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mrbakchoi888 said: yeah i would like to see yuzuki get mad that asuka was getting too close to haruto and the fact that she lives right next to him too.i want to see yuzuki feel jealous as i dont think that it is ever shown in the manga yet or at least not that i remember. they should make like a side story where kazama is still alive to see what everyone does. Yeah, that kind of spin off would probably be more insteresting than some of the lame latest chapters of the manga. |
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| that fucking helmet man..it gets me all the time. |
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jose21 said: mrbakchoi888 said: yeah i would like to see yuzuki get mad that asuka was getting too close to haruto and the fact that she lives right next to him too.i want to see yuzuki feel jealous as i dont think that it is ever shown in the manga yet or at least not that i remember. they should make like a side story where kazama is still alive to see what everyone does. Yeah, that kind of spin off would probably be more insteresting than some of the lame latest chapters of the manga. |
mrbakchoi888 said: jose21 said: mrbakchoi888 said: yeah i would like to see yuzuki get mad that asuka was getting too close to haruto and the fact that she lives right next to him too.i want to see yuzuki feel jealous as i dont think that it is ever shown in the manga yet or at least not that i remember. they should make like a side story where kazama is still alive to see what everyone does. Yeah, that kind of spin off would probably be more insteresting than some of the lame latest chapters of the manga. |
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jose21 said: mrbakchoi888 said: jose21 said: mrbakchoi888 said: yeah i would like to see yuzuki get mad that asuka was getting too close to haruto and the fact that she lives right next to him too.i want to see yuzuki feel jealous as i dont think that it is ever shown in the manga yet or at least not that i remember. they should make like a side story where kazama is still alive to see what everyone does. Yeah, that kind of spin off would probably be more insteresting than some of the lame latest chapters of the manga. |
| The pacing just went up on this and I'm sad they didn't animate some stuff of this arc I really would love to see. Well it came a lot quicker then usually but I'm still sad about this even though I knew it was coming and that helmet. It will always get me those two will always be friends. |
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| No, Kazuma >< He was my fav character so far. I understand that the only way for the plot to go on was to get rid of Kazuma somehow. But right at the beggining of the episode they throw your hopes up saying that Kazuma could be safed, only to kill him 10 minutes later... Damn, and the helmet, DAMN! If I were Haruto I would have bursted right there. |
| Kiyomi <3 13:52 wth, so he died? the pacing's too ph-fast, fgs. Meh. A better anime studio should remake this. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
| this studio tries too hard... terrible bg music and sad scenes uses stupid gloomy colors -___-. skipped lots of good moments |
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| what the what |
xhx said: this studio tries too hard... terrible bg music and sad scenes uses stupid gloomy colors -___-. skipped lots of good moments yeah a lot of scenes werent shown like kiyomi confessing her love for kazama with the canned food plan which i thought was the funniest scene and i thought yuzuki said that "we shouldnt see each other anymore(manga)" instead of "i wonder if we'll ever meet again(anime)." |
mrbakchoi888 said: xhx said: this studio tries too hard... terrible bg music and sad scenes uses stupid gloomy colors -___-. skipped lots of good moments yeah a lot of scenes werent shown like kiyomi confessing her love for kazama with the canned food plan which i thought was the funniest scene and i thought yuzuki said that "we shouldnt see each other anymore(manga)" instead of "i wonder if we'll ever meet again(anime)." I know what you mean about the last line. I asked Doki to double check the translation and the guy that answered had two people confirm their translation. He said the original in Japanese was: 私たちもう会うこともないのかな？ I'm going to look for the raw manga and see if it is different. (Not that I can read it...) |
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| I thought Eba jumped off the cliff when she said they won't see each other again. |
Zero_r2 said: that was fast!!! you shouldnt kill characters so fast!! it was even faster than Kamina!!! god my heart... as someone who hasn't read the manga i can only say... KAZUMA!!!! TT_TT YY^YY ;n; ◕n◕ Kazama lasted 7 episodes. If that was shorter than Kamina, then (KamiInai spoiler-ish) Also, what is up with all the manga discussion in here? I have never seen so much un-spoilered spoiler material in an episode thread ever. |
dgw said: Zero_r2 said: that was fast!!! you shouldnt kill characters so fast!! it was even faster than Kamina!!! god my heart... as someone who hasn't read the manga i can only say... KAZUMA!!!! TT_TT YY^YY ;n; ◕n◕ Kazama lasted 7 episodes. If that was shorter than Kamina, then (KamiInai spoiler-ish) Also, what is up with all the manga discussion in here? I have never seen so much un-spoilered spoiler material in an episode thread ever. im just comparing it to the manga because the anime skipped a lot of scenes which wouldve made kazama live for about a couple more episodes but the pacing in this episode was way too fast which didnt make it that emotional that kazama died in my opinion as we was alive and a few seconds later hes dead. |
| what?! kuzuma dead now? that was fast.. :/ and eba -_- what she trying to said in the end? -_- |
| AAAAAHHHHH he died!!! |
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| Wow. They skipped a lot of stuff. |
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| can anyone tell me if yuzuki really love kazama? or did she just pretend to be his boyfriend out of pity i think both of them are wrong yuzuki already rejected kazama (in the past) still he did use his illness to beg her to date him(very selfish) and yuzuki if she doesnt really love kazama y did she accept, she is selfish too, trying to comfort a sick person by giving what they cant possibly have is cruel BUT if she really do love him then its ok, but then still she is a bitch cheating haruto |
na35899 said: can anyone tell me if yuzuki really love kazama? or did she just pretend to be his boyfriend out of pity Pity. I'm sure she liked him as a friend but it wasn't love. |
2-D said: na35899 said: can anyone tell me if yuzuki really love kazama? or did she just pretend to be his boyfriend out of pity Pity. I'm sure she liked him as a friend but it wasn't love. thank you |
na35899 said: can anyone tell me if yuzuki really love kazama? or did she just pretend to be his boyfriend out of pity i think both of them are wrong yuzuki already rejected kazama (in the past) still he did use his illness to beg her to date him(very selfish) and yuzuki if she doesnt really love kazama y did she accept, she is selfish too, trying to comfort a sick person by giving what they cant possibly have is cruel BUT if she really do love him then its ok, but then still she is a bitch cheating haruto It isn't so simple. Seo wanted to break up/cause drama/have a love triangle, but didn't want Yuzuki to look bad or do a "NTR" type plot, so he came up with this Kazama thing that doesn't really make sense. You see Yuzuki had to mysteriously dump Haruto and get a new BF, but at the same time not be cheating on Haruto This is where the sick Kazama/pity angle comes in. Oh she felt guilty and was blackmailed into it. This somehow excuses her for what she did to Haruto. Yet from the other angle, she couldn't have dumped Haruto for a blackmailing scum that would be dumb, so she had to also love Kazama for real. Kazama was supposed to be a good guy, and we couldn't have Yuzuki toying with a dying guy either. Kazama then dies so the story wouldn't have to set Yuzuki's feeling straight. In other words, Yuzuki loved Kazama when it makes he look good for loving him and didn't love him when it comes to making her look bad. She didn't date a dying guy out of pity and lie to him because that looks bad, but she did date him out of pity in order for her to not look bad. |
singleturbo said: In other words, Yuzuki loved Kazama when it makes he look good for loving him and didn't love him when it comes to making her look bad. She didn't date a dying guy out of pity and lie to him because that looks bad, but she did date him out of pity in order for her to not look bad. so... that makes her a bitch right? personal gain i guess? |
na358999Sep 15, 2013 10:24 AM
na35899 said: singleturbo said: In other words, Yuzuki loved Kazama when it makes he look good for loving him and didn't love him when it comes to making her look bad. She didn't date a dying guy out of pity and lie to him because that looks bad, but she did date him out of pity in order for her to not look bad. so... that makes her a bitch right? personal gain i guess? Well maybe The basic point is Seo wrote it in such a way where he wanted that NTR betrayal tension but without the betrayal. He wanted the drama but didn't want the negativity or complexity of redeeming the characters that comes with it. (or just letting the characters stay flawed) This is why Seo made absolutely sure to include that part where Kazama says "I would never do those things (sexual) with her." So everyone would absolutely know she didn't do anything physical with him. I mean if that were the case, why all the drama about becoming BF & GF? So essentially what we got was Yuzuki dumped Haruto to be platonic friends with a guy she was already platonic friends with. This was no different than some dramatic plot that ends with "oh it was all a dream, everybody is happy, alive, and cool! THE END" as the shocking conclusion. Now the idea of bad person for drama on the front end, later revealed to be a good person in the end is nothing new, but this attempt was extremely lazy. |
2-D said: na35899 said: can anyone tell me if yuzuki really love kazama? or did she just pretend to be his boyfriend out of pity Pity. I'm sure she liked him as a friend but it wasn't love. This^^^^^^^^^^ And if you watch carefully, Haruto liked Kazama more than Yuzuki ever did. To me the only total asshole on this story was Kazama. Yuzuki did wrong, but did she really had an option where she wouldn't feel guilty. Reject the guy and feel guilty that you could not give his dying wish to someone that helped you. Date the guy and feel guitly of hurting Haruto. Also, She could have chosen not to hurt who she trully loved (Haruto), but there was also the possibilty on that time that Haruto may have gone back to Nanami, and if that would have happen everyone would have been happy (except for her since she would have lost Haruto). |
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| holy crap i haven't expected it to get this serious... Sent with Mal Updater jose21 said: 2-D said: na35899 said: can anyone tell me if yuzuki really love kazama? or did she just pretend to be his boyfriend out of pity Pity. I'm sure she liked him as a friend but it wasn't love. This^^^^^^^^^^ And if you watch carefully, Haruto liked Kazama more than Yuzuki ever did. To me the only total asshole on this story was Kazama. Yuzuki did wrong, but did she really had an option where she wouldn't feel guilty. Reject the guy and feel guilty that you could not give his dying wish to someone that helped you. Date the guy and feel guitly of hurting Haruto. Also, She could have chosen not to hurt who she trully loved (Haruto), but there was also the possibilty on that time that Haruto may have gone back to Nanami, and if that would have happen everyone would have been happy (except for her since she would have lost Haruto). I don't think that relationship between Yuzuki and Kazuma was simple friendship, he was more like close nii-san or savior- figure for her. She was never interested romantically but she felt secure and saved by him many times. If he was jerk he wouldn't spent his live approaching her and giving her hand. I think none can be actually labeled bad guy/girl here. If there's proper choice it would be (from my perspective) keep on dating Haruto. She spent years in love with him and then she threw it all away. Even if for dying guy. it might have sounded bit selfish but isn't that what is love about ? I mean the two of them should have been most important for each other topping all other happenings around them. Not to mention Kazuma was not idiot, he realized her sudden change of hearth was out of pity that's why he undertook risk of surgery and everyone ended up with short end of stick (for now) |
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na35899 said: can anyone tell me if yuzuki really love kazama? or did she just pretend to be his boyfriend out of pity i think both of them are wrong yuzuki already rejected kazama (in the past) still he did use his illness to beg her to date him(very selfish) and yuzuki if she doesnt really love kazama y did she accept, she is selfish too, trying to comfort a sick person by giving what they cant possibly have is cruel BUT if she really do love him then its ok, but then still she is a bitch cheating haruto Yuzu so Kaza only as a friend she had no deeper feelings towards him, she dumped Haruto & started dating Kaza only cause he was sick, dying, & her reason for dumping Haruto pisses me off |
jose21 said: 2-D said: na35899 said: can anyone tell me if yuzuki really love kazama? or did she just pretend to be his boyfriend out of pity Pity. I'm sure she liked him as a friend but it wasn't love. This^^^^^^^^^^ And if you watch carefully, Haruto liked Kazama more than Yuzuki ever did. To me the only total asshole on this story was Kazama. Yuzuki did wrong, but did she really had an option where she wouldn't feel guilty. Reject the guy and feel guilty that you could not give his dying wish to someone that helped you. Date the guy and feel guitly of hurting Haruto. Also, She could have chosen not to hurt who she trully loved (Haruto), but there was also the possibilty on that time that Haruto may have gone back to Nanami, and if that would have happen everyone would have been happy (except for her since she would have lost Haruto). oh well, but that would never work cause Haruto & Eba love is so deep & strong, if something forces them to part way's & he get new GF & she new BF, they would be miserable for life & they wold make their partner miserable to, they cant be happy with out each other |
greenmarty said: holy crap i haven't expected it to get this serious... Sent with Mal Updater jose21 said: 2-D said: na35899 said: can anyone tell me if yuzuki really love kazama? or did she just pretend to be his boyfriend out of pity Pity. I'm sure she liked him as a friend but it wasn't love. This^^^^^^^^^^ And if you watch carefully, Haruto liked Kazama more than Yuzuki ever did. To me the only total asshole on this story was Kazama. Yuzuki did wrong, but did she really had an option where she wouldn't feel guilty. Reject the guy and feel guilty that you could not give his dying wish to someone that helped you. Date the guy and feel guitly of hurting Haruto. Also, She could have chosen not to hurt who she trully loved (Haruto), but there was also the possibilty on that time that Haruto may have gone back to Nanami, and if that would have happen everyone would have been happy (except for her since she would have lost Haruto). I don't think that relationship between Yuzuki and Kazuma was simple friendship, he was more like close nii-san or savior- figure for her. She was never interested romantically but she felt secure and saved by him many times. If he was jerk he wouldn't spent his live approaching her and giving her hand. I think none can be actually labeled bad guy/girl here. If there's proper choice it would be (from my perspective) keep on dating Haruto. She spent years in love with him and then she threw it all away. Even if for dying guy. it might have sounded bit selfish but isn't that what is love about ? I mean the two of them should have been most important for each other topping all other happenings around them. Not to mention Kazuma was not idiot, he realized her sudden change of hearth was out of pity that's why he undertook risk of surgery and everyone ended up with short end of stick (for now) relationship between Yuzuki and Kazuma was just as u say'd + out of pity for dying man, but he reasons for dumping Haruto & starting dating Kaza are stupid & wrong |
| Damn so he died :| well that sure was a touching moment with especially that ending attached to it fuck that was so damn sad! I do wonder what will happen next |
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| if u think about it, that Yuzu & Kaza were in contact while Yuzu was dating Haru (no idea did they mention it in anime? but it was in mnaga, maybe it is in OVA to), Kaza had to know that Yuzu has a BF, but he did not care & he pulled the death card, & if he did not know i'm really surprised cause its weird if u ton't tell ur friend that ur in a relationship, & if he did not know he should have more brains to ask Yuzu, to u have a BF & that he did not shows that he did not care, so it dose not matter which way it is cause both show what kind of a selfish jerk he is, he did not think of Yuzu's feelings neither, cause forcing some1 to be with u with pity or what ever will never work no1 will be happy, not the forcer not the forcy & not forcy BF or GF all are unhappy, so cause of all that, i know its mean, but i ton't feel sry for Kaza, if all i'm glad hes dead |
| That Surgery can be his Life and death emergency button. So its a very risky surgery after all. That Slap! Kyousuke.. What Nice Friend... Rest in peace :) when i saw that helmet I broke up and cried . Pretty damn sad!! That Ending!!! |
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| Sad but moving episode :) |
| Kiyomi is secretly in love with Kazama. Damn. Kazama took the surgury and it fails. He dies. Fuck. I didn't want him to die. He was a cool dude. That scene with the helmet on the altar. Them tears. The ED changed. I love the previous ED but I'll give you this Kazama. Very good episode. |
-Fuji- said: I cried a little when haruto saw kazama's helmet Me too he was such a good bloke. R.I.P |
| so wtf? she said,'i hope we can meet again in the future'. wtf? did she just indirectly told me that she didn't want to be with him? |
| There's no magical spell to save someone's life. |
| I ain't really an expert for human relationships, but wasn't this Kazama guy like the lowest selfish piece of shit one can be? |
| A new girl appears, Dat Slap, and the surgery was a failure with taking Kazuma's life. Eba becoming suicidal? |
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| serve you right bitch Eba, you are now left with no one, I hope you don't ever come back to Haruto! although I already saw the spoiler... damn it, bitch Eba |
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| Kazama has died, while Eba's relationship with Kirishima is now getting away. |
| uhh where dafuq Kiyomi came from and how she suddenly became seemingly close to Haruto and the others |
| I'm surprised. Seems like speeding through the drama actually makes the show feel not rage-worthy. |
| Good riddance. Would be more satisfying if that manipulative bitch lived just so we can watch him get dumped but this is satisfying too in a karmic way. Again good riddance. |
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