How do you feel about the immoral bits in hentais?
Caelidesu said: It's not impressive that their relationship seemed healthy after that because her character is written to fall in love with him after the rape. What's offensive about it is how that story arc implies that raping a girl in order to get her to stay with you or fall in love with you is in any way an okay thing to do, when in reality it's a morally bankrupt crime (and whether or not it might be effective doesn't matter at all). . Well, if you thought of such a thing after watching an animation, that says more about you than it does anyone else. :^) Violent videogames make killing seem more enjoyable than it actually would be in real life, that doesn't mean that the game is telling you that you should go out an kill people. |
| I have no qualms about anything in hentai really. Well with the exception of "raping someone only for them to go insane and love the continued rape scene then become love slaves to the instigator" that's a little odd. I think the chances of that are less than .01% but so are all scenarios in hentai- guess you can't really think of any of it logically. I mean I like ntr in hentai but can't stand it in anime. The reasoning for me is the characters in anime are more relatable/likeable whereas in hentai there isn't nothing but cartoon oppai, dicks, moaning and tons bodily fluids flying around. It's the same with rape as I find it mildly disturbing in anime but hentai I don't really think about it-I'd say its because the hentai rape has no real consequences or the show is over in one episode. In anime you have to deal with that thought for 10-25 episodes OT But... |
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Lobinde said: Caelidesu said: It's not impressive that their relationship seemed healthy after that because her character is written to fall in love with him after the rape. What's offensive about it is how that story arc implies that raping a girl in order to get her to stay with you or fall in love with you is in any way an okay thing to do, when in reality it's a morally bankrupt crime (and whether or not it might be effective doesn't matter at all). . Well, if you thought of such a thing after watching an animation, that says more about you than it does anyone else. :^) Violent videogames make killing seem more enjoyable than it actually would be in real life, that doesn't mean that the game is telling you that you should go out an kill people. You've completely missed the point. For contrast, the rape scene in School Days is way more disturbing, but there's no implication that it's in any way an okay thing to do. Majikoi's Chris route acts like raping a girl is in some way a thing that's appropriate to do in certain circumstances. |
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| What is morality? they're so fucked up, so much desires, I can comment it in 1 sentence: 'Fucking busty little-sisters in public with tentacles.' But who cares - haven is close. Goodnight |
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| I don't avoid watching hentai because I find it immoral (though there are various common hentai fetishes that I dislike, e.g. rape, lolis and tentacles) I avoid hentai because yaoi is superior |
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Objurgo said: It's kinda of alarming just how much rape and other weird stuff is fetishised in hentai today.. Even when the characters are having a good time they say "Rape me more!!" Like what? That's probably a translation problem. They usually say "drive me crazier!". I used to think guys in hentai can come a whole lot. Then I saw Futabu, and I learned that the guys were pretty much normal. Also, I agree with you on "become a love slave to the instigator" part. That's just disturbing. |
| Art doesn't have an obligation to present morally perfect characters. But hentai is different than other genres of anime. It's not about creating meaning but instant sexual gratification. So it can explore all these fantasies freely. That's the thing though, they're fantasies. Hentai and porno lets us explore this immoral sexuality in a safe setting. People also do this stuff when they role-play. |
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| And tell ... who the fuck sets this "morality rules"? I can watch whatever i want.You see i actually like bdsm,bondage,incest,scat and so on hentai.Does it affect anyone? No. |
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| As long as it is fun to watch and a bit hardcore (otherwise it would not be fun) I'll love it. I mean that's why I watch hentai and like it better than normal porn: There is stuff possible that would not be possible in real porn - and no people are harmed because it are only drawn fictional characters. |
| I never would've thought that there would come a day where Hentai an Morality are in the same sentence. |
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| I don't know why would they bother adding "immoral" stuff in Hentai, but I think its due to Japanese history... Anyway, who wouldn't get turned-on in incest? I mean its the most wonderful fetish that existed.... |
| I think it is fine as long as you don't confuse fiction with reality. |
| did someone just asking morality, in fiction? |
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| I don't regard hentai as a moral statement. It's just entertainment. And, honestly, I don't any of us can try to take the moral high ground when in your average anime there's murder (sometimes rather gruesome, like in ReZero), drug addiction, war, and kids in, well, situations it'd unacceptable for them to be in in the real world, etc... |
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By immoral, I am here talking about incest (not the imouto-oniisama kind of incest, but much more sinister ones: those with mother, father, mother/father-in-law ones) Why are those kinds of incest "more sinister," though? From a genetic standpoint, brother-sister incest is worse than parent-child incest, as siblings have far more common genes than parents and children do -- in a parental incest situation, 50% of the child's genes will be from the parent they're not committing incest with. And mother/father-in-law, really? That's not even incest, that's just plain ol' cheating/adultery/NTR/whatever. |
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Zalis said: By immoral, I am here talking about incest (not the imouto-oniisama kind of incest, but much more sinister ones: those with mother, father, mother/father-in-law ones) Why are those kinds of incest "more sinister," though? From a genetic standpoint, brother-sister incest is worse than parent-child incest, as siblings have far more common genes than parents and children do -- in a parental incest situation, 50% of the child's genes will be from the parent they're not committing incest with. And mother/father-in-law, really? That's not even incest, that's just plain ol' cheating/adultery/NTR/whatever.These things are more about power dynamics than genetics. BatoKusanagi said: I don't regard hentai as a moral statement. It's just entertainment. And, honestly, I don't any of us can try to take the moral high ground when in your average anime there's murder (sometimes rather gruesome, like in ReZero), drug addiction, war, and kids in, well, situations it'd unacceptable for them to be in in the real world, etc... The way I see it: when you empathize with the characters, them getting into unpleasant situations gets in the way of "entertainment". Hentai also tends to lack relatable males - often enough they range from nondescript males (that may just as well be tentacle monsters, as they lack any traits except maleness) to uber-evil villains that break the "sexual fantasy" mood, and make it go to "somebody, kick his ass already!". As a result, I tend to empathize with the female lead. Who gets raped a whole lot. Which isn't much fun. Maybe I should watch less rape/BDSM/tentacle hentai. |
| To cater to peoples fetishes of course. It is not limited to hentai to have immortal things; it is in all media. Nothing weird about it. |
Caelidesu said: Lobinde said: Well, if you thought of such a thing after watching an animation, that says more about you than it does anyone else. :^) Violent videogames make killing seem more enjoyable than it actually would be in real life, that doesn't mean that the game is telling you that you should go out an kill people. You've completely missed the point. For contrast, the rape scene in School Days is way more disturbing, but there's no implication that it's in any way an okay thing to do. Majikoi's Chris route acts like raping a girl is in some way a thing that's appropriate to do in certain circumstances. This reminds me of how in Game of Thrones, a girl gets repeatedly raped until she falls in love with the rapist. We're then expected to feel bad when that rapist dies. Video games do make violence look like fun. The thing is, your relationship with the enemies is different. They're not powerless. They're not subjugated and you torture them for fun. Rather, they're obstacles you get rid of. Heartless? Yes, but different. |
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| incest between parent is fukced up it is not good. also all rape not good even tentalce. you are degenerate if u like it it is 1 of most disgustin thing to come out of japan and that saying some thing. |
Trapsoul said: incest between parent is fukced up it is not good. also all rape not good even tentalce. you are degenerate if u like it it is 1 of most disgustin thing to come out of japan and that saying some thing. I'll never understand the idea that enjoying something which is entirely fictional somehow makes one a degenerate. It is precisely because it is fiction that allows many people to enjoy it. Fiction allows you to explore absolutely anything; of course people are going to do so. |
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-Maz said: yes fictional but it is rape which is crime and the girl is in pain and crying if you have a fetish for that that person clearly have problem and have something lost in their brain that makes them normal person. liking any form of rape fictional or irl is not normal and therefore degenerate from societyTrapsoul said: incest between parent is fukced up it is not good. also all rape not good even tentalce. you are degenerate if u like it it is 1 of most disgustin thing to come out of japan and that saying some thing. I'll never understand the idea that enjoying something which is entirely fictional somehow makes one a degenerate. It is precisely because it is fiction that allows many people to enjoy it. Fiction allows you to explore absolutely anything; of course people are going to do so. |
Trapsoul said: -Maz said: yes fictional but it is rape which is crime and the girl is in pain and crying if you have a fetish for that that person clearly have problem and have something lost in their brain that makes them normal person. liking any form of rape fictional or irl is not normal and therefore degenerate from societyI'll never understand the idea that enjoying something which is entirely fictional somehow makes one a degenerate. It is precisely because it is fiction that allows many people to enjoy it. Fiction allows you to explore absolutely anything; of course people are going to do so. Some people like to be dominant or submissive. Not all people who watch rape are watching for the rape. It just happens that these kinds of titles show bdsm more successfully than say, vanilla. |
Trapsoul said: incest between parent is fukced up it is not good. also all rape not good even tentalce. you are degenerate if u like it it is 1 of most disgustin thing to come out of japan and that saying some thing. Rape victims sometimes have a rapeplay fetish. You just called rape victims degenerates. |
| Its a hentai, which is equivalent to porn, which shouldnt have a deep story or underlying message to begin with. If it did, I would be judging it as a movie/cartoon/anime/etc and then yes, I ave a problem with it... *stares at 50 Shades of Grey and Kiss x Sis |
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| Well some of us are immoral...so those people choose to watch immoral stuff. |
flannan said: The way I see it: when you empathize with the characters, them getting into unpleasant situations gets in the way of "entertainment". Hentai also tends to lack relatable males - often enough they range from nondescript males (that may just as well be tentacle monsters, as they lack any traits except maleness) to uber-evil villains that break the "sexual fantasy" mood, and make it go to "somebody, kick his ass already!". As a result, I tend to empathize with the female lead. Who gets raped a whole lot. Which isn't much fun. Well, depends how involved you get with the characters. Personally, I don't at all, so it's the opposite for me: sometimes I want to see how bad it can get for the characters. I'm not expecting (or needing, really) an engaging story/characters from a hentai. Maybe I should watch less rape/BDSM/tentacle hentai. Oh, but that's where the fun is :) |
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-Maz said: Trapsoul said: incest between parent is fukced up it is not good. also all rape not good even tentalce. you are degenerate if u like it it is 1 of most disgustin thing to come out of japan and that saying some thing. I'll never understand the idea that enjoying something which is entirely fictional somehow makes one a degenerate. It is precisely because it is fiction that allows many people to enjoy it. Fiction allows you to explore absolutely anything; of course people are going to do so. Exactly. I fantasize plenty of times about surprise sex, yet I doubt I'll enjoy it in reality. The 'fiction' aspect of it lets me focus on the sexy part without suffering the consequences. |
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| well i can handle almost all types of hentai except for gore,yaoi and maybe scat. Plus i don't like hentai's with bad animation,demons,tentacles,aliens etc. except that everything is okay for me. You must realize whatever is happening on the screen is just work of fiction. |
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