| I love me some basugay and I've been into anime for a long time. However, I don't feel you can really compare the shows because - while both having the same sport as a focus - they are entirely different STYLES of storytelling. Kuroko no Basuke is a battle shounen thrown onto a basketball court, and this actually works really well for it and plays to the author's strengths. He's admitted not knowing all that much about basketball before it even got animated, albeit he did say he's taking learning it very seriously (which shows given the series did start getting a little more realistic about some of the rules and things), while also keeping the series as what it is - a battle shonen with a unique setting for it. Slam Dunk is more like a sports shonen, which actually puts it into an entirely different genre. If you're too dumb to recognize the difference of a battle shounen and sports shounen - just because they happen to have the same setting - that's nobody's fault but your own. |
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Candor said: Another thing, KnB will never make me marathon 5 volumes in 1 hour, that's how amazing SD was. I definitely agree with this, haha. When I started reading SD, I was really into it. It makes me not want to stop, so I'm going with SD than with KnB. I can't really say the things that makes SD more epic, but in my own opinion, maybe I just like to see how the protagonist struggles in getting better. Because in KnB, Kuroko is already one of the best. Another thing I don't like about KnB is it's unrealistic feel. May as well turn it into a card game. It's like, "Go, Kuroko, use Misdirection", haha. Well, this is just my opinion though. It still depends on the reader. |
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Harutora said: Slam Dunk is all in the past. Today, Is all about KnB. SD had its time to shine. Now is KnB turn. Stop hating. You're like comparing the :hack// series with SAO. ''hack// series is all in the past, it had its time to shine. Now its SAO turn. Stop hating '' Quality will always be quality , it doesn't matter which timezone it is. KNB turn to shine ? Just because there is no other same bkb genre to compete with ? I called that as running a race without a competitor Thus, people compared KNB with SD , because SD is an all time favorites and its still running in people hearts /inb4 cheesy |
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| KnB is pure shit! only some simple minded fujoshi who fap to KnB every night and ppl that only care about art quality saying KnB is better Slam dunk show you how to be hero from zero. in fact, when I was still a kid, I learned how to block, rebound, lay-up from slam dunk. |
DateYutaka said: sorry in sales you cannot SD is the 2nd biggest selling manga ever I'm pretty sure Slam Dunk is the 4th biggest selling (Dragonball is the 2nd). What's your source on that? Also, I'm just going to leave this here: http://theotaku2anime.wordpress.com/2013/02/16/stop-comparing-slam-dunk-and-kuroko-no-basket/ |
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RicoDaMann said: The only reason i would say thats bad about Slam Dunk is the fact that the anime is incomplete. I was completely disappointed, because i watch more anime than read manga. I just wished they could finish. And knb cannot even be compared to slam dunk. The only thing in common between them is basketball but thats it. That would be the same as Berserk, Break Blade, Chrno Crusade, Kyo Samurai Deeper, Samurai X and most manga out there. Lots of anime didn't complete the manga or stay faithful to the original work. |
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Tommk said: And that's why I and a lot of other people rated down those series and others like them. The manga readers see it as a good adaptation of part of the manga, but anime only watchers see it as a half finished story, a big flaw. Sakuragi showed promise, but we never got to see what happened to it.RicoDaMann said: The only reason i would say thats bad about Slam Dunk is the fact that the anime is incomplete. I was completely disappointed, because i watch more anime than read manga. I just wished they could finish. And knb cannot even be compared to slam dunk. The only thing in common between them is basketball but thats it. That would be the same as Berserk, Break Blade, Chrno Crusade, Kyo Samurai Deeper, Samurai X and most manga out there. Lots of anime didn't complete the manga or stay faithful to the original work. |
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IntroverTurtle said: Tommk said: And that's why I and a lot of other people rated down those series and others like them. The manga readers see it as a good adaptation of part of the manga, but anime only watchers see it as a half finished story, a big flaw. Sakuragi showed promise, but we never got to see what happened to it.RicoDaMann said: The only reason i would say thats bad about Slam Dunk is the fact that the anime is incomplete. I was completely disappointed, because i watch more anime than read manga. I just wished they could finish. And knb cannot even be compared to slam dunk. The only thing in common between them is basketball but thats it. That would be the same as Berserk, Break Blade, Chrno Crusade, Kyo Samurai Deeper, Samurai X and most manga out there. Lots of anime didn't complete the manga or stay faithful to the original work.  |
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| Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. |
ZaWaldo said: How has it transcended anime? By having an unfinished one?Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. |
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IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How has it transcended anime? By having an unfinished one?Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. It helped increase the popularity of Basketball in a lot of countries (I know it did in my country) and was a quite the worldwide phenomenon at the time. |
ZaWaldo said: How much? And KnB is a new anime and story, so you can't say it did not, you can say it hasn't yet. And that has nothing to do with the quality of an anime.IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How has it transcended anime? By having an unfinished one?Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. It helped increase the popularity of Basketball in a lot of countries (I know it did in my country) and was a quite the worldwide phenomenon at the time. |
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IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How much? And KnB is a new anime and story, so you can't say it did not, you can say it hasn't yet. And that has nothing to do with the quality of an anime.IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How has it transcended anime? By having an unfinished one?Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. It helped increase the popularity of Basketball in a lot of countries (I know it did in my country) and was a quite the worldwide phenomenon at the time. Well I can't give you actual statistics about this :p BUT I can say that everyone in my school started playing basketball because of it, even made me join a basketball club and was hearing similar stories from SD fans from other countries. It's a given that when reading about Takehiko Inoue (or the SD legacy), inspiring a whole generation of Japanese youth to playing this sport is always cited among his achievements. Well, it wouldn't have had that much of an impact and such positive reception if it wasn't a quality product wouldn't it? It's definitely more revered than KnB and I only mentioned this because I don't want to delve deep into comparing both of their plot/pacing/characters since as another poster mentioned before they're really too different to compare and aim for a completely different audience for me to compare them head to head. |
ZaWaldo said: To a point, but that doesn't mean it's better than an anime that hasn't done that. More revered because of the type of story and possibly because KnB has been out for way less time, big popularity takes time, same with big popularity in other countries. So instead of talking about their plot, pacing, characters, etc, you went for something not completely related to the quality of the anime and something that the other anime can't match up against because it's not old enough and isn't popular yet so it hasn't been brought to many countries?IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How much? And KnB is a new anime and story, so you can't say it did not, you can say it hasn't yet. And that has nothing to do with the quality of an anime.IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How has it transcended anime? By having an unfinished one?Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. It helped increase the popularity of Basketball in a lot of countries (I know it did in my country) and was a quite the worldwide phenomenon at the time. Well I can't give you actual statistics about this :p BUT I can say that everyone in my school started playing basketball because of it, even made me join a basketball club and was hearing similar stories from SD fans from other countries. It's a given that when reading about Takehiko Inoue (or the SD legacy), inspiring a whole generation of Japanese youth to playing this sport is always cited among his achievements. Well, it wouldn't have had that much of an impact and such positive reception if it wasn't a quality product wouldn't it? It's definitely more revered than KnB and I only mentioned this because I don't want to delve deep into comparing both of their plot/pacing/characters since as another poster mentioned before they're really too different to compare and aim for a completely different audience for me to compare them head to head. |
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| The reason I don't really like Slam Dunk was because I am not here to see how Hanamichi starting basketball from the scratch. It was boring and slow, real slow.. I think I will get back to it now and skip those unnecessary parts.. If I really like the characters, I might consider going back to watch those I've missed. KnB was more.. unrealistic.. but it was cool ZaWaldo said: IntroverTurtle said: ZaWaldo said: How has it transcended anime? By having an unfinished one?Slam Dunk has transcended Anime. KnB did not. It helped increase the popularity of Basketball in a lot of countries (I know it did in my country) and was a quite the worldwide phenomenon at the time. Not only Slam Dunk, most of the good old anime did, like Major (not that old), or some other that I can't name lol, maybe Hajime no Ippo? Zealot said: I loved SD, so naturally I was excited when I heard about Kuroko. Needless to say, I was completely let down. They are polar opposites in every way if you disregard the basketball part. Slam dunk had that intense rivalry/bromance combo, classic die-hard main character, actual tactics and strategies, and a diverse cast of characters. KnB had superpowers. Implying that KnB has no intense rivalry/bromance combo, die-hard main character, and to a lesser extend, actual tactics and strategies? |
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Natsu12345 said: Well too bad, he stays like that for basically the whole anime. It's not a complete adaptation.The reason I don't really like Slam Dunk was because I am not here to see how Hanamichi starting basketball from the scratch. It was boring and slow, real slow.. I think I will get back to it now and skip those unnecessary parts.. If I really like the characters, I might consider going back to watch those I've missed. KnB was more.. unrealistic.. but it was cool |
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IntroverTurtle said: Natsu12345 said: Well too bad, he stays like that for basically the whole anime. It's not a complete adaptation.The reason I don't really like Slam Dunk was because I am not here to see how Hanamichi starting basketball from the scratch. It was boring and slow, real slow.. I think I will get back to it now and skip those unnecessary parts.. If I really like the characters, I might consider going back to watch those I've missed. KnB was more.. unrealistic.. but it was cool Uhm, is it a good choice to skip through the boring parts and get to the matches, only to come back if the characters are appealing? |
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Natsu12345 said: Yeah that might be fine, but there is some conflict resolution that brings in a new player that is kind of important(I believe in the middle). You might want to check to make sure with someone who's watched it recently.IntroverTurtle said: Natsu12345 said: Well too bad, he stays like that for basically the whole anime. It's not a complete adaptation.The reason I don't really like Slam Dunk was because I am not here to see how Hanamichi starting basketball from the scratch. It was boring and slow, real slow.. I think I will get back to it now and skip those unnecessary parts.. If I really like the characters, I might consider going back to watch those I've missed. KnB was more.. unrealistic.. but it was cool Uhm, is it a good choice to skip through the boring parts and get to the matches, only to come back if the characters are appealing? |
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arfmaster said: Slamdunk all day. I guess being a basketball fan helps? Woah woah woah, by saying that, people will counter you by saying'' kuroku no basket is about basketball too. So why slamdunk all day ? '' |
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Tommk said: Because Slam Dunk is about basketball, whereas Kuroko just uses basketball as a medium for its action.arfmaster said: Slamdunk all day. I guess being a basketball fan helps? Woah woah woah, by saying that, people will counter you by saying'' kuroku no basket is about basketball too. So why slamdunk all day ? '' |
| I enjoyed Kuroko no Basket a lot. And yes, it's definitely not the most realistic rendition of basketball, but that's actually what I liked about it. The games were pretty exciting to watch in my opinion. That's not saying I wouldn't like a realistic basketball anime. Can't wait for season 2 by the way. Because of KnB, I started watching Slam Dunk. I never heard of it before, but I saw it in the recommendations at KnB's page. I'm currently at episode 14, and I do enjoy this one too! Of course, the art cannot be compared to KnB, but it doesn't bother me, I like it. The humor in it is especially great haha I totally agree with Kolchao's post (#18) on the first page of this topic though, about comparing these two anime: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=524551&show=0#msg19965085 deniz1 said: I need appreciation for slam dunk also i need some people to bad mouth kuroko no baske. That's seriously f**king retarted. |
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Dragon_Slayer_X said: No he won't, wide open ending.ryshin said: i guess iits kuroko... but i couldn't say more since i've not completed SD Complete SD........you will change you mind. |
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| It's not like Slam Dunk is above reproach. Some of the humor is just so bad to the point where it gets annoying. Also it takes a looooong time for the MC to develop his skills to the point where he's not completely disappointing in every game. Now I kind of like that it's just that the anime fucking stops right when it's about to get good! If it weren't for that I would enjoy the fact that they went the slightly more realistic and satisfying route. But anyways I'm about to start slowly reading the manga so that's a good sign that it managed to hook me well enough. Oh and I like kuroko no basket so.... The more unrealistic it is the better, as long as the games are intense because of that. Now if you want to go the opposite route and actually watch and read realistic sports anime/manga go for some Adachi series instead. |
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| i like both ..but i enjoy slamdunk!manga more...read the sannoh vs shohoku game...it gave me goosbumps...an knb manga is juz yeah its normal for me but i enjoy it too..anime wise i prefer kuroko because those flashy skills got animated.. overall i still prefer slamdunk a lil bit more than knb |
LayedBack said: It's not like Slam Dunk is above reproach. Some of the humor is just so bad to the point where it gets annoying. Also it takes a looooong time for the MC to develop his skills to the point where he's not completely disappointing in every game. Now I kind of like that it's just that the anime fucking stops right when it's about to get good! If it weren't for that I would enjoy the fact that they went the slightly more realistic and satisfying route. But anyways I'm about to start slowly reading the manga so that's a good sign that it managed to hook me well enough. Oh and I like kuroko no basket so.... The more unrealistic it is the better, as long as the games are intense because of that. Now if you want to go the opposite route and actually watch and read realistic sports anime/manga go for some Adachi series instead. Is not about the humor being bad, you just like it or not, not everyone likes that kind of silly humor. There's tons of people who love SD's humor, personally i just enjoy it and in a couple of occasions i think they push it a little. About the MC you are right; he is a beginner, what were you expecting, to learn everything in a couple episodes? This Anime try to be realistic and as said during the show his improvement is amazing (fast paced). Personally i just think that they take too long to start showing us good games, we get to see the first serious game like on episode 15 and the following games 15episodes later. Aside from that it is great. I wish it would be remade - better quality - with the last arc animated. |
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pokecenter said: It's the same thing with stories, characters, etc. Some people like them and others don't. Yes, comedy is a very polarizing thing but he can still think the comedy is not well done, comedy anime are not outside of criticism.Is not about the humor being bad, you just like it or not, not everyone likes that kind of silly humor. There's tons of people who love SD's humor, personally i just enjoy it and in a couple of occasions i think they push it a little. About the MC you are right; he is a beginner, what were you expecting, to learn everything in a couple episodes? This Anime try to be realistic and as said during the show his improvement is amazing (fast paced). Personally i just think that they take too long to start showing us good games, we get to see the first serious game like on episode 15 and the following games 15episodes later. Aside from that it is great. I wish it would be remade - better quality - with the last arc animated. He already said that he likes it realistic and how it takes him a while. But what he doesn't like that I also don't like is how because the anime ends early, he never gets out of his beginner phase. So we don't get to see him play well and have any great moments. |
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IntroverTurtle said: pokecenter said: It's the same thing with stories, characters, etc. Some people like them and others don't. Yes, comedy is a very polarizing thing but he can still think the comedy is not well done, comedy anime are not outside of criticism.Is not about the humor being bad, you just like it or not, not everyone likes that kind of silly humor. There's tons of people who love SD's humor, personally i just enjoy it and in a couple of occasions i think they push it a little. About the MC you are right; he is a beginner, what were you expecting, to learn everything in a couple episodes? This Anime try to be realistic and as said during the show his improvement is amazing (fast paced). Personally i just think that they take too long to start showing us good games, we get to see the first serious game like on episode 15 and the following games 15episodes later. Aside from that it is great. I wish it would be remade - better quality - with the last arc animated. He already said that he likes it realistic and how it takes him a while. But what he doesn't like that I also don't like is how because the anime ends early, he never gets out of his beginner phase. So we don't get to see him play well and have any great moments. I don't agree with that last sentence, we get to see him play well plenty of times. Not like Rukawa, but that's not surprising. Still despite all his mistakes and lack on fundamentals he got highlights in every important game. |
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pokecenter said: Those highlights are the only times that he plays decent. And you know that with the potential he showed early on, that's not all he can do. He still had more goof ups than good plays. Now that would have been fine, if he had eventually grown into a good player, but all we got to see was him as a beginner and then it cut off.I don't agree with that last sentence, we get to see him play well plenty of times. Not like Rukawa, but that's not surprising. Still despite all his mistakes and lack on fundamentals he got highlights in every important game. Natsu12345 said: It's best to compare realism between shows that try to have it. Obviously KnB isn't trying to be completely real, real =/= good. It's like saying a comedy anime can never be good because it doesn't make me cry like Clannad, they were trying to achieve different things from the first place. I can say KnB has better fantasy. And once again you're commenting on the whole quality of an anime you haven't even seen 6% of.I'll just leave it here, KnB is far more enjoyable than SD, but I know that SD has better story writing and better realism, even though I have yet to get past 6 episodes, and sadly, probably won't get to it anytime soon. and the main reason is not the art, I do watch Ranma 1/2 and stuff.. |
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