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| My short review: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1408491&show=0#msg52875605 |
"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai |
| Hey! That'(wa)s pretty good! It looks better and it expands the themes and message of the series, the soundtrack is better, the two duels here are actually engaging, unlike the TV show. It tries to experiment even more than the main series... which results in this movie being a complete mess for many, but that isn't a problem for me. However, it tries to put as many content as it can in a ninety minutes long film, and that's something that one can notice very easily. It's also missing some of the series' themes (albeit not as important as the ones shown in the movie) so it has less substance that the TV series. And they changed Akio's voice, so he doesn't sound like a sex god anymore But anyways, if you more or less understood the TV show and its symbols, you're pretty much ready to go and I can assure that, if that's the case, you'll have a pleasant experience. 8/10 |
| Around the gif~ "It's a big mistake to think you're the only one who can turn into a car" - Shiori Takatsuki |
Toa_of_Gallifrey said: Shiori explodes, that's all I needed outta this. This (she has the best duel theme tho) |
| I... was honestly speechless for most of this movie. Dat car part just smacked me hard without even buying dinner first... But, dear goodness, does Akio's movie voice suck. The dude doesn't seem to know how to change the pitch of his voice or something. Rex_Ivan said: In the last episode of the series, Utena awakens Anthy's true self and then "vanishes", leaving Anthy behind. Anthy then takes it upon herself to leave the academy, shrugging off her powerless brother, and going on a search for Utena. I think the movie is where Anthy finds Utena. I think after the events of the last episode, Utena became trapped in a similar prison as Anthy had been throughout the series. She is stuck in an altered version of the academy (after all, what is "the academy", if not a vast towering infrastructure meant for keeping people in line to a set of arbitrary rules). While there, Utena is lost in her own mind, haunted by the ghosts of her memories, forgetting herself and what she did for Anthy, forgetting what she is truly capable of. Anthy is more aggressively pursuing Utena, because she is NOT actually held by the academy's spell anymore. She is truly herself, and remembers what has happened before. She also knows the kind of trap Utena is stuck in now. Anthy knows she has to play through the "game", go through the motions to get Utena to remember herself on her own. That has always been a theme of the series: others can aid you, but ultimately you must find the strength to save yourself. That's why Anthy still does what she does. She has to remind Utena of who she is. That's also why the side characters can't recall past events. The academy makes you forget. Until they find the will to leave, they will be forever doomed to repeat their actions. In the movie, Anthy's brother is more frail and small of stature. This is because he's already been defeated. The confrontation at the end is his last struggling gasp to try to bring Anthy under his control again. In the end, of course, Anthy and Utena plow through the illusions and escape together into adulthood, into a world without the BS arbitrary rules to bind them, where they can make their own path together under the stars in the real sky. I really like this theory. It's something that I was slowly starting thinking too; that Anthy and Utena's roles seemed to have switched. It certainly explains things. The movie allows both characters to come full circle and that's pretty awesome. |
| the series was way better with the character designs. this had better background art and cinematic creativity. it has a lot of potential... as a tv show. anthy and utena’s love was too rushed for my taste and in the show, there was gradual build-up to how close they were. if the original was as queer, it’d be perfect. but there are some details i like, including utena flirting with the girls and stuff that couldn’t make it to the original. |
| Ridiculously beautiful movie. In my opinion, it stands on one level with EoE for its artistic beauty and the worthy message embodied in a symbolic vessel (I hope my comparison with EoE won't hurt the pride of the creators, because I consider it the pinnacle of cinematography and animation). |
| The new voice actor for Akio ruined my whole fantasy. ugh As for the movie.. at least it was beautifully done. |
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| Nice Animation direction but good god so much of this was abstract for the sake of being abstract. Watching this with the director's commentary it's interesting to learn how many times he explains the imagery is meant to represent something and just how often it just doesn't really do that. Not in a particularly thoughtful or clear way. Specially the final act. The story of Utena and Hime leaving behind their dead princes and their dream world of purity to embark on their journey into the real world and adulthood is a great plot and should make for an interesting film. Unfortunately I just couldn't get into it because of it's abstract nature. I had the same issues with series as well personally. I just wish the imagery was a little less obtuse...oh well. |
| @BlaizeV were did you get the commentary version? This would seriously be worth it. So. That happened. The first hour was superior and more straight forward than the series, but wtf the last 20 minutes turned full evangelion. The 90s were a crazy time. Clitoris car Utena. Nuff said. Will copy paste my notes later. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Comander-07 said: @BlaizeV were did you get the commentary version? This would seriously be worth it. So. That happened. The first hour was superior and more straight forward than the series, but wtf the last 20 minutes turned full evangelion. The 90s were a crazy time. Clitoris car Utena. Nuff said. Will copy paste my notes later. It's on the official Nozomi Entertainment Blu Ray release in the USA. It is also on the [Zero] Blu Ray rip of the film if you know where to look |
JOELbedulla said: Honestly? I understand the movie. I think I really get the grasp of it, and I'm not saying this to act like I'm a smart bitch. I believe this movie and the TV series have multiple, maybe countless interpretations. However, I'm pretty sure this movie was talking about life after death. The last minutes were talking about going to the outside world, which is the real world where we came from. Jury, Miki and Saionji weren't real. Imo they symbolize the archons that pretend they know you (taking the form of loved ones such as friends or family members) and their goal is to keep you trapped in the fake world. That's why they lied to Anthy, so she'd come back to the old world and be again a living corpse. The ending with Utena and Anthy killing the prince is a parallel of humans killing god (aka the Demiurge in Gnostic thought) I think this movie makes perfect sense if you study Gnosticism and think of Dios as the fake god that keeps people trapped in this game of drama and dueling. I, too, thought that the movie was about the afterlife, though what I've understood was a bit different than the conclusion you've come to. :0 Since the show is good at telling multiple narratives all at once, I thought that one of the ways to interpret the story is about God and the afterlife but in a more literal sense. There is a "God" in the form of Dios, however the Dios in Akio does not exists. This is why people started seeing Dios in Utena, even though they have never seen the person Dios before. This makes Utena Jesus like, since she embodies God. This is also why Akio who's dressed as the "prince" looks different from Dios, when it came towards the end of the movie. This is because Akio, being the Lucifer figure was posing as "God". I think the students; student council included, represents the humans who're at risk to being taken by Lucifer. Since Akio went around making people do his bidding over the promise of "Eternity". Even though we come to find out "Eternity" is actually eternal suffering, as seen from Anthy. The school can be seen as "real life", or hell. Which explains why before Utena came along, people were obsessing over their past, like eternal suffering. After being betrayed by Anthy like how Judas betrayed Jesus, Utena dissapears only to return to the school again sometime later. I think Utena's return represents the second coming of Christ. She came to take those who were worthy to Heaven, and those who are not will go to Hell. This is why Shiori as a car, crashed. Because by the time of the film, she was still an unchanged person. I believe the talk about "returning to where we came from" is actually talking about Heaven, or to returning to the Creator. With Utena essentially freeing everyone, eveyrone disappeared from the school, revealing the building's true form. The beautiful school that was a lie created by Lucifer. So yeah, TL;DR I think it's more so about rejecting Satan to be saved by God. |
MonushaJan 5, 2021 10:35 PM
| I know it was supposed to be a serious scene but god, I laughed so hard at Akio falling off the balcony while having a breakdown xD Now seriously, it's a real shame his character is such a loser in this version. Main-Series Akio was a bastard but an interesting and decently written one at least. Movie Akio is just a weirdo who drugs and rapes his sister in her sleep. Enough said. Well... I got the yuri most people acknowledge Utena for but at what cost? Cast was more bland than ever, storytelling as well as the relationship between Utena and Anthy felt rushed as hell and sorry but my brain started malfunctioning the moment Utena turned into a damn car. Too much surrealism for me. 3/10 - Oh boy. They sure smoked a strong one before making this movie. Art; OST and Utena's "ikemen" design being the only things I liked. |
SouthRzVaMay 18, 2021 11:30 PM
| What the fuck was this? |
| Worst anime ever made |
| i finished the series and then immediately watched the movie... ngl it made my brain explode. i went with the expectation that it would have the same level of symbolism or even lighter but this was wayyyy too much for me. I need to rewatch this at a later date because i didnt understand a lot of things. it all felt too rushed and high paced and i aint the brightest bitch however seeing cow Nanami was one of the funniest things, I didnt expect her to make a repearance like that I honestly thought she just didnt exist here lmao |
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| I'm more confused with this version then the anime one but atleast that last scene is worth the watch |
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