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Oct 5, 2012 8:40 PM
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I'm wondering what programs other use to encode and transform big anime mkv. files to much smaller size. Please help. thanks :D
Oct 5, 2012 8:43 PM
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Step 1) Grab the video and change the render settings to low quality
Step 3) Lower quality till its barely watchable then render
Step 3) ????????????
Step 4) Profit
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Oct 5, 2012 8:49 PM
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Usually if you downgrade the sound you save a lot of space.
Oct 5, 2012 8:51 PM
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mp4?
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Oct 5, 2012 8:53 PM
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check my Handbrake tutorial - https://sites.google.com/site/taumox/handbrake-tutorial
or if you want more simple guide then use my crappy GUI for handbrake called Cyko - https://sites.google.com/site/taumox/cyko-tutorial
but making mini-size anime is not magic, the more you compress the more the quality will degrade, here - https://sites.google.com/site/taumox/x264-basics
sorry if you find my english poor on those tutorials im not a native speaker of it
Oct 5, 2012 8:57 PM
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Handbrake works well. I haven't used it in a while, but you may need the nightly build if the video is 10-bit.

Handbrake doesn't handle audio and subtitles well, though, so you may want to use mkvmerge GUI to merge the new video with the original audio and subtitles.
Oct 5, 2012 9:03 PM
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Hakuromatsu said:

Handbrake doesn't handle audio and subtitles well, though, so you may want to use mkvmerge GUI to merge the new video with the original audio and subtitles.


the nightly builds have perfect ASS/SSA subtitles support already for a very long time, you may want to check the latest nightly builds since you said you have not tested if for a long time

even Hardsubbing (or Burned-In) of ASS/SSA format subtitles are all perfect now

as for audio, when dealing with 5.1 or 6 channel inputs/source just use mono output (or 1 channel) when using very low audio bitrate like 48kbps and ye use Vorbis since the AAC of Handbrake is not Nero-AAC because Nero-AAC is not open source software and Handbrake are all about open source tools
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Oct 5, 2012 11:32 PM
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MeGUI ftw~ :D
Oct 5, 2012 11:45 PM
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Convert them into another extension. Maybe Windows Movie Maker can do it.


Oct 5, 2012 11:58 PM

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mp4s FTW!
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Oct 6, 2012 12:24 AM

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Handbrake with a crf of around 25 for SD video.
Oct 6, 2012 12:32 AM

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Actually if you downgrade the sound you`ll loose some MB but you`ll also take in consideration that downgrading the video quality will make it unwatchable.
Why do you want to do this maybe we find an alternative solution :)
Oct 6, 2012 2:47 AM

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MeGUI ftw~ :D
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Oct 11, 2012 10:19 PM
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Oct 11, 2012 10:26 PM

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Asianboy30354 said:
mp4s FTW!

MP4/MKV has nothing to do with the file size. All that matters is the bitrate of the video and the audio.
Oct 11, 2012 10:28 PM
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I don't understand... what's with this desire for small file sizes? Is hard drive space actually a problem?
Oct 11, 2012 10:33 PM

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spandexninja said:
I don't understand... what's with this desire for small file sizes? Is hard drive space actually a problem?

He probably wants to put it on a portable media device like a smart phone. Hard drive space is a problem with these devices.
Oct 11, 2012 11:30 PM

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FatherAnderson said:
spandexninja said:
I don't understand... what's with this desire for small file sizes? Is hard drive space actually a problem?

He probably wants to put it on a portable media device like a smart phone. Hard drive space is a problem with these devices.


Do those devices even read mkv files? Even if they do can they show the subs and isn't it hard to read subs on those?
Oct 11, 2012 11:46 PM

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I've been using Handbrake recently, and it's decent. Read a tutorial / explanation of the various options before trying to reencode, it'll save you some time and you'll get better results.
Oct 12, 2012 5:13 AM

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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=How+to+make+mkv.+files+into+a+smaller+size

First page should give some good results ^^

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Sep 19, 2014 8:46 PM

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Oh wow.
Sep 19, 2014 9:37 PM

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Okay keep in mind that an MKV file is just a container. AVI, MP4 and 3GP are also containers.

What's important here is the codec and compression format used to encode the video.
Sep 20, 2014 1:32 AM

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Use hanbrake and choose H.264 with CRF 25 or 24 and change resolution to SD (usually 854x480 for 16:9 or 640x480 for old 4:3 video)

Also, make sure to select High Profile settings, and Placebo for x264 Presets, and Animation for x264 Tunes in settings if you want the best possible size/quality ratio. However, the encoding will very slow specially if have slow CPU

As for audio I recommend using Foober2000 and choose nero AAC for audio encoding and choose something like q 0.25 or q 0.3 for quality settings. And then using MKVToolnix to add the audio to mkv file
Sep 20, 2014 1:44 AM

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Monad said:
FatherAnderson said:

He probably wants to put it on a portable media device like a smart phone. Hard drive space is a problem with these devices.


Do those devices even read mkv files? Even if they do can they show the subs and isn't it hard to read subs on those?


Not that hard, actually. I have a Nokia E6-00, which has a rather small screen. The subtitles are rather clean and easy to read on it. On something like an iPhone or a Samsung, it should be even easier.
Sep 20, 2014 2:09 AM

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thepath said:
Use hanbrake and choose H.264 with CRF 25 or 24 and change resolution to SD (usually 854x480 for 16:9 or 640x480 for old 4:3 video)


for slightly lower filesizes that will not degrade much the sharpness of the video try 704x400 for 16:9 and 512x384 for 4:3

thepath said:

Also, make sure to select High Profile settings, and Placebo for x264 Presets, and Animation for x264 Tunes in settings if you want the best possible size/quality ratio. However, the encoding will very slow specially if have slow CPU


placebo preset is overkill you are just gonna waste a lot of time and electricity bills with only 1% of compression benefit this is very well known on doom9 forums because darkshikari one of the developers of x264 have mentioned this too, so preset veryslow is enough

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As for audio I recommend using Foober2000 and choose nero AAC for audio encoding and choose something like q 0.25 or q 0.3 for quality settings. And then using MKVToolnix to add the audio to mkv file


as of this moment Handbrake Nightly Builds has HE-AAC (FDK) too now so no need for a separate encoding process for audio
Sep 21, 2014 6:33 PM

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winmac32 said:
Okay keep in mind that an MKV file is just a container. AVI, MP4 and 3GP are also containers.

What's important here is the codec and compression format used to encode the video.

^

Anyway, for the smallest file sizes I know of (though I don't pretend to be particularly savvy here), I would recommend the x264 codec. Make sure you have 2 encode passes and you're good to go.
Sep 22, 2014 7:15 PM

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TripleSRank said:

Anyway, for the smallest file sizes I know of (though I don't pretend to be particularly savvy here), I would recommend the x264 codec. Make sure you have 2 encode passes and you're good to go.


its already 2014 and you are still recommending 2-pass/multi-pass encoding? the preferred way to encode now is CRF or average quality when using x264 or even x265
Sep 22, 2014 10:11 PM

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j0x said:
TripleSRank said:

Anyway, for the smallest file sizes I know of (though I don't pretend to be particularly savvy here), I would recommend the x264 codec. Make sure you have 2 encode passes and you're good to go.


its already 2014 and you are still recommending 2-pass/multi-pass encoding? the preferred way to encode now is CRF or average quality when using x264 or even x265

The OP is asking for a file size reduction. Two passes give you the best quality for the file size, afaik.

Everyone was mentioning a lower-quality convert, but I figured I'd mention another option since I personally like to keep higher quality videos if possible.
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TripleSRank said:
j0x said:


its already 2014 and you are still recommending 2-pass/multi-pass encoding? the preferred way to encode now is CRF or average quality when using x264 or even x265

The OP is asking for a file size reduction. Two passes give you the best quality for the file size, afaik.

Everyone was mentioning a lower-quality convert, but I figured I'd mention another option since I personally like to keep higher quality videos if possible.
Then, OP(most probably doesn't care now) will have a better chance with x265.
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TripleSRank said:
j0x said:


its already 2014 and you are still recommending 2-pass/multi-pass encoding? the preferred way to encode now is CRF or average quality when using x264 or even x265

The OP is asking for a file size reduction. Two passes give you the best quality for the file size, afaik.

Everyone was mentioning a lower-quality convert, but I figured I'd mention another option since I personally like to keep higher quality videos if possible.


CRF will give you better quality because its average quality or target quality method but filesize will be random while 2-pass is average filesize or target filesize method but filesize will be constant

there is this thing in video encoding called video complexity or compressibility which says that high motion scenes (explosions, OP video songs, action scenes) will need higher bitrate/filesize to maintain quality while low motion scenes (talking heads, background movements) will only need low bitrate/filesize to maintain quality, every video scenes has different compressibility and every episode has different compressibility so CRF is the best method right now to attain a target quality

you just pick a CRF high value like value 24 or 26 for example (to lessen bitrate overall) and as well as pick a low resolution like 400p and the quality and filesize will automatically adjust to the target quality and you will use that value 24 or 26 for all of your encodings of a given anime series
Sep 22, 2014 10:36 PM

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as a proof that CRF can be use on mini-size re-encoding/transcoding here are my recent re-encodes of Hunter X Hunter 2011, i use 400p as resolution and CRF value 26 for all of that videos, im still using x264/h264 at the moment

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Mod edit: There was a spam link above here, so j0x isn't referring to his own post here ;)

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OP is a member of YIFY.
This is why YIFY has pleb-level video and audio quality in their uploads.




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Nov 29, 2015 7:18 AM
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iCameSwagYOLO420 said:
Step 1) Grab the video and change the render settings to low quality
Step 3) Lower quality till its barely watchable then render
Step 3) ????????????
Step 4) Profit

If your converting you'll go from a video I presume is 720p or 1080p if its about 300Mb, jumping down to 50 will make the video illegible, <100Mb your talking 240p 360p at a push. Best you will probibly get them down to is 100ish Mb if you convert to MP4
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Lower the bitrate, but you should be aware of the quality drop.

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