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Jun 21, 2016 9:36 AM
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This is a puzzle that is attributed to Einstein. We don't know for sure if this is true, but it is a nice puzzle. Also, supposedly only 2% of the human population can solve this. I think that is obviously false because this problem is more about patience rather than intelligence, but it would still be interesting to see how many mal members can solve it.



Answer using spoiler tags please, and include your reasoning if you can.
InsaniusJun 21, 2016 10:00 AM
Jun 21, 2016 9:57 AM
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It took me a while to solve this like you said lol but

Jun 21, 2016 9:59 AM
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Dimethylanime said:
It took me a while to solve this like you said lol but


Your answer would be perfect if you didn't mention Albert. Who the fuck is Albert?
Jun 21, 2016 10:04 AM
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I think I did something similar in the past. Don't know if it was this version or another (easier) version. Probably an easier version. You need to apply all the statements - until you have used them all ... then you should be able to deduct who owns the fish.

Jun 21, 2016 10:06 AM
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Luthandorius said:
I think I did something similar in the past. Don't know if it was this version or another (easier) version. Probably an easier version. You need to apply all the statements - until you have used them all ... then you should be able to deduct who owns the fish.



This problem isn't very difficult tbh, you will need to make some logical conclusions initially, but the problem solves itself from there.
Jun 21, 2016 10:17 AM
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Maybe its


I have some messages to Albert:


Minnim said:

Your answer would be perfect if you didn't mention Albert. Who the fuck is Albert?

Are you being sarcastic?
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Jun 21, 2016 10:21 AM
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Jun 21, 2016 10:25 AM
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Luthandorius said:


Doing this without a table is impossible, really.
Jun 21, 2016 10:35 AM
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For Fish only left:
Jun 21, 2016 10:37 AM

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I can't draw a table here so let's pretend my columns are aligned.


I found it easier to draw up a table (kinda like how all five houses would look on a street) and put in new info accordingly. Mostly process of elimination here.
Jun 21, 2016 10:38 AM

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Luthandorius said:


For Fish only left:


Yep, you got it. Took you a while though.
Jun 21, 2016 10:41 AM

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velvetprayer said:
I can't draw a table here so let's pretend my columns are aligned.


I found it easier to draw up a table (kinda like how all five houses would look on a street) and put in new info accordingly. Mostly process of elimination here.


Yeah, that is correct. How long did it take?
Jun 21, 2016 10:50 AM

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Minnim said:
velvetprayer said:
I can't draw a table here so let's pretend my columns are aligned.


I found it easier to draw up a table (kinda like how all five houses would look on a street) and put in new info accordingly. Mostly process of elimination here.


Yeah, that is correct. How long did it take?

I didn't take note of the time. I started scribbling away after seeing the puzzle. Nah, definitely more than 45mins :o
velvetprayerJun 21, 2016 10:56 AM
Jun 21, 2016 10:58 AM

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Ryfour said:
Easy, Only took me a few re-readings to figure it out.


Use the spoilers please!

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Jun 21, 2016 11:02 AM

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Minnim said:
The Blend smoker has a neighbor who drinks water.
Well, I would certainly hope so....
Jun 21, 2016 11:15 AM
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It's pretty though without cheating...

Over 20 min to do it maybe 30 i dunno

if i was serious, it would take around 10-15 min...



I think i understand now why only 2% of people can do it.
Jun 21, 2016 11:24 AM

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leonstone said:
I tried this with my family long ago, it didn't take much time, and everyone solved it.
so the only 2% of the population can solve it is just bullshit.


Yeah, that's what I thought as well, this isn't really about intelligence.
Jun 21, 2016 11:28 AM

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I think there might be still a lot of people that can't solve it. They just might be confused and don't really try. Or they are in trouble after doing the 1st steps when they need to think a little bit more. Probably also depends on country and the educational systems there. If people only have to work hard and less eduction ... the brain/mind is not trained well enough.

If you went to school ... doin mathematics (based a lot on logics) and other stuff it is easier to do such puzzles. The 2 percent might only have been a rough guess and maybe that was based on the time back then when Einstein lived and education maybe was different back then.
Jun 21, 2016 11:36 AM

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never ever is this a riddle for only 2%, more like 80-90%. took me 10 minutes while listening to euro dance, with a table though


Jun 21, 2016 11:45 AM
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No, only 2% can solve it without cheating.

Cheating by using a paper sheet i meant lol trust me, i struggled a lot.

To solve it without, you really need to find some 'fix point' and be able to do deductive thinking while keeping in mind while you know already.

I don't think everyone can do it.

With a paper i would have done it in the blink of an eye.

So the thing is more about how far can you go before you have some problem.

For example, i found the color of houses and the others easy info to get in like 2-3 min. Real struggle was with Danish and Pall. Having all these informations and deducing without being confused was a pain. Really.
Jun 27, 2016 9:55 AM

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I think did it without cheating!
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Jun 27, 2016 10:03 AM

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Shiratori-san said:
I think did it without cheating!


Yeah, that's correct. It's not hard.
Jun 27, 2016 11:14 AM

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ok I just did it by using what they gave us and making a visual kind of chart thingy, but i got

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Jun 27, 2016 1:33 PM

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Took me 6 minutes to solve it. The only real stretch of imagination was to figure out how to fill in the five blank spaces (houses) in the correct order. The rest was simple backtracking and filling in the blanks which required deliberation more than thinking.

The answer is:


The most important clues are:
1. The green house is just to the left of the white one.
2. The man in the center house drinks milk.
3. The Norwegian lives next to the blue house. + Norwegian's lives in first house.

These 3 attack the heart of the matter: the order of the houses.

PS y u alwayz post puzzles when im on hiatus?
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No, only 2% can solve it without cheating.

Cheating by using a paper sheet i meant lol trust me, i struggled a lot.

To solve it without, you really need to find some 'fix point' and be able to do deductive thinking while keeping in mind while you know already.

I don't think everyone can do it.

With a paper i would have done it in the blink of an eye.

So the thing is more about how far can you go before you have some problem.

For example, i found the color of houses and the others easy info to get in like 2-3 min. Real struggle was with Danish and Pall. Having all these informations and deducing without being confused was a pain. Really.


It's humanly impossible to solve it in the head. It's not a step by step riddle where you would only have to retain the conclusion of the last deduction you made. You have to retain the entire 'information' given there. No human mind is capable of that.

Though I think John Von Neumann would've been able to solve it in his head....well, he was an alien anyway.
Jun 27, 2016 2:07 PM
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xEmptiness said:

It's humanly impossible to solve it in the head.

I say it wouldn't be that far fetched that only 2% can solve it in their head though.
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xEmptiness said:

It's humanly impossible to solve it in the head.

I say it wouldn't be that far fetched that only 2% can solve it in their head though.


If we're speaking of the 2% then I'm up there lol

MENSA members are the 2% of the world (I'm not MENSA member but I compete with em); top 2% is just IQ > 130. It's not possible unless we're talking of Neumann or Feynman or someone of their caliber. That would be 0.0001% or something. Not 2%.
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xEmptiness said:
TiaDee said:

I say it wouldn't be that far fetched that only 2% can solve it in their head though.


If we're speaking of the 2% then I'm up there lol

MENSA members are the 2% of the world (I'm not MENSA member but I compete with em); top 2% is just IQ > 130. It's not possible unless we're talking of Neumann or Feynman or someone of their caliber. That would be 0.0001% or something. Not 2%.

Well never been that interested in MENSA so I'm a bit at a loss with the direction this conversation is going, but anyhow, I'm inclined to believe that individuals such as the ones that take part in World Memory Championships would be able to solve this puzzle in their head. After all it's not the puzzle itself that's hard, but the necessity to store and organise all the clues in one's mind first.
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TiaDee said:
xEmptiness said:


If we're speaking of the 2% then I'm up there lol

MENSA members are the 2% of the world (I'm not MENSA member but I compete with em); top 2% is just IQ > 130. It's not possible unless we're talking of Neumann or Feynman or someone of their caliber. That would be 0.0001% or something. Not 2%.

Well never been that interested in MENSA so I'm a bit at a loss with the direction this conversation is going, but anyhow, I'm inclined to believe that individuals such as the ones that take part in World Memory Championships would be able to solve this puzzle in their head. After all it's not the puzzle itself that's hard, but the necessity to store and organise all the clues in one's mind first.


And that's the problem. Short-term memory of us humans isn't that powerful. You can cram the information but that'll take you way too long. It's simply not possible.
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xEmptiness said:
Took me 6 minutes to solve it. The only real stretch of imagination was to figure out how to fill in the five blank spaces (houses) in the correct order. The rest was simple backtracking and filling in the blanks which required deliberation more than thinking.

The answer is:


The most important clues are:
1. The green house is just to the left of the white one.
2. The man in the center house drinks milk.
3. The Norwegian lives next to the blue house. + Norwegian's lives in first house.

These 3 attack the heart of the matter: the order of the houses.

PS y u alwayz post puzzles when im on hiatus?
GranKuwagamon said:
No, only 2% can solve it without cheating.

Cheating by using a paper sheet i meant lol trust me, i struggled a lot.

To solve it without, you really need to find some 'fix point' and be able to do deductive thinking while keeping in mind while you know already.

I don't think everyone can do it.

With a paper i would have done it in the blink of an eye.

So the thing is more about how far can you go before you have some problem.

For example, i found the color of houses and the others easy info to get in like 2-3 min. Real struggle was with Danish and Pall. Having all these informations and deducing without being confused was a pain. Really.


It's humanly impossible to solve it in the head. It's not a step by step riddle where you would only have to retain the conclusion of the last deduction you made. You have to retain the entire 'information' given there. No human mind is capable of that.

Though I think John Von Neumann would've been able to solve it in his head....well, he was an alien anyway.


It's not like I post new puzzles every week. Just a random coincidence that you were on hiatus when I posted this, so don't get offended or something. 6 minutes is impressive, took me 10 minutes myself iirc.
Jun 27, 2016 2:32 PM
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@xEmptiness
Soo you're telling me that individuals that can memorise whole cards packages and cards' order in less than one minute couldn't remember 20(ish) simple sentences?
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@xEmptiness
Soo you're telling me that individuals that can memorise whole cards packages and cards' order in less than one minute couldn't remember 20(ish) simple sentences?


Those aren't the 2% lol

Refer to this:
It's not possible unless we're talking of Neumann or Feynman or someone of their caliber. That would be 0.0001% or something. Not 2%.


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