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| A bit late to the party but finally gave this a go heh, premise looks interesting and there's a lot of familiar voices. That was indeed kinda funny how they were circling Kirei. The worms came kinda out of nowhere what the hell, poor girl, I'm surprised Kariya didn't beat the hell out of that bastard. |
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| Pretty cordial pilot... |
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| I didn't notice this first eps is 48 min long until i reach 31 min lolol It's kinda confusing at first, I only understood the basic gist of it, and the character names and faces and relationships will take some time for me to remember. Seems interesting so far. I don't know the other characters well enough so the only characters I'm actually invested in is the tortured girl, white-haired man, and the kid who stole his poor teacher's spot lol (im guessing he's gonna suffer a lot in the upcoming Holy Grail). Hope the sickening old bastard dies soon. |
| Setting up the stage... felt bad for Sakura |
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| Never have I ever seen an entire first episode of exposition like this and especially not a double length special. Although this isn’t criticism, I did have a good time watching. We spent the episode setting up rules, getting to know servants and understanding their connections so I suppose I’ll try to go over what I picked up on, as overwhelming as it seemed. We were initially taught by Tohsaka Tokiomi that there were two other major families to worry about. Including his they are the Tohsaka, the Matous, and the Einzberg. The original war that started all this appeared to turn into conflict between Tohsaka, Einzberg and “Makiri”, a family not mentioned in this episode and one that may have been replaced by Matous in prominence. This somehow created a war that happens every sixty years where this Holy Grail which can grant any wish chooses 7 masters and these masters, which are necessarily mages when the war starts, take control over great heroes of the past and thus fight for the wish. This itself creates some questions such as why these heroes will fight as servants, be it if it’s necessary for them or if they have something to gain here. Beyond that, it creates a stacked load of characters, all of which we only got to really know 6 major masters. We started with Emiya Kiritsugu who was adopted into the formerly pure Einzberg family which lost the first war due to their focus on alchemy. Not only is he an unusual part of Einzberg but he also had a child with Iri. We started with him unable to even look at his daughter as he feels guilt over feeling that he’s inevitably brought death to Iri and she didn’t deny such, rather she stated our first look into a defining feature of Emiya Kiritsugu. She is okay with this because of his “ideal”, that is “a world where no one has to cry the way you are now”. She has bought this ideal so much that she even suggested the king of knights would be convinced by it too. From here he seems all good, but as Iri also suggested, he’s already been fighting. His background is mysterious, he has a reputation of a mercenary and an assassin with the title “Mage Slayer”. He allegedly kills mages shamelessly and even bombs them or takes down planes. With Kotomine Kirei’s thoughts on him we also saw that he traveled the world into dangerous warzones at their peak danger for years until he stopped with Iri. That was the fighting he was already doing I presume. Later he suggests that the servant is a mere tool and it made me think he may be able to justify all of his alleged actions with that reasoning, that they are necessary. The line about how he was crying in the beginning from Iri goes to suggest he’s doing what he thinks he has to do, maybe he’d even unwish any of the cruelty he caused. But what’s clear is that he seems tortured, he is a killer, and he has a strong ideal motivating his action. Later the elder said “complete the Third Magic, Heaven's Feel". Tohsaka Tokiomi can be appropriately explored with Kotomine Kirei. On the surface He and Kirei should be enemies, but with a secret allegiance between Tohsaka Tokiomi and the church they supposedly have the same intention for the wish, that is “to reach the source”. However, the Tohsaka family gave a daughter to the Matous family while he also voices that, to not stop the others, would be irresponsible. And further, evil goatee man sipping wine in the shadows makes me think Tohsaka is no doubt a 'secret' bad guy. Yet Kirei may not be so loyal, despite his father bringing him here and suggesting he’d jump into an inferno for the church, his records show a lack of convictions and confusion in his past as if he had no idea of self interest yet wasn’t always working for his father. Further, him leaving in the beginning started a conversation about how he was grieving the recent loss of his wife making it obvious to us that we should be curious about his past, and that he may wish her back alive. He also appeared to have already summoned the assassin Hassan, a master strategist who can see any tricks. A good jumping point is the Tohsaka daughter that was given to Matous and their role in this. To continue this theme of bad guys probably manipulating their pawns like Tohsaka and possibly the church, we have one of the kindest contestants introduced. Matou Kariya is a Matou who denounced the life yet stayed in contact with his sister who married into Tohsaka. He loves his nieces Rin and Sakura and brings them gifts. Upon getting news of Sakura being breeded by worms to force her to fight for the incredibly evil Matou Zouken's immortality, he takes her place. The cute lad’s hair goes white, he loses color in an eye, he has a month to live, and he has worms in his body. He’s willing to die without question for his niece Sakura. The fact that he’s doing this rather than fighting against his family for Sakura is a reminder of their power, it’s probably useless. This does create the unfortunate reality that, if the idea that there are no survivors is accurate, the girls will lose a father or an uncle. The scene where he spoke to Sakura and told her that they could meet up with her family no longer referring to them as such made me tear up. The next two that are easy to talk about together are Kayneth El-Melloi Archibald and Waver. Archibald is a 6th generation mage who is quite pompous and prejudiced, setting up a typical shounen power gap to jump. His whole character this episode was calling out Waver’s idea that skill matters more than blood which he shut down quickly and publicly. He sent Waver out angrily and someone gave him the relic that’s needed to summon a servant(possibly planned) and we got a huge exposition scene of him researching this secret Holy Grail war. He’s a confident little guy and he’s eager to show the world that blood doesn’t matter thus he steals the relic and flies off with it. The manipulated grandparents scene made me laugh so hard, I thought it was all real until he knocked them out and sacrificed their chickens. He’s naive, overconfident, eager, and a little bastard, I like him and the adorable contrast with his servant. Almost no one felt that heroic. Tohsaka selling his daughter off, Kirei and Kiritsugu with pasts of murder, to be fair Archibald may just be prejudiced but not actually awful, and Waver has already shown he’s a total brat, brainwashing people for his benefit when it was not likely necessary. Kariya is the only guy who was painted as wholly good here. That is excluding the mystery psychopath we could see in the opening and possible serial killer. I do assume Archibald is a contestant given his opening appearance, just with another servant. Overall it made for a nice conclusion of summoning servants and I can understand why this series is so popular. Death games are an incredibly easy concept to make engaging with high stakes, but to spend this much time on every party gives it another layer. One that is normally lacking. |
| the first episode wasn't very good imo. it already starts out with a lot of info dump and too many characters were introduced in a short span of time. but i'll stay optimistic, because it will probably get better. also, it kind of bothers me how much kirei and kiritsugu look alike. Even their names are similar. I'm probably gonna confuse them with each other a lot. |
dusty22Jan 16, 2020 10:46 AM
| Holy crap. What the flying fuck is going on?! They do not ease you into this series at all, do they? I have never seen nor read anything to do with the fate franchise and I was told that I should start with Fate/Zero - but maybe that was bad advice? There were so many names and almost all of them seem to begin with a 'K', so many dark-haired men that look almost exactly the same! I had to go on Wikipedia just to work out what on earth was happening. Way too much information in one go. Perhaps I'm just dumb as fuck. On the positive side of things, it's an interesting set up and the animation is absolutely stunning - it's so crisp. It's not exactly my type of show but it's pretty popular/well-liked that I thought I'd give it a go. I'll keep going with it but I have a feeling this series is going to be exhausting. |
  🔥 🔥 🔥 . 阿良々木 暦, 傷 物 語 . 🔥 🔥 🔥 Build a man a fire and you'll warm him for a night but set a man on fire and you'll warm him for the rest of his life... - H E N D Y - |
| Information overload. |
| damn... the build up thou... had me download Fate/GO |
| what happened to the baby?.... |
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| Very strong first episode. I like the tone and atmosphere of the series. I'm also interested in which way the worms are helping Kirei, he looks really pitful. Interesting that Arthur in this series is female. |
| I feel sorry for Kariya, and it have only seen the first episode TT |
BOŽE ČUVAJ HRVATSKU |
| Interested in more but I also have no idea what the hell is going on Theres 7 masters and servants and they have to fight to the death for the Grail, which can grant any wish ... is what ive picked up so far |
| the interactions of Kariya and Zouken are just so epic |
| For now, I'll only watch F/Z & S2 as a standalone series but I'll probably change my mind soon enuff. If I do decide to get in F/SN or UBW in the future, spoilers won't be an issue since people online have spoiled soooo many other series for me ALREADY :P But that was a pretty interesting info-dump to say the least. The whole premise with the Holy Grail War and the 7 mages competing vaguely reminded me about the Goblet of Fire for some reason, but it was cool cool to meet the 5 competitors and their different motivations. And oooo don't get me started on the ANIMATION: gotta hand it to ufotable they NEVER disappoint Expecting the next few eps to be a slow burner like this one but I'm excited for the big ass climax thats about to come in S2 :o 8/10 |
| Decent introductory episode, this. A lot of info about the masters and the procedure of the Holy Grail provided, which is good. Having already watched Fate/stay night, UBW & HF, it's nice to finally see Emiya-san's past in particular. Sakura's scene with worms though. Holy fudge, that was disturbing! Clearly living in and for the past, are the Tohsaka and Matou families. It's nice to hear LiSA in Fate context again! |
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| 8 years ago. Kiritsugu. A child is born. Ilyasviel. 3 years ago. SHOW!!!!! Kotomine Kirei. The Holy Grail War. Perform miracles? Tokhsaka Tokiomi. Kirei's wife passed away a few days ago. 1 year ago. I decided to rewatch FZ for its 10th anniversary on October 2nd (Japan has this thing where 0:00 AM is not the next day yet and I'm behind them so its 11:00 AM on October 1st for me when FZ aired) and I hate that I planned this for a month only to fall asleep on the anniversary day until today. Anyway, what a start! I still remember10 years ago that the news said 1st episode was going to be 1 hour due to so much stuff and I previewed it to see why before I came back and binged it when it was near complete in 2012. I'm seeing things differently than I did all those years ago. For example, Kariya didn't look cool to me before, but now he looks so cool. F Zouken. Got Kariya looking old and his whole body is messed up. LiSA slayed the ED song... as expected due to her previous songs before Fate. ufo delivered and the music is perfect. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
| already hf makes 2x more sense now smh i rly shoulda watched dis 1st 2011 lisa kinda mid tho 🗿 |
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| Why the hell did I start such a complicated series. LMAO. Well, can't go back now. The first half was so slow and boring, I'm sorry but that is what it is but the second half got good really fast. The summoning of the Servants was hype AF. |
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| It's not a good idea to start a show off with a 50 min mega exposition dump since it's a huge turn off to new viewers, tbh I wouldn't understand what's even going on if I hadn't already watched this once and the sequels before. 3/5, and this is generous |
| it kind of bothers me how much kirei and kiritsugu look alike. Even their names are similar so many dark-haired men that look almost exactly the same |
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| yeah, i've seen some anime where an episode just seems to drag for 24 minutes and some where it's over in the blink of an eye, so i paused it halfway like wth am i going crazy and then i saw 45 minutes and i was thinking that is just a shit load of exposition for a first episode. |
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| Heck yeah, time to re-watch FATE ZERO, one of my first anime now that I remember, since it is one of the ones that caught my eye on netflix, which is where I started watching anime. I was expecting and hoping for lots of fights, and then came out of it disappointed since most of it was just talk. But now, several years later, (probably somewhere in the ballpark of FIVE years, holy sh*t), I still haven't really delved into this universe other than watching ufotable's other works which are unlimited bladeworks and heaven's feel. And yet I realize now that this first episode is hype asf. I want these characters to clash with all their different personalities and ideals, the actual physical fights will just be a bonus for me at this point. Looking forward to experiencing it again, and most likely appreciating it far more this time around. |
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| About time I started Fate!!! It's Ufotable, so I'm not surprised on seeing how good the animation is. The story's a bit complex yet really interesting at the same time!! I kinda got the gist of the whole thing. Looking forward to see how the show goes from here!!! (On June 18th, 2023 I began watching Fate) |
| What an actual greatly nice introduction this over 30 mins episode is! Kiritsugu seems interesting enough with his goal + he do be have a gorgeous wife as well and so i'm looking forward to the other masters and the rest of the fate franchise which is prob going to take me a while to get into. |
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| Damn history of Illya here |
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| Slept on this masterpiece for so long, and I'm glad I watched the Stay Night saga before getting into Zero. Also seeing the comments on a 12 year old series is pretty wild. |
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