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Mar 23, 2010 3:57 AM

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hazelnutman said:
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY BLOODBATH EPISODE?


No kidding, the whole series felt like it was building up to something epic and the previous ep especially set a tone that this ep started off following really well, but totally fucked up when it came to the actual conflict. When Kanata started playing Amazing Grace I paused the video and asked aloud "are you fucking kidding me?"

Rio being the definitive stopper of the conflict at least made that bearable, but Rio re-joining at the end... oh god, when the bike came up I thought "oh lol, this is Rio" but then I thought "no, this isn't, this show wouldn't do that" and then it was Rio. ARRRGGG.

I still gave it a 9. Even if the payoff was totally wasted potential the build up was enjoyable and I definitely really enjoyed those first 11 eps. I'm just pissed off that this is what became of all that. Fuck.
Mar 23, 2010 4:56 AM

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Oh, there's Rio.
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Mar 23, 2010 4:59 AM

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This episode is really good. I can't say it's epic, but it's still good. Somehow the development of this epi suits the whole series' speed very well, not too fierce, but not too calm. Since the very start this show seemed to be slow to me, so i guess this kind of ending is quite reasonable. 7/10, and season 2 is unneeded.
Mar 23, 2010 4:59 AM

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RinM said:
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The song is great.....if you have family that was in WW2 you know would know the song's greatness.


I do have a grandfather who was in WW2 and he newer said anything about Amazing grace...He did say about "we are a squad of bombers" lol
Well maybe if you are American o British I can understand but in Eastern Europe we had are own songs. For example “There, far away”.


Sorry to the others I didn't reply... Just to lazy
It's ok but that was my point.....learning to appreciate the songs of WW2 people.....in the end this would be a more personal opinion but I personally got stories of Amazing Grace although some of it was changed with added French Words.....it helped lots of people in WW2 as most did not have anything to play music other than their mouths/instruments.....the harmonica was also popular....heard tales about them?


Oh I do appreciate them it's just I don't believe that a song could just stop 1000 soldiers just like that. I also wander if besides all the noise the tanks and the people were making, a trumpet could be heard at all. I know that instruments can be really loud to the point of shaking your bones but still...I somehow doubt it.

Oh I agree with you and that's why I suspect us to assume God/Angel came around with that sudden light and amplified the sound......think of supernatural meets sound and amplifies it in the minds of all the soldiers.....but of course that is all to assume since none was shown only told about between Yumina/Aisha in their religious talks.

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Mar 23, 2010 6:18 AM

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I have to say, I was expecting a lot more from this anime, but that last episode is just... f****** great!! The moe-crap and the useless stuff dissapeared to give us, somehow, an action-pack episode.

BTW: The Takemikazuchi is the greatest tank EVAR!!! It kicks asses so much!!
Mar 23, 2010 6:41 AM

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Nice tank :D


Mar 23, 2010 7:00 AM

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Meh, Haibane Remnei did this all 10 times better. I was sorta hoping for a bloodbath ending but that was always unlikely. Still, I enjoyed the series for the most part, especially episode 7.

7/10
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Mar 23, 2010 7:22 AM

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Haylias said:
I'm going to agree with 7/10. 6 is to harsh and 8 is to generous.


I agree with that score as well.

It would have been much lower if not for episodes 10 and 11, but could have been higher if the ending had been better.
Mar 23, 2010 7:48 AM
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This series really keep up to my expectation.No one die in the making of this anime ^^
Mar 23, 2010 7:52 AM

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Timare said:
Also Rio's returning back to the 1121 Platoon was unexpected because she was the Roman Emperor's fiancee and all.

I was also surprise on that one, I though Rio is going to pay visit at the 1121 Platoon.

The plot is kinda screwed up, you don't know if it's drama, war, or what. It stuck for me. First half was drama, I feel so pity for them especially for Kureha. DAMN Colonel, I wish I could punch him real hard from what his point of view about war. I do like the part where the people stop colonel's brigade from stopping the 1121 platoon. Reminds me of People Power (a little).

I could not understand about the legend and the flame maidens, as if they need more to emphasize that part to be able to understand.

GUNADAM Spider, good CG and animation. I could feel that I'm watching Gundam or what.

Second part was about war.Thrill over my body, I though they would be dead if they do a reckless move. Stopping between two opposite forces. Especially Kanata when she foolhardy go out and did Amazing Grace, man seriously my hair over my body are standing and my body get electrocuted. What I've been also surprise was when Rio suddenly appeared wearing Royal Dress! (WTF! She sell her FREEDOM to the Emperor) I would not ACCEPT that one.

Overall, we would not be expecting for second season for this. Maybe specials may quite enough.

I give the last episode 5 of 5. And for the series 8 out of 10
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I guess the idea of an S2 pretty much flew away with that ending since everything was just about wrapped up.
Yeah, it would have been pretty sweet as to jump from Kanata's ignorant reality to a war-torn story, with the song to be used as a final attempt before more would have been lost in massive bloodshed.

That would be horribly hilarious.

*Kanata finishes playing. Everyone stares at her.*
"What the hell was that?'
"I dunno. LET'S KEEP GOING!"
"YEAH KILL THEM ALL!"


They would probably do that if Rio hadn't stepped in.
Mar 23, 2010 7:56 AM

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magnum said:
Timare said:
Also Rio's returning back to the 1121 Platoon was unexpected because she was the Roman Emperor's fiancee and all.

I was also surprise on that one, I though Rio is going to pay visit at the 1121 Platoon.
She did only pay a visit to it and spend time with them.....Emperor granted her a wish.
magnum said:
What I've been also surprise was when Rio suddenly appeared wearing Royal Dress! (WTF! She sell her FREEDOM to the Emperor) I would not ACCEPT that one.
I am with you on that one but it had to be done for the whole war thing.....bet it was some deal done in all this. Rofl.....we gave it same score!

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Mar 23, 2010 7:57 AM

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lol @ this episode.
the drama,the battle and the sadistic general felt totally unfitting for this show
It was moe comedy from the start and it ended as moe comedy

ringoo4 said:
This was very predictable ending. I predicted Rio coming out again. I predicted they will somewhat blow that godamn trumpet again. I expected all those spider tanks will rush over. I predicted that no-one will die but ends with happy ever after. Everything went exactly as I thought, so it might be a good thing.

The problem is, no it isn't. From the start, Rio disappearance was extremely bad move; her coming back was very lame. This series is covered by unintelligent, senseless, and again, unintelligent masks of war drama and trying to hide the aspect of its industrial purposes


I totally agree with you, in your post you have summed up what I disliked about this show,the drama part didn't worked out well
but actually the score I'll give is a lot higher .

The episodes 1-9 had a nice humor and a lot of different and entertaining settings
10,11,12 were the episodes I liked less.
what I really liked about this show was the great BGM and the animation quality of the environment.

7/10
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Mar 23, 2010 8:02 AM

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Meh....sort of glad it's over. I gave it a 7/10. Didn't hate it, but didn't really like it either. It was alright...nothing new. The ending was sort of cliched in its own happy go lucky way :/

Only shocked about Rio tbh. But whatever. It's done.

Mar 23, 2010 8:15 AM

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second season. now. with more noel.

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Nice tank :D

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Mar 23, 2010 8:57 AM

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Spider Gundam FTW!!

Good episode.I still find it weird that they have those spider tanks but they use trumpets to signal attacks and retreats. But it was very amusing at how everyone listened at Kanata playing. I was hoping that she would get shot after she played but no dice XD... Peace talks now over thanks to Rio. Back to normal in the platoon.

Overall, not bad but not very good. Didn't stand out much besides the moe and Amazing Grace. 8/10
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ninryu said:
second season. now. with more noel.

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Nice tank :D

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Mar 23, 2010 9:38 AM

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Why are people actually shocked at Rio coming back as the princess? It's like... the most cliched plot device. Did people really think that Rio just ran off to go on a soul searching journey to find herself or something? The episode where she left pretty much gave it away that she was going back to the royal family to lend her assistance in any way necessary.
Mar 23, 2010 9:40 AM

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I don't know, this anime should've been better if it focused on only one thing. I just hate ambiguity. It tries to be moemoe, but at the same time, wants emotional war dramatica. They just... don't match. Viewers will never be focused on mood if sudden random boob grab kind of thing comes up during the emergency. It is just pain to watch.

Beside, this last episode was not good, because it was practically only one episode behind that all these 'War' thing actually broke out. For the past 9 wasted episodes, there was only a glimpse of war, but never actually made the mood or atmosphere looks like war; focusing more on slice of life aspect. There was some serious lack of development in this episode, everything sounded absurd and made less sense than anything. I can't do anything but laughing when town's people are screaming 'OMG WE DON'T WANT FREAKIN WAR GO AWAY!!!', or Rio come back and saying some cliched things. I mean, it's not supposed to be fun I know, but it's just... too hilarious and so out of anything.

I personally hate that tank. It is so out of circumstance. Trumpet communication + Past era spider tank fanciness = ???

This anime is... not that different from the failure of K-On for me...
Mar 23, 2010 9:47 AM

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I personally hate that tank.
Would it make you feel any better if the tank looked like this?
Mar 23, 2010 9:50 AM

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Not bad, this end. But instead of make a TV series, mostly about nothing. They should have to make a movie.

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ringoo4 said:
I don't know, this anime should've been better if it focused on only one thing. I just hate ambiguity. It tries to be moemoe, but at the same time, wants emotional war dramatica. They just... don't match. Viewers will never be focused on mood if sudden random boob grab kind of thing comes up during the emergency. It is just pain to watch.

Beside, this last episode was not good, because it was practically only one episode behind that all these 'War' thing actually broke out. For the past 9 wasted episodes, there was only a glimpse of war, but never actually made the mood or atmosphere looks like war; focusing more on slice of life aspect. There was some serious lack of development in this episode, everything sounded absurd and made less sense than anything. I can't do anything but laughing when town's people are screaming 'OMG WE DON'T WANT FREAKIN WAR GO AWAY!!!', or Rio come back and saying some cliched things. I mean, it's not supposed to be fun I know, but it's just... too hilarious and so out of anything.

I personally hate that tank. It is so out of circumstance. Trumpet communication + Past era spider tank fanciness = ???

This anime is... not that different from the failure of K-On for me...

In K-ON's defense, K-ON knew what it's being sold as: a comedy show of moe girls... and a bit of music here and there.That's why it was such a huge success. KyoAni played on the moe constantly. SoraWoto is just a pretentious moe show trying to be a war drama and completely falling short of it. But yes, everything SoraWoto did was by the book of cliches. Slice of life storyboard with a forced overly dramatic predictable ending.
Mar 23, 2010 9:52 AM
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garfield15 said:
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I guess the idea of an S2 pretty much flew away with that ending since everything was just about wrapped up.
Yeah, it would have been pretty sweet as to jump from Kanata's ignorant reality to a war-torn story, with the song to be used as a final attempt before more would have been lost in massive bloodshed.

This. I feel like ppl on MAL should contribute to the anime industry with our own plots lol. This anime could have been 10/10 if it went down this route. Take a naive teenager in a world already ruined by war and prove to him/her that war is ingrained in human nature. Take away all the moe and cheesy elements from earlier episodes and use that time to build better characters and a cultural background that was actually believable. Let us have sneakpeaks into some politics (optional). And when the piece talks turn into a mess and shit hits the fan show us a heroic but fruitless struggle to stop the bloodshed. The crew/ most of the crew dies. But this is another anime lol:/
Oh and more male characters. And some better VA. The production values were top-notch most of the time, i wish they'd actually used it on something worthy.

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In K-ON's defense, K-ON knew what it's being sold as: a comedy show of moe girls... and a bit of music here and there.That's why it was such a huge success. KyoAni played on the moe constantly. SoraWoto is just a pretentious moe show trying to be a war drama and completely falling short of it. But yes, everything SoraWoto did was by the book of cliches. Slice of life storyboard with a forced overly dramatic predictable ending.

And this.
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OMFG MUUUCH BE...

Actually, No. I hated that tank for being out of circumstance, not its appearance. If that tank was in the Avatar movie, I would definitely like it.

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Wasabi said:
In K-ON's defense, K-ON knew what it's being sold as: a comedy show of moe girls... and a bit of music here and there.That's why it was such a huge success. KyoAni played on the moe constantly. SoraWoto is just a pretentious moe show trying to be a war drama and completely falling short of it. But yes, everything SoraWoto did was by the book of cliches. Slice of life storyboard with a forced overly dramatic predictable ending.
Yeah you are right. Although I hate K-On for various reasons, it's better to be focus on one thing than trying to 'attempt' something completely different out of it.
Mar 23, 2010 10:19 AM

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10/10

haters can suck it and make their own anime for fucks sake.

Mar 23, 2010 10:29 AM

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haters can suck it and make their own anime for fucks sake.
Thank you for the cool flawed logics. :)

Mar 23, 2010 10:45 AM

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MisterSaito said:
10/10

haters can suck it and make their own anime for fucks sake.

Rofl I am not hater but who wants to do season 2 of this? Oh wait we need money for that so it won't be possible. I do suggest we start with Rio being either exiled as lying to the Emperor or killed...everyone else is more grown up and serious. Yeah that's a good start.

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Mar 23, 2010 11:02 AM

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I shed tears in this ep, it was really beautiful and I'm glad I sticked with it till the end.
Mar 23, 2010 11:09 AM

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10/10

haters can suck it and make their own anime for fucks sake.
No. You suck it.
Mar 23, 2010 11:19 AM

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lol
oh I'm amazed of how moderation on this forum does not exist :D

Yes we all know that it could be much beater... But no reason to be hateful :D
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Mar 23, 2010 11:23 AM

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oh I'm amazed of how moderation on this forum does not exist :D
Dude, that thing is properly censored so I guess it's ok. Maybe...
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Maximatum99 said:
MisterSaito said:
10/10

haters can suck it and make their own anime for fucks sake.
No. You suck it.
Now let's all rejoice at least we have victory here and peace...you can do the spoiler thing once you find a girl back at around your place:

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Mar 23, 2010 12:27 PM

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Maximatum99 said:
RinM said:
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oh I'm amazed of how moderation on this forum does not exist :D
Dude, that thing is properly censored so I guess it's ok. Maybe...


rofl
Noup...It is still not ok...
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Mar 23, 2010 12:35 PM

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RinM said:
Maximatum99 said:
RinM said:
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oh I'm amazed of how moderation on this forum does not exist :D
Dude, that thing is properly censored so I guess it's ok. Maybe...


rofl
Noup...It is still not ok...
By the rules yes it is and I saw worst around here but of course they are censored like that.....personally I prefer 3D real but whatever.

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Mar 23, 2010 12:51 PM

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Well it is not so unexpected that it is allowed by the rules. It really seems this sight is not moderated at all. But it is really sad though.
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Mar 23, 2010 1:04 PM

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Ignoring the 10 episodes of filler, the last 2 were actually pretty good.

Also hate it when japanese people try to speak german.

Mar 23, 2010 1:34 PM

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So... what did they say this show was? War, drama, slice of life or just a moeblob? It should've focused on one genre and then it would be way better. Not saying that it was worthless, giving it a 7 for the wonderful art, music etc, but it surely didn't have the right flow.
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I forgot to ask, but is Rio considered used goods now?
Mar 23, 2010 3:18 PM
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I liked it.
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Mar 23, 2010 3:27 PM

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I forgot to ask, but is Rio considered used goods now?
Unfortunately yes but not as of yet since she is only fiancee.....I take this Emperor guy tends to like his wife virgin.

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Mar 23, 2010 3:53 PM

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L-A-M-E

I'm in awe of a lot of the scores this show is getting. The show was successful at very little, and Kanata heard a trumpet from miles away. The way music was portrayed in this show is downright laughable, and borderline offensive to anyone who's ever played an instrument. But honestly, I let all that slide when she learned to play the cornet not from her teacher, but from a random glass blower.

Nothing about this show felt authentic, organic, plausible, or fresh. Everything was trite, banal, over-used, and cliched. If you want thrilling atmosphere and beautiful art direction, I could come up with 10 series off the top of my head that are far better while actually having content to keep the ride entertaining.

Bleh.

4/10
Mar 23, 2010 4:43 PM
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Nothing about this show felt authentic, organic, plausible, or fresh.


Go figure that this show was the most popular with the Japanese fanbase, and will probably outsell everything else from the winter season. Gotta love design by commitee anime.
Mar 23, 2010 4:51 PM

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It doesn't surprise me at all. Look at all the people in this discussion who excuse everything that went wrong and call it 'great' or 'excellent.'
Mar 23, 2010 6:11 PM

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It was okay...
Now I need to play the PSP game for more moe.
Mar 23, 2010 6:24 PM

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MisterSaito said:
10/10

haters can suck it and make their own anime for fucks sake.

Rofl I am not hater but who wants to do season 2 of this? Oh wait we need money for that so it won't be possible. I do suggest we start with Rio being either exiled as lying to the Emperor or killed...everyone else is more grown up and serious. Yeah that's a good start.
Personally I would give this one a Straight 10, yet in some circumtances they screwed up. That's why it ended into 8.

It may not the best for me but I like it. I recommended this one to watch.

@ francismeunier
EXILED!!!That's nice, I wish that could be happened and they would appeared to be grown up.

I'd LOL'ed at the part when people trying to protect 1121 Platoon and Kanata
Boy: "She's not even sexy." :DD

But I seems the they close up the curtain now.
Mar 23, 2010 6:41 PM

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That felt like a waste of time to me. Sure there were some enjoyable moments, but it didn't really flow well as a series. Thus my low rating ...maybe it's not low enough?

6/10
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Marow said:
So... what did they say this show was? War, drama, slice of life or just a moeblob? It should've focused on one genre and then it would be way better. Not saying that it was worthless, giving it a 7 for the wonderful art, music etc, but it surely didn't have the right flow.


exactly the way I felt, they should have focused on one genre, bringing up war in the last two episodes was kinda ridiculous concerning the myriads of dull slice of life episodes before which didn't even give me the impression of getting to know anyone of the main cast any better...-.-

still, a nice presentation in art and music plus a handful of enjoyable episodes, 7/10 it is.
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to me this is just the kind of anime that you watch to kill some time. watching it didn't hurt, but it wasn't that rewarding or exciting either... I wouldn't recommend this anime to anyone, there are other good ones out there to be recommended. was it a waste of time? I'd be lying if I say yes, afterall I watched the whole thing. the fact that it could keep me on watching it till the end, I'm gonna give it a 6. and +1 for take-mikazuchi and the sweet ending making it 7. ending was predictable (in a good way), well some predictable events aren't always bad. I can't imagine all the characters dying at the end cuz that's just messed up. decent anime, good to watch in my lazy time, the anime didn't aim up high, well it's a slice of life show, what can I say...
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I thought it was a great watch, just wish that it didn't have all the moe stuff in it. That's what dragged it down. But I still enjoyed this more than K-On!! as it at least attempted to be different.
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