn't the series for you because you speak on it like it's your least liked anime
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