Who should Kodaka choose? Mikazuki Yozora or Kashiwazaki Sena?! Let's discuss! (+Other club members)
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Which pairing do you prefer?
Oct 23, 2011 10:36 AM
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| *Update: I decided to spice things up with extra choices in the poll. Unrelated to the two main heroines but still fun right? **Update: Personally, I only know about 4 volumes worth of the Boku wa Tomodachi novel on B-T. However.. I am aware of the existence of veteran fans who have read much further than that. Please don't be shy feel free to share your knowledge here based on any developments other readers/viewers are unaware of. In other words, don't hold back and use whatever you know to back up your favorite heroine! Just make sure to stick with the rules below. Thank you! Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai is a light novel series written by HIRASAKA Yomi and illustrated by Buriki, with 4 volumes so far released, and the fifth one coming out at the end of November. Baka-Tsuki is currently translating the work under Teaser Projects, being almost done with the first volume. This discussion thread is intended for the Light Novel series Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai as well as the manga produced by Comic Live and the currently airing anime by AIC Build. Remember to use Spoiler Tags when appropriate. And don't forget to indicate the content of your post (e.g. vol #, ch #, ep #). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ IF YOU PARTICIPATE IN THE POLL, THEN YOU SHOULD PARTICIPATE IN THIS DISCUSSION TO BACK UP YOUR VOTE. FEEL FREE TO USE WHATEVER YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SERIES WHETHER IT'S FROM THE ANIME, MANGA OR NOVEL CONCERNING YOZORA OR SENA'S RELATIONSHIP WITH KODAKA. BEWARE OF SPOILERS, CAUSE THIS POLL HAS'EM!. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mikazuki Yozora So... I'm sure everyone is familiar with the First Heroine + Childhood friend = FLAWLESS VICTORY!! formula. That being said.. I'm sure the word cliche comes to mind.. but remember that this series is very unique which makes up for that indefinitely. Not to mention that this series is very enjoyable and fun. Aside from that.. it just feels right that Kodaka and Yozora are paired up in the end. Before I continue, to all you harem ending lover types... I would be extremely disappointed with a harem like ending. I mean.. come on now.. I know you guys are hungry to turn these types of masterpieces into harems but this series clearly doesn't have the right kind of feel for that. Save it for Sora no Otoshimono. Anyway.. concerning Sena I do like her.. Who wouldn't? She's a fucking hot blonde. However I just can't see Kodaka and Sena getting together because of personality. The two of them were very close as children and formed a tight bond.. so they definetly are a good match. I mean...it is obvious that Kodaka is a bit infatuated with her. It's also quite obvious that Yozora likes Kodaka.. so someone has to give so to speak. Some thoughts on this topic for people who have read the novel/manga or want spoilers: Yeah I know.. Sena is "the ideal girlfriend for all otakus".. But kmon.. Have you heard about the whole arranged marriage thing between Sena and Kodaka? Apparently it was decided long ago. Kodaka said he didn't take it seriously but that can easily change if he develops feelings for Sena.. that is so cheap. Pairing up 2 characters in a series as popular as Boku Wa Tomodachi just because it was pre-determined is completely and utterly retarded. Plus, having a cool type character like Yozora tossed to the side in the end doesn't really feel right. I just can't see it happening. I mean.. look at what Yozora has been through: 10 years later. She reunites with the guy. She now looks completely different, and the guy obviously doesn't recognizes her. Heck, he might not even remember their time together. She was frozen in fear. If he indeed not remember her, then all her memories with him in the past are now worthless. Her only 'BFF' turns out to be not so forever after all. But all these changed in the classroom scene. So she has a plan. What if she can reproduce the condition that led them together 10 years ago? It shouldn't be hard at all. She knows that Kodaka is still as crowd-aversive as before. They can't be fight buddies anymore. But what they can do is, instead of fighting other people together, she can proposes that they can befriend other people together. Hopefully this can recreate the condition that led to their friendship. Then why didn't Yozora just tell Kodaka 'hey we were friends, remember?' I believe this is because Yozora loves Kodaka. It might be that she wants Kodaka to fall in love with her, not because of their past relation, but because of her current girl self. She wants him to fall in love with the now her. The plan would have worked too, if other people didn't join. Do you honestly expect me to believe that this huge chunk of plot was for shit? Just to toss away for the "arranged marriage"/"Ideal otaku" scene. Yeah fucking right. Sena has just jumped into the race for Kodaka with her cheap "arranged marriage" card. I don't mind her presenting a challenge but it would just be complete and utter bullshit for her to win. Gotta love Yozora.. ![]() And of course you have to appreciate Sena.. even if you're a Yozora lover like me. I mean.. just look at that meat. ![]() |
MonkOnLSDJan 2, 2012 7:05 PM
Oct 23, 2011 2:05 PM
#2
| I'd tap all of them, but on topic... It's REALLY hard to choose, but I'd have to go with the childhood friend Yozora :3 |
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Oct 23, 2011 2:05 PM
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Oct 23, 2011 2:57 PM
#4
Sozora said: I'd tap all of them, but on topic... It's REALLY hard to choose, but I'd have to go with the childhood friend Yozora :3 mdz said: Hate anime that make both female leads likable, seriously :. I guess as of right now, Yozora since they were childhood friends. Totally agree guys, plus I love Yozora's personality a whole lot better than Sena's. |
Oct 23, 2011 3:04 PM
#5
| Haven't seen anything likable about Yozora's personality at all. So Sena, naturally. |
Oct 23, 2011 3:14 PM
#6
LostHanyou said: Haven't seen anything likable about Yozora's personality at all. So Sena, naturally. Well I happen to like her type. Tsundere, smug, devious, competent, sexy, pretty. I like Sena but she is kind of confusing to me, she's a wannabe sadist at times.. then she's being handled and acts like a crybaby. I mean those things kinda make her cute and she's a bit of a tsundere herself but she's not as attractive as Yozora in my opinion. If she had smaller breasts then she wouldn't be as popular as everyone makes her out to be. I've read the manga and novel so I know the characters quite a bit. But I suppose everyone has a certain type they're drawn to. :P |
MonkOnLSDOct 23, 2011 3:24 PM
Oct 23, 2011 3:28 PM
#7
| Sadly, like most harem animes, We'll never get to see a ending to this dilemna. I do agree though. Both girls, even though they're bratty, are lovable, each in their own way. |
Oct 23, 2011 3:38 PM
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Cirris said: Sadly, like most harem animes, We'll never get to see a ending to this dilemna. I do agree though. Both girls, even though they're bratty, are lovable, each in their own way. I see what you're saying but for some reason I have faith that this anime will come to one decision at the end instead of being left in vague land for the sake of harem. I started feeling this way after reading volume 4 of the light novel. |
Oct 23, 2011 6:48 PM
#9
| I would go for either Yozora or Sena, but mostly Sena. |
Oct 23, 2011 7:20 PM
#11
| True harem end since he's already gotten it in the drama CD. |
Oct 23, 2011 7:55 PM
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notsureifsrs said: True harem end since he's already gotten it in the drama CD. Erhh... Not really. Thank you for your thoughts but I still don't see this turning harem ending at all. Something like the plot of a drama CD that has no connection to the actual story whatsoever should not decide that. Anyway.. I originally thought the chance of this series ending in harem was 50% but after finishing volume 4 of the light novel I've greatly lowered those expectations. Volume 5 has yet to be completed/translated so who knows really.. but if it does end in harem I'm going to be very fucking surprised. Also disapointed like so many others will be. However, like I said I'm pretty sure that In the end it will all come down to the 2 main heroines. Hoppy said: Maria or true harem end LMAO. Maria or true harem? xD Interesting... but in my opinion this series is too good to be limited to just those 2 particular scenarios lol. |
MonkOnLSDOct 23, 2011 8:01 PM
Oct 23, 2011 9:32 PM
#14
| Sena because she looks like Meme(dem eyes) from Denpa Onna, nuff said. |
Oct 24, 2011 8:15 AM
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Oct 24, 2011 7:27 PM
#16
Oct 24, 2011 7:28 PM
#17
5layer said: I often like the cool types, but Yozora is just plain annoying. Why even make a poll like this when nobody has even seen the other characters in the anime yet? Should have waited instead. Manga brooo |
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Oct 24, 2011 10:06 PM
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Oct 25, 2011 12:23 AM
#20
guanhian said: Sozora said: childhood friend Yozora :3 From what had I discovered, Sena is Kodaka's childhood friend too.. A fiancee! But I'm still supporting Yozora x Kodaka xD I'm a pro-Yozora so... I'd prefer not to see him end up with Sena(though I saw on the net that Sena is more popular than Yozora because she likes eroge -big argument-, because she's "moar feminine"...). I really like Yozora's "S" side, which is really funny to me ^.^ In the LN... even if Yozora's acting "bitchy", even if she cut her hair and looks like a boy(unlike Supaa Sena's boobs and feminity) I still love her. I mean, appearance is not everything. Just hope an emotional breakdown or something like that will shake her up in next volumes... So... Yozora x Kodaka ftw _o// |
Oct 25, 2011 1:37 AM
#21
| I voted for Sena. Cause, well, I like her more than Yozora. And, she seems to go along better with Kodaka than Yozora. Especially after EP. 3. Yeah, I know Kodaka and Yozora were once friends, but that's what makes the relationship with Sena more plausible and interesting, since, well, it' always better to be with someone other than a old friend. Makes the relationship more interesting. But, I'll be happy with whoever Kodaka gets. The entire cast seems to be awesome, so, no problems. He's one lucky guy! :D |
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Oct 25, 2011 6:27 AM
#22
Hoppy said: Maria or true harem end Maria is the true choice! |
Oct 25, 2011 6:51 AM
#23
| i believe he should go with Yozora because i think Sena just trying to tap something. Also, Sena doesnt seem into the whole making friends thing, while Yozora is serious. Sena is already surrounded, just not close to any guy, so there fore Yozora pwns all |
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Oct 25, 2011 7:04 AM
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5layer said: I often like the cool types, but Yozora is just plain annoying. Why even make a poll like this when nobody has even seen the other characters in the anime yet? Should have waited instead. FEEL FREE TO USE WHATEVER YOU KNOW ABOUT THE SERIES WHETHER IT'S FROM THE ANIME, MANGA OR NOVEL CONCERNING YOZORA OR SENA'S RELATIONSHIP WITH KODAKA. So if you're a newb to Boku wa then you shouldn't proceed if you don't want to be exposed to spoilers. :P Plus this poll is pretty popular already. But thank you for your input. n___n I'm a pro-Yozora so... I'd prefer not to see him end up with Sena(though I saw on the net that Sena is more popular than Yozora because she likes eroge -big argument-, because she's "moar feminine"...). I really like Yozora's "S" side, which is really funny to me ^.^ In the LN... even if Yozora's acting "bitchy", even if she cut her hair and looks like a boy(unlike Supaa Sena's boobs and feminity) I still love her. I mean, appearance is not everything. Just hope an emotional breakdown or something like that will shake her up in next volumes... So... Yozora x Kodaka ftw _o// Totally agree with you bra. Sena being the fiancee is like a total cheat. If you ask me, the author has no intention of putting Sena and Kodaka together at all. Yozora is definetly the number 1 candidate. Pairing 2 characters up just because they pre-determined to be together is completely retarded. If anything Yozora and Kodaka will get together (Even though Kodaka is being a bit of a coward atm in the novel..) and Kodaka will have to call off the arranged marriage because he is in love with Yozora. Also, I'm pretty sure Kodaka said he didn't really take the whole arranged marriage thing seriously. Just imagine for a moment that Kodaka does get with Sena. Yozora is way too important/cool a character to be pushed to the side that way. It wouldn't feel right at all. If you ask me it was determined from the very beggining just by feeling that Yozora and Kodaka will be together. |
MonkOnLSDOct 25, 2011 7:31 AM
Oct 25, 2011 10:49 AM
#25
| I am definitely rooting for Yozora both her appearance and her behavior are more appealing to me then that of Sena. I also like the childhood connection to Kodaka which gives her a advantage over Sena when in comes to appeal from Kodaka. Tho this may as well put her in a bad spot for him to be just seeing her as a friend. It should also be mentioned that Yozora is usually the one that starts with the harassing of Sena she was the one that killed Sena first in the video game she also waited till Sena got killed be the boss in the virtual reality game thing from Rika. And then off course there was the rape part in the group story they where writhing. Yozora can be very cruel which i like for some reason. |
Oct 25, 2011 10:59 AM
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PeKan said: Yozora is mean.. She is, poor Maria, she needs to be nice to her, she won't be going to Heaven bullying a nun. |
Oct 25, 2011 12:58 PM
#27
| There's a good reason on why sena is more popular...... I won't tell for now. But I who's reading the novels, thinks Yozora's is kind of...... Sadististic. I like sena better, but I would not mind: Kobato Maria Rika Yukimura |
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Oct 25, 2011 12:59 PM
#28
| Wow, no one likes Rika? I didn't expect that...... |
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Oct 25, 2011 2:17 PM
#30
GodlyKyon said: There's a good reason on why sena is more popular...... I won't tell for now. But I who's reading the novels, thinks Yozora's is kind of...... Sadististic. I like sena better, but I would not mind: Kobato Maria Rika Yukimura Why don't you share with us your reasoning? What is this "good reason" for sena being more popular? I'm curious, and plus one of the rules to this poll is that it's fine to utilize whatever you know from either the light novels, manga or animation. Also, why is Yozora not another option? Just cause she's kind of sadistic? Come on now. If you can accept Sena's weird "lick my feet" thing you should at least be able to withstand a little S. |
Oct 25, 2011 3:12 PM
#31
| I'm just throwing this out there now, Kodaka pairing with anyone is fine but, YozoraxSena is the true pairing. I'm pretty sure that's what all Novel readers want, right? lmfao..It's obvious that Sena is a masochist for Yozo..especially since: Sena has pictures of Yozora all over her room and thinks about her 24/7, rofl. But for this poll, YozoraxKodaka - It just feels "right". Plus, Sena can have anyone she wants with those jugs. I wouldn't mind KodakaxRika though...But that's just for my amusement... _______ I also never understood why people always thought Yozora was such a bitch yet don't see anything wrong with Sena making people lick her feet and degrade them for being "Second-rate" just cause "she's rich". Lets not forget having Yozora raped in one of their story role play(or something).. Only conclusion I come to is Yozora's comments seem more harsh cause she's clever and more "diverse" in being a bitch.. |
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Oct 25, 2011 3:51 PM
#32
RealScreamer said: I'm just throwing this out there now, Kodaka pairing with anyone is fine but, YozoraxSena is the true pairing. I'm pretty sure that's what all Novel readers want, right? lmfao..It's obvious that Sena is a masochist for Yozo..especially since: Sena has pictures of Yozora all over her room and thinks about her 24/7, rofl. Lmao, but I'm pretty sure Yozora isn't the type that would be into girls . And if something like that happened the author might be assassinated by the combined forces of KodakaxSena and KodakaxYozora fans. Nonetheless it is an amusing scenario. But it is things like this that make me think Sena might even possibly confess to Yozora one of these chapters. xD Then Yozora would definetly be paired up Kodaka.. and I have no problem with something like that playing out. But at the same time I want Kodaka to choose Yozora not as an alternative. Also.. Sena said that if Kobato was handed to her on a silver platter that she'd violate her.. and she was serious too. xD... Hm.. she's got some Bisexual tendencies don't you think? Plus, Sena can have anyone she wants with those jugs. Also agree with this entirely xD Sena could get anyone after developing her social skills just a bit. Plus, she's filthy rich. Best psychiatry money can buy. *ahem* but perhaps I'm getting too in depth. I also never understood why people always thought Yozora was such a bitch yet don't see anything wrong with Sena making people lick her feet and degrade them for being "Second-rate" just cause "she's rich". Lets not forget having Yozora raped in one of their story role play(or something).. Only conclusion I come to is Yozora's comments seem more harsh cause she's clever and more "diverse" in being a bitch.. Exactly! But that's because Sena fans are too busy looking at her jugs to think to that extent. But just for the sake of correction, Yozora was actually the one who wrote that rape story about Sena xD;; I completely agree with her being more diverse than Sena. |
MonkOnLSDOct 25, 2011 3:57 PM
Oct 25, 2011 4:24 PM
#33
NukeninIzaya said: Lmao, but I'm pretty sure Yozora isn't the type that would be into girls . And if something like that happened the author might be assassinated by the combined forces of KodakaxSena and KodakaxYozora fans. Nonetheless it is an amusing scenario. But it is things like this that make me think Sena might even possibly confess to Yozora one of these chapters. xD Then Yozora would definetly be paired up Kodaka.. and I have no problem with something like that playing out. But at the same time I want Kodaka to choose Yozora not as an alternative. Also.. Sena said that if Kobato was handed to her on a silver platter that she'd violate her.. and she was serious too. xD... Hm.. she's got some Bisexual tendencies don't you think? Yeah, but Yozora is kinda boyish, so i can see a bit of yuri between the two, lol. Well...Who wouldn't violate Kobato? :X I mean, I'm straight to the fullest, but, Kobato's incredibly adorable, and I totally understand Sena with her Kobato obsession, ha. Exactly! But that's because Sena fans are too busy looking at her jugs to think to that extent. But just for the sake of correction, Yozora was actually the one who wrote that rape story about Sena xD;; I completely agree with her being more diverse than Sena. Hmm, I don't know. Despite Sena and Yozora fans always picking sides, I'm very much fans of both, like them equally for different reasons, but side a bit more with Yozora for being hated most of the time....Yes, I remember clearly now that Yozora was the one because I remember dying of laughter, so, yes - correction should be made on my part. But I digress. I don't really see the need to hate either of the two girls - both of them arguing with eachother, calling eachother names and good chemistry is the reason I like this series. If Yozora wasn't harsh as she was, this would be really boring. And if Sena wasn't the way she was, it would be boring..Like I said..Don't see how anyone can hate either for making the show pretty damn funny, for Just being a "bitch" and a "piece of meat". |
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Oct 25, 2011 4:40 PM
#34
But I digress. I don't really see the need to hate either of the two girls - both of them arguing with eachother, calling eachother names and good chemistry is the reason I like this series. If Yozora wasn't harsh as she was, this would be really boring. And if Sena wasn't the way she was, it would be boring..Like I said..Don't see how anyone can hate either for making the show pretty damn funny, for Just being a "bitch" and a "piece of meat". Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't have much againjst sena, I just don't want her to end up with Kodaka. :P Sena and Yozora make an epic comedy routine. Anyway, looks like Yozora is kicking ass in the polls atm. Awesome. n__n * And yes, I would also gladly violate Kaboto. Friggin moe. But, my point was that Sena is a little too female friendly. To the point of me speculating that she may be bisexual. |
MonkOnLSDOct 25, 2011 6:28 PM
Oct 25, 2011 7:36 PM
#35
Oct 25, 2011 7:38 PM
#36
| as of right now i like sozora more but seems like theyre making it kodaka x blondy |
Oct 26, 2011 7:14 PM
#37
| I like Sena but I'm more of a YozoraxKodaka fan ^_^ I like her personality more than Sena's :p YOZORA FTW! |
Oct 26, 2011 11:00 PM
#38
| I like Sena because she somehow has that cute factor in her personality. She's also a hardcore gamer and spends sleepless nights just to play. I can relate. :D Tch. I'm out of words to describe. xD I support SenaXKodaka. But I prefer having Sena all to myself. |
Oct 27, 2011 12:02 AM
#39
| One word describes Yozora's predicament - Tragic. Therefore, rooting for such characters would be my own preference, and that she's in a way the 'life of the party' that is the neighbour's club - whilst unofficially the leader, members do look to her for the final approval whenever an activity comes up. Also in the scope of things, she has the most growth potential possible - as much as a low starting point might actually be a good thing. HOWEVER, if the question to be interpreted strictly as in who would be best for Kodaka, it's a different answer. I would say Kate, of what little we've seen thus far in the novels. Kodaka is, unlike Yozora or Sena, way too conscious of other people's opinions. It's what led to his apparent disappearance 10 years ago in the first instance and that trait has not changed. Kate is the total opposite of him, a carefree character that's the antidote to Kodaka's fettering ways. |
Oct 27, 2011 10:42 AM
#41
| w. Trap guy! |
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Oct 27, 2011 12:59 PM
#42
| Yozora to me is the tragic anti-heroine. I think it's quite obvious that she's in love with Kodaka and has no idea what to do. She is extremely jealous and possessive and tends to bully Sena in an attempt to vent out her frustrations. One possible reason I see for her bitchy behavior would be her not so platonic feelings for kodaka, How long has she been harboring these feelings? and how strong are they? We know Sena likes Kodaka, very much. And I think Sena adores Yozora to the point of obsession, I wouldn't be surprised if Sena confesses her feelings to her instead of Kodaka. ( I also suspect she may be bisexual. ) But anyway.... We know Yozora has had no friends since Kodaka left, and that she is now seriously socially impaired. She sucks at making friends, has had no one to talk to(to the point she created an air friend), and that her personality was actually decent 10 years ago. What would have changed her so much? What made her into an untrusting introvert? Why is she so Cynical? Maybe its because her best friend left her without saying anything 10 years ago? Maybe because she was actually in love with her best friend 10 years ago? How would she feel if she finally had another chance at friendship or whatever and then a blond bombshell hotter than her appears right in front of her and ruins everything? What did she feel when it seemed like Kodaka forgot about her(sora)? How will she get better when the object of her affection is constantly surrounded by beautiful women and is getting closer and closer to some of them? The fact she cut off her hair means she's desperate and she knows she's losing BAD, imo. I think Yozora's feelings for Kodaka run deeper than Sena's, way deeper. This is what I believe will allow her to win Kodaka's heart. I mean look at what Yozora has been through: 10 years later. She reunites with the guy. She now looks completely different, and the guy obviously doesn't recognizes her. Heck, he might not even remember their time together. She was frozen in fear. If he indeed not remember her, then all her memories with him in the past are now worthless. Her only 'BFF' turns out to be not so forever after all. But all these changed in the classroom scene. So she has a plan. What if she can reproduce the condition that led them together 10 years ago? It shouldn't be hard at all. She knows that Kodaka is still as crowd-aversive as before. They can't be fight buddies anymore. But what they can do is, instead of fighting other people together, she can proposes that they can befriend other people together. Hopefully this can recreate the condition that led to their friendship. Then why didn't Yozora just tell Kodaka 'hey we were friends, remember?' I believe this is because Yozora loves Kodaka. It might be that she wants Kodaka to fall in love with her, not because of their past relation, but because of her current girl self. She wants him to fall in love with the now her. The plan would have worked too, if certain people didn't join. Do you honestly expect me to believe that this huge chunk of plot was for shit? To just be tossed away for some piece of meat who happens to have blonde hair, big boobs, blue eyes, plays eroge and is a wannabe S and M tsun? As amazing as that sounds.. .A story as good as Boku wa tomodachi does not deserve such a retardidly shallow ending. Yeah fucking right. Sena has just jumped into the race for Kodaka with her cheap "arranged marriage" card too. I don't mind her presenting a challenge but it would just be complete and utter bullshit for her to win. Also, to get even more in depth and realistic.. Sena is fucking filthy rich. So some guy rejects you. Big. Fucking. Deal. Get over it, your rich.. and whatever social, mental, or emotioal impairments you recieve from that rejection can be easily handled cause you can afford the best psychiatrist in the world. You'll also live a wealthy and sucessful life. And it seems to me that Yozora has trouble with her family. She never ever mentions anything about her family to anybody. Except when she told Kodaka about her mom's "you dont need to make 100 friends" saying when they were kids. Yozora needs Kodaka more than Sena ever will. Maybe I'm just yelling in the dark.. but I KNOW that im hitting close to home. I just can't see why Yozora deserves all the hate. I love Yozora and she definetly doesn't deserve it! Nothing short of Yozora killing Sena for Kodaka will make me stop rooting for her! (Although that would also be pretty nice ending ;D jk jk xD) |
MonkOnLSDOct 28, 2011 10:50 AM
Oct 27, 2011 11:11 PM
#43
| why yozora winning? she hella mean like a bully and she said "dont lump me with those ppl" she sure acts like one. especially after ep 4 i seen a lot of tsundere in different anime and majority of them came out on top of my like list, even if they didnt, i didnt hate them and they were still likable, but yozora the first so far that went on my hate list...... yes sena seem like she very arrogant but she also has a very likable side displayed in ep 3 so even if she a tsundere, its very moderate, something you can deal with but yozora you dont really seem like you can deal with that girl so i dont really care who he ends up with as long as it not yozora but since this is a anime and they were childhood friends its pretty obvious who he gonna end up with so meh |
MidnightKazOct 27, 2011 11:27 PM
Oct 28, 2011 1:53 AM
#44
NukeninIzaya said: Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't have much againjst sena, I just don't want her to end up with Kodaka. :P Sena and Yozora make an epic comedy routine. Anyway, looks like Yozora is kicking ass in the polls atm. Awesome. n__n * And yes, I would also gladly violate Kaboto. Friggin moe. But, my point was that Sena is a little too female friendly. To the point of me speculating that she may be bisexual. Definitely. Oh and yes - I know..It does seem weird how she plays eroge, loves Kobato to a certain extent and is a masochist for Yozora, lol. I wouldn't be surprised... MidnightKaz said: why yozora winning? she hella mean like a bully and she said "dont lump me with those ppl" Yozora's winning because not everyone has the same opinion, lol. So is Sena...I don't think Yozora is a Tsundere...She's labeled as Sadist...Sena is the only tsundere here.. MidnightKaz said: yes sena seem like she very arrogant but she also has a very likable side displayed in ep 3 so even if she a tsundere, its very moderate, something you can deal with but yozora you dont really seem like you can deal with that girl That's because only Sena's good side has been shown, so far. And, Yozora is mostly like that to Sena and Maria due to always wanting to get her way because it's her club and they interfere with her plans..I haven't seen her mean to Kobato, Rika or Kodaka(to the extent of sena/maria comment she makes)... MidnightKaz said: but since this is a anime and they were childhood friends its pretty obvious who he gonna end up with And it's pretty logical....Don't see any reasons he would(or should) end up with any of the girls more than Yozora...other than "nicer than yozora" - which is pretty stupid since Sena isn't the love interest. Yozora's not meant to be nice to her just to get to be with Kodaka. |
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Oct 28, 2011 2:17 AM
#45
NukeninIzaya said: Yozora to me is the tragic anti-heroine. I think it's quite obvious that she's in love with Kodaka and has no idea what to do. She is extremely jealous and possessive and tends to bully Sena in an attempt to vent out her frustrations. One possible reason I see for her bitchy behavior would be her not so platonic feelings for kodaka, How long has she been harboring these feelings? and how strong are they? We know Sena likes Kodaka, very much. And I think Sena adores Yozora to the point of obsession, I wouldn't be surprised if Sena confesses her feelings to her instead of Kodaka. ( I also suspect she may be bisexual. ) But anyway.... We know Yozora has had no friends since Kodaka left, and that she is now seriously socially impaired. She sucks at making friends, has had no one to talk to(to the point she created an air friend), and that her personality was actually decent 10 years ago. What would have changed her so much? What made her into an untrusting introvert? Why is she so Cynical? Maybe its because her best friend left her without saying anything 10 years ago? Maybe because she was actually in love with her best friend 10 years ago? How would she feel if she finally had another chance at friendship or whatever and then a blond bombshell hotter than her appears right in front of her and ruins everything? What did she feel when it seemed like Kodaka forgot about her(sora)? How will she get better when the object of her affection is constantly surrounded by beautiful women and is getting closer and closer to some of them? The fact she cut off her hair means she's desperate and she knows she's losing BAD, imo. I think Yozora's feelings for Kodaka run deeper than Sena's, way deeper. This is what I believe will allow her to win Kodaka's heart. I mean look at what Yozora has been through: 10 years later. She reunites with the guy. She now looks completely different, and the guy obviously doesn't recognizes her. Heck, he might not even remember their time together. She was frozen in fear. If he indeed not remember her, then all her memories with him in the past are now worthless. Her only 'BFF' turns out to be not so forever after all. But all these changed in the classroom scene. So she has a plan. What if she can reproduce the condition that led them together 10 years ago? It shouldn't be hard at all. She knows that Kodaka is still as crowd-aversive as before. They can't be fight buddies anymore. But what they can do is, instead of fighting other people together, she can proposes that they can befriend other people together. Hopefully this can recreate the condition that led to their friendship. Then why didn't Yozora just tell Kodaka 'hey we were friends, remember?' I believe this is because Yozora loves Kodaka. It might be that she wants Kodaka to fall in love with her, not because of their past relation, but because of her current girl self. She wants him to fall in love with the now her. The plan would have worked too, if certain people didn't join. Do you honestly expect me to believe that this huge chunk of plot was for shit? To just be tossed away for some piece of meat who happens to have blonde hair, big boobs, blue eyes, plays eroge and is a wannabe S and M tsun? As amazing as that sounds.. .A story as good as Boku wa tomodachi does not deserve such a retardidly shallow ending. Yeah fucking right. Sena has just jumped into the race for Kodaka with her cheap "arranged marriage" card too. I don't mind her presenting a challenge but it would just be complete and utter bullshit for her to win. Also, to get even more in depth and realistic.. Sena is fucking filthy rich. So some guy rejects you. Big. Fucking. Deal. Get over it, your rich.. and whatever social, mental, or emotioal impairments you recieve from that rejection can be easily handled cause you can afford the best psychiatrist in the world. You'll also live a wealthy and sucessful life. And it seems to me that Yozora has trouble with her family. She never ever mentions anything about her family to anybody. Except when she told Kodaka about her mom's "you dont need to make 100 friends" saying when they were kids. Yozora needs Kodaka more than Sena ever will. Maybe I'm just yelling in the dark.. but I KNOW that im hitting close to home. I just can't see why Yozora deserves all the hate. I love Yozora and she definetly doesn't deserve it! Nothing short of Yozora killing Sena for Kodaka will make me stop rooting for her! (Although that would also be pretty nice ending ;D jk jk xD) Damn, I don't even think the author delves that deep into Yozora like you just did. BTW, some of what your saying hasn't happened yet. Is it in the novels or something? For the most part Yozora seems to have the inside track. Of all the girls, Kodaka's conversations with her seem the most give and take interactions. Sena seems to be "me me me" all the time. Although she does have her charming moments too. Rika just wants to fucked by his hard mecha sword. Yukimura seems more interested in being him rather than being with him. Lolicon nun, umm... no. Siscon, not really getting that vibe either. I don't consider Yozora a bully as much as she's quite manipulative. She has the ability to get you to do what she wants using mostly her wits, not her brawn. |
CirrisOct 28, 2011 2:30 AM
Oct 28, 2011 4:16 AM
#46
Oct 28, 2011 5:46 AM
#47
| I only watch the anime. Yozora Partially because of childhood friend thingy. Even though , I like Sena as a character more than Yozora. Yozora like Kodaka much more than any other characters. I'm sure the anime/novel will eventually go deeper into her character and show her sweet side as well as Kodaka notice her positive points and falls in love with the current Yozora. Since she is suppose to be the main female character. But i'm still worried that Sena will end up with Kodaka since she seems to be the most popular while yozora is the least popular of the harem. Sena is also an important character so there's such possibilities. Sorry for my bad english and my weird explanation. |
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Oct 28, 2011 9:12 AM
#48
| Yozora's Is a bitch, I'm hoping people won't like her as much as the series goes along. There Is a lot of people who like Sena better. I mean I could prove it through a lot of ways....... |
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Oct 28, 2011 10:58 AM
#49
GodlyKyon said: Yozora's Is a bitch, I'm hoping people won't like her as much as the series goes along. There Is a lot of people who like Sena better. I mean I could prove it through a lot of ways....... Go ahead. Just make sure you know what you're talking about and look out for spoilers if you don't want'em. Damn, I don't even think the author delves that deep into Yozora like you just did. BTW, some of what your saying hasn't happened yet. Is it in the novels or something? For the most part Yozora seems to have the inside track. Of all the girls, Kodaka's conversations with her seem the most give and take interactions. Sena seems to be "me me me" all the time. Although she does have her charming moments too. Rika just wants to fucked by his hard mecha sword. Yukimura seems more interested in being him rather than being with him. Lolicon nun, umm... no. Siscon, not really getting that vibe either. I don't consider Yozora a bully as much as she's quite manipulative. She has the ability to get you to do what she wants using mostly her wits, not her brawn. Thank you! I just hope the author understands Yozora to this extent. He most likely does, and that is why I think Yozora will end up with Kodaka. It would be foolish to throw all of that information down the toilet just for some blonde bombshell. I'm glad you took the time to read it. Yes, all of that has happened in the novel. Specifically in volumes 3-6. I'm sorry for not putting spoiler format.. i wrote so much I forgot to add that in. You also seem to have of a good understanding of the characters. Sena is definetly "me me me" all the time. That was spot on. |
MonkOnLSDOct 28, 2011 11:03 AM
Oct 28, 2011 11:42 AM
#50
NukeninIzaya said: enjoyed reading your response however here is mines shortly:I just can't see why Yozora deserves all the hate. I love Yozora and she definetly doesn't deserve it! Nothing short of Yozora killing Sena for Kodaka will make me stop rooting for her! (Although that would also be pretty nice ending ;D jk jk xD) Yozora has an attitude problem. Hitting Maria as of last episode was utterly BS! I would never anything that looks like a child. I don't accept Yozora due that kind of attitude. She will beat the living shit out of you for something while Sena will gently not from her attitude. Not as impulsive as Yozora would be. I am rooting though in thee end for Maria. She is just one of those that has the Turner Syndrome notion and just looks like child for her age and all. |
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