Attack on Titan
Jupi-Jup said: You dont need to go far to see that Eren character is something that a real person would do. I dont want to involve politics but like its the best example... Look at Russia/Ukraine, they whole motive of invading ukraine is to get revenge on the west, because they dont like it. And justifying it as helping and protecting the people of russia while in reallity they suffer more then ever now. Same shit. The same nonesense motives but they do really happen give the power to the wrong person and that's might happen. So yeah Eren is well written character. Like yeah his motives are childish he is but hurt but like he is written well and that's reasoning is quite real. Tbh before the invasion of ukraine eveyone where sceptical as to will they invade because like that move is fucking retarded. yeah! man we humans are enough to destroy our civilization by ourselves we don't need alien,pandemic, meteors , Supervolcano etc for this . |
| complete idiot. his motivation is so poorly written at this point it's bordering on insanity - but even psychopaths can be analyzed to some degree, so eren is even more illogical than a psycho. he's literally impossible to understand as a character and it makes all his decisions seem meaningless. does he want freedom? does he want his friends to live happy lives? does he want revenge for his mom? who knows, because all of those goals ultimately contradict each other in some way and the rumbling solves none of them. killing the whole world will surely not make his friends happy, they'll live the rest of their lives with regret and sadness, not to mention he's putting them through hell to try and stop him. the revenge angle is so done at this point, it's not even a debate anymore that the death of his mom, or even all the people who died in the walls via titans, is worth destroying the world for. and if he kills everyone but those in paradis, it won't erase the cycle/history of hatred, because people are people and they will always find a way to hate. so in summary, he is an idiot and frankly so is the manga author for writing him this way. even the worst antagonists have a clear motivation no matter how simplistic or complex, so i feel like i can't even call eren the show's antagonist now. he's just a nuisance |
fragilefireMay 27, 2022 10:10 AM
Alvacka97 said: ofcourse in their fanpages Aot will be rated high wtf logic is that? Haven't you seen the ratings of manga went soo down after ch139. Infact the ratings in mal went downhill from ch136 itself. Aot is still praised soo much in IMDb anilist and crunchyroll because ch139 haven't been animated yet.AishaBi said: It's been months since i posted that you weirdo, move on xDEren is the worst protagonist, cry about it ending defenders who actually are the minority but pretend as if you're majority And we are the majority, dumbass, unlike you we can actually provide proof to that. AoT will keep being praised, will keep getting essays and analysis and will remain in the top 50 highest rated shows both here, in IMDB, in Anilist, Crunchyroll and any other platform for years to come, cry about it all you want, miserable fuck 🤣🤣🤣    Trust me I once was like you, worshipping aot and isayama everywhere, even tried my best to like that ending but sorry I couldn't.. it was that terrible |
AishaBi said: Alvacka97 said: ofcourse in their fanpages Aot will be rated high wtf logic is that? Haven't you seen the ratings of manga went soo down after ch139. Infact the ratings in mal went downhill from ch136 itself. Aot is still praised soo much in IMDb anilist and crunchyroll because ch139 haven't been animated yet.It's been months since i posted that you weirdo, move on xD And we are the majority, dumbass, unlike you we can actually provide proof to that. AoT will keep being praised, will keep getting essays and analysis and will remain in the top 50 highest rated shows both here, in IMDB, in Anilist, Crunchyroll and any other platform for years to come, cry about it all you want, miserable fuck 🤣🤣🤣 Trust me I once was like you, worshipping aot and isayama everywhere, even tried my best to like that ending but sorry I couldn't.. it was that terrible yeah I recently read the ending of attack on titan and I don't what they are liking maybe they are liking that 80% innocent people died in outside world or Armin thanking Eren for genocide? or Eren was crying and saying please Mikasa don't forget me for next 10 years? or Mikasa ended up with jean or Historia Ended up with farmer-kun? or Eren,Floch,Hange died or Outside world next generation is now taking revenge from Paradis island for 80% people who died 100 years ago or Eren killed his own mom to save bertholdt (what a stupid thing this was) I don't know man what they are liking in the ending . |
GreyratAnimelist said: the fact is no one actually likes the ending. It has soo much of plot holes and everyone knows about it. It's just that they liked the series to the point that they're not ready to accept it and still coping as much as they can.AishaBi said: ofcourse in their fanpages Aot will be rated high wtf logic is that? Haven't you seen the ratings of manga went soo down after ch139. Infact the ratings in mal went downhill from ch136 itself. Aot is still praised soo much in IMDb anilist and crunchyroll because ch139 haven't been animated yet. Trust me I once was like you, worshipping aot and isayama everywhere, even tried my best to like that ending but sorry I couldn't.. it was that terrible yeah I recently read the ending of attack on titan and I don't what they are liking maybe they are liking that 80% innocent people died in outside world or Armin thanking Eren for genocide? or Eren was crying and saying please Mikasa don't forget me for next 10 years? or Mikasa ended up with jean or Historia Ended up with farmer-kun? or Eren,Floch,Hange died or Outside world next generation is now taking revenge from Paradis island for 80% people who died 100 years ago or Eren killed his own mom to save bertholdt (what a stupid thing this was) I don't know man what they are liking in the ending . |
fragilefire said: complete idiot. his motivation is so poorly written at this point it's bordering on insanity - but even psychopaths can be analyzed to some degree, so eren is even more illogical than a psycho. he's literally impossible to understand as a character and it makes all his decisions seem meaningless. does he want freedom? does he want his friends to live happy lives? does he want revenge for his mom? who knows, because all of those goals ultimately contradict each other in some way and the rumbling solves none of them. killing the whole world will surely not make his friends happy, they'll live the rest of their lives with regret and sadness, not to mention he's putting them through hell to try and stop him. the revenge angle is so done at this point, it's not even a debate anymore that the death of his mom, or even all the people who died in the walls via titans, is worth destroying the world for. and if he kills everyone but those in paradis, it won't erase the cycle/history of hatred, because people are people and they will always find a way to hate. so in summary, he is an idiot and frankly so is the manga author for writing him this way. even the worst antagonists have a clear motivation no matter how simplistic or complex, so i feel like i can't even call eren the show's antagonist now. he's just a nuisance Ill say again what i said above, Look at Russia, does their motives remotly logical? its borderline insane. Same shit, his character is very much real. I Do agree his motives are dumb af, but there are literally a Nation ruled by idiots alike in the real world. so saying "even psycos etc... can be analyzed" is inaccurate, as yeah looking at before ukrain invasion people said that only a psyco would invade ukrain as that has 0 stratigic gains for russia only downsides. they still did it, why? because pride or idk the motives are retarded dont ask why. The point is your motive doesnt need to be right or meaningfull or have any thing logical about it, it literally can be anything. and Tbh Eren has a motive he has a goal, its not like he does random shit. |
Jupi-Jup said: fragilefire said: complete idiot. his motivation is so poorly written at this point it's bordering on insanity - but even psychopaths can be analyzed to some degree, so eren is even more illogical than a psycho. he's literally impossible to understand as a character and it makes all his decisions seem meaningless. does he want freedom? does he want his friends to live happy lives? does he want revenge for his mom? who knows, because all of those goals ultimately contradict each other in some way and the rumbling solves none of them. killing the whole world will surely not make his friends happy, they'll live the rest of their lives with regret and sadness, not to mention he's putting them through hell to try and stop him. the revenge angle is so done at this point, it's not even a debate anymore that the death of his mom, or even all the people who died in the walls via titans, is worth destroying the world for. and if he kills everyone but those in paradis, it won't erase the cycle/history of hatred, because people are people and they will always find a way to hate. so in summary, he is an idiot and frankly so is the manga author for writing him this way. even the worst antagonists have a clear motivation no matter how simplistic or complex, so i feel like i can't even call eren the show's antagonist now. he's just a nuisance Ill say again what i said above, Look at Russia, does their motives remotly logical? its borderline insane. Same shit, his character is very much real. I Do agree his motives are dumb af, but there are literally a Nation ruled by idiots alike in the real world. so saying "even psycos etc... can be analyzed" is inaccurate, as yeah looking at before ukrain invasion people said that only a psyco would invade ukrain as that has 0 stratigic gains for russia only downsides. they still did it, why? because pride or idk the motives are retarded dont ask why. The point is your motive doesnt need to be right or meaningfull or have any thing logical about it, it literally can be anything. and Tbh Eren has a motive he has a goal, its not like he does random shit. i totally get what you're saying, but the problem is that you're equating fiction with real life - attack on titan is not real life, it's a crafted story. fiction can feel real, but ultimately it is written to have a plot, characters, etc that should all have purpose or meaning. not necessarily a deep meaning or anything, but meaning nonetheless, or else all stories would just be a bunch of random things thrown together that don't make sense. and obviously the writer of attack on titan KNOWS how to write, he is a masterful storyteller in many ways. the majority of this series is incredibly well-written, well-planned, has twists and turns, unique characters with believable personalities and motivations, etc... so why are eren's actions suddenly feeling so idiotic to so many people? it's because of bad writing. i think the writer just lost control of eren's character in a lot of ways and/or did an extremely poor job of relaying the drastic shift in eren's mentality. and i totally agree that motives can be anything, even something completely stupid -- as long as it makes sense that they would have that goal based on the type of character they are. eren's emotions and actions, no matter how dumb or impulsive, have always made sense for the kind of character he is, up until the timeskip. his post-timeskip character is just a mess imo |
fragilefireJun 2, 2022 8:45 PM
| god I used to wish Eren could rumble my ass but now I'm not so sure anymore |
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fragilefire said: i totally get what you're saying, but the problem is that you're equating fiction with real life - attack on titan is not real life, it's a crafted story. fiction can feel real, but ultimately it is written to have a plot, characters, etc that should all have purpose or meaning. not necessarily a deep meaning or anything, but meaning nonetheless, or else all stories would just be a bunch of random things thrown together that don't make sense. and obviously the writer of attack on titan KNOWS how to write, he is a masterful storyteller in many ways. the majority of this series is incredibly well-written, well-planned, has twists and turns, unique characters with believable personalities and motivations, etc... so why are eren's actions suddenly feeling so idiotic to so many people? it's because of bad writing. i think the writer just lost control of eren's character in a lot of ways and/or did an extremely poor job of relaying the drastic shift in eren's mentality. and i totally agree that motives can be anything, even something completely stupid -- as long as it makes sense that they would have that goal based on the type of character they are. eren's emotions and actions, no matter how dumb or impulsive, have always made sense for the kind of character he is, up until the timeskip. his post-timeskip character is just a mess imo Supposedly it does happen to writters that they invest into characters so much that they dont really controll them. but like that means that Eren is kinda has his own motives. Tbh untill i see how that thing ends its hard for me to say if that was idiotic or not. from someone not knowing what comes next. it feels like Eren is trying to be the bad guy in order for everyone to hate him after that. like Lelouch from code geas. so something along those lines. Like if he start the rummbling destroyes half the world because well he was someone motivated by hate. and that hate was motivated by hate etc... Then he was stopped by supposedly the "bad guys" with would save half the world in the process. For once it would scare the shit out of the world to threaten the friends of eren as like they posses the power to destroy the world. and secondly they saved the world from some psyco. If that's are his motives then they are fine by me i found them like okayish i do feel like there was a better way of doing shit but whatever iam not the author. Also in a lot of stories now messing up the ending is kinda hard. |
| he's not an idiot but you are a fmab bot, next time watch the anime you wanna bash on |
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AishaBi said: Alvacka97 said: ofcourse in their fanpages Aot will be rated high wtf logic is that? Haven't you seen the ratings of manga went soo down after ch139. Infact the ratings in mal went downhill from ch136 itself. Aot is still praised soo much in IMDb anilist and crunchyroll because ch139 haven't been animated yet.It's been months since i posted that you weirdo, move on xD And we are the majority, dumbass, unlike you we can actually provide proof to that. AoT will keep being praised, will keep getting essays and analysis and will remain in the top 50 highest rated shows both here, in IMDB, in Anilist, Crunchyroll and any other platform for years to come, cry about it all you want, miserable fuck 🤣🤣🤣 Trust me I once was like you, worshipping aot and isayama everywhere, even tried my best to like that ending but sorry I couldn't.. it was that terrible How stupid you can be to judge such a complex work only for the last 3 chapters |
Jockeys said: not only last 3 chapters but rumbling Arc itself was terribly written.. the ending made it worseAishaBi said: ofcourse in their fanpages Aot will be rated high wtf logic is that? Haven't you seen the ratings of manga went soo down after ch139. Infact the ratings in mal went downhill from ch136 itself. Aot is still praised soo much in IMDb anilist and crunchyroll because ch139 haven't been animated yet. Trust me I once was like you, worshipping aot and isayama everywhere, even tried my best to like that ending but sorry I couldn't.. it was that terrible How stupid you can be to judge such a complex work only for the last 3 chapters |
| I'd say even if most of the buildings collapse, the residents will still have better chances of survival, compared to the rest of the world. So no Eren isn't an idiot, the idiots are the Reiss family, for renouncing war. |
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takashidraylus said: How you able to find this post after a year?? No, never! You just don't understand. |
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