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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- huh, so the aggressiveness of beastmen comes way back from ancient times and it seems all of them have this syndrome, which Sylvasta tries to cure pretty interesting episode, a lot of tension build-up. should the beastmen remain the same or should they be cured? guess, the climax episodes will reveal the answer to that |
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| Good episode, I wonder how they will finish all the story about the syndrome in only 2 episodes |
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Ashhk said: Good episode, I wonder how they will finish all the story about the syndrome in only 2 episodes Easy, it's trigger Studio SO  |
| This show really has gone downhill for me. It started as a show with so much potential, promise with its synopsis and setting, and had the staff to make a wacky concept like this work with charm. And it did work for a few episodes, but then because of its very short length, events started to feel shoved down without much actual intrigue, and the plot in reality felt very, very safe and standard compared to what it could have been. Trigger rarely plays it safe, but they sure did this time. And I'm not really a fan, since it left me more bored by the end. The story became more safe and uninteresting and rushed, the characters continued to remain bland, the visuals are actually slightly underwhelming for what it could offer, the soundtracks are alright but lack intensity and charm, this whole anime is just becoming more hollow and hollow by the episode. 2 more episodes and its done, hope it can at least end sort of well. |
| I mean. Considering the show was built on the idea of 'Don't trust anyone, even your fellow beastmen.' It's fitting it's gone in this direction. I honestly don't believe that this syndrome is 100% legit. There has got to be a twist in it that isn't explained. |
| The story is getting so complicated. I don't think they will be able to tie all the loose ends. |
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| welp that mirrors our real world problem of globalization and overpopulation giving racial and cultural conflict or tribalism "us vs them" but in this case its "me (the rampaging beast) vs them" basic (social) darwinism "every man for himself or kill or be killed or law of the jungle" stuff but ye lets see how Michiru becomes a Brand New Animal without or less of that violent nature since she is a mixed human and beast after all "who cares about race as long as youre alive" - Michiru then lets go transhumanism or artificial evolution like you girl lol  |
Daniel_Naumov said: deg said: welp that mirrors our real world problem of globalization and overpopulation giving racial and cultural conflict or tribalism "us vs them" but in this case its "me (the rampaging beast) vs them" basic (social) darwinism "every man for himself or kill or be killed or law of the jungle" stuff Great racist narrative degman, but as we know Sylvasta is the one guilty of causing these "modern" rampages. It is not about beasts just being close to each other, different species, it is about an individual (an organization) causing disorder in pursuit of personal goals, however noble. Do not know how it goes with your take on multiculturalism. err im actually a globalist especially believing in a global tax system and nope cultural conflict will happen so better go all world cultural assimilation and create a new one like what the internet culture is trying to start maybe Cultural conflict is a type of conflict that occurs when different cultural values and beliefs clash. It has been used to explain violence and crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_conflict |
Daniel_Naumov said: deg said: err im actually a globalist especially believing in a global tax system and nope cultural conflict will happen so better go all world cultural assimilation and create a new one like what the internet culture is trying to start maybe Cultural conflict is a type of conflict that occurs when different cultural values and beliefs clash. It has been used to explain violence and crime. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_conflict Yeah no you are trying to apply wrong metaphors which do not stand in-story. Reflect on that. guess you think of it literally or strictly while i just loosely or abstractly think more about it |
erikkamirs said: Animacity is a fascist state, not a communist. There is a huge divide between social classes, it's literally an ethnostate, all information from the outside world is censored, and they invented a pretend God (rather than a dictator) to control the people.If anyone has ever watched Gurren Lagann, this show is turning out a lot like Gurren Lagann. I was kinda hoping more so for a Marxist take, where the material conditions of Animacity were causing the unrest, rather than genetic conditions. I mean being poor and having to rely on crime to make ends meet kinda sucks, lol. Then Michuru and Oogami would destroy capitalism, seize the means of production, and save the world, lol. There's still 2(?) episodes left, so here's hoping! Michiru already accepted the government as is. She supports Nazuna. The only person opposed to all of this is Shirou, but he refuses to integrate with humans and he advocates for the ethnostate. There's not much nuance, I think you are giving it more credit than it derserves. |
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| I feel like this escalated way too quickly and I have to side with Shirou here. He's been protecting beastmen all these years and now suddenly they want to just make beastmen into humans? That's got to be a total slap in the face. And Michiru is pretty much dead to me at this point. She doesn't have time to make any kind of decent turnaround. |
If there's a critique somewhere I can't find it. The setting reminds me of a more grounded version of Kill la Kill's, except in that anime the main characters revolted against the system. In this the writers don't criticize it. It goes a lot further right than just neoliberalism. |
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| The only way to save beatmen from their agressivity is to turn them into humans wtf Shirou acts irrationnally too, too bad |
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| @Daniel_Naumov or Alan wants to become "god" by becoming beastmen and recreating events that Shirou survived. ;) |
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| Great epiosde! When dealing with that rampaging Horse, Michiru gets shot with live amunition and Alan is trying to brush it off as a "mistake"! He sure knows how to talk himself out of these situations. I can't blame Shirou for losing his cool there! We'll see who will be right in the end but it seems that even the Major got tricked and the minister was already fully into the scheme... |
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| They're going at it in such a roundabout way I can't help but feel BNA is losing the appeal it showed in its first episodes. |
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| After this episode...BNA as a series is becoming truly what it is: an oversighted flaw, given scriptwriter Kazuki Nakashima's signature blunder of "if it makes ANY sense, then it's a story worth telling." FYI, emphasize that this is Episode 10, not the usual 8/9 (where IMO the 3-episode rule applies for the end as well for a decent ending). Heck, they could've done an extra Episode 13 too. The distrust to Alan Sylvasta only keeps growing, and his "Nirvasyl Syndrome" only serves to displace Animacity and tie loose ends as amicably as possible without giving his main plot away to make the city ANOTHER human-filled fascist city. As Shirou loses his mentality and let's the better of Alan's plot sieve into his mindset along with Mayor Barbaray's vision and mission for Animacity, so do Michiru and her reasoning. Even with Nazuna's blatant requests set upon her... Michiru's mum: "As long as Ginrou-sama is here (Nazuna, NOT Shirou), may you become a good beastmen." Mayor Barbaray: "I don't care if I die being a beastmen..." *Alan comes in like a boss of his ministers tasks* See the overarching plot now? animejas said: The innovation really lost its charm when the content is lesser than the plot, and I have to concede to this thought as well.And it did work for a few episodes, but then because of its very short length, events started to feel shoved down without much actual intrigue, and the plot in reality felt very, very safe and standard compared to what it could have been. Trigger rarely plays it safe, but they sure did this time. And I'm not really a fan, since it left me more bored by the end. 2 episodes to go...it's VERY hard to wrap content like this in such a short frame of time, but the wish-fulfilment must go on. |
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| Things escalated fast and I refuse to believe Alan is working for the good of the beastmen. In the first place turning beastmen into human is a ridiculous thought. It's straight up asking them to change their species lmao, no way that's gonna work. |
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| I mean, yeah, cool episode, but leave the Mayor alone. I swear to Ginrou if anything happens to her... Also, not gonna lie, I was surprised that the ''ancestor theory'' got confirmed. |
| ...-su. |
| Alan is so good to manipulate everyone, I like his despicable personality. But we only have more 2 episodes, we had absolutely nothing important before episode 6 and now everything is going so fast. I feel we needed more information. |
| Imagine how boring this world would be without Japan - a comment at youtube |
| I don't buy the syndrome Alan is talking about, he's too shady. Yaba (the rhino) rampaged after Nazuna's "manager" visited him in jail... I think he developed the rampaging agent to create a reason to finally eliminate the beastmen, an obsession of his family during the las 1000 years. It's Trigger, there's always a twist. Too bad this one was so predictable, but let's see, there might be more in store. |
| I no longer have any hope for this series. Everything is so predictable, almost all the characters are dumb or poorly developed. It is obvious that Alan is not a good person and he is going to do something bad. |
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| Well, things sure got complicated this time with Shirou practically becoming an enemy of the state. Honestly, can't blame the guy for losing his temper. It indeed was a lot to take in. Interesting episode. Leaving aside the fact of Alan probably having more personal motives, I actually liked the moral dilemma that was established. The sudden Idol performance idea tho... that really came out of nowhere... |
| And here I had hoped Trigger would defy expectations by having the evil looking guy be good after all. Seems that's not the case, but I surmise the ending will be characteristically Trigger given that we're only 2 episodes out. |
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| Yay! Here come the answers they expected so much, now the mystery is revealed. The narrative has managed once again to be engaging and to provide basic messages: propaganda is a formidable weapon, like the oratory art, today's enemy can prove to be the ally of tomorrow and you must never betray your ideas. Think people think! |
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| Turning the horse beastman into a human without his permission or even that of a relative really angered me. It reminded me of forced sterilization. Government imposing it's will upon the people. |
| All of the plot twist really confusing. Until now, i don't really get it, who was right, and who was wrong there. But one thing can be the truth that Michiru always be a naives being. Its just simple, cosidering her ego swings so fast, like my mood watching this episode entirely. Another interesting part here where finally Boss of the family worked together with Oogami. Interesting to see how they work together fighting Alan's plan in the last two episodes. Can Anima's city survived? What Michiru do? I hope she doesn't do shit while conflict happen. |
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| Alan really is showcasing himself as a villain in this episode. Simply trying to brush aside the moment when his robots tried to shoot down Michiru with live ammunition by "accident" is a bit of a bad move on his part. Despite that, his plan is rather well constructed and things are still falling into place for him. Shiro really lost his rag multiple times at Alan, mainly down to his plan of "curing" the beastman against their will with the vaccine he's making and I honestly can't blame him for it. With him now being classed as a criminal and with Mayor Rose now in a bind thanks to her visit to the dodgy minister, it was good timing to see the mobster boss make his appearance again. It'll be interesting to see what will happen with these two next time. As for Michiru, she's now back on nicer terms with Nazuna, who made a sudden appearance and their chat was pretty nice. Despite that, Michiru's still concerned about Shiro, so whatever happens within the last two episodes, I still think Michiru is going to be involved one way or another. As a main character, that enough should be obvious. |
| I have a feeling Nazuna is going to be backstabbed or die, either killed/betrayed by Alan or that obsessed follower of hers. |
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| looks like everything is going down again! you can't trust Alan! PM is making the situation more worse! 5/5. |
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| Different species being cramped together on one territory leads to build-up of frustration and aggression? It is as if he is saying multiculturalism is bad. Alan is pretty based in that regard, too bad he's being made into a villain here, as expected from the studio that tends to pander to the west. |
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| The mayor has found out the hard way that Alan and the prime minister cannot be trusted. Hopefully, she can still be rescued. Shirou has gotten into a car with the head of "The Family." Can he be trusted this time around? |
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| Evil Alan is evil. Poor mayor, she means well. Tsk, this episode showed me, ultimately Michiru is a human. A human who was illegally turned into a beastman, but a human nevertheless. She doesn't even try to see it from Shirou or a beastman's POV. Making the species extinct, how the heck is that a good idea? Smh. Disappointed in her. Shirou shouldn't have gotten so emotional though his reaction was understandable. Plus, he was never going to have anyone on his side, anyway. Beastmen are ignorant about the experiments and supposed rampage disease, the mayor has been swayed by Alan, Alan is sneaky, etc etc. |
| Well, despite I don’t trust in Alan, if what he said about the vaccine is true, well, many ethic problems must be approached here, he entitled himself to take care of a problem that is not of his business., beastmen is a race here, and with all, they have an essence as a race, they must take their own decisions for the better of the race, unfortunately, that harder to do than to say, with examples in modern human society. I’m in the line between understanding and not understanding Shirou’s attitude, I’m very biased upon not trusting Alan, and getting something from Flip, I guess, especially after Rose’s arrest. |
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| Michiru is quite stubborn with her ideas, she should analyze more and not trust too much, but sometimes we can be like that. Shirou is right in several ways. |
| Sometimes otakus are rejected by society, so I discovered that it is much better to be an otaku in secret.  |
| Michiru is quite stubborn with her ideas, she should analyze more and not trust too much, but sometimes we can be like that. Shirou is right in several ways. |
| Sometimes otakus are rejected by society, so I discovered that it is much better to be an otaku in secret. |
| Nice job supporting the silver wolf there Michiru, true comrade like your friend Nazuna... Shirou acted pretty rash there but can't blame him for having pride in being a beastmen with the turn beastmen to humans being sort of the same thing as erasing all beastmen so only humans remain. I don't trust Alan's explanation there, I believe his ancestors made the animals go berserk with some drug. |
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Ellenwitch said: I mean. Considering the show was built on the idea of 'Don't trust anyone, even your fellow beastmen.' It's fitting it's gone in this direction. I honestly don't believe that this syndrome is 100% legit. There has got to be a twist in it that isn't explained. More likely it is triggered by some substance that, surprise surprise, is also made by Sylvasta and his company. We already saw a clear hint of this earlier when Boris was the apparent cause of the syndrome of that guy who was in prison. Right after he super-beastified and wrecked the prison Boris reported to his boss about how the test* went, and that boss is almost certainly Alan Sylvasta. *Not just a test. Sylvasta also wanted to shut his mouth before he confessed what he knew to the police. He is the only one with both a motive and means to take him out. (I still have not watched the last 2 episodes...) |
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| This was an interesting episode. I didn't expect that the Beastmen killed each other and then humans finished them off 1000 years ago!!! And is Alan a good guy??  |
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