| Can't say it's better but it's just as good. |
| That’s what I thought at the beginning but you have to think about it |
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| It was good but not better imo. |
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| I don't think it even needed a real reason to exist other than make money, so no. |
Tomthegreat784 said: Although 0 was good, it can’t compare to the original. They tried to add on to a plot that had already been completely solidified. The result was extremely far fetched and had too many plot holes. Also the op wasn’t as good. What are those plotholes? |
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| Nope. I think the OG steins;gate is much better |
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| 1000 times hell no, I thought this was trash. There is no Kurisu. All that needs to be said, and that crappy excuse in a substitue, Amadeus doesn't count |
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| I enjoyed 0 but the original is still better for me. |
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Sinbad_Echidna said: Yo, don't get me wrong I think both of the Steins gate Series should be rated 9 or 10 but I personally think that Steins gate 0 is better than Steins Gate am I the only one who thinks so? For me Steins gate 0 was more fire because of the knowledge from the original series. Can you relate? I kind of agree. While I wouldn't say better exactly, but still steins gate 0 was more impactful for me compared to steins gate. Especially how it ended and how it connects to original was jaw dropping |
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Tomthegreat784 said: Although 0 was good, it can’t compare to the original. They tried to add on to a plot that had already been completely solidified. The result was extremely far fetched and had too many plot holes. Also the op wasn’t as good. They wanted to give an explanation of the video message from Okabe in 2025. It would've always sat in people's minds for eternity had they not explored that. For me, both S;G and S;G 0 are a complete package. They're both 10s in my book, and I treat them as a single entity. A wholesome story albeit sad, tragic, and crushing, yet still hopeful and beautiful. |
| I thought sg 0 could've been so much better than steins gate if they did it more well but I still liked sg 0 a lot but I don't think it's better. |
| It's nowhere as good as the original series let alone better. |
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xZabuzax said: Nah, Steins;Gate 0 was garbage, doesn't come close to the OG Steins;Gate which is a masterpiece IMHO. S;G 0 explores Okabe's mental decline further and enhances his character to levels beyond just the main S;G. It gives a wholesome, clear picture of the fall and rise of his persona and the limits which he continues to break in order to save the ones he loves. Without this story we wouldn't have an explanation of the 2025 message. Calling it garbage while loving the original is confusing to me. But I guess that's your opinion.. |
xZabuzax said: TSTO said: S;G 0 explores Okabe's mental decline further and enhances his character to levels beyond just the main S;G. It gives a wholesome, clear picture of the fall and rise of his persona and the limits which he continues to break in order to save the ones he loves. Without this story we wouldn't have an explanation of the 2025 message. Calling it garbage while loving the original is confusing to me. But I guess that's your opinion.. Steins;Gate 0 was too childish for my taste, the OG Steins;Gate was a dark mature anime, at least on the 2nd half (my type of anime) but Steins;Gate 0 had childish things I've never expected to see from Steins;Gate and the biggest offender was episode 18 which completely killed that anime for me with crappy things like Kagari killing dozens of trained soldiers all by herself, slashing heads off with her bare hands, dodging bullets from machine guns in the middle of the battlefield and to top it off, the animation was horrendous and it doesn't stop here, we also have Samurais killing soldiers with swords when they are shooting at you with machine guns, what is this? is this Steins;Gate or a shounen anime? I didn't sign for this type of crap when I was watching Steins;Gate 0, way too childish for me man. I know that the OG Steins;Gate had something a bit similar in episode 13 with Suzuha defeating the SERN thugs, I didn't like it either but at least I can invent excuses for this one and that scene only lasted 3 seconds at best, plus we've learned in episode 20 that those SERN thugs were untrained random guys with mental issues, they probably didn't knew how to use a gun either so I can see why Suzuha was able to defeat them, it was still bad but I can at least invent excuses for this scene and let that one pass but in Steins;Gate 0 those scenes are a lot longer and way more retarded because we actually have people dodging bullets in the middle of the battlefield and even slashing heads off with their bare hands with horrendous animation, that was the icing in the cake for me. Plus Okabe was boring, the story never went anywhere either and only started going somewhere in the last couple of episodes, the villains are extremey bad and cringey, etc... Let's just say those are not my only complaints about Steins;Gate 0, my complaints are plenty but I did loved episode 8 though, it was an awesome episode but as a whole, that anime was garbage and way too childish for me. Thank you for the detailed response. I respect your opinion :) For me what made S;G 0 memorable and enjoyable was being able to see a side of Okabe that completely abandoned his old self due to the despair that was engulfing his mind. The trauma he experienced and his failure crushed his soul. As a person who suffers from trauma and depression myself, I identified with him on a deeper level in this season. That's not to take away anything from original S;G, I loved his character there too, and his shenanigans personality was a lot of fun and quite hilarious, and his agony was real there too. But his maturity level increased tenfold in S;G 0 within a matter of a few months after the tragedy that isn't yet solved before SG ep24. The lengths he ends up going towards the end to reach his objective are insane. It made me respect him a lot more even though people suffered for a very long time until he came to his senses, but without his 'awakening' so to speak and final operation Skuld, the great ending of the first series wouldn't be possible. Another thing that I absolutely enjoyed is the once again fantastic musical score. B-messenger is flawless in all its forms. The strings quartet version is so deep. It really complemented the complexity of this series and the depths of how far one must reach in order to succeed. Steins;Gate and Steins;Gate 0 both feature such amazing tracks that I really can't say anything else compares in this regard for me. My dad's a musician and I grew up around music all my life so maybe that's why it has such a profound effect on me and in everything I enjoy. Daru in my opinion is much more developed in this season too. Again, lovely character in original S;G as well, but he really gets to shine in this one, with his 2010 and future self both. His character really grew on me here beyond his typical antics. Maho is my favorite new character introduced and easily one of my favorite characters in the entire franchise. Plays really well off of Amadeus and is one of the reasons I purchased the S;G 0 VN which I've yet to get to (still working on Elite, I'm new to VNs). She's just a really good character in my honest opinion. Mayuri's development is great too. Her involvement towards the later end of the season is very important and you can see the desperation in her to try to help more than ever before. She is an emotional being and works off of pure care for her loved ones. I agree about episode 8 being fantastic, but I also think 21 was incredible and several other ones were very good. I'm also happy to have gotten at least a small semblance of a 2036 future. Even if it was short lived. Now of course there are some flaws but for me they didn't outweigh the positives of this series. Professor Reyes was pointless, Kagari was not explored deeply enough. What kind of training did she get to be able to fight that way? I agree with you that it was a bit farfetched, but I'll take the excuse that she was brainwashed to be a killing machine activated at the sound of a particular tune due to the future from which she came, where Leskinen had already begun the brainwashing experiment, and knowing how the future turns out via his future self sending him a message he continued his work in the present to make her into what she became. There were about 3-4 episodes that really didn't add much to the story. Most of the other ones in my opinion while not all perfect all mostly had something to add to the plot in some way or another, even if small. Leskinen was a funny and enjoyable character but a poor villain. Overall though, at the end of it, the story adds so much for me to the ending of OG Steins;Gate that I am very happy it was made. I'm sure I'll enjoy it even more once I play through the 0 VN. |
| steins;gate 0 is amazing but the fact that there's no kurisu makes it worse. |
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| I was fully on-board until the shoe-drop with Leskinen. Everything after that was a sloppily-directed, contrived mess. It didn't help either that the animation took a huge nosedive from this point forward. It sucks, because I was really enjoying most of the first half of the series. |
Sinbad_Echidna said: Yo, don't get me wrong I think both of the Steins gate Series should be rated 9 or 10 but I personally think that Steins gate 0 is better than Steins Gate am I the only one who thinks so? For me Steins gate 0 was more fire because of the knowledge from the original series. Can you relate? Totally agree! I think Steins;Gate 0 was better. I liked the pacing more and it was more suspenseful and emotional. The original series definitely built up the background to add depth to 0 |
| The Promised Rinascimento branch of the S;G 0 visual novel might indeed be on par with the original S;G. As a matter of fact, the best moments of the S;G 0 anime come from it (episode 8 and 20). It also gave a purpose to Judy Reyes, but that part was unfortunately skipped in the anime. On the other hand, the Vega & Altair branch contains all the trash writing, like the one girl vs 30 armed soldiers and another terrible plot line that the anime didn't adapt (but unfortunately added an idiotic red herring to reference it). Do note that Steins;Gate 0 wasn't written by a single scriptwriter, that's why the quality differs so much. The anime of S;G 0 is a mix of both branches; a clever idea, but not perfectly executed. I enjoyed it, but I can't really say if I would have liked it as much, if I hadn't read the VN beforehand. |
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Nirinbo said: The Promised Rinascimento branch of the S;G 0 visual novel might indeed be on par with the original S;G. As a matter of fact, the best moments of the S;G 0 anime come from it (episode 8 and 20). It also gave a purpose to Judy Reyes, but that part was unfortunately skipped in the anime. On the other hand, the Vega & Altair branch contains all the trash writing, like the one girl vs 30 armed soldiers and another terrible plot line that the anime didn't adapt (but unfortunately added an idiotic red herring to reference it). Do note that Steins;Gate 0 wasn't written by a single scriptwriter, that's why the quality differs so much. The anime of S;G 0 is a mix of both branches; a clever idea, but not perfectly executed. I enjoyed it, but I can't really say if I would have liked it as much, if I hadn't read the VN beforehand. The anime is not really a mix of both branches. It is the ladt iteration, the final route (since there is not really a final route in the VN, we just got a true ending chapter out of the thin air) |
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SciADV_Maniac said: Nirinbo said: The Promised Rinascimento branch of the S;G 0 visual novel might indeed be on par with the original S;G. As a matter of fact, the best moments of the S;G 0 anime come from it (episode 8 and 20). It also gave a purpose to Judy Reyes, but that part was unfortunately skipped in the anime. On the other hand, the Vega & Altair branch contains all the trash writing, like the one girl vs 30 armed soldiers and another terrible plot line that the anime didn't adapt (but unfortunately added an idiotic red herring to reference it). Do note that Steins;Gate 0 wasn't written by a single scriptwriter, that's why the quality differs so much. The anime of S;G 0 is a mix of both branches; a clever idea, but not perfectly executed. I enjoyed it, but I can't really say if I would have liked it as much, if I hadn't read the VN beforehand. The anime is not really a mix of both branches. It is the ladt iteration, the final route (since there is not really a final route in the VN, we just got a true ending chapter out of the thin air) Yes, I didn't explain myself but that's what I meant. The last iteration wasn't shown in the VN because it would have been redundant, since it is (for the most part) a mix of events that happened in different branches. |
| nah steins gate is infinitely better imo but is still dope |
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| It feels like S;G 0 threw everything that made S;G so great over board and turned it into a mediocre harem. The writing of S;G 0 is nowhere near as good as the original, the characters which I loved seemed blunt and lacked depth. Mayuri, one of my favorite characters in the original, disappointed me the most. She has no drive, nothing that makes her stand out as an individual, she is just there because she played a key role in the original series. Her behavior is irrational and borderline insane. The other, less important main characters, seem even more redundant and lifeless. The entire second half of the anime is riddled with exaggerations and bad anime tropes. MC gets shot hundreds of times and survives whilst soldiers wearing kevlar die after getting scratched by a bullet? An antagonist with no clear motif other than "because I can"? Defying one in a million odds with the "power of friendship"? An antagonist who holds a speech in a heated situation and everyone cares enough to listen? Characters that wouldn't kill Hitler because "killing is bad"? Give the characters a reason to exist. Give me a reason to like or dislike them. Not every show needs a happy end. Not every character has to act like Jesus, it makes everything seem so artificial, unreal, inhuman and simply unbelievable. The first half of the series hooked me so hard, it gave me all the S;G vibes I used to love. I was excited to see the antagonist, I was excited to see Kyoma struggle, I was happy to see the characters interacting the way I remembered it, unfortunately I was left disappointed and with a bitter taste in my mouth... S;G is one of my favorite anime of all time, S;G 0 on the other hand is not a worthy successor, not even close. |
| idk, I dropped it halfway, steins;gate wasn't for me anymore when this series came out. To think I was hyping this release back then... |
xZabuzax said: Cirno9 said: It feels like S;G 0 threw everything that made S;G so great over board and turned it into a mediocre harem. The writing of S;G 0 is nowhere near as good as the original, the characters which I loved seemed blunt and lacked depth. Mayuri, one of my favorite characters in the original, disappointed me the most. She has no drive, nothing that makes her stand out as an individual, she is just there because she played a key role in the original series. Her behavior is irrational and borderline insane. The other, less important main characters, seem even more redundant and lifeless. The entire second half of the anime is riddled with exaggerations and bad anime tropes. MC gets shot hundreds of times and survives whilst soldiers wearing kevlar die after getting scratched by a bullet? An antagonist with no clear motif other than "because I can"? Defying one in a million odds with the "power of friendship"? An antagonist who holds a speech in a heated situation and everyone cares enough to listen? Characters that wouldn't kill Hitler because "killing is bad"? Give the characters a reason to exist. Give me a reason to like or dislike them. Not every show needs a happy end. Not every character has to act like Jesus, it makes everything seem so artificial, unreal, inhuman and simply unbelievable. The first half of the series hooked me so hard, it gave me all the S;G vibes I used to love. I was excited to see the antagonist, I was excited to see Kyoma struggle, I was happy to see the characters interacting the way I remembered it, unfortunately I was left disappointed and with a bitter taste in my mouth... S;G is one of my favorite anime of all time, S;G 0 on the other hand is not a worthy successor, not even close. How can you dislike Steins;Gate 0 if it has Samurais in it dodging bullets and killing dozens of soldiers all by himself with a sword? an anime can't be bad if it has Samurais for the same reason an anime can't be bad if it has Ninjas. Samurais and Ninjas always makes an anime good man, are you telling me an anime with Samurais and Ninjas can't be good? Yeah don't bother to respond to this, I'm just being sarcastic, Steins;Gate 0 was indeed a disappointment for me and I will go beyond that and even call it utter garbage. Steins;Gate 0 is just a garbage anime with a couple of decent episodes, nothing more, nothing less. Steins;Gate 0 did the complete opposite of the things that I loved about Steins;Gate. I figured that you were being sarcastic. It's just incredibly unfortunate that the series had a promising beginning and fell apart so quickly. It really makes you wonder, how did they mess up the characters so badly when they were initially well written, at least on a decent level. Since I have a strong disliking towards harem anime and (bad) anime tropes, yes considering s;g 0 utter garbage is justified. |
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