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Nov 9, 2008 1:16 PM
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Wow, really mystery episode. I love how they present Saya's feelings. <3
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Feb 19, 2009 9:05 AM
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It was creepy with all those kids... but a very good episode!


May 10, 2009 3:45 PM
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So! Saya still has a way to go before she fully awakens, and she has obviously encountered Diva before. I like the way they overlayed the memories of the earlier Vietnam onto the scenery of their present. Those kids turning into monsters was a twist. What will they do now? Even Haji seems powerless against the lure of Diva's song!
Jun 28, 2009 3:38 PM
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Nasty children. Why were some wearing red capes and others wearing yellow?
Aug 19, 2009 6:15 AM
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Taggu said:
Nasty children. Why were some wearing red capes and others wearing yellow?

Maybe red = "ripe" = ready to turn into demons?
Oct 20, 2009 9:21 AM
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Really starting to like the series now. Killer vampire children hell yeah XD
Oct 27, 2009 11:52 PM
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Baphomet said:
Maybe red = "ripe" = ready to turn into demons?


An interesting thought!

Was it just me, or did the baby chiopterans look like Gollum a bit?
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Jul 19, 2010 3:22 AM
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This was really creepy, but seems like next episode will be more exiting~
Oct 24, 2010 7:21 PM
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lol.. sort of creepy.. xDD but seriously.. saya should reawaken nooow!! cnt wait >o<
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Oct 25, 2010 9:25 PM
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Saya is irritating when she goes to coward mode.
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Jan 8, 2011 10:39 AM

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OMG that was awesome and disturbing and wow!
Mar 21, 2011 9:03 AM

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O_O killer children demons. wtf?!?!? O_O
Apr 13, 2011 8:05 PM
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God, I fucking hate characters like her. That just hide in the corner and whine, while everyone else is fighting. And wtf is up with you guys being surprised over the children.. I thought it was kinda obvious they were gonna end up being monsters.
Apr 26, 2011 2:34 PM

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These kids were disgusting
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Jul 25, 2011 1:10 AM

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They were kids once....not any more. C'mon Saya, it's time to get busy...
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Aug 23, 2011 8:35 PM

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What's up with Saya wimping out now? It's getting irritating.
Sep 28, 2011 11:04 PM

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i was surprised by how the children looked god they looked weird lol
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Oct 30, 2011 7:12 PM

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man i was thinking those kids looked creepy with there cloaks on...then those things popped out of them and well yeah...it got worse LOL

anyways Saya needs to do something before everyone ends up getting killed!
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I'm slowly getting annoyed by how Saya does nothing but cuddle in a corner and wimp. Come on Saya! Have you forgotten George's words already? Who else close to you has to die to make you finally do something?

Other than that, the episode was really good.
Apr 1, 2012 3:02 PM

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Creepy childrens .
May 13, 2012 10:56 PM

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God dammit Saya fight!
Jan 21, 2013 3:38 PM

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Those little monsters creeped me out. Anyway, interesting as always. However I'm getting a bit annoyed by Saya. Her crying in a corner act is getting old.

Apr 7, 2013 2:02 PM

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God, I fucking hate characters like her. That just hide in the corner and whine, while everyone else is fighting. And wtf is up with you guys being surprised over the children.. I thought it was kinda obvious they were gonna end up being monsters.


i thought i was the only one that felt this way. she is definitly ruining the show for me. I hate how she just sits in a corner while the people around her die. I mean come on, seriously? shes selfish and i feel like her personality is going to have to change some if im going to continue watching this show.

I actually cant wait to meet diva. Girl villian characters always have interesting personalities :)
Nov 25, 2013 1:47 AM

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5/5

The plot grows and new revelations make it interesting watching the episode and to put more pepper on the succulent dish we also think the promo to turn on the expectations for the next episode, happiness to the stars! : D
Narratively performs well slow to give it time to develop the pathos in a sublime way.
Drawings and animations of good level.
I think Diva is another bat and now you understand the nature of Solomon! * _ *
May 25, 2014 3:34 PM

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Wow, I'm surprised at all the hate towards Saya. She's obviously facing PTSD, and I know I couldn't do any better in her situation. At least her reactions are fairly realistic >3>
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Aeowina said:
Wow, I'm surprised at all the hate towards Saya. She's obviously facing PTSD, and I know I couldn't do any better in her situation. At least her reactions are fairly realistic >3>


we all know about this, its not normal to have these symptoms during a fight where there is lot of actions when you trying to survive, symptoms happen lot when adrenaline is off.......

p.s yeah, her attitude is pissing me off too, its ruining the show for me actually, hope strongly it will be better that later
Nov 25, 2015 3:54 AM

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Aeowina said:
Wow, I'm surprised at all the hate towards Saya. She's obviously facing PTSD, and I know I couldn't do any better in her situation. At least her reactions are fairly realistic >3>

Lol, she was textbook PTSD, I thought as well.
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let's play shocked girl while good people are still dying one after another being killed by those monsters...don't like indecisive girls, fight! you!
Jul 23, 2016 3:44 PM
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Damn, Can't really fault her for having those flashbacks to where she killed normal humans, even a human child for what seems to be no reason other than going berserk...
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Oh man, shit is really going down now and poor Saya, what a horrible situation she's in.

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Childern demons are alaways nice addition.
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Aeowina said:
Wow, I'm surprised at all the hate towards Saya. She's obviously facing PTSD, and I know I couldn't do any better in her situation. At least her reactions are fairly realistic >3>


Bruh her father literally died because she was too scared to do anything and soldiers are dying all around her. AND she's never gone berserk when he has taken action thus far, so no excuses. AND a few episodes prior she just told herself to face her past because those were her father's dying words.

I doubt even real soldiers would freeze in the middle of the battlefield repeatedly when their own lives and those of their comrades are in danger even if they suffer from shellshock.

It doesn't help that all Saya does is mope. On the whole, Saya is not an active protagonist. Things happen to her instead of her affecting the plot. She wants to go home, but doesn't muster up any particular motivation to do so. She needs to face her past, but just keeps letting PTSD flashbacks come to her from time to time.

It's not like I haven't seen and liked characters like her in the past. Youko from Twelve Kingdoms and Rose from Red Garden both had this problem of being cowards in a fight but the stories made a point to give them promptly executed arcs focusing on that problem. Here it seems the series is meandering and Saya's development is plateauing. The things that happen to her don't further her arc. She's more like a Shinji than a Youko or Rose.

As for the series as a whole, it has no tension. We're forced to wait as the mystery develops but it doesn't give us a reason to care about the mystery in the first place. It doesn't establish a central threat that the viewer should care about. Are these vampire creatures regularly terrorizing the population on a large scale and need to be stopped as soon as possible? Doesn't look like it. What threat to the world do these chevaliers pose? We don't know. What did Diva do in the past that makes her revival worth being scared about? We don't know.

Why should we care about the journalist guy and Kai+Riku? No reason.

Overall the series doesn't have a strong sense of direction in any aspect 12 episodes in.

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