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08-04-11, 2:18 PM

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Rin is so mature, she just makes my heart melt. <3
 
08-04-11, 2:26 PM

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This show keeps getting better and better..=)

While i think the motives of Masako are kind of upsetting, i don't blame her completely. I think that, in a way, she still cares about Rin and did what she thought i was the best for her. I am really curious to know more about Masako (and the "boyfriend").

About the adoption, i think it will happen in the future (probably in a very emotional way, as MorisatoK said..i.i). I really liked the way Rin showed that she is happy about who she and Daikichi are, and i admire the way that Daikichi always asks and respect the opinions of Rin. =)
 
08-04-11, 2:35 PM

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So here I am practicing my piano arrangement of High, High, High so I can record it for youtube. Then I take a break and watch the newest ep of Usagi Drop, and what do I hear in the cafe scene... A piano arrangement of High High High! D'oh.

It's a much for lounge style though, which is probably a lot easier to play than my version which is more of a transcription of the ending theme at full tempo.

BTW, my version is available at my blog or on youtube. http://robusab.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-arrangement-high-high-high-usagi.html is the easiest way. ^^
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08-04-11, 2:45 PM

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This show is so damn good
 
08-04-11, 2:53 PM

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how old is thaT mother, rly and i still cant understand why she'd bang an old guy then now have a young bf
 
08-04-11, 2:56 PM

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I didn't really like the "just Daikichi scene." It seemed very unrealistic and fell flat. Daikichi, against all odds, works up the courage to adopt rin and then also works up the courage to ask her about it, but she just shoots him down with a lame line that should have been hurtful. It would be the same situation as if he confessed his love for that attractive mother, but she said she wanted to stay friends that "Daikichi should just stay Daikichi."

Daikichi is focusing his entire life around Rin and being her father in all but name, but she still wants to think of him as "some relative of my real father."

Agree completly with your post and felt the same way about this scene in particular. It was supposed to convey warmth when it actually hit me pretty cold, of course considering it's a child's straight answer. So at first I thought he was crying out of disappointment. Yet I like Rin's determined response and I don't think she loves him any less then a real father.

Concerning her mother, the way this anime was until now I doubt it's as shallow as it seems and there's probably more to it. I wouldn't be supprised if this turns out completly different.
But I couldn't help to think about her wanting the child back at some point. She's the biological mother after all and by law Daikichi has no grounds here. If I were in his shoes that's the first thing I would've cleared up and adopted her even with a different name. BTW that talk about women giving up her name anyway is so typical for the conservative Japanese.

Overall I'd say the best episode for now.
 
08-04-11, 4:03 PM

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Rin is too adorable! Why would you abandon a child like that? Rin's Mom is lucky enough not to have a daughter like Reina >.> she just annoys the hell out of me.
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08-04-11, 4:14 PM

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I LOVED THAT EPISODE. Its was so touching and cute. I can't wait to see where this series goes. TT~TT 5/5
 
08-04-11, 4:28 PM

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Best episode so far, that was soooo cute.. and that last bit was halarious.
"Am I raising Rin or is Rin raising me?" That gave me a laugh
 
08-04-11, 4:31 PM

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how old is thaT mother, rly and i still cant understand why she'd bang an old guy then now have a young bf


She doesn't seem very detail oriented enough to be bothered by things like wrinkles and such. Remember she called Daikchi by the name Souichi so what she saw in Souichi is problably not related to his age. Also is that her boyfriend, brother, cousin, friend, or manga employee? If he is related to her then that would explain Rin's hair color, maybe. Would anyone that has read the manga care to do a spoiler tag to tell us who that guy is.

Personally I rather think of Masako as an adult child who isn't ready for the responsibility of raising a child alone instead of a despicable human-being but if that guy is Rin's father then that means they both abandoned the Rin and that looks worse.
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08-04-11, 4:54 PM

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Gosh, Rin is so cute! Just the littlest things that she says goes straight to my heart <3
 
08-04-11, 5:04 PM

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Seriously, the whole things about about the surname change made me want to yell out a spoiler in a crowded theatre.

MAJOR SPOILER...


Damn this show is just tugging at the heartstrings. The scenes after Daikichi's day trip to meet the mother were full of all sorts of win.

Masako seems like a crackhead or something. I don't loathe her. I just get the feeling she flipped out when she became pregnant. It's obvious that her spacey personality coupled with with some obsessive compulsive characteristics leads me to believe she's got mental issues and Daikichi is right in his decisions to keep Rin.
 
08-04-11, 5:27 PM

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Seriously, the whole things about about the surname change made me want to yell out a spoiler in a crowded theatre.

MAJOR SPOILER...
Well your spoiler is certainly interesting to see how it will be presented in this anime but I do hope there is 0 blood relation with Daikichi's family if I am to comfortable with your spoiler.

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08-04-11, 5:34 PM

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Rin's mom needs to be slapped silly. Parental abandonment is terrible especially for the mother.


See, this right here is what I was expecting and what I knew would annoy me most. “Especially for the MOTHER”

Men leave families all the time but the instant a woman leaves her children she is demonized, never mind her situation. I'm not saying it's a good thing for a family to be split up like that either way, but people here are just being unfair.

Why is it worse if the mother leaves? Because she gave birth to the child? I don't see how it matters. Or are we going down that dreadfully sexist route of "Because women are supposed to look after babies."

There are many reasons why a woman might leave her children, just the same as if a man left. Some of them could be doing it for purely terrible reasons but not all.

Masako had her reasons, you may not like them, but I understand them. There are also a few large points to draw attention to.

From what I've got so far she still seems a bit immature, perhaps not the best at making important decisions. She works for Rin's father and somehow ends up pregnant. Now here is the first point. Grandpa wanted her to have the baby. It was not her decision. He convinced her to keep Rin.

Masako looks at her situation. She's a mangaka (unless I'm mistaken?) a job with a shoddy wage and terrible hours. She knows she wouldn't be able to keep her work up and handle a child but she tried anyway. She tried to take care of Rin. I admit that she didn’t do a good job of it but she gave it a go. She could have run off as soon as Rin was born, said she didn’t want anything to do with her, but she didn’t. You also have to add the circumstances of Rin’s father. Masako must have known what things looked like, if grandpa was the father of her child. People would automatically label her as scum anyway, I bet, as soon as they found out. Grandpa’s naïve dream of them all being a family makes him out to be the unreliable one, not her. The world just doesn’t work like a fairy tale.

She does care for Rin. She has a funny way of showing it but she agreed to meet Daikichi didn’t she? If she didn’t care at all she could have told him to get lost. Instead she meets him and asks for things that she hopes will make life easier for Rin. She even admitted she found it hard to tell herself Rin wasn’t her daughter.

So she decides it’s better not to be there. Of course she could have handled it better, but the whole thing doesn’t make her into the evil person everyone else here is trying to paint her as.
 
08-04-11, 5:34 PM

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Uh, I'm not sure why people are getting annoyed about the "Daikichi should be Daikichi" scene. I thought it was perfectly fine and understandable. I've worked with kids quite a bit in the past, and kids -- along with adults -- don't like change. They like to stick to what they like at the moment, including Rin and her surname. Of course she wouldn't want to change it; what would happen, then, with all the time she had spent with her real father? She told Daikichi to be Daikichi because he doesn't have to try so hard to be the ideal fatherly figure, and that what he's doing is perfectly fine. He'll never be her real father, and doesn't have to pretend to be. She takes the current situation as is.

I also liked the way they presented Masako. Her reactions seemed so realistic for someone who's been through so much, but doesn't want to share it with the world. When she was sitting and eating at the cafe, she seemed restrained, awkward, almost quiet. I'm sure we've just scratched the surface of her character, and there's more about her to come. We still don't know what she thinks of Rin, what she thinks of herself (other than the fact that she's useless, but that only reinforces the fact that she has self-esteem issues), and why she agreed to having Rin. It's deeper than it looks, guys. If she really was as immature as she looked, she'd try to raise Rin on her measly wage and shitty lifestyle. No one would have been happy if she had kept Rin.

Good episode.
 
08-04-11, 6:14 PM

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Rin Mother :@ air headed

Rin was cute when she said you just stay as daikichi. though i hope she won't get bullied in school. though still i want her to adopt daikchi surname.

I will be glad if daikichi get together with that other boys mother. they really match each other and she's also alone. but i don't think that's going to happen.

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mystik said:
what a useless mother.
Useless? How about pathetic and foolish. I was so RAGE @ the mother! Rage @ unlimited times. I kind of fake slapped the screen once I saw the screen. I said I would do that and I did. That mother should not deserve Rin at all. RAGE at the mother.

The mother reminds me of the mother from this series:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/102/Aishiteruze_Baby
if anyone knows it then you know what I mean. Seriously though, the mother from Aishiteruze Baby at least I accepted her reason but I cannot accept the reason from Masako. Just c-a-n-n-o-t and that's all.

You said it all.
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08-04-11, 6:31 PM

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Seriously, the whole things about about the surname change made me want to yell out a spoiler in a crowded theatre.

MAJOR SPOILER...


That ruined my day. :D Had to check it first in the manga discussion as it seemed quite unbelievable. I should learn not to open spoilers in future.
 
08-04-11, 6:40 PM

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I SWEAR THIS ANIME IS THE CUTEST THING IN THE WORLD. I love it sooooo much :) I wonder who that guy at the end was :O the boyfriend of Rin's mom?!
I can't wait till next weeeeeek!
 
08-04-11, 7:06 PM

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I tried to hate Rin's mother. Not working. Not that I like her, but I don't hate her either. It's just that...I just can't. There's something about this anime that makes me unable to hate even one of the characters.

I'm starting to think that Rin is getting too mature though for a six years old kid though
 
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08-04-11, 8:09 PM

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I'm so mad @ the mother I don't even wanna watch anymore...

Such an unpleasant character.
 
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08-04-11, 8:14 PM

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I had a feeling that Daikichi would mention about adopting Rin.
 
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08-04-11, 8:18 PM

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LOL everyone hates Rin's mother XD figures i didn't quite like her but it ain't hate (not yet at least) i'm sure we gonna find out her motives (i hope so at least)
 
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08-04-11, 8:40 PM

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This is so damn good. I hope someone licenses it.

I spoiled myself by reading the last chapter of the manga, but I don't know how it got to that point so I'm hoping for something good and interesting, like the "Grandpa isn't Rin's biological dad" kind of thing.
I'm quite intrigued at how people will react to the ending.
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08-04-11, 8:41 PM

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Terrific episode. The mother's a failure of a parent, though it's obvious she cares for Rin. Rin's response to Daikichi's question was not cold or insulting and shouldn't be taken that way.
 
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08-04-11, 8:49 PM

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Yay! I resisted the urge to click the spoiler after seeing how it ruined someone's day ;p

Seriously, this episode made me all warm and fuzzy inside!
Ero-Sennin got nothing on me.

 
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08-04-11, 8:55 PM

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Omg, she's a magaka! (Bakuman fan in me coming out haha)
Amazing episode as usual, gotta love this show!
Yeah, I think Rin would be better off with Daikichi the way her mom was (very out of it, not taking her opinion, etc.)

RobUsaB said:
So here I am practicing my piano arrangement of High, High, High so I can record it for youtube. Then I take a break and watch the newest ep of Usagi Drop, and what do I hear in the cafe scene... A piano arrangement of High High High! D'oh.

It's a much for lounge style though, which is probably a lot easier to play than my version which is more of a transcription of the ending theme at full tempo.

BTW, my version is available at my blog or on youtube. http://robusab.blogspot.com/2011/07/new-arrangement-high-high-high-usagi.html is the easiest way. ^^

Sounds awesome!
 
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08-04-11, 9:36 PM

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NHKNegative said:
"Daikichi should just stay Daikichi."

;_;


Rin: I'll hold you too, next time you cry Daikichi.

; __ ;

yes yes!!!!!!! T-T Rin is just adorable!!
 
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08-04-11, 11:39 PM

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I'm kind of conflicted about Masako's decision but I can definitely understand where she's coming from. Of course the right decision would have been to not have the baby or give it up for adoption...
She obviously cares about Rin and made this decision with the hope that she'd have a stable parental figure in her life, which she did get. Rin probably would have turned out fine if Masako had kept her since she's incredibly independent to begin with, but Masako not being motherly or wanting a child put the nail in the coffin.
 
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08-05-11, 12:12 AM

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What a bitch. On the other hand Rin was as cute as always.
 
08-05-11, 1:11 AM

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This is so damn good. I hope someone licenses it.

I spoiled myself by reading the last chapter of the manga, but I don't know how it got to that point so I'm hoping for something good and interesting, like the "Grandpa isn't Rin's biological dad" kind of thing.
I'm quite intrigued at how people will react to the ending.


Well what you read was after the time skip correct, cause you said ending of the manga. Most likely they will cut this show off before the time skip. Seeing as there is only one voice for Rin plus it's only 11 episodes. My hope is that they don't do the time skip, it would ruin such a good show.
 
08-05-11, 1:23 AM

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Garfield4th said:
djfmurphy said:

My hope is that they don't do the time skip, it would ruin such a good show.


This. The time skip completely changes what we love about Usagi Drop. Everyone should savor the moments now.lol
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08-05-11, 1:46 AM

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Daikichi is the father I wish I had.

Masako is like the mother I had and wished I hadn't..

 
08-05-11, 1:55 AM

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I personally think Rin's reply was actually the best answer Daikichi could possibly have gotten. On the surface level she certainly has rejected the offer he made purely out of concern for her, and it seemingly places his grandfather above him in her eyes, but that's because she does see it that way; to Rin, regardless of whether they truly are connected by blood, Daikichi's grandpa is Rin's father, and she loves him as such. That doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't like Daikichi, and she shows that through her affectionate responses to him, but at the same time, there's just not enough space in a six-year-old's heart or time spent between them for her to accept him as a surrogate father... yet!

The answer also does Daikichi a whole lot more good than you might think. Consider once more the exchange between Masako and Daikichi: before they part, Daikichi tells her that Rin's opinion is important, and that both he and Rin will decide together. What really bothered Daikichi about asking Rin to become his adoptive daughter wasn't so much the question itself or whatever conclusion it will bring (Daikichi has guts! Remember episode 1?), but that she may have answered without understanding or expressing her own opinion on the matter. By confidently and strongly giving him the "NO", she's actually unknowingly affirming his beliefs in the way he's raising her. Note how he doesn't actually tear up until she tells him to be as he is.

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Oh god, I just love how all the parents bring along proper cameras, but Daikichi busts out his phone.
 
08-05-11, 2:09 AM

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This show is just the sweetest thing - and to think I only picked it up because I thought the art was nice... <3
Wonder who the guy who was with Rin's mother is? - would make some sense if he was Rin's father as someone suggested, because of the haircolor... althou, then why would she dump her kid with the old man she was working for? and why the heck would he accept it as his? I don't get it...maybe we're just reading too much into it:P gimme next episode, laik nau!!! :D:D
 
08-05-11, 2:12 AM

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TanukiBoi said:
NHKNegative said:
"Daikichi should just stay Daikichi."
;_;

Rin: I'll hold you too, next time you cry Daikichi.
; __ ;


I don't quite understand the emotional response of that scene, I mean the reason for the tear is puzzling to me.

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I tried to hate Rin's mother. Not working. Not that I like her, but I don't hate her either. It's just that...I just can't. There's something about this anime that makes me unable to hate even one of the characters.

I'm starting to think that Rin is getting too mature though for a six years old kid though

I can agree with you, although I didn't try to hate the mother I can understand the latter part.

And hm I was thinking the same thing about Rin heh.

But man, Rin sure is cute and funny, like the bath scene, that was great when she was singing. And I love the scenes where Daikichi wonders/questions the role reversals heh, puurrty funny.
 
08-05-11, 2:25 AM

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Rin's mum is slightly more likeable in the anime than the source manga, more obvious that she's distancing herself because she feels helpless and not just because of work.

Other than that the last scene, omg cutest moment of the year so far.
 
08-05-11, 2:29 AM

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loved the scene after ed...
 
08-05-11, 4:07 AM

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Nice episode. Funny that Daikichi said that he doesn't know anymore whether he is raising Rin or reversed.
 
08-05-11, 4:12 AM

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Sweating in March...
Lol, nice comeback Rin

But seriously, that episode was semi-boss, mainly because of the mother. What a kid, abandoning your kid.

Other than that, great episode.
 
08-05-11, 4:33 AM

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Rin is kawaii. This ep was so adorable, really. To bad it's only 11 eps :(



 
08-05-11, 5:09 AM

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Rin's mum is slightly more likeable in the anime than the source manga, more obvious that she's distancing herself because she feels helpless and not just because of work.

I can definitely agree with that. i recall myself raging after reading that part in the manga. My reaction after watching that in the anime was so much more subdued that it gave me pause.
 
08-05-11, 5:42 AM

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I hate Rin's mother. I hated her since her first appearance in the manga and I still hate her now.
Not for the fact that she abandoned Rin. (Actually I still despise her for it) But for the fact that she acts like she has nothing to do with her. She doesn't even seem to care that much. ugh, this episode kinda hit close to home.
For some reason she seems more sympathetic in the anime. I wonder why?
I'm probably going to re-read the manga after the anime.

TanukiBoi said:
NHKNegative said:
"Daikichi should just stay Daikichi."

;_;


Rin: I'll hold you too, next time you cry Daikichi.

; __ ;

My heart strings were pulled so tightly ( ; ^ ; )
 
08-05-11, 6:22 AM

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I'm happy that both of them are coming closer together. Cannot wait until next episode release.
 
08-05-11, 7:27 AM

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I'm skeptical that Rin is Daikichi's granpa's daughter. Correct me if I remember incorrectly but granpa didn't specifically admitted Rin is his daughter. Neither did Masako said that Rin was his. Daikiichi didn't confirm this fact. May be there's a great misunderstanding in all of these and that granpa just took Rin as his own. Assumption is the mother of all f*ckups (that includes me assuming there's a great misunderstanding here).

I'm not trying to defend Masako but just looking at it at a point that it could have been worse for Rin. Sure she's really a failure, but not that epic. She admits she's a failure of a mother and immature in my opinion. She did tried to take care of Rin however (proof is in the health card). But some people just really care for themselves more than others, even their children. What could be worse for a child being abandoned by their failure of a mother? How about being abused. Physically, emotionally and/or psychologically. Knowing she couldn't take proper care of Rin is a big factor for Rin's future. Rin will have a better childhood if she didn't stay with her and she knows it, but it's a gamble since she's not familiar with granpa's family. But that doesn't excuse her or can it be used to justify her irresponsibility. I'm hoping that in this story, she'd come to her senses...But that would be a new ordeal for Rin.
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The time when the children waving their goodbyes in the nursery and Daikichi held hands with Rin was such a soothing moment.

I don't know what to think about Rin's mother for leaving Rin with such a weird personality but she's pretty hot.

"Am I raising Rin or is she raising me?" Excellent question Daikichi!! :D
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08-05-11, 9:01 AM

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I feel like I just graduated from nursery school too. Did he really cry when she told him he needs to remain as himself only?
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08-05-11, 9:13 AM

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Yumekichi11 said:
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what a useless mother.
Useless? How about pathetic and foolish. I was so RAGE @ the mother! Rage @ unlimited times. I kind of fake slapped the screen once I saw the screen. I said I would do that and I did. That mother should not deserve Rin at all. RAGE at the mother.


Yeah, I was getting mad at how airheaded she was while talking to Daikichi that I wanted to slap her myself. I mean really, we're talking about her daughter, and it was like TRIED to to be just a bit more worrisome but epicly failed.

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I don't really blame her biological mother. Her life did not allow her to raise a child. When she got pregnant, her options were to either have an abortion or have the baby and leave it with someone who can take care of it. She did the later, causing Rin to be born and be successfully taken care of. Rin also never even knew she was her mother. This is a completely different situation than the previously mentioned Aishiteruze Baby.


Which is funny because Daikichi himself sacrificed a good job for a mediocre one just so he can raise Rin. Rin's mother even considered abortion if it wasn't for Daikichi's grandfather's support. She should have at least taken more responsibility for her actions.


The end though, my heart skipped a bit; it was so heartwarming.
 
08-05-11, 9:20 AM

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This show can easily become a 10 for me. I love it so much. ;~;
 
08-05-11, 10:09 AM

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Wow.. the mother... she's just... so odd. a lot different than I anticipated.

But yeah I'm starting to think g-pa wasn't the real dad... but that boyfriend w/ the blonde hair was.
 
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Cirris said:
Seriously, the whole things about about the surname change made me want to yell out a spoiler in a crowded theatre.

MAJOR SPOILER...


Pfffffft, fukken knew it.

A nice episode anyways~<3
 
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