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ssjokg said:
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Also they included a bit more introspective dialogue huh. O_o

And yeah poor Sugu. :( You still have your bitch stalker Recon.


I dont think she is satisfied with that.


Yeah sadly so. :<
Although one should just cut their losses and take what is possible. D:

And oh jeez. You could see the exact moment where Sugu's heart breaks into tiny little pieces. :C
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NICE epic face lol i love it when he goes berserk mode or...insane mode while fighting he even put with a badass smile.

Sugu forever friendzone/family :(

The hug part after she saved him was...ehhh okay.

Sighhh another week of waiting. just 3 more episodes!
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ssjokg said:
NettoAzure said:
Also they included a bit more introspective dialogue huh. O_o

And yeah poor Sugu. :( You still have your bitch stalker Recon.


I dont think she is satisfied with that.
Kirito should introduce her to Klein. That guy would certainly treat her right.
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Yes, it would be anticlimactic, but after 22 episodes, why would you expect anything different? This is a team that cut out the entire climax of the first novel after all.


What the heck are you talking about? They didn't cut anything from the climax of the first novel.


The climax of the novel was when Kirito looked at Heathcliff who has a pitying look on his face and suddenly thinks: "As if he was looking at a bunch of white mice playing in an inescapable cage". This begins the process of Kirito putting the pieces together to make the connection. The identification of Heathcliff as Kayaba is the most dramatic scene in the book, the point everything led up to, the point which defined everything that followed, and the animation completely skipped over this identification

In the animation all Heathcliff is doing is standing there with a neutral look on his face and without giving any explanation, Kirito recalls the fight they had 2 weeks (and 4 episodes) prior and leaps to the conclusion that Heathcliff is Kayaba. There was no trigger, no reason why Kirito would think then and not anytime prior to this point (not to mention that they had just fought for an hour, and he was exhausted, which is not the best time to try to have epiphanies), they just glossed over the entire scene with his abrupt leap (both figuratively and literally) of faith.

And it isn't like it would have taken much to provide the climatic trigger. Just Kirito mumbling "It's like we are mice to him" would have been enough. But there was no attempt even at this. It's like having the detective point to the villain and say: "it was you Colonel Mustard", without explaining that it occurred in the billiard room with the candlestick.
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NettoAzure said:
Ah it's pretty crazy how Kirito does such a crazy thing when entire armies can't even do it. xD


hahaha that ability is only for shounen heroes lol

nice battle scene in this epi, sucks for the brocon-sis
im piqued for the next one
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i couldn't stop laughing its was so bad i wanted to see that would happen and it was amazing lol shes so stupid not finding out that the person looked and had the same name has her "brother" overall it was a good episode only 3 left =(
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AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
NettoAzure said:
Also they included a bit more introspective dialogue huh. O_o

And yeah poor Sugu. :( You still have your bitch stalker Recon.


I dont think she is satisfied with that.
Kirito should introduce her to Klein. That guy would certainly treat her right.

And he would be quite happy.Thorzoned Klein..best and saddest moment he had in the LN.


Doesnt Kirito here, look like his first avatar in SAO?Except the hair.
Dec 1, 2012 11:58 AM

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EPIC EPISODE IS EPIC. CANNOT WAIT FOR NEXT EPISODE. OH GAWDDDD
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pandoras_wrath said:
i couldn't stop laughing its was so bad i wanted to see that would happen and it was amazing lol shes so stupid not finding out that the person looked and had the same name has her "brother" overall it was a good episode only 3 left =(

Only we see that he is so similar and she doesnt know the name Kirito.How would she figure it out?
Dec 1, 2012 12:00 PM

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Nice episode, in your face Sugu!

A question to the LN readers, Kirito will find/see/talk to Asuna before the last episode?
Dec 1, 2012 12:01 PM

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katzer said:
Nice episode, in your face Sugu!

A question to the LN readers, Kirito will find/see/talk to Asuna before the last episode?
Yes.
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amginex said:
NettoAzure said:
Ah it's pretty crazy how Kirito does such a crazy thing when entire armies can't even do it. xD


hahaha that ability is only for shounen heroes lol

nice battle scene in this epi, sucks for the brocon-sis
im piqued for the next one


This should be explained next episode. But if you can't wait:
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Welp, that was pretty awesome.

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
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AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
NettoAzure said:
Also they included a bit more introspective dialogue huh. O_o

And yeah poor Sugu. :( You still have your bitch stalker Recon.


I dont think she is satisfied with that.
Kirito should introduce her to Klein. That guy would certainly treat her right.


Klein did ask that in ep 1 :P Bro should do a bro a favor
Dec 1, 2012 12:06 PM
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ssjokg said:

Doesnt Kirito here, look like his first avatar in SAO?Except the hair.
I guess. I haven't really been paying attention to what he wears since Kirito has been wearing basically the same thing since he first got that coat from the first level boss in SAO.

RockerXD said:
AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
NettoAzure said:
Also they included a bit more introspective dialogue huh. O_o

And yeah poor Sugu. :( You still have your bitch stalker Recon.


I dont think she is satisfied with that.
Kirito should introduce her to Klein. That guy would certainly treat her right.


Klein did ask that in ep 1 :P Bro should do a bro a favor
May be Kirito is afraid that the other girls in his harem would leave him if they found out that Klein is better. lol
Dec 1, 2012 12:08 PM

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Easily one of the better eps so far. Poor Sugu :(
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AiCon said:
RockerXD said:
AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
NettoAzure said:
Also they included a bit more introspective dialogue huh. O_o

And yeah poor Sugu. :( You still have your bitch stalker Recon.


I dont think she is satisfied with that.
Kirito should introduce her to Klein. That guy would certainly treat her right.


Klein did ask that in ep 1 :P Bro should do a bro a favor
May be Kirito is afraid that the other girls in his harem would leave him if they found out that Klein is better. lol
But kirito is better than Klein in vmmo and probably earns more money at his job than Kein does to treat them every freaking time.

Bitches just want money(and mmo?).
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The climax of the novel was when Kirito looked at Heathcliff who has a pitying look on his face and suddenly thinks: "As if he was looking at a bunch of white mice playing in an inescapable cage". This begins the process of Kirito putting the pieces together to make the connection. The identification of Heathcliff as Kayaba is the most dramatic scene in the book, the point everything led up to, the point which defined everything that followed, and the animation completely skipped over this identification

In the animation all Heathcliff is doing is standing there with a neutral look on his face and without giving any explanation, Kirito recalls the fight they had 2 weeks (and 4 episodes) prior and leaps to the conclusion that Heathcliff is Kayaba. There was no trigger, no reason why Kirito would think then and not anytime prior to this point (not to mention that they had just fought for an hour, and he was exhausted, which is not the best time to try to have epiphanies), they just glossed over the entire scene with his abrupt leap (both figuratively and literally) of faith.

And it isn't like it would have taken much to provide the climatic trigger. Just Kirito mumbling "It's like we are mice to him" would have been enough. But there was no attempt even at this. It's like having the detective point to the villain and say: "it was you Colonel Mustard", without explaining that it occurred in the billiard room with the candlestick.


So Kirito having a random pretentious thought was the climax for you? Not the fight that decided the fate for everyone and was literally do or die (because if he didn't beat him here, they probably wouldn't have been able to beat the other 25 bosses).

To me that was the worst part of the LN, especially since the author established earlier that subtle facial expressions are hard to do in the game (hence why I think the animation is a bit more faithful to the rules here). You could assume that Kirito thought in the anime that Heathcliff looked far too calm and composed compared to everyone else.

The part of him surpassing the system was also pretty dumb, because both Kirito and Asuna did it beforehand...so what makes it so strange again? (Actually if Asuna was Kayabaya that would've been a rediculously good plot twist hah).
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HOLY F**K.
Poor Suguha.. i mean she cannot replace Asuna but.. oh wells.
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AiCon said:
ssjokg said:

Doesnt Kirito here, look like his first avatar in SAO?Except the hair.
I guess. I haven't really been paying attention to what he wears since Kirito has been wearing basically the same thing since he first got that coat from the first level boss in SAO.
I mean before they were changed by Kayaba.The one he had from the beta.
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Silver Crow and Black Lotus become a sword. LOL
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Sugu learns the truth about kirito, me: *Yagami Laugh* this made my day!
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ssjokg said:
AiCon said:
RockerXD said:
AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
NettoAzure said:
Also they included a bit more introspective dialogue huh. O_o

And yeah poor Sugu. :( You still have your bitch stalker Recon.


I dont think she is satisfied with that.
Kirito should introduce her to Klein. That guy would certainly treat her right.


Klein did ask that in ep 1 :P Bro should do a bro a favor
May be Kirito is afraid that the other girls in his harem would leave him if they found out that Klein is better. lol
But kirito is better than Klein in vmmo and probably earns more money at his job than Kein does to treat them every freaking time.

Bitches just want money(and mmo?).
Klein can hold his own in mmo and he probably has quite a bit of money saved up during his adventures with his guild.

Besides, Suguha isn't a bitch - she's a goddess:D
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I didn't expect that this whole episode is all about... romance drama... What the fuck...?


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If only Valve programmed ALO. The Tank in L4D is frighteningly good at predicting where you will be several seconds later and also includes compensation for the travel time of ranged projectiles.

Poor programming saved Lyfa.

Finally, the brownstorm that I've been waiting for weeks.
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AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
AiCon said:
RockerXD said:
AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
NettoAzure said:
Also they included a bit more introspective dialogue huh. O_o

And yeah poor Sugu. :( You still have your bitch stalker Recon.


I dont think she is satisfied with that.
Kirito should introduce her to Klein. That guy would certainly treat her right.


Klein did ask that in ep 1 :P Bro should do a bro a favor
May be Kirito is afraid that the other girls in his harem would leave him if they found out that Klein is better. lol
But kirito is better than Klein in vmmo and probably earns more money at his job than Kein does to treat them every freaking time.

Bitches just want money(and mmo?).
Klein can hold his own in mmo and he probably has quite a bit of money saved up during his adventures with his guild.

Besides, Suguha isn't a bitch - she's a goddess:D

True but they are already ""fascinated" by Kirito.Real Life money from their real jobs.I wasnt specific before.Although you cant call Kirito's job "IRL one".
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Wow, so half the episode was dramatic fail, and the other half was inappropriate love between not-so-siblings. Too funny. I was actually hoping that this would be a good episode. :|
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Aw shiiiiiiit! We all knew this had to happen sooner or later. Before that though, really glad to see Kirito being brought back to Earth in regards to his OPness ever since the the beginning of the series. He's always been able to overcome trials thrown at him so it makes sense why he think he'd be able to get Asuna alone. The fight scene though I must say was well done.

When Kirito told Leafa he was searching for Asuna and Sugu was able to piece everything together I was like " Here we go". The fuse that has slowly been going down finally exploded and Sugu realizes she's had no chance from the beginning. I do feel bad for her though, she's just a high school girl in love who can't get what she truly wants. When Kirito and Sugu were talking in the hallway, I was laughing at how he was like "WTF?" when she confessed her love pretty much.

So when Kirito distanced himself from Sugu when he was little did he do it so he wouldn't get feelings for her?
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Had an '......OMG' moment as soon as Kirito mentioned Asuna in front of Sugu. Spent about a month and a half waiting for that. xD

Great ep!
curiouser and curiouser :)
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Kirito is OP, and Sugu is fairly annoying.

What else is new?

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Kirito is OP, and Sugu is fairly annoying.

What else is new?

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How was Kirito OP in this ep?
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ssjokg said:
AiCon said:
ssjokg said:

Doesnt Kirito here, look like his first avatar in SAO?Except the hair.
I guess. I haven't really been paying attention to what he wears since Kirito has been wearing basically the same thing since he first got that coat from the first level boss in SAO.
I mean before they were changed by Kayaba.The one he had from the beta.
Just went back to episode 1 and he kinda does.

ssjokg said:
AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
AiCon said:
RockerXD said:
AiCon said:
ssjokg said:
NettoAzure said:
Also they included a bit more introspective dialogue huh. O_o

And yeah poor Sugu. :( You still have your bitch stalker Recon.


I dont think she is satisfied with that.
Kirito should introduce her to Klein. That guy would certainly treat her right.


Klein did ask that in ep 1 :P Bro should do a bro a favor
May be Kirito is afraid that the other girls in his harem would leave him if they found out that Klein is better. lol
But kirito is better than Klein in vmmo and probably earns more money at his job than Kein does to treat them every freaking time.

Bitches just want money(and mmo?).
Klein can hold his own in mmo and he probably has quite a bit of money saved up during his adventures with his guild.

Besides, Suguha isn't a bitch - she's a goddess:D

True but they are already ""fascinated" by Kirito.Real Life money from their real jobs.I wasnt specific before.Although you cant call Kirito's job "IRL one".
I think Klein is older than Kirito so he would already have more money than Kirito and everyone else in his harem except for Asuna.
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Was a good episode except for the end. I don't care about Suguha at all.
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Sugu's outbreak at the end is actually not that bad. I expected more cheesy crap but it's not as bad as I thought it would be.
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:/ I preffered if the whole episode had been fighting, that was the best bit
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Ummmmm did they change the way she found out? I'm pretty sure...

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Ummmmm did they change the way she found out? I'm pretty sure...

Dec 1, 2012 12:43 PM

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well on the bright side, she has a brother who's so cool that you can fall in love with him twice bwhaha
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ssjokg said:
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Ummmmm did they change the way she found out? I'm pretty sure...



Oh ya nvm I'm must have thought that because I just looked over the novel I have saved and it goes from the king pic to the reveal. I must have thought they were scenes back to back /fail on my part
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The identification was the climax, that was the turning point of the novel. Without the identification the fight between the two would not have had any significance. In literary terms the actual fight between the two is defined as the "Falling Action", which follows the climax. The conversation at the end was the dénouement.

You were correct about the expressions, I was wrong, but Kawahara explained this without any contradiction.


Your suggestion as to what could be the trigger would be fine, any trigger would be fine. It just needed something to spark the climax.
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as always kirito is a crazy fighter... even though he died and was rescued... its sad how lyfa found out kirito was her brother... still rooting for her but same time for asuna as well

cant wait till next episode
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what in the fck...

...was I the only one who thought Sugu knew Kirito's IRL identity for the past 6-7 episodes?

She just finds out now?

Seriously, fck this shit
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Ow god, i was so sad when she started to cry..
Anyway i loved this episode, can't wait for the next one '-'
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what in the fck...

...was I the only one who thought Sugu knew Kirito's IRL identity for the past 6-7 episodes?

She just finds out now?

Seriously, fck this shit

Ιt was obvious from the previous ep,for anyone that didnt notice it,that she didnt know.
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When Suguha started crying, I was smiling before I could even notice. How cruel am I exactly ? :(
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When Suguha started crying, I was smiling before I could even notice. How cruel am I exactly ? :(

Same here. I've been waiting for this for a very long time. I guess it's a natural reaction for a plebeian like me who grew up in an environment where cousin-cousin love is frowned upon.

Still prefer Lyfa/Sugu over Asuna though. Not in terms of shipping but as a character.
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what in the fck...

...was I the only one who thought Sugu knew Kirito's IRL identity for the past 6-7 episodes?

She just finds out now?

Seriously, fck this shit


Yep, of the one million, two hundred and eighty five thousand, nine hundred and forty two people watching this animation, you were the only person who thought she knew.

Roughly four hundred and twenty eight thousand thought she was an idiot for not being able to figure this out, the balance would reply asking "why should she know".
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i feel so alone
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