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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Cover: Synopsis: "The 12th volume, where justice is confounded. Featuring the attack of the heinous Demon Emperor, Jaldabaoth. The Holy Kingdom, which takes great pride in its long peace and which is defended by a great wall, is assaulted by an allied army of demihumans. The supreme commander of the allied forces is the Demon Emperor Jaldabaoth. The Holy Kingdom faces destruction at the hands of the cruel and merciless Demon Emperor. The liberating army that seeks to aid the suffering citizens requests aid from the Sorcerous Kingdom, a nation of the undead that are the mortal enemy of the Holy Kingdom. Led by the Sorcerer King Ainz Ooal Gown, the Holy Kingdom sets out to destroy the Demon Emperor Jaldabaoth." Japan release date: September 30th |
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| The last 3 volumes have been the best in the series in my opinion, so I'm pretty excited for this one. Seems like it'll be a "super" version of volume 6, which was also pretty good. It's pretty obvious from the epilogue in the last book and Demiurge saying earlier that they needed a doppelgänger for the Holy Kingdom, that Ainz will fake his death. Not sure what the ulimtate purpose of doing that is, or for how long he's going to be "dead," but it should be interesting. I'm curious about is what Momon's role will be, if any. |
| Demiurge is fucking savage!! All hail Nigel-Sama!! |
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| Read the baidu spoilers for the volume. Disappointed that Ainz doesn't die in this volume, looks like it won't happen until 13. And who even knows if he'll be back by the end of that volume. 11's epilogue really was disappointing. |
Nezperdian said: I think what he meant was that "plan" didn't happened this volume and was prolonged up to volume 13 and it's quite frustrating that we(yes, I'm included) will not see it sooner XD. duhu1148 said: Read the baidu spoilers for the volume. Disappointed that Ainz doesn't die in this volume, looks like it won't happen until 13. And who even knows if he'll be back by the end of that volume. 11's epilogue really was disappointing. It's pretty obvious that Ainz couldn't have died. It's all part of a bigger keikaku that even he doesn't know. |
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| I'm guessing that ultimately the ending to 13 will have Momon reveal himself as Ainz. |
| Oh god... sure hope Neia doesn't end up dying because Ainz thinks her eyes are full of murderous intent for him. |
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| "She kept looking at him with murderous eyes, so he probably should not expect anything good to come of it. " Come one Ainz. You fucking dense bonehead! How could you not notice volume 12 Best Girl ?? |
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| I'm more concerned by how Demiruge is gonna interpret Ainz' answer at the end |
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| A setup for vol 13, wrath replacing demiurge and bringing the pain on the holy queen :O Neia a cute, maybe she'll become an undead and join nazarick. Ainz will "die" next vol it seems. |
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| I think I can already see what's going to happen. The Doppelgänger will replace Ainz and is going to die instead of him, though I really can't understand why Ainz and Demiurge would plan such a thing. To be honest, I didn't really like this volume so much, since the pace of the story was really slow when compared to volume 11. A lot more things happened in volume 11, and it had the best girl in it. Too bad she wasn't in volume 12, but oh well... at least she got a nice artwork in the end of the volume to compensate for her lack of appearance in it. |
| “Right is right even if no one is doing it; wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.” ― Saint Augustine |
Kazra07 said: Can someone confirm this for me. Is the story get retcon or what. I remember somewhere in previous volume (can't remember what vol?) in intermission chapters talking about a loli dragon queen that is also fighting against demihumans in her country. But in this volume the queens isn't even a loli nor a dragon descendant. Did I mistake the story or something. That's another country called the dragonic kingdom this is the holy kingdom. |
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| Despite nothing really happening and the volume primarily focusing on indirectly praising Ainz, it was a good read. Demiurge's choice of weaponry made me chuckle a bit. Ainz, please notice the sparkling eyes Neia is looking you with. Hopefully she survives the battle in next volume. Kazra07 said: Also for clarification is this Holy Kingdom by chance anywhere near the Draconic Kingdom or what. Coz that will be a total mess-up in the author writing. Draconic Kingdom is located south-east of Baharut Empire, on the other side of a mountain range, where as Roble Holy Kingdom is south-west of Re-Estize |
| I swear I'm gonna get mad if Neia die on next volume. |
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| Well I think Ainz will mess up Demiurge's plan somehow but pull one of his classic clueless genius moves. Somehow end up faking his own death and Neia and her bow will probably involved in a way that causes misunderstandings. And NPCs will at first beg Ainz to explain his thoughts while Ainz agonizes about what to say, Demiurge or Albedo will somehow find logic in his actions and praise him until Ainz is crying on the inside. Ainz really is a genius in my opinion. It's because he is so completely clueless about the effect he has on people and always thinks in an almost unnaturally normal way, has his priorities all mixed up. But still acts like a ruler. Also he has surprisingly high intelligence and completely devoid of sympathy for anyone outside of Nazarick, but still thinks the way he does. This makes it impossible to predict him for everyone because they always have some kind of misunderstanding about him. By the way, how come Ainz can't understand that Neia is in a way just like him. I mean he always gets misunderstood and feared while people always think Neia's glaring at them. |
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| I was shocked when Ainz didn't consider Neia one of the humans to be saved, SHE MIGHT END UP DYING AND I DON'T WANT HER TO DIE BECAUSE SHE WAS THE FIRST HUMAN I ACTUALLY LIKED IN OVERLORD |
| "The cycle of life continues. They will live, they will die" |
| I was shocked when Ainz didn't consider Neia one of the humans to be saved, SHE MIGHT END UP DYING AND I DON'T WANT HER TO DIE BECAUSE SHE WAS THE FIRST HUMAN I ACTUALLY LIKED IN OVERLORD |
| "The cycle of life continues. They will live, they will die" |
| Damn i can't wait for VL 13 its been so long .... i really want to see how things turn out. Along with a lot of people i also don't think Ainz himself will die i don't think Demiurge would ever come up with a plan in which Ainz would have to die even if it was just acting but still who knows right? Also like a lot of you i don't want Neia to die she's just to cute with her ever-glare lol also i dislike how she was treated like trash .... also who do you guys think is the doppelganger ? the prince or custodio ? i don't belive it's the prince since in Ainz monologue at the end he said "demiurge told me to do this if we stayed at the city" so that means it can't be the prince since he was unpredictable to a certain degree still i also don't think it's custodio or at least i hope it's not her such a zealot deserves a terrible death so i hope she get's taken by demiurge and is experimented on. I think while fighting Neia will use the bow and that's how people will become intrested in the runecraft thing i also think demiurge will somehow connect the bow to ainz and he will not kill her maybe he will even order some high level beast to be killed by her to show of the might of the bow and then later on when it looks like ainz is in a disadvantageous positing against demiurge she will try to sacrifice herself for him thus allowing Ainz to trust her. |
 Truly, comparisons between fellow humans are what turn out to be the most infuriating. |
| Fucking hell, Neia done fell for Ainz. Albedo and Shaltear has competition from a human now. |
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| Enjoyable read. Had a few laughs. Kept me reading on and on. |
| I recently read all of the overlord volumes and with volume 11 being one of my favorites volume 12 just felt like even more of a let down compared to that I mean the only reason i an see why ainz would fake his death would be so Mormon can fight The Deamon afterwords and that he can reveal himself as Mormon aster he inevitably won. But I still don't see the purpose of all of this I mean we have seen in the past few volumes that there is nobody who can rival Ainzs strengh and even if there was he still has the numbers on his side given that he has multiple subordinates who are somewhat equal to him in strengh. So he could just take over the entire known world and make the people like him by offering them a bright future like he did with everyone else. With all that going for him I cant see the purpose of all these schemes. Also the Knights of the Holy Kingdom are insufferably stupid. |
xShinigami3125 said: I recently read all of the overlord volumes and with volume 11 being one of my favorites volume 12 just felt like even more of a let down compared to that I mean the only reason i an see why ainz would fake his death would be so Mormon can fight The Deamon afterwords and that he can reveal himself as Mormon aster he inevitably won. But I still don't see the purpose of all of this I mean we have seen in the past few volumes that there is nobody who can rival Ainzs strengh and even if there was he still has the numbers on his side given that he has multiple subordinates who are somewhat equal to him in strengh. So he could just take over the entire known world and make the people like him by offering them a bright future like he did with everyone else. With all that going for him I cant see the purpose of all these schemes. You read the novels and yet you still don't understand why he's not roflstomping everything in the world? It's because he doesn't know if there are other players HIDDEN in the wide world somewhere. The last thing he wants to do is give those people reason to band together and come after Nazarick. That's why the slow methodical route is best in his eyes. |
Darklight0303 said: xShinigami3125 said: I recently read all of the overlord volumes and with volume 11 being one of my favorites volume 12 just felt like even more of a let down compared to that I mean the only reason i an see why ainz would fake his death would be so Mormon can fight The Deamon afterwords and that he can reveal himself as Mormon aster he inevitably won. But I still don't see the purpose of all of this I mean we have seen in the past few volumes that there is nobody who can rival Ainzs strengh and even if there was he still has the numbers on his side given that he has multiple subordinates who are somewhat equal to him in strengh. So he could just take over the entire known world and make the people like him by offering them a bright future like he did with everyone else. With all that going for him I cant see the purpose of all these schemes. You read the novels and yet you still don't understand why he's not roflstomping everything in the world? It's because he doesn't know if there are other players HIDDEN in the wide world somewhere. The last thing he wants to do is give those people reason to band together and come after Nazarick. That's why the slow methodical route is best in his eyes. I get that but there are other ways to take over countries I mean for example the Empire is pretty much his now and he didn't kill a single one of their soldiers simply preasuring the countries leaders/offering them to be his "Ally's" or become one of his vasall states for trade benefits/protection wouldn't be that hard. Given that compared to everyone else Nazarick has godlike Gear/resources/soldiers accomplishing the previously mentioned things wouldn't be all that hard. Also he already roflstomped the kingdom so you can't tell me that that wasn't enough of a reason for any hidden players (if there even are any) to rally up against him. |
xShinigami3125 said: Darklight0303 said: You read the novels and yet you still don't understand why he's not roflstomping everything in the world? It's because he doesn't know if there are other players HIDDEN in the wide world somewhere. The last thing he wants to do is give those people reason to band together and come after Nazarick. That's why the slow methodical route is best in his eyes. I get that but there are other ways to take over countries I mean for example the Empire is pretty much his now and he didn't kill a single one of their soldiers simply preasuring the countries leaders/offering them to be his "Ally's" or become one of his vasall states for trade benefits/protection wouldn't be that hard. Given that compared to everyone else Nazarick has godlike Gear/resources/soldiers accomplishing the previously mentioned things wouldn't be all that hard. Also he already roflstomped the kingdom so you can't tell me that that wasn't enough of a reason for any hidden players (if there even are any) to rally up against him. The new world is HUGE. That's part of the reason why he wants to make Adventurers live up to their name and have them explore and map out the entire world. Just cause tehre were no players in the immediate regions doesn't mean there aren't any beyond their borders further out. You have to look at it from Ainz's perspective not that of a omniscient spectator/reader. |
Darklight0303 said: xShinigami3125 said: I get that but there are other ways to take over countries I mean for example the Empire is pretty much his now and he didn't kill a single one of their soldiers simply preasuring the countries leaders/offering them to be his "Ally's" or become one of his vasall states for trade benefits/protection wouldn't be that hard. Given that compared to everyone else Nazarick has godlike Gear/resources/soldiers accomplishing the previously mentioned things wouldn't be all that hard. Also he already roflstomped the kingdom so you can't tell me that that wasn't enough of a reason for any hidden players (if there even are any) to rally up against him. The new world is HUGE. That's part of the reason why he wants to make Adventurers live up to their name and have them explore and map out the entire world. Just cause tehre were no players in the immediate regions doesn't mean there aren't any beyond their borders further out. You have to look at it from Ainz's perspective not that of a omniscient spectator/reader. Yea you are probably right but if you just look at the already discovered world he could easily take it over without killing a single person or even without the public knowing that's why this elaborate plan of demiurge to probably take over the Holy Kingdom and reveal Ainz as Mormon (just a guess of mine) seems a little unessecary. |
xShinigami3125 said: I don't really think there's an astronomical chance of introducing Momon as Ainz himself, that would be like slapping the kingdom in the face that their hero(Momon) was also their absolute genocider, if that happens, they'll be like "oh lord in heaven, let this world end already" KEK. But it doesn't really matter since the Kingdom is already in their hands because of Princess Renner and the 8 fingers. Not worth to mention the Empire is too.Darklight0303 said: The new world is HUGE. That's part of the reason why he wants to make Adventurers live up to their name and have them explore and map out the entire world. Just cause tehre were no players in the immediate regions doesn't mean there aren't any beyond their borders further out. You have to look at it from Ainz's perspective not that of a omniscient spectator/reader. Yea you are probably right but if you just look at the already discovered world he could easily take it over without killing a single person or even without the public knowing that's why this elaborate plan of demiurge to probably take over the Holy Kingdom and reveal Ainz as Mormon (just a guess of mine) seems a little unessecary. If there's a point of him dying, it'll be to lure "some player who might be hiding in the holy kingdom" against Demiurge....If there's none, PLAN B> Ainz revive like easily and staging a rematch then making Jaldabaoth a retainer publicly. Thus, putting more pressure to nearby countries. Though I don't think there's even a point in taking a scarce Holy Kingdom now either as an allied country. If Ainz is planning to "die", my guess is that he's not gonna bother saving that country due to circumstances of him "dying". |
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Zaphkiel_El_Rem said: Your theory with him trying to lure out potential enermies does sound plausible but I do think that he ll reveal himself as Mormon simply because Mormon doesn't really have a purpose anymore. I think it ll go like that Ainz "dies" Jaldaboath takes over the entire Holy Kingdom then Mormon appear beats Jaldaboath and then reveals himself as Ainz afterwords he can take the ruins of the Holy Kingdom given that there isn't really anyone left.xShinigami3125 said: I don't really think there's an astronomical chance of introducing Momon as Ainz himself, that would be like slapping the kingdom in the face that their hero(Momon) was also their absolute genocider, if that happens, they'll be like "oh lord in heaven, let this world end already" KEK. But it doesn't really matter since the Kingdom is already in their hands because of Princess Renner and the 8 fingers. Not worth to mention the Empire is too.Yea you are probably right but if you just look at the already discovered world he could easily take it over without killing a single person or even without the public knowing that's why this elaborate plan of demiurge to probably take over the Holy Kingdom and reveal Ainz as Mormon (just a guess of mine) seems a little unessecary. If there's a point of him dying, it'll be to lure "some player who might be hiding in the holy kingdom" against Demiurge....If there's none, PLAN B> Ainz revive like easily and staging a rematch then making Jaldabaoth a retainer publicly. Thus, putting more pressure to nearby countries. Though I don't think there's even a point in taking a scarce Holy Kingdom now either as an allied country. If Ainz is planning to "die", my guess is that he's not gonna bother saving that country due to circumstances of him "dying". And yea mormons reveal would be a slap in the face for the Kingsok but like you already said they are pretty much irrelevant and like 95% under his control anyways |
| i thought it was kinda boring |
| New nation, new characters, new locations, new enemies, new plans, ahh so many fresh contents! I read this volume some months ago, I got a lot of things I like and don't like to point out, but above all... Neia's character seems so adorable! |
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