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Feb 14, 2014 1:47 PM
#422
Most overrated anime I've ever watched... Poor and too boring story from the beginning to the end... With few action scenes... Just a story and dialogues ... very, very, very bad and BORING dialogues... 2/10 (just because of animation) |
Feb 14, 2014 1:54 PM
#423
It blows my mind that Monster didnt get the same treatment. |
Feb 14, 2014 2:44 PM
#424
ssjokg said: It blows my mind that Monster didnt get the same treatment. Oh please. Let the man enjoy the narrative nine out of ten greatness that is naruto. |
Mar 5, 2014 11:06 PM
#425
Lots of bromance this episode. The caster and Uryuu cracked me up and the moments between Waver and Iskander were great. A cliffhanger ending only leaves one possibility - continue! Not really sure what score to give with an unfinished story, so I guess 9/10 for now since I've yet to dislike a minute of this. |
Apr 18, 2014 6:30 AM
#426
10\10 |
Apr 24, 2014 1:18 AM
#427
jesus christ this show is awesome and i fricken love rider so god dam much |
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May 7, 2014 10:35 PM
#429
1. Ryuunosuke needs to die along with his twisted child murders 2. So much dialogue…at least we gonna see caster go down in next ep 5/10 |
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May 23, 2014 10:07 PM
#430
wait Ryuunosuke believes in a god.Didint see that coming.Rider buying video games AWESOME!!!!Nice rider and waver moment.I have feeling lancers master will be the death of him.Thats was one hell of a season cliffhanger now on to the second season. |
May 31, 2014 7:32 PM
#431
Pretty good I suppose, not as masterful as I was expecting. A solid 8.5 which I'll just round up to a 9. Onto the next part. |
Jun 7, 2014 4:40 PM
#432
I love Rider. As I watched the episode, I was thinking that if this show were a shounen, he and his master would totally have been the main characters. Can't wait to see Saber do something. I want her to prove she's the best like all the exposition implied |
Jun 8, 2014 4:18 AM
#433
yaddayadda said: I love Rider. As I watched the episode, I was thinking that if this show were a shounen, he and his master would totally have been the main characters. Can't wait to see Saber do something. I want her to prove she's the best like all the exposition implied How did it imply she's the best? |
Jun 8, 2014 4:24 AM
#434
Botato said: yaddayadda said: I love Rider. As I watched the episode, I was thinking that if this show were a shounen, he and his master would totally have been the main characters. Can't wait to see Saber do something. I want her to prove she's the best like all the exposition implied How did it imply she's the best? Saber class stronger blablabla, main poster girl blablabla,MC's Servant etc |
Jun 8, 2014 4:40 AM
#435
ssjokg said: Botato said: yaddayadda said: I love Rider. As I watched the episode, I was thinking that if this show were a shounen, he and his master would totally have been the main characters. Can't wait to see Saber do something. I want her to prove she's the best like all the exposition implied How did it imply she's the best? Saber class stronger blablabla, main poster girl blablabla,MC's Servant etc Most probably yeah. Figures :| |
Jun 8, 2014 7:54 AM
#436
Botato said: ssjokg said: Botato said: yaddayadda said: I love Rider. As I watched the episode, I was thinking that if this show were a shounen, he and his master would totally have been the main characters. Can't wait to see Saber do something. I want her to prove she's the best like all the exposition implied How did it imply she's the best? Saber class stronger blablabla, main poster girl blablabla,MC's Servant etc Most probably yeah. Figures :| Saber class IS strongest...in stats. WHich mean jackshit in nasuverse, since haxx>stats. |
Jun 8, 2014 8:15 AM
#437
Fai said: Botato said: ssjokg said: Botato said: yaddayadda said: I love Rider. As I watched the episode, I was thinking that if this show were a shounen, he and his master would totally have been the main characters. Can't wait to see Saber do something. I want her to prove she's the best like all the exposition implied How did it imply she's the best? Saber class stronger blablabla, main poster girl blablabla,MC's Servant etc Most probably yeah. Figures :| Saber class IS strongest...in stats. WHich mean jackshit in nasuverse, since haxx>stats. What got me curious is that Tokiomi proclaimed victory when he summoned Gil and stated that he is the most powerful servant. How did one or two statements about Saber class having high stats suddenly become "she's the best" when other servants were shown/claimed to be 'the most powerful' too? (At this point we've seen Rider being badass and Kirei said that his RM is too powerful, Kariya claimed his servant is the strongest and he will not lose, and then there's also Gil like I said...) |
Jun 8, 2014 1:55 PM
#438
Botato said: Fai said: Botato said: ssjokg said: Botato said: yaddayadda said: I love Rider. As I watched the episode, I was thinking that if this show were a shounen, he and his master would totally have been the main characters. Can't wait to see Saber do something. I want her to prove she's the best like all the exposition implied How did it imply she's the best? Saber class stronger blablabla, main poster girl blablabla,MC's Servant etc Most probably yeah. Figures :| Saber class IS strongest...in stats. WHich mean jackshit in nasuverse, since haxx>stats. What got me curious is that Tokiomi proclaimed victory when he summoned Gil and stated that he is the most powerful servant. How did one or two statements about Saber class having high stats suddenly become "she's the best" when other servants were shown/claimed to be 'the most powerful' too? (At this point we've seen Rider being badass and Kirei said that his RM is too powerful, Kariya claimed his servant is the strongest and he will not lose, and then there's also Gil like I said...) Because Gil is THE oldest servant. If you Summon Gil, if you can manage to coexist and direct him successfully, you won. So far only Fate/Extra protagonist managed to do it and that resulted in Gilgamesh casually breaking through dimensions and reality out of S.E.R.A.P.H(the tech-based reality marble of Moon Cell) with willpower alone, crossing the galaxy at the speed of light, laughing at their version of holy grail, saving the protagonist and offering her the trip through alien worlds together, since humans are boring Saber is the best because Saber class has the best stats, but it still depends on hax of the identity summoned - Herc as Saber would be unstoppable for example. In case of Altria/Arthuria, she has Excalibur - also known as the sword whose attacks have been compared to true magic(there's a reason why in prisma illya kaleidostick makeshift version of Zelretch cannon uses traced parallel versions of excaliburs to output the blast against berserker Dark Sakura comparing JEwel Sword's blasts as being similar to excaliblasts |
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Jun 8, 2014 2:04 PM
#439
^ I know all of this, what I was curious about is why yaddayadda thought Saber was "the best" even though other servants were also stated to be powerful/the best/etc... Especially Gil. Like you said stats mean nothing alone, there are a lot of other factors that come into play. |
Jun 8, 2014 2:06 PM
#440
Botato said: ^ I know all of this, what I was curious about is why yaddayadda thought Saber was "the best" even though other servants were also stated to be powerful/the best/etc... Especially Gil. Like you said stats mean nothing alone, there are a lot of other factors that come into play. BEcause Saber is the best class. Not necessarily best summoned servant. |
Jun 8, 2014 2:15 PM
#441
Never mind, he seems to have left this thread for good so whatever. |
Jun 8, 2014 9:42 PM
#442
Fai said: [spoiler]In case of Altria/Arthuria, she has Excalibur - also known as the sword whose attacks have been compared to true magic(there's a reason why in prisma illya kaleidostick makeshift version of Zelretch cannon uses traced parallel versions of excaliburs to output the blast against berserker Dark Sakura comparing Jewel Sword's blasts as being similar to excaliblasts You know that the kaleidosticks could have done that with any NP.Excalibur has never been compared to True Magic. Excalibur is a mana canon. Jewel Sword is also a mana canon (that works differently as well). How does that make Excalibur similar to True Magic? |
Jun 9, 2014 12:17 AM
#443
ssjokg said: Fai said: [spoiler]In case of Altria/Arthuria, she has Excalibur - also known as the sword whose attacks have been compared to true magic(there's a reason why in prisma illya kaleidostick makeshift version of Zelretch cannon uses traced parallel versions of excaliburs to output the blast against berserker Dark Sakura comparing Jewel Sword's blasts as being similar to excaliblasts You know that the kaleidosticks could have done that with any NP.Excalibur has never been compared to True Magic. Excalibur is a mana canon. Jewel Sword is also a mana canon (that works differently as well). How does that make Excalibur similar to True Magic? What I meant is that Excalibur was the most fitting in terms of energy output to replicate the effect. Its NOT "true magic", but excaliblast is akin to what true magic can produce, similar enough to confuse them with each other(case of Dark Sakura). Its not true magic, but in the way the attack works is similar enough(in the same way how Shirou's projection/tracing is similar to First, but is NOT it) t for it to be used in the makeshift use of it. Its the attack that is entirely dependent on the mana reserve you have, so while as NP its a one-trick-pony, its one-trick-pony that can oneshot stuff. |
Jun 9, 2014 12:48 AM
#444
Wait when did anyone mention Excalibur? *goes to previous page* Oh, you edited your post :| It wasn't necessary to mention it, because what I was talking about are the stuff mentioned in F/Z up until episode 13 (this one). From what is shown in these episodes, one can conclude that "the best" is one of Gil/Saber/Berserker/ and to an extent Rider. The "exposition" didn't focus solely on making Saber look awesome or the best. That's why I found the original comment questionable. Ok now to run away and leave you two have fun, walls of text scare me sometimes... |
Aug 17, 2014 3:06 PM
#445
Hmm, rather weak and unclimatic episode. Caster/Ryuunosuke is by far the worst pair of this war and to have them as main antagonists of the first half is very counterproductive as their defeat won't produce desirable impact. So far, it seems to me that everyone in this anime just runs in its scripted tunnel with predetermined role to the point it's almost obvious. There is no real planning, no clever tactics, everyone just intercepts enemy head-on. It's almost like masters of this war are puppets of their servants, maybe with exception of Kotomine and Kiritsugu (but even those are taken from visual novel). This stands as proof that original FSN did a lot better job with their characterization. Here, I somehow can't relate to those masters. But maybe this is all intentional and this emphasis on Servants and their stories is what matters here. Lancer, Saber, Rider and Archer are all being fleshed-out pretty well and I like those characters. But I really don't know if their wishes and wishes of their masters are worth fighting for, so far this war seems kinda underwhelming to me. Call me a heretic but if I had to compare first half of Ufotable F/Z with first part Deen's F/SN I would say the latter did better job (not to mention visual novel, that's leagues elsewhere). F/Z is good so far but the problem is, it doesn't really stand out. It's almost funny that the best episode for me was Rin's adventure and yet, that was flashback to the past. Whereas in FSN I found many of those interesting moments, namely eps. 2,4,11,12 and 14. Let's hope that the second part will be as mindblowing as to dispel those doubts of mine. |
Aug 18, 2014 12:23 AM
#446
^Ok.....Heretic. Really if we bring characterization to the table, Deen's FSN is miles behind. |
Aug 18, 2014 12:34 AM
#447
Mich666 said: Hmm, rather weak and unclimatic episode. That's because it's a cliffhangar, not a climax. Mich666 said: There is no real planning, no clever tactics, everyone just intercepts enemy head-on. That's the antithesis of a certain master's tactics. Mich666 said: It's almost like masters of this war are puppets of their servants, maybe with exception of Kotomine and Kiritsugu (but even those are taken from visual novel). There are no puppets, just people who can't see eye to eye. Neither really controls the other. Except that's not true because the masters have command spells. That implies that when they are dragged around by their servants, there is still some degree of acceptance of the situation. Mich666 said: This stands as proof that original FSN did a lot better job with their characterization. I don't see how that works. Mich666 said: Here, I somehow can't relate to those masters. Maybe because they're not "normal" teenagers? Mich666 said: Lancer, Saber, Rider and Archer are all being fleshed-out pretty well and I like those characters. Doesn't this contradict what you just said about bad characterization? |
Aug 18, 2014 4:25 AM
#448
ssjokg said: ^Ok.....Heretic. Really if we bring characterization to the table, Deen's FSN is miles behind. When talking about characterization, I was talking about visual novel, ofc. Deen was doomed when they tried to adapt all three routes at once and their problem with explaining fundamentals is all known. The thing is, I actually enjoyed what they did (at least up to the ep14) as it was great to relive some moments from novel. I am very curious what Ufotable gives us this year and I am looking forward to see their pacing as putting 100+ hour novel into 13 hours anime is one big challenge. I fear they'll go all dark and serious, cutting all slice-of-life stuff but that's to be seen. fst said: Maybe because they're not "normal" teenagers? You don't have to be a teenager to actually relate to some characters (no to mention I am no longer one). It's more about of how their decisions and thinking are presented to the viewer in way of emotions and experiences to relate to. fst said: Doesn't this contradict what you just said about bad characterization? No, because I was talking solely about masters in that paragraph. I am talking about Servants in next one (and I actually like their characterization, Rider and Archer being the best). But regarding this war's masters - let's face it, from what we actually saw, can you symphatize with anyone? Tokiomi - is just hiding and observing situation Ryuunosuke - is deranged mental that likes killing, nothing else Keyneth - was excessively self-confident mage who sufferred because of his overly bloated ego Sola Ui - is poor mage that got the power. One moment she is head over heels over Lancer and the next one she is breaking Kayneth's fingers. I really don't know who she is, we got no details of her past. Yes, there is some suspicion surrounding her but hey, is that really enough? Kariya - is good character, but he was almost nonexistent in the first half Waver - is boy who still doesn't know what he wants Kotomine and Kiritsugu aside, as those two are just doing precisely what's expected of them based on FSN novel. But I have to admitt they did a good job with Iri (though technically, she isn't master). I'm just saying that with Servants getting most of the screentime, there was little to no time to flesh out those Masters better in other way than just showing their archetypes. I am not saying this is all bad in long term but when you look back on those thirteen eps (as there was three month pause during original screening) you quickly realize they moved almost nowhere. You can say they spent whole first half on building the world and the base for everything that's poised to happen in the second half. They really took their time talking as long as they could before the blowing everything up. The amount of new characters they needed to introduce didn't help either, it only slowed-down overall pacing. The fact that many people liked that is only coming from promise of even greater resolution. The thing I fear is they raised the bar too high. I mean, if they continue to develop those characters even further and if they actually give us some satisfactory conclusion then I would say it was well worth it. But if not, well, then this was just a nice little extra for FSN fans and very long introduction for first time viewers, nothing more. |
Aug 18, 2014 4:26 PM
#449
This episode made me grow fond of Ryuunosuke and his servant. They're insane as hell, but they're a pretty cool pair who are not afraid of anything. |
Aug 18, 2014 9:36 PM
#450
Mich666 said: fst said: Doesn't this contradict what you just said about bad characterization? No, because I was talking solely about masters in that paragraph. I am talking about Servants in next one (and I actually like their characterization, Rider and Archer being the best). But regarding this war's masters - let's face it, from what we actually saw, can you symphatize with anyone? They don't need to be relatable to be interesting to watch, it just makes it hard to care about what happens to them. Which is just as well since it's a deathmatch and you know from episode 1 that most of them will get the axe. Mich666 said: Tokiomi - is just hiding and observing situation Ryuunosuke - is deranged mental that likes killing, nothing else Keyneth - was excessively self-confident mage who sufferred because of his overly bloated ego Sola Ui - is poor mage that got the power. One moment she is head over heels over Lancer and the next one she is breaking Kayneth's fingers. I really don't know who she is, we got no details of her past. Yes, there is some suspicion surrounding her but hey, is that really enough? Kariya - is good character, but he was almost nonexistent in the first half Waver - is boy who still doesn't know what he wants Tokiomi doesn't do much, but personally I find him hilarious, though not due to anything that he does in the first half. If you want to know more about Sola, the novel gives more backstory on her character. But frankly... her motivations are much simpler than that. Waver is probably by far the most sympathetic master in this war. But, for him more so than almost all of the other masters, it's pointless to discuss the merits of his character until the end. Mich666 said: Kotomine and Kiritsugu aside, as those two are just doing precisely what's expected of them based on FSN novel. But I have to admitt they did a good job with Iri (though technically, she isn't master). I'm just saying that with Servants getting most of the screentime, there was little to no time to flesh out those Masters better in other way than just showing their archetypes. It's difficult to have 14 really well fleshed out characters in a 26 episode series. Once the bodies start piling up though, it leaves more screentime to flesh out the ones who are still alive. |
Aug 18, 2014 10:55 PM
#451
The only thing I have to say about what you said Mich666, is that Caster Team is by far the best couple in FZ.Sure you can also mention Kirei and Gil or Rider and Waver, but Caster and Ryuunosuke was the best pair since the first minute of the contract.Yes they are crazy bloodthirsty serial killers and aI could add even more to that characterization, but that doesnt change their chemistry. Ryuunosuke's acceptance(for lack of better word) of Caster and Caster's devotion to him is one of the best parts, regarding Servant-Master relationships in the series. |
Aug 19, 2014 6:26 AM
#452
fst said: They don't need to be relatable to be interesting to watch, it just makes it hard to care about what happens to them. Yes, and that's precisely why I was talking about that. spoiler regarding next two episodes: This is especially true in the case of Caster and Ryuunosuke. In the end, their death felt like no accomplishment to me as they were just figures destined to die. fst said: Once the bodies start piling up though, it leaves more screentime to flesh out the ones who are still alive. And that's why I am looking forward to next episodes as clash of Kotomine x Kiritsugu worldviews is something that pretty much defines worth of this series. ssjokg said: The only thing I have to say about what you said Mich666, is that Caster Team is by far the best couple in FZ.Sure you can also mention Kirei and Gil or Rider and Waver, but Caster and Ryuunosuke was the best pair since the first minute of the contract.Yes they are crazy bloodthirsty serial killers and aI could add even more to that characterization, but that doesnt change their chemistry. Ryuunosuke's acceptance(for lack of better word) of Caster and Caster's devotion to him is one of the best parts, regarding Servant-Master relationships in the series. I'm afraid I can't see your point here but let's say we have different tastes with this one. For me, the best couples are Waver/Rider and Saber/Iri (yes, she is no master but acts as one) and that's mainly because of their great interactions with each other, those really fleshed out their characters. Yes, Ryuunosuke and Caster had the most understanding for themselves but they actually didn't take this War seriously and in the result they felt bit out of place for me. And I guess their backgrounds could have been done better. |
Aug 19, 2014 7:25 AM
#453
I think you are watching this with the wrong mindset. For example the planning part: Only Kirei and Caster were "planning" in FSN but we only see the results.Sakura acts on impulse thanks to the shadow and the only thing Rin and Shirou do is scouting at night. The only "real" planning by them is when they counterattack, which also happens in FZ. Also about "everyone's" fate is FZ.Excluding Kirei and Kiritusgu the only reason you know that Waver survives is because of other works or forum spoilers FZ has nothing to do with other works or fanboys go around spoiling it (irony). [quote=Mich666] fst said: ssjokg said: The only thing I have to say about what you said Mich666, is that Caster Team is by far the best couple in FZ.Sure you can also mention Kirei and Gil or Rider and Waver, but Caster and Ryuunosuke was the best pair since the first minute of the contract.Yes they are crazy bloodthirsty serial killers and aI could add even more to that characterization, but that doesnt change their chemistry. Ryuunosuke's acceptance(for lack of better word) of Caster and Caster's devotion to him is one of the best parts, regarding Servant-Master relationships in the series. I'm afraid I can't see your point here but let's say we have different tastes with this one. For me, the best couples are Waver/Rider and Saber/Iri (yes, she is no master but acts as one) and that's mainly because of their great interactions with each other, those really fleshed out their characters. Yes, Ryuunosuke and Caster had the most understanding for themselves but they actually didn't take this War seriously and in the result they felt bit out of place for me. And I guess their backgrounds could have been done better. My point is that they arent the worst couple in FZ.Unlikeable yes.Most hated ones(except Zouken) yes but not the worst. Bold:Doesnt really matter. Gil doenst care about the war either, but he just happens to have a different sources of pleasure. The background could have been better for everyone, like Maiya who is just Kiritsugu tool in the anime or Sola who is just a out of nowhere yandere, but that doesnt stop them from being interesting. |
Aug 23, 2014 1:43 PM
#454
While I feel like a fool for holding off watching this for so long, being a huge FSN fan, I'm so happy I did. Can't even imagine the torture of waiting for the second season with such a cliffhanger. Overall brilliant first half, enjoyed every second of every episode. Not a single disappointment, loved it all the way through! 9/10. Probably 10/10 if it was one full season. |
Sep 4, 2014 11:56 PM
#455
A serial killer with an understanding of God. I wonder what the secular world's excuse is. |
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Sep 7, 2014 1:34 PM
#456
Sep 7, 2014 9:38 PM
#457
Meritas said: Because DEEN's anime is mediocre and looks like shit.What a horrible cliffhanger. Gonna score this after I see Season 2. But for now I don't really see why people hype it better than F/SN, before even seeing S2. Personally I am not all that impressed for now. The VN is better than F/Z though. |
Oct 3, 2014 5:29 PM
#458
On to s2 |
Oct 10, 2014 9:25 AM
#459
That god stuff were terrible, had to skip it. Meh episode overall. 7.5 -> 8/10 (I had 7 in mind but episode 11 was too good). Decent series so far, has some problems, but might get fixed in the second season. I will watch the second season after a while. |
Oct 23, 2014 9:17 PM
#460
I have seen this series twice and in two different languages, preferred the dub oh so so much, to try and understand and make since of this series. LOTS OF TALKING! LOTS! To me that hurt the execution. Sometimes it was as boring as how Gilgamesh felt about Tokiyomi. I could not take stuff like Saber and Lancer's fight seriously when they make it seem like they were on a date. (Spoiler: Although that gets put to bed much later.) I couldn't really "enjoy" the "Joy" talks between Kirei and Gilgamesh because you have to watch their scenes like a freaking psychoanalyst, but the dub helped greatly in deciphering those scenes. Also, my favorite episode was the Rin focused one. That said, I did understand where a lot of the stuff I missed or misunderstood came and went. Kiritsugu is scared of Kirei because he can't read how Kirei operates like he can the other Masters. Kirei is interested in Kiritsugu because Kiritsugu seems like a death seeker more than a mercenary, but it was Kariya's circumstances that actually started sadistic nature. Tokiyomi is MEANT to be as boring a character as Gilgamesh makes him out to be.Even if he does have some good moments. Also, as focused as I had to be during Kirei and Gilgamesh's "Joy" talks; understanding them made watching the rest of Kirei's development later much more fun to watch. This season is basically the "set-up" season for when crap hits the fan in season 2. I'm kind of surprised the show did as well as it did considering the awful spot they decided to leave the audience at for the six month wait for season 2. Season 1 is the only season I felt I needed to say something about. I give season 1 7/10, Season 2 8/10, and the show totally 8/10. Plug time: To get around some WAY overpriced Aniplex of America dubs remember this: Netflix is your friend. |
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Nov 17, 2014 7:21 PM
#461
I really enjoyed this season. The first episode bored the hell out of me but the pacing improved rapidly afterwards. My friend hyped it up so I was expecting more philosophy and shit. Nevertheless, it was quite amazing overall especially for someone like me who hates watching action and fights. 7/10 although I'm considering an 8/10 but I can't think of any reasons why I would rate this higher. :/ It's probably just my low attention span, but I still didn't understand the rivalry between Kirei and Kiritsugu. And some other things confused me. I'll read it up later. My favourite characters are Rider (lol he and Waver are a hilarious combo), Lancer (mostly bc his backstory and voice actor hnnng) and Gilgamesh who's just LOL in general and sassy. |
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Dec 13, 2014 9:18 AM
#462
Aozure said: While I feel like a fool for holding off watching this for so long, being a huge FSN fan, I'm so happy I did. Can't even imagine the torture of waiting for the second season with such a cliffhanger. Overall brilliant first half, enjoyed every second of every episode. Not a single disappointment, loved it all the way through! 9/10. Probably 10/10 if it was one full season. +1 |
Dec 31, 2014 6:52 AM
#463
Welp, that was an odd but interesting way to end the cour. I feel like this cour was more or less about developing Waver and ISKANDAR KING OF CONQUERORS, as well as Ryuunosuke and Caster to a lesser degree, so I'm guessing they'll take the back seat next cour while the other Masters are further developed. Kiritsugu is supposed to be the main character, but how many scenes did he truly get? Hopefully the second cour focuses on him much more. In any case, this first half was utterly amazing and as a considerable F/SN fan fulfilled my expectations and then some. Since the second cour is supposedly when everything comes together, I predict I'll ultimately end up appreciating F/Z even more than I appreciate F/SN. P.S. the dub is fucking fantastic and the dialogue is too amazing for me to have witnessed this in Japanese where I wouldn't truly "get it." Still trying to get used to Kari Wahlgren as Saber though after spending so much time with Ayako Kawasumi. :c |
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Jan 2, 2015 5:49 AM
#464
Completed for the second time the vision of the first season of F / Z, which mean ...! Excellent, although I saw during this fall 2014, the new production studio Ufotable or Fate / SN UBW. Anime that retains its charm due to the drawings of great quality, excellent animations, good scenarios and charismatic characters. Add to this a nice soundtrack. Final episode well managed in the dialogues, which succeeds in the narrative to convey the pathos worthy of the best anime. Final rating of 9/10! |
Jan 23, 2015 2:31 PM
#465
Warning!The following text is not suitable for fanboys,who can´t comprehend any bad things said about their favourite show.Short version : I found F/0 season one shitty. Wow.I admit I was pretty hyped up for that show.But I never imagined that it´ll disappoint me that much.I expected a tag-team battle royale;life or death fight for an object that could fulfill ANY wish.I think anyone would be more than eager to get this device in his hands.Sounds great.Let´s look at the kill cou-...oh.So one guy died.A faceless,nameless assassin,to which I have no emotional connection whatsoever.Instead I got 95% talking.Don´t get me wrong I´m always open for great dialogue like in Quentin Tarantinos or David Lynchs movies.But it´s like that quote "Image there´s war and nobody showed up".I got the feeling no one gives a fuck about this "war",to the point where they´re hanging out with each other,drinking wine,with their mortal enemys right infront of them.I fell asleep somewhere during episode 12 and I´m not even that motivated to look up what I´ve missed.And then I´m watching the forum and have to read things like "CHIBI LOLI RIN!!!","OMG RIN IS SO MOE!!!! <3 HER SO MUCH!" and "The compass animation was very good!".All rated 5/5. I swear I´m not even making those quotes up.Another thing that´s bugging me is that I can tell pretty sure,that Saber is going to win this,simply because of the cover and the amount of screen time she gets.The response I got was "The ending of Zero is INTENTIONALLY predictable. Fate/Zero is a Greek tragedy[...]".I know every show has it´s fanboys and I´m perfectly fine with that but they are hyping it to levels waaay above it´s state.Too bad,really.Most of the characters seem very like.Ehh,what else...well the animation is pretty good too. Clap Clap Clap Anyways,I´m going to read up if the second season is any different from the first.If that´s not the case I´m not even going to bother myself with it.Maybe it´s like Clannad where the first season is shit and the second is way better.But Clannad is an other story... |
SemRomJan 24, 2015 1:13 AM
Jan 23, 2015 2:57 PM
#466
So it is shitty because not all teams care enough about some wish?Because they dont have a wish?Not to mention their limitations both as magi and as being tactical. Oh so Saber is gonna win because of the cover? Also you use quotes form ONE ep to judge an entire forum? Building up means being shitty? What does that make Baccano then? And that's why Priests are being dicks to others. |
Jan 27, 2015 4:40 PM
#467
FZ despite what Zero secondaries say is NOT about grail war either. It is about characters fucking up. Characters making mistakes, or being stupid or not focusing on their goals enough IS THE POINT because the outcome of this greek tragedy is predetermined. Viewers are expected to expect those people to FAIL and to be interested in HOW. So yes, it is correct whoever said that Zero is an INTENTIONAL Greek Tragedy. It is exactly that. It is a countdown to the event that gives birth to the actual Fate Stay Night storyline and by this point a viewer should already know what that is and be interested in finding out HOW it all plays out. If Fate franchise was a detective thriller, then FSN would be the main part of the movie where characters interact and try to solve a murder, while Fate/Zero would be that flashback near the end that recounts on HOW exactly that murder happened. |
Feb 7, 2015 10:04 AM
#468
Recently decided to start going through this series (starting with Zero) and I'm thoroughly satisfied with this first season. Has some the most gorgeous animation I've seen but the dialogue is equally engaging. |
Hoping I soak up enough game to play three systems with one controller |
Feb 7, 2015 11:32 AM
#469
Inb4 Fai attack about how should've watched SN first. Not that I disagree with him. |
InsertanamehereFeb 7, 2015 11:52 AM
Feb 7, 2015 11:39 AM
#470
Prodigal_Enigma said: Recently decided to start going through this series (starting with Zero) and I'm thoroughly satisfied with this first season. Has some the most gorgeous animation I've seen but the dialogue is equally engaging. Good choice. Starting with UBW is a bad idea. |
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