| So I think it's a good time to start this, especially since it'll probably be a while before Ep4 comes out. I've been reading a lot of theories, and they've been giving me ideas on what's going on. I'll post them later once I organize them. |
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| Episode 3 was a really great game! ^w^ I was like whoa at the beginning where we know that Battler has been killed numerous times by the stake nee-chans. Also Rosa's torture session was wow...cake, jelly, spider... Man I was like, "Whoa wth?" when the truth about the golden land was revealed and even Virgilia was all evil and stuff. :O Haha, xD Higurashi was mentioned in the tea party. I loved that part and Lamb is like, "NO DON'T TELL MEEE~ >O<" xD Can't wait for the next episode~ |
| I'm just somewhat confused by Virgilia. Does this mean that Beato really had a teacher or was Virgilia just fabricated by Beato as part of her act to trick Battler? Pretty nice plot twists in this episode overall and we finally get to see Bernkastel and Ange join the fray!! |
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| You know that creepy grin they gave Battler prevented him from signing the contract thing. If he had signed it, it would've been game over. I think a lot of the last scene was acting on Beato's and Virgilia's part. If you remember that Lamdadelta says that Beato is "acting like she doesn't WANT to win." that's a hint that Beato probably isn't all "cackle cackle, I'm evil again!" And then if you go back the the prologue with Beato's dream, Virgilia was really a good witch, but she's also already dead. So she's either being used as a piece by one of the meta-witches, like Beato or maybe even Lamdadelta, or she's acting in order to help Beato from winning the game. And as a last note, I do think that Beato has changed a bit from what she did and what happened in Ep3. I think she's lying when she says everything was all an act, because if you remember, when she was upset that Battler wasn't enjoying her "fun" when Eva-Beatrice was killing Rosa, that definitely wasn't acting because that was before Virgilia mentioned the North Sun and Wind thing, which is what probably gave her the idea of acting nice until the end. |
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| I just really want to know whether Virgilia ever existed in the first place because I remember that at one point, Lamda said she could take away Beato`s magical power that Lamda had given her if Beato doesn`t start trying to win the game which suggests that Beato never learned magic from Virgilia so Virgilia and almost everything else that happened in all of Episode 3 was an act to fool Battler. But then I`m confused why they had to ruin their perfect act by doing that creepy grin right before Battler was about to sign the contract. They would have won if they didn't grin! I don't think Bernkastel would have sent Ange in time to save Battler in that case. |
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| But the thing is, I don't think Beato wants to win against Battler... well, yet anyway. At least, not by that way. And as for Virgilia, I'm not sure if she actually existed or not either. |
z-pakJan 21, 2009 1:55 PM
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| True. If either Beato or Battler won now, we won't have an episode 4 to play. That would be a sad thing. |
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| Didn't they mention in episode 3 that you need the approval of another witch, of different type, to be fully accepted as one? Like Eva-Beatrice needed Lamda's recommendation and Ange probably needed Bern's. So I assume Beatrice learned the magic from Virgilia indeed, but she needed Lamda's approval. I'd like to believe that Virgilia actually existed. The scene when Kumasawa turns into Virgilia seems really important - it's the basis of the Virgilia=Kumasawa=previous Beatrice theory, which suggests that Kumasawa was Kinzo's first love/obsession. |
| So there's this interesting theory, one that I sort of agree on, that Kinzo may have already been dead before the start of the events in the game. At first, I found it a bit absurd, but if you think about it, it does make sense. We, the reader/audience, never physically see Kinzo unless it's in 3rd person. Narrative perspective is a very important detail I noticed throughout the 3 games thus far. It's quite obvious by now that anything in 3rd person is not to be taken as fact, especially since all the crazy magic and witch battles take place in 3rd person. So I usually take everything that's seen through Battler's eyes as fact. Except for one thing, at the end of Ep2. I think that was mostly a hallucination of some sort. Especially given the fact that he was drunk at the time. But let's think this through. Kinzo never physically greeted the family and have only been seen by the servants and Nanjo. Oh, and Natsuhi in Ep1. Also, if we think about what happened to him in each of the episodes, or more importantly, how his body was found. In Ep1 and 2, he died by getting burned and Nanjo believes it's his body. But Kinzo could've been burned before then. I don't exactly remember if Nanjo ever confirmed the time of Kinzo's death. Not to mention, Nanjo is highly suspicious. If he's not the culprit, he has to be an accomplice of some sort. Or, Kinzo could've already been dead at the time, and the culprit just burned the body before his body was found by the family. But there are also inconsistencies with the above. For example, Natsuhi saw and talked to Kinzo during the events of Ep1. Unless she was somehow hallucinating him, which I doubt. Or unless someone is disguised as him. Well, I'm rather skeptical about that idea as well, since none of the character resemble Kinzo that much. : / Well, the main thing is besides Natsuhi and Battler (if we really believe everything that happened at the end of Ep2), has anyone else in the main family ever physically seen him? From I remember, no. Though Krauss and Eva have heard his voice |
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| Hmmm Well maybe one of the stakes could have killed him and took control over his body? That would be killing the sacrifices out of order though so maybe that wouldn't be possible. But Beatrice does like to kill for fun... Or maybe he really did die but hasn't 'remembered' that yet like how Beatrice killed Virgilia by making Virgilia 'remember' her true dead form. |
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