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Dec 1, 2016 6:07 PM
#51
@Noboru LOL! Well i didn't say i love all meta things. Well about boundless love, that's not true. Many many people have no concept of boundless true/deep love, and think love means sex. That's actually a fundamental problem of modern society (amongst many others). |
Dec 1, 2016 9:42 PM
#52
@GenesisAria : Sounded like that, though. Not all meta things but most, then? ^^ Ah seems like you equate "boundless" with "true"/"deep". Why do you think it's a Problem when others equate Love with Sex? It's the Main Purpose of Love to create/maintain our Society and as long as the People get along with each other, it's even better than having a Marriage of People that have "boundless" Love at the Beginning, but find out later that "boundless" is not boundless. |
Dec 1, 2016 9:53 PM
#53
When you want to have kids with them, I guess. Or at least that's what the toothbrush girl from Nisemonogatari said. |
Dec 1, 2016 11:46 PM
#54
Noboru said: Because reproduction is not the impetus; it's the side effect. The result is we happen to be able to persist as a species. Love doesn't have a purpose, nature is neutral and unmotivated, it merely exists as it must.@GenesisAria : Why do you think it's a Problem when others equate Love with Sex? It's the Main Purpose of Love to create/maintain our Society and as long as the People get along with each other, it's even better than having a Marriage of People that have "boundless" Love at the Beginning, but find out later that "boundless" is not boundless. Love is acceleration, counterspace (attraction); acceleration to that which resonates with you counterspatially. It's more a law than a function. All things that exist either force apart or accelerate together or find a balance. Without attraction, there would be no reproduction... the cause comes before the effect. 2 people coming together is the same as gravity or magnets coming together, not figuratively, but literally, just at a different phase. What we emotionally equate to love is just a human artist's rendition of that law. Ps: That isn't demeaning what love is, it's actually a necessitative scientific law which proves love exists and must exist. As without it, the side effect of reproduction would not have happened, and life would not exist. When people say corny stuff like love changes the world (like a certain drag queen in gurren lagann) it's completely true. |
GenesisAriaDec 2, 2016 12:04 AM
Dec 1, 2016 11:58 PM
#55
I think the 19th century French romanticist writer puts it best... |
Dec 2, 2016 12:21 AM
#56
its sort of like your on a drug . . . . . . . |
Dec 2, 2016 12:24 AM
#57
@CapitalistGod Well there's 2 ways t fall in love. 1) to already be on the same wavelength so you resonate once you meet 2) over time you change your wavelength to match eachother until love grows more coherent. Most people consider the latter to be more realistic because it's more common/likely, forgetting that the former also happens. But yes, you won't even get to know anyone and potentially love later, if you've never seen or met them. Delusion of love: that it's possible despite having different wavelengths and not trying to get them in phase. This is why there's so many couples who fight, and divorces that result. @UnpopularAnime Well that's what it does mechanically in your brain when the resonance occurs: it releases hormones and crap in your brain in order to motivate it, thus it's a natural drug. Attraction > emotion > brain drugs > more attraction > more emotions > more brain drugs........ That's why it can cause people so much problems, because it's a resonating positive feedback loop. |
GenesisAriaDec 2, 2016 12:29 AM
Dec 2, 2016 1:30 AM
#58
GenesisAria said: Noboru said: Because reproduction is not the impetus; it's the side effect. The result is we happen to be able to persist as a species. Love doesn't have a purpose, nature is neutral and unmotivated, it merely exists as it must.@GenesisAria : Why do you think it's a Problem when others equate Love with Sex? It's the Main Purpose of Love to create/maintain our Society and as long as the People get along with each other, it's even better than having a Marriage of People that have "boundless" Love at the Beginning, but find out later that "boundless" is not boundless. Love is acceleration, counterspace (attraction); acceleration to that which resonates with you counterspatially. It's more a law than a function. All things that exist either force apart or accelerate together or find a balance. Without attraction, there would be no reproduction... the cause comes before the effect. 2 people coming together is the same as gravity or magnets coming together, not figuratively, but literally, just at a different phase. What we emotionally equate to love is just a human artist's rendition of that law. Ps: That isn't demeaning what love is, it's actually a necessitative scientific law which proves love exists and must exist. As without it, the side effect of reproduction would not have happened, and life would not exist. When people say corny stuff like love changes the world (like a certain drag queen in gurren lagann) it's completely true. "What we emotionally equate to love is just a human artist's rendition of that law." - This is a beautiful sentence, but it proves love is about breeding, not about deep connection to good people. |
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Dec 2, 2016 2:35 AM
#59
@TheBrainintheJar But it's not, as i said it's about universal attractive acceleration (mistakenly called a force). Love is attraction, breeding comes as a side effect of unity. |
Dec 2, 2016 3:54 AM
#60
kamalashki said: u know ur in love when u fap to her fb pics No, that just sounds like lust. Sazerlim said: Being in love wastes my time. I have anime to watch. No more truths have ever been spoken xD |
Dec 2, 2016 9:39 AM
#61
GenesisAria said: I thought Love was about having the general Framework set so that a Species could live in Harmony with each other and take Care of the new Generation.Because reproduction is not the impetus; it's the side effect. The result is we happen to be able to persist as a species. Love doesn't have a purpose, nature is neutral and unmotivated, it merely exists as it must. Hmm, so People are just like Magnets? But then what about onesided Love? How would a Magnet taking another Magnet in be possible, but not the Reverse? |
NoboruDec 2, 2016 10:54 AM
Dec 2, 2016 9:44 AM
#62
@Noboru Well it's obviously not that simple... If a magnet is attracting to another magnet, it doesn't mean you can't attract on the other side. You aren't necessarily accelerating towards eachother, but you accelerate towards your love, and moving that person in the process, gravitating. it's the same as social interaction which we seek, and ended up being necessity, there other things are just different forms, different levels. |
Dec 2, 2016 10:52 AM
#63
I think when you feel so happy every time you think of them or talk to them and dream of going on a date with them and being a couple or marrying them or having a family with them? - although some anime fans also feel this way to their favorite anime characters... |
Dec 2, 2016 12:08 PM
#64
@GenesisAria : Then it's more accurate to compare it with an Orb - oh wait, "Orbiter" as a Term exists as well. So People would just go on their Pathways and if the Gravitation is strong enough, they will come together. Otherwise, they will just maintain a certain Distance or diverge. btw.: Is there an opposite Force of Gravitation? |
Dec 2, 2016 12:38 PM
#65
@Noboru Gravitation is acceleration, loss of force, falling (you "fall for them"). The opposite of it is radiative force(inertia), repulsion. People have been using accurate terms all along without realizing it. Right for the wrong reasons. |
Dec 2, 2016 12:46 PM
#66
This is a mandatory post. |
Dec 2, 2016 1:22 PM
#67
@GenesisAria : I thought, Gravitation was one of the four Forces, so how can it be "loss of force"? Oh right, so that's what it's called in English (Inertia) ... can't believe I couldn't come up with it. >.< Anyway, it sounds ironic how accurate the Terms are. Maybe ancient People had a much deeper Understanding of the Words and only the Usage of the Sayings, Proverbs and Expressions got passed on instead of the full Meaning. From the Etymology, "love" is related to "desire", "please", "care" and "praise". All Aspects, that People may unconsciously include in their Definitions of Love, but get easily cut out if they just restrict the Usage to a (very) strong Feeling of Liking something or someone. |
Dec 2, 2016 2:10 PM
#68
@Noboru Naw, there's only one force, and that's inertia (and the loss of). Gravity, magnetism, and electricity are just patterns of it. Yeah it definitely does seem that the farther you go back, the more sophistication you can find on the subject. |
Dec 2, 2016 3:21 PM
#69
@GenesisAria : I see, Sloth/Sluggishness seems to be really the greatest Force of Humanity xP Wouldn't there be a Point in History for which Language would have to be less sophisticated than today? If yes: what has caused that Chance and why did the Sophistication vanish? Are we missing the Love for it? |
Dec 2, 2016 3:51 PM
#70
Firstly when you like someone and they don't know, you feel butterflies in your stomach especially if you're shy person. When you talk to them it for the first time the tickle gets intense. After being used to hanging out with them, you'll become more comfortable with them and then the butterfly effect will subside overtime until you do something that you never done before such as asking them on a date. When you have a date with them then you'll being much closer and then you develop extreme feelings for them. And then you may become boyfriends or girlfriends. Maybe you see them talking to another person who is the same gender as you... Then that's when you feel pain, the pain in your heart, it doesn't bleed but it hurts a lot especially if the other person starts flirting with your so called girl/boyfriend. The pain is inevitable and it shows that you have a tinge of jealousy, you don't want to lose them. Until you talk that out with your gf/bf that is the days of pain and suffering. While you have your gf/bf, you tell much you love them and maybe talk about the future of your life with your bf/gf, you want to protect them and never lose them out of your sight. That is love... Guess what, I don't know what I said so comment all you want Okay? Okay ;) |
Dec 2, 2016 11:53 PM
#71
GenesisAria said: @TheBrainintheJar But it's not, as i said it's about universal attractive acceleration (mistakenly called a force). Love is attraction, breeding comes as a side effect of unity. Why do you think breeding comes as a side effect, and isn't actually what drives love in the first place - the desire to ensure your genes survive? |
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Dec 3, 2016 12:14 AM
#72
Noboru said: Sloth? Where did that come from?@GenesisAria : I see, Sloth/Sluggishness seems to be really the greatest Force of Humanity xP Wouldn't there be a Point in History for which Language would have to be less sophisticated than today? If yes: what has caused that Chance and why did the Sophistication vanish? Are we missing the Love for it? The sophistication would vanish as society degraded, things like the dark ages etc. Yeah, we are lacking the love for wisdoms such as love - philo sophia. @TheBrainintheJar Because breeding would have been a thing before humans had a brain to cause such impetus or exist in the first place. Just think about it for a bit: if the drive to come together was because of a desire to reproduce, what created that desire? God? The only way to explain a universe that works, is in a way that it can (god or not) perpetuate itself. The inception of the desire to reproduce, would had to have been caused by reproduction happening first due to something causing 2 lifeforms to interact. Hence love as universal attractive acceleration. Things that are apart, must come together, the convective dynamo of inertia and acceleration, like the yin and yang. Division happens when you collide. Keep in mind i'm thinking of this in how it applies to everything from humans to plants to animals to microbes. "I want to reproduce and keep my species alive" is a complex logical thought process, not something microbes and plants or most animals are capable of, they just reproduce automatically as if it's just physics that they'll eventually mate. Calling it a desire to reproduce is both convolution it and demeaning it in ways that just don't make sense. As i said, the simplest way to put it: love is acceleration (attraction), the loss of the repulsion (inertia) which keeps people at a distance. We turn it into this big romantic art socially, to make it beautiful, or rather to understand it's beauty. The dance of force and loss of force is the beauty which runs the universe, and uncoincidentally, also our hearts. |
GenesisAriaDec 3, 2016 12:26 AM
Dec 3, 2016 1:51 AM
#73
GenesisAria said: It's because the German Word for "Inertia", "Trägheit", also means "Laziness" or "Sloth" in a figurative Sense.Sloth? Where did that come from? The sophistication would vanish as society degraded, things like the dark ages etc. Yeah, we are lacking the love for wisdoms such as love - philo sophia. Love is a Wisdom? |
Dec 3, 2016 2:01 AM
#74
@Noboru No, the wisdom of understanding love is lost. The philosophy of love degraded to a mere artist rendition and functional tool which nobody seems to understand anymore. When people don't understand it, they don't know how to deal with it. Hence: "what is love?" Inertia means force, it's the universal force of motion/suspension. Referring to the original denotation, not the modern connotation of kinetic resistance. Truly lazy would stop forcing inertia and just fall uncaringly back into counterspatial acceleration. Falling in love is lazy, opposing it is inertia. |
Dec 3, 2016 10:29 AM
#75
When you get goosebumps and feel butterflies in your stomach. :) You can be in love with a car, a cat, the sky, your shoes, or.. you know... a person.. |
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Dec 3, 2016 11:41 AM
#76
GenesisAria said: Noboru said: Sloth? Where did that come from?@GenesisAria : I see, Sloth/Sluggishness seems to be really the greatest Force of Humanity xP Wouldn't there be a Point in History for which Language would have to be less sophisticated than today? If yes: what has caused that Chance and why did the Sophistication vanish? Are we missing the Love for it? The sophistication would vanish as society degraded, things like the dark ages etc. Yeah, we are lacking the love for wisdoms such as love - philo sophia. @TheBrainintheJar Because breeding would have been a thing before humans had a brain to cause such impetus or exist in the first place. Just think about it for a bit: if the drive to come together was because of a desire to reproduce, what created that desire? God? The only way to explain a universe that works, is in a way that it can (god or not) perpetuate itself. The inception of the desire to reproduce, would had to have been caused by reproduction happening first due to something causing 2 lifeforms to interact. Hence love as universal attractive acceleration. Things that are apart, must come together, the convective dynamo of inertia and acceleration, like the yin and yang. Division happens when you collide. Keep in mind i'm thinking of this in how it applies to everything from humans to plants to animals to microbes. "I want to reproduce and keep my species alive" is a complex logical thought process, not something microbes and plants or most animals are capable of, they just reproduce automatically as if it's just physics that they'll eventually mate. Calling it a desire to reproduce is both convolution it and demeaning it in ways that just don't make sense. As i said, the simplest way to put it: love is acceleration (attraction), the loss of the repulsion (inertia) which keeps people at a distance. We turn it into this big romantic art socially, to make it beautiful, or rather to understand it's beauty. The dance of force and loss of force is the beauty which runs the universe, and uncoincidentally, also our hearts. Actually, I believe that the term 'breeding' is older than the organ 'brain'. Bacteria breed, and they don't have a brain. |
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Dec 3, 2016 1:13 PM
#77
GenesisAria said: "Inertia" has originally meant "Unskillfulness" or "Ignorance". "Idleness" or "Inactivity" came later. "Trägheit" (unfortunately, there aren't any detailed etymological information in English) has to do with "Slowness" and "Schwerfälligkeit" ("Heavy-/Hard-Fallingness", whereas "schwerfallen" = "(to) be difficult (for)"), which is used for the State in which Things barely move.Inertia means force, it's the universal force of motion/suspension. Referring to the original denotation, not the modern connotation of kinetic resistance. Truly lazy would stop forcing inertia and just fall uncaringly back into counterspatial acceleration. Falling in love is lazy, opposing it is inertia. "lazy" just means that you don't move much. You are hard to move, then, so you're "träge". The Contrast to Inertia is Gravity, "Gravitation" or "Schwerkraft" ("Heavy-Force"). There is an alternative German Term called "Anziehungskraft", which is roughly "Pulling-in Force", the Force that pulls other Things in. "Anziehung(skraft)" can also mean "Attraction" in the Sense of something attracts something, so I can understand the Relationship between "Gravity" ("Anziehungskraft") and "Attraction" ("Anziehung(skraft)"), since they're both pretty much identical. Can modern People recover the Meaning through Retroduction? If so, what are the concrete Steps to do or in other Words: how did you come up with your Answer? What were the Thoughts you had when you heard about that Topic? (not asking you about private Stuff, but rather about the Meta-Stuff) |
Dec 3, 2016 2:31 PM
#78
@Noboru Even in your linked definition, it says about "rest" or rectilinear motion, however since there are technically no straight lines in the universe, and no such thing as stillness other than in counterspace which is neutral æther, aka nothing. If something is "still" it's still technically in motion. Inertia is the definition of every state of motion. Interactions between those motions cause delta in that inertia. It's all the same. "Gravity" as a force doesn't exist, it's the loss of force, acceleration, falling. It's what happens when there's a loss of energy. You fall to a planet, because the planet absorbs the force holding you up. I can't really say exactly how i come to my answers without a lot of thinking it over. Once you know enough about how certain things work, other things related to them are just blatantly obvious. I'd actually never thought of love as the loss of inertia ("gravity") until before this thread, then i wait, "oh wait, it's the same thing." TheBrainintheJar said: They don't breed, they divide.Actually, I believe that the term 'breeding' is older than the organ 'brain'. Bacteria breed, and they don't have a brain. |
Dec 3, 2016 3:50 PM
#79
@GenesisAria: That's because the Definition was coined by a Person during a Time in which Ancient Wisdom had already been lost. Do you know if the Old Greek or whatever High Culture (ermm, Advanced Civilization) from the Antique already had Terms for Inertia and if yes, what they were called? As for Gravity, just a quick Question, but are we talking about a) the Thing that keeps us on the Ground here on Earth (aka "Schwerkraft") b) the Thing that keeps the Moon circulating around the Earth and both of them around the Sun (aka "Anziehungskraft") or c) both? I can't really say exactly how i come to my answers without a lot of thinking it over. Once you know enough about how certain things work, other things related to them are just blatantly obvious. That's a bit of a Pity. Would have really liked to understand how reductive Thought-Processes would work with one concrete Example. Like what mental Image or verbal Thought made the Connection, the Heureka-Moment in your Mind. |
Dec 3, 2016 4:16 PM
#80
For some odd reason.. I feel content when I feel this "love" and am able to live in peace. I think the more you complicate it, it dissolves into a hindrance. So until you are content with this "love" then the more at peace you will be in. :b |
Dec 3, 2016 11:16 PM
#82
GenesisAria said: @Noboru Even in your linked definition, it says about "rest" or rectilinear motion, however since there are technically no straight lines in the universe, and no such thing as stillness other than in counterspace which is neutral æther, aka nothing. If something is "still" it's still technically in motion. Inertia is the definition of every state of motion. Interactions between those motions cause delta in that inertia. It's all the same. "Gravity" as a force doesn't exist, it's the loss of force, acceleration, falling. It's what happens when there's a loss of energy. You fall to a planet, because the planet absorbs the force holding you up. I can't really say exactly how i come to my answers without a lot of thinking it over. Once you know enough about how certain things work, other things related to them are just blatantly obvious. I'd actually never thought of love as the loss of inertia ("gravity") until before this thread, then i wait, "oh wait, it's the same thing." TheBrainintheJar said: They don't breed, they divide.Actually, I believe that the term 'breeding' is older than the organ 'brain'. Bacteria breed, and they don't have a brain. What about plants and mushroomes? They don't have brains, yet they breed. |
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Dec 4, 2016 2:28 AM
#83
@TheBrainintheJar They're brought together by chance and attractive acceleration. Similar wavelengths resonate amplitude positively in force, but can also resonate negatively in acceleration. |
Dec 4, 2016 2:16 PM
#84
GenesisAria said: @TheBrainintheJar They're brought together by chance and attractive acceleration. Similar wavelengths resonate amplitude positively in force, but can also resonate negatively in acceleration. Any scientific paper that can elaborate on this? |
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Dec 4, 2016 3:11 PM
#85
@TheBrainintheJar Not that i have, but it's just how matter works - cellular membranes and solubility - coupled with "static electricity" which is nothing more than magnetic acceleration. There's tons of books and whatnot on the electrical behaviours of all kinds of life, but i don't care enough to dig them up. I'm a unified field theorist, not a biologist. It's necessitative that accelerative loss of inertia must play primary rolls i'm not gonna be able to tell you in what conjugation. |
Dec 4, 2016 3:35 PM
#86
I have no idea, honestly... I have absolutely no experience with romance, :( |
Dec 4, 2016 4:36 PM
#87
I've never had a lover, but I imagine love is something like this: |
Dec 5, 2016 2:48 PM
#88
kamalashki said: Otaku-Gunso said: kamalashki said: u know ur in love when u fap to her fb pics No, that just sounds like lust. Sazerlim said: Being in love wastes my time. I have anime to watch. No more truths have ever been spoken xD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLpeX4RRo28 sounds pretty legit x) |
Dec 5, 2016 10:16 PM
#89
GenesisAria said: @TheBrainintheJar Not that i have, but it's just how matter works - cellular membranes and solubility - coupled with "static electricity" which is nothing more than magnetic acceleration. There's tons of books and whatnot on the electrical behaviours of all kinds of life, but i don't care enough to dig them up. I'm a unified field theorist, not a biologist. It's necessitative that accelerative loss of inertia must play primary rolls i'm not gonna be able to tell you in what conjugation. If you don't care enough to show anything that backs your statement, oh well, what can I say? |
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Dec 6, 2016 3:24 AM
#90
@TheBrainintheJar You're welcome to research yourself if you're curious. I don't keep convenient papers and articles laying around to link when random topics come up. |
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