| I've noticed MAL has started to ask users to disable adblock in the ad placeholders. Adblocking comes with many benefits, including: faster loading times, smaller data usage (really important when you have data caps), no distractions, smaller risks of malware infection. On the other hand it's definitely harmful for website owners/content creators. What's your stance on it? Also which extension you use (uBO masterrace). |
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| I stopped using adblock some months ago, I want to support MAL by letting the ads show. |
| It's not really that harmful to websites because I can't imagine they make that much money off ads. And if they need that much money, donations would be the way to go imo. It's 2016, we shouldn't have ads. At least not in the obnoxious ways we do. Fuck 'em, and fuck any site that doesn't let you browse it without some kind of ad blocking extension. I do understand asking people to turn off AdBlock and that's shit but it's still leagues better than going "nah you can't look at anything unless you enable ads and potentially fuck up your internet/computer lol". |
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Zazie122 said: It's not really that harmful to websites because I can't imagine they make that much money off ads. And if they need that much money, donations would be the way to go imo. It's 2016, we shouldn't have ads. At least not in the obnoxious ways we do. Fuck 'em, and fuck any site that doesn't let you browse it without some kind of ad blocking extension. I do understand asking people to turn off AdBlock and that's shit but it's still leagues better than going "nah you can't look at anything unless you enable ads and potentially fuck up your internet/computer lol". They do make quite a nice amount of money of ads. CPM is what measures the cost per 1000 ad views the estimate for a CPM is average 10 USD. Having 4 ads up and thousands of people visiting each day, with simple math you quickly realize that it can add up to quite a nice buck. I do not know what CPM MAL has but id imagine it being close to 10. There is huge money in AdSense, link trading etc. More-so that you would imagine. If not for ads, you would need some kind of subscription to run a site of this magnitude for sure. Having said that, i don't mind ads as long as they stay static as well as relevant. |
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| It's not immoral as long as there are ads that can be harmful to your PC or device exist. |
| Regardless of whether it is or not, I'm going to keep doing it anyway |
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| @Plutie: Ah, gotcha. I know Google ads can bring in quite a bit but that makes sense to me because it's tied to Google (well, in some way at least). I figured you could actually make money off ads (otherwise nobody would do it), but given the prevalence of AdBlock and the like nowadays it just seems like you wouldn't make as much. Still enough to have ads, of course. |
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| It's immoral to shove intrusive and annoying ads down your throats. |
| I pay money to connect to the internet. Forcing me to look at terrible ads and putting me behind paywalls is hardly what I signed up for. |
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| Nope. Ads often contain malware and if the advertising hosting company (or whatever the fuck distributes the ads) can't be arsed to clean their crap up then we shouldn't even be asked to open ourselves to vulnerabilities. And I'm not even gonna dive into just the sheer obtrusiveness of video, flashing-light, and audible ads. Maybe 1 day I'll consider turning off Adblock when I am guaranteed nothing more than static-image ads. Until then, ads can kindly fuck off. |
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| I keep it off on MAL but for the most part I keep it on. Intrusive popup ads are dumb and leads to problems which is the reason as to why I keep it on for the most part. I was once on my pc (never watch porn and no one does on my pc) ad pops up for some porn site and my mom walked in at that same moment. ( I was on a page for gardening tips) Took a lot of explaining. To avoid situations like that, I use adblock. (Sorry if this doesn't make much sense. I am tired and saw this post before going to bed.) |
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| Oh yeah I meant to write a lengthy post about this but I don't feel like it anymore. Moral of the story that you don't get to read: Advertising companies found more intrusive ways to try and turn a profit. They went from the realm of acceptable to unacceptable, and so consumers found their own solution. Companies should and will have to earn our trust back before we're willing to deal with them again, and if they're never afforded an opportunity to earn that trust back then they'll just have to deal with it, and that opportunity isn't gained from telling us we have to turn our ad-block off. |
| Nope because some of them have little girls doing questionable things, it's actually immoral to not adblock them :^) |
| i use AdBlock here on MAL but usually the users of this site are computer literate or nerds that knows and use AdBlock so the profit is decreasing for them donations will not give them more profit than ads too, MAL is a business so it needs profit, but doing both donations and minimal number of Ads can make a balance so im hoping MAL will consider that i will disable AdBlock for MAL once the Ads here are just static images/texts so that it will not hang my weak old computer that much |
| No it isn't. I've seen a couple of ads that I wish I've never seen. So ad block stays on for me. |
| "It's not like I wanted a signature or anything...BAKA!" - A MAL user. |
| MAL's ads are awful. I've gotten more than 1 popup from this fuckin site when I tried whitelisting them. As a result, they get uBlocked. |
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| No, it's not "immoral". MAL decided to be free to use, that's its own problem. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Yes! Watching the hentai shown in the ads are way more moral than blocking ads! |
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| No The only one that's being immoral here is MAL who's trying to force me to view hardcore shota loli porn ads (that most likely are illegal here in Sweden, or the sites they lead to are at least) |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| I joined in 2013 and didn't adblock MAL until the beginning of this year, when suddenly for lots of peoples extremely explicit porn ads started to pop up, and with those various malware as well. Nope, sorry, but website that allows that kind of ads are not to be whitelisted. We created a thread on support board, still took a good while to be fixed (enough for me to be forced to use adblock) and then -mysteriously- the thread was deleted too. There's probably an explanation to that last part, but anyway, a website that want to be whitelisted for ads should try first to only have SFW ads and more importantly even, safe for your COMPUTER ads. |
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Comic_Sans said: But you LOVE MyAnimeList, so you should take it in the butt in for us so we can get revenue from adsNo The only one that's being immoral here is MAL who's trying to force me to view hardcore shota loli porn ads (that most likely are illegal here in Sweden, or the sites they lead to are at least) |
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Syrup- said: You mean like the swimsuit lolis in that "underaged girls in swimsuits getting analed by a bunch of underaged boys in swimsuits" ad?Comic_Sans said: But you LOVE MyAnimeList, so you should take it in the butt in for us so we can get revenue from adsNo The only one that's being immoral here is MAL who's trying to force me to view hardcore shota loli porn ads (that most likely are illegal here in Sweden, or the sites they lead to are at least) FUCK YES |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: They get their pussies filled, not their asses.Syrup- said: You mean like the swimsuit lolis in that "underaged girls in swimsuits getting analed by a bunch of underaged boys in swimsuits" ad?But you LOVE MyAnimeList, so you should take it in the butt in for us so we can get revenue from ads FUCK YES I know since I have the doujinshi saved. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Comic_Sans said: Syrup- said: You mean like the swimsuit lolis in that "underaged girls in swimsuits getting analed by a bunch of underaged boys in swimsuits" ad?But you LOVE MyAnimeList, so you should take it in the butt in for us so we can get revenue from ads FUCK YES Oh god, people can be arrested for that shit in Canada. |
Immahnoob said: Lol okComic_Sans said: They get their pussies filled, not their asses.You mean like the swimsuit lolis in that "underaged girls in swimsuits getting analed by a bunch of underaged boys in swimsuits" ad? FUCK YES I know since I have the doujinshi saved. hoopla123 said: Yeah, I know, people can be arrested for that kind of shit here in Sweden as wellComic_Sans said: You mean like the swimsuit lolis in that "underaged girls in swimsuits getting analed by a bunch of underaged boys in swimsuits" ad? FUCK YES Oh god, people can be arrested for that shit in Canada. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangamålet https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/시몬_룬드스트룀 |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| by the way if anybody wants to remove the placeholder elements on mal (and other websites), you can install this userscript and add this filterlist to your adblocking extension. |
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| When you get ads that constantly open up pop-ups that flood your screen and fuck up your RAM? Nope. |
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Comic_Sans said: Immahnoob said: Lol okYeah, I know, people can be arrested for that kind of shit here in Sweden as wellThey get their pussies filled, not their asses. I know since I have the doujinshi saved. https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangamålet https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/시몬_룬드스트룀 That's some fucked up shit. And lol the second link is in Korean for me for some reason. Good thing I have adblock on at all times. |
hoopla123 said: YesComic_Sans said: Lol okYeah, I know, people can be arrested for that kind of shit here in Sweden as well https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangamålet https://ko.wikipedia.org/wiki/시몬_룬드스트룀 That's some fucked up shit. And lol the second link is in Korean for me for some reason. I thought you knew Korean?Good thing I have adblock on at all times. Yes |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| They won't arrest you for the ads MAL is showing you, @Comic_Sans. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| Okay, but what if I end up clicking on one of them by accident? |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: Yes And lol the second link is in Korean for me for some reason. I thought you knew Korean?Good thing I have adblock on at all times. YesI do. I just didn't think that you'd link a Korean wiki article lel. You can read Korean fam? |
Comic_Sans said: Then the police will erupt through your door and you'll get shot. Okay, but what if I end up clicking on one of them by accident? The law takes into consideration that you can mistakenly click on ads or sites that might not be safe for work or safe for the law. And actually, LOOKING at this material online is not actually covered by the law, but if you possess it, yes, you can be prosecuted. Also, unless someone reports you, you could even save loli porn if you so desire. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
Immahnoob said: i don't understand the appeal of having physical copies of cartoon pornComic_Sans said: Then the police will erupt through your door and you'll get shot. Okay, but what if I end up clicking on one of them by accident? The law takes into consideration that you can mistakenly click on ads or sites that might not be safe for work or safe for the law. And actually, LOOKING at this material online is not actually covered by the law, but if you possess it, yes, you can be prosecuted. Also, unless someone reports you, you could even save loli porn if you so desire. |
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hoopla123 said: Not at allComic_Sans said: YesI thought you knew Korean?Yes I do. I just didn't think that you'd link a Korean wiki article lel. You can read Korean fam? Immahnoob said: Ok, I wasn't planning to but thanks anywayComic_Sans said: Then the police will erupt through your door and you'll get shot. Okay, but what if I end up clicking on one of them by accident? The law takes into consideration that you can mistakenly click on ads or sites that might not be safe for work or safe for the law. And actually, LOOKING at this material online is not actually covered by the law, but if you possess it, yes, you can be prosecuted. Also, unless someone reports you, you could even save loli porn if you so desire. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
hoopla123 said: I thought it was more of a 'look don't touch' sort of thing. As in, if you're caught with it on your PC you're fucked.Comic_Sans said: You mean like the swimsuit lolis in that "underaged girls in swimsuits getting analed by a bunch of underaged boys in swimsuits" ad? FUCK YES Oh god, people can be arrested for that shit in Canada. |
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| @Qatami I meant saving digitally. Also @hoopla123, they're trying (or maybe it already passed) to make a law against not using someone's specific pronouns in Canada or just plain "anti-transgender speech". This can get you in jail for max 2 years. |
Play League of Legends here! Autocrat said: Hitler was good, objectively. |
| honestly, yes it is but sometime no it is not |
Syrup- said: I thought it was more of a 'look don't touch' sort of thing. As in, if you're caught with it on your PC you're fucked. Well I'm not too sure but it doesn't really matter for me regardless since I'm not into loli hentai. Immahnoob said: @Qatami I meant saving digitally. Also @hoopla123, they're trying (or maybe it already passed) to make a law against not using someone's specific pronouns in Canada or just plain "anti-transgender speech". This can get you in jail for max 2 years. Good thing I don't use tumblr or post on a lot of social media that I do use. |
| It definitely isn't. My computer isn't exactly high-end so I really don't have a choice in the matter. |
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| Not at all. MAL can go screw itself. |
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| Personally I don't care what they put on the perimeter of the page. And I appreciate that while the content they are advertising may be explicit, at least the ads are not (the ones I've seen anyway). A lot of sigs are more explicit than the pics in the ads. But there was a specific ad for a while that would always auto scroll my browser to the bottom of the page. Switched on adblock for that one. |
| No it's not. That's like saying it is immoral to fast forward through the ads on a TV show you have recorded. |
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| No, it's a preference. I don't use it especially on video streaming videos they're so annoying but on MAL, it's fine I guess it helps them going. But I use adblocker on any site really! :D And I use ABP. |
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| While using ad-block won't destroyed the world I don't really like using it. Free Sites need ads to get money just like how TV needs ads to work, the thing is in past most people in America picked up Free TV signals with antennas but most people use some sort of cable service now. Cable TV used to not have ads when it started out but over the years most cable channels got just as many ads has the local channel except for channels like HBO, Encore, Starz, Showtime etc. The thing about those channels though s that you usually need to pay a lot to get most of them and there are some websites out there that let you pay to be ad-free like Youtube Red and Crunchy Roll Premium for example. The thing about TV is you can fast forward the ads and everybody does that has a DVR. If I'm listening to the radio in my car and an ad comes on I just put on my own music or switch the channel. If my dad is watching Live TV he will actuelly channel sure when his show goes to commercials (and he sometimes gets back to the after the commercials end, it's irritating watching things with him sometimes) I default have Ad Block on because I forget to disable it on certain sites but If I use a site enough I usually disable Ad-Block on it if the ads aren't too annoying. I don't use Ad-Block on Youtube as I heard that Youtubers you watch don't get paid for your view if you ad-block them and Youtube needs tons of money to work and be free. I don't want to half to pay all of the websites that I visit. I finally installed Ad-Block because I was watching Durarara free off Crunchyroll and the ads were getting super irritating because they were long and they would play the same ad three times during a break sometimes and I probably saw the same ad 20 times while watching the show before I was finally so sick of it that I installed Ad-Block, Youtube is boader line for me, I hate those unskippable 30 second video ads they do but it's just at the boarder for me turning ad-block on on there site right now. Then sometimes ads have viruses and stuff, even on official sites like Youtube I see unofficial Pokemon Flash game advertisements on the site and stuff and wonder if they are virus filled. I can usually removed viruses form my computers but it's stupid to not be careful in the first place. I never click on ads anyway, I guess they still make money but they don't make me want to buy something, I saw the same ad on Crunchyroll so many times it makes me not want to buy the product however I almost always bought the competing brand anyway. The last product I bought from seeing an ad was some gum I saw in a TV commercial and everybody in the commercial acted like the gum was the best thing ever created and I tried the gum and it literally lost its flavor in three seconds and I never bought that gum again. This was over half a decade ago. Also theirs some websites out there that throw ads all over the screen and you half t close them (if possible) to even use the website. I hate it when I'm on mobile and and ad comes up on a site not optimized for mobile and it glitches the whole page up and makes it literally unusable on mobile. Also I hate it when the video ads on Youtube freeze up and I can't watch the video, then I half to reload the page to get it to work and it often makes me re-watch the ad. I also hate the video ads that will start blasting audio, MyAnimeList actuelly started doing that for a while and the audio was irritating especially if I was trying to listen to a song so I started ad-blocking them. I quit ad-blocking them a few days ago and so far I haven't come across any video ads blasting audio so I still currently have it off on this site. Also most ads don't even apply to me, I don't care about the latest celebrity news, I can't afford a new car even if I wanted one, I don't care to see this unfunny looking comedy movie you keep showing me trailers for etc. The only kind of ads I like are trailers for new games and movies That I'm interested in and I usally don't care to watch those same ads again after I've already watched them. I only really approve of ad block if the ads are malicious or extremely annoying but I don't think that people who use it are horrible people. I use it I just white list most websites that I like when using it if there ads are decent. Also unless its a game or movie ads never make me want to buy something, even if it is a game or movie unless its a franchise that I already like then I will research it without or without the trailer. if it's something I'm really interested in I've usually heard about it long before the first trailer is even out anyway. |
Riptos said: I concurThat's like saying it is immoral to fast forward through the ads on a TV show you have recorded. Actually, I've never understood why Online Advertisers only pay if the Ads aren't blocked. TV or Radio Station Commercials as well as Newspapers Ads still pay regardless of whether or not the People actually view them. Promotional Pamphlets are getting paid regardless of whether all manage to find their Ways to different Users or land in the (Paper) Trash Can. Those Types of Ads also have the Advantage that they can't spread Malware or track People. So why should anyone have to take that Risk with online Ads? Why can't there be Still Images that don't put anyone at Risk and won't track People? |
| I can think about 15 other things are more immortal than blocking ads on the computer. |
| Honestly I don't think it's immoral. We have the choice to do what we want with our browsers. |
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