Imo , I think a good amount of characters who smoke give a better sight for me but still It depends on the character himself I guess..  |
Nanami0007May 18, 2016 2:24 AM
| No. It is just some added info for me to remember a character. But other than that, nothing. |
| I think it's more about how it's implemented I guess? For example, in Subete Ga F Naru, Saikawa kept smoking non stop, I bet there wasn't a single episode where he didn't hold a cigarette. In one way, it gave him a personality where he himself mentioned he smokes because he doesn't care for his life. Then again, in the highly acclaimed Rakugo we saw the artists smoke long pipes as in the Showa era which was a neat touch. |
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| Yes, in the looks at least. It's a stylish complement that has been known and used in visual narration for a long time, not exclusive to anime at all. Relevant: |
| No, unless they smoke like Sakamoto does. |
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| Normally doesn't matter, but it is a nice touch to a character design sometimes. And can carry messages, for example, Kiritsugu from Fate/Zero smoking, because he picked it up from Natalia. |
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| Well not always. It does make them stand out sometimes as in this is the character that smokes. Recent character that I saw smoking is that Black Lizard commander in Bungou Stray Dogs. |
Shishou_23May 18, 2016 7:44 AM
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| While the smoking factor can add badassery to characters, hoe badass a character is depends of how the character is. Smoking can make him/her look cool, but only in appearence. |
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| No. It's just an added touch to their personality. I've long grew out of the "smoking is cool!!11" phase - well, not that I ever bought into it in the first place. |
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| I think it depends on the character. For example you can't give a cigarette to an adorable kid in the series, it won't fit! |
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| If it wasn't Spike or Hijikata it won't matter. Because it's a part of their character and uk charisma. |
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smoking? you mean eating lolipops right |
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| Watching them smoke from a certain angle does make them look cool, but that doesn't necessarily make them overall cool. |
HAHAHAHAHA! That is so damn great!! |
| Hey, mister. I am mad scientist smoker. It's so cool. Sonuvabitch! |
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| It's pretty stupid if you ask me and it just glorifies smoking which is a bad thing to do and the more ''cool'' characters smoke the more kids that see those characters want to shove a cigarette into their mouth to feel the same. It's one of the dumbest traits. |
idk why I was here but I'm prob back to playing Dragon's Dogma 2 again when you read this |
| Everyone knows taking a long drag on a smoke is the coolest way to punctuate an uncomfortable silence. Pyrrhussieg said: It's pretty stupid if you ask me and it just glorifies smoking which is a bad thing to do and the more ''cool'' characters smoke the more kids that see those characters want to shove a cigarette into their mouth to feel the same. It's one of the dumbest traits. Come on get real, no kid has ever seen someone smoking on TV and said "I think I'll go smoke now" that's a tired old argument parents made in the 90's which has been shown to hold no water time and time again. |
Bobby2HandsMay 18, 2016 4:01 AM
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Bobby2Hands said: Everyone knows taking a long drag on a smoke is the coolest way to punctuate an uncomfortable silence. Pyrrhussieg said: It's pretty stupid if you ask me and it just glorifies smoking which is a bad thing to do and the more ''cool'' characters smoke the more kids that see those characters want to shove a cigarette into their mouth to feel the same. It's one of the dumbest traits. Come on get real, no kid has ever seen someone smoking on TV and said "I think I'll go smoke now" that's a tired old argument parents made in the 90's which has been shown to hold no water time and time again. If you think what media glorifies has no influence on people and society then you have been living under a rock. But I guess it's so edgy that we'll have to excuse it one way or another. |
idk why I was here but I'm prob back to playing Dragon's Dogma 2 again when you read this |
Pyrrhussieg said: Bobby2Hands said: Everyone knows taking a long drag on a smoke is the coolest way to punctuate an uncomfortable silence. Come on get real, no kid has ever seen someone smoking on TV and said "I think I'll go smoke now" that's a tired old argument parents made in the 90's which has been shown to hold no water time and time again. If you think what media glorifies has no influence on people and society then you have been living under a rock. But I guess it's so edgy that we'll have to excuse it one way or another. 80 years of comic book superheroes and you hardly ever see kids putting on costumes and fighting crime. Maybe all the fighting should be edited out of Naruto and DBZ so kids don't see people fighting an copy it?...no that's ridiculous? and so is the smoking argument. |
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| Meh. Maybe a little bit if the character happens to be a female.. |
| yeah of course, lung cancer is kewl! |
GriedSatzvin said: No, unless they smoke like Sakamoto does. Sakamoto doesn't just smoke it, he BLAZES it. |
 In the case of Reki from Haibane Renmei is part of her background. Since you smoke to relax, smoking shows that you are in tension, for whatever reason it may be. She's has a problem in her series, and eventually she stops smoking when she gets peace of mind. My guess is that the same thign can be applied to Stein from Soul Eater. |
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| No. especially when they shouldn't be cool to begin with (Fruits Basket, for example) |
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| It makes female character a bitch, because only bitch smoke. |
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Bobby2Hands said: Pyrrhussieg said: If you think what media glorifies has no influence on people and society then you have been living under a rock. But I guess it's so edgy that we'll have to excuse it one way or another. 80 years of comic book superheroes and you hardly ever see kids putting on costumes and fighting crime. Maybe all the fighting should be edited out of Naruto and DBZ so kids don't see people fighting an copy it?...no that's ridiculous? and so is the smoking argument. Then explain why Korea is a country that is strictly against smoking without it being illegal. They do the opposite of glorifying it, often they will state in their media that's it's a disgusting thing to do. But if you want to use ridiculous examples, go ahead, be my guest. And btw DBZ is used to be copied by kids all the time, me included, and it was violent. |
idk why I was here but I'm prob back to playing Dragon's Dogma 2 again when you read this |
Pyrrhussieg said: Bobby2Hands said: 80 years of comic book superheroes and you hardly ever see kids putting on costumes and fighting crime. Maybe all the fighting should be edited out of Naruto and DBZ so kids don't see people fighting an copy it?...no that's ridiculous? and so is the smoking argument. Then explain why Korea is a country that is strictly against smoking without it being illegal. They do the opposite of glorifying it, often they will state in their media that's it's a disgusting thing to do. But if you want to use ridiculous examples, go ahead, be my guest. And btw DBZ is used to be copied by kids all the time, me included, and it was violent. True that. We were emulating battles and throwing fictitious kamehamehas all the time when DBZ was airing over here. |
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Pyrrhussieg said: Bobby2Hands said: 80 years of comic book superheroes and you hardly ever see kids putting on costumes and fighting crime. Maybe all the fighting should be edited out of Naruto and DBZ so kids don't see people fighting an copy it?...no that's ridiculous? and so is the smoking argument. Then explain why Korea is a country that is strictly against smoking without it being illegal. They do the opposite of glorifying it, often they will state in their media that's it's a disgusting thing to do. But if you want to use ridiculous examples, go ahead, be my guest. And btw DBZ is used to be copied by kids all the time, me included, and it was violent. When the hell is smoking ever "glorified" in children's media? The world doesn't need this busy-body-won't-somebody-please-think-of-the-children mentality. This is the same crap that got Spielberg to replace the guns in ET with walkie talkies. And Rock Lee in Naruto gets drunk all the time, did you kids go out and start chugging sake after watching that? |
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Yeah he is definitely cool. Cooler than sakamoto. |
| Yes, it enhances the pure "no fucks given badass" vibe. That goes for the lung cancer as well but that's another story, who cares they're chinese cartoons anyway. I mean c'mon there's nothing more GAR than seeing someone take a smoke after a huge fight or right before kicking someone's ass |
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| It does in my personal preference at least. Though, the smoking characters that I truly like concurrently with this cool looking vibe in their appearance from this smoking factor has been given by usually have interesting personality as well. |
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| Onii-sama doesn't smoke. So point dismissed! |
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Bobby2Hands said: Pyrrhussieg said: Then explain why Korea is a country that is strictly against smoking without it being illegal. They do the opposite of glorifying it, often they will state in their media that's it's a disgusting thing to do. But if you want to use ridiculous examples, go ahead, be my guest. And btw DBZ is used to be copied by kids all the time, me included, and it was violent. When the hell is smoking ever "glorified" in children's media? The world doesn't need this busy-body-won't-somebody-please-think-of-the-children mentality. This is the same crap that got Spielberg to replace the guns in ET with walkie talkies. And Rock Lee in Naruto gets drunk all the time, did you kids go out and start chugging sake after watching that? I see you're avoiding my question, then there's no point in having a discussion. Glorifying means giving one of the most popular and coolest and usually most badass character a cigarette. Children work like that, they see something frequently and unconsciously follow that example. This doesn't just go for children, like I said, you must be living under a rock to ignore all the issues society has because of media represantation and standards it creates. And don't tell me children don't watch shows like Gintama and One Piece. |
MeleMay 18, 2016 8:09 AM
idk why I was here but I'm prob back to playing Dragon's Dogma 2 again when you read this |
| Not really, although it complements some characters' looks. |
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| It doesn't make them cool. That thinking is so 20+ years ago, really. |
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| It has to be in a right character for it to look cool though. For instance, detectives that smokes, i think it complements their character. |
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Pyrrhussieg said: Bobby2Hands said: When the hell is smoking ever "glorified" in children's media? The world doesn't need this busy-body-won't-somebody-please-think-of-the-children mentality. This is the same crap that got Spielberg to replace the guns in ET with walkie talkies. And Rock Lee in Naruto gets drunk all the time, did you kids go out and start chugging sake after watching that? I see you're avoiding my question, then there's no point in having a discussion. Glorifying means giving one of the most popular and coolest and usually most badass character a cigarette. Children work like that, they see something frequently and unconsciously follow that example. This doesn't just go for children, like I said, you must be living under a rock to ignore all the issues society has because of media represantation and standards it creates. And don't tell me children don't watch shows like Gintama and One Piece. 1. Avoiding your question? you didn't ask a question. Seriously go back and read what you just wrote. There isn't a single question mark in there, let alone even an implied question. 2. Again, Rock Lee gets drunk all the time, he is a badass cool character who kids are meant to like. Isn't he setting a bad example? aren't kids going to copy it? 3. I really don't get why violence and alcohol are ok with you but smoking is where you draw the line. |
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| Sometimes it makes them cool and other times it makes them look pretentious. |
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| I'm trying to think of a case in anime where the character that was smoking is like... Not the 'cool' character. Not good, or evil mind you, but just not cool. I'm wondering if animators/producers have a bias towards having characters that smoke be level headed. Thoughts? |
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Bobby2Hands said: Pyrrhussieg said: I see you're avoiding my question, then there's no point in having a discussion. Glorifying means giving one of the most popular and coolest and usually most badass character a cigarette. Children work like that, they see something frequently and unconsciously follow that example. This doesn't just go for children, like I said, you must be living under a rock to ignore all the issues society has because of media represantation and standards it creates. And don't tell me children don't watch shows like Gintama and One Piece. 1. Avoiding your question? you didn't ask a question. Seriously go back and read what you just wrote. There isn't a single question mark in there, let alone even an implied question. 2. Again, Rock Lee gets drunk all the time, he is a badass cool character who kids are meant to like. Isn't he setting a bad example? aren't kids going to copy it? 3. I really don't get why violence and alcohol are ok with you but smoking is where you draw the line. If I remember correctly Rock Lee getting drunk has serious consequences and it's not necessarily represented as a good thing, if that's the case of course I'd have a problem with it, I never stated otheriwse. Since the topic is about characters that smoke I intended to talk about characters that smoke, that was the point. |
idk why I was here but I'm prob back to playing Dragon's Dogma 2 again when you read this |
| As others have said, it can paint a picture about the traits of a character or simply used for visual effect. Some characters simply look cool when they're smoking. But it's obviously not something that ever translates well into real life, similar to driving dangerously as a comedy gag. |
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Glaucus01 said: I'm trying to think of a case in anime where the character that was smoking is like... Not the 'cool' character. Not good, or evil mind you, but just not cool. I'm wondering if animators/producers have a bias towards having characters that smoke be level headed. Thoughts? Tatsuhiro Satou from Welcome to the NHK is a smoker and is never portrayed as a "cool" person. |
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Smoking is so overrated. I prefer Pocky. |
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| No and I truly don't understand what people find so alluring about smoking. What makes someone suddenly want to start smoking? They just cost you money and greatly increases your health risk. |
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