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Apr 20, 2016 9:43 PM
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So, I'm reading manga and watching anime as a 14 year old boy and I come to a realization.

I really like romance in my anime. I liked the romantic subplot of YuYu Hakusho. I watched Sailor Moon and enjoyed the whole Tuxedo Max and Usagi thing, and so I watch more.

Then I watch shows where the main aspect of the show is romance and they're REALLY hit or miss. Like holy shit, some are absolutely disgusting and others are... Amagami XD.

To be honest, I don't really like too many anime with no romantic subplot or romance I can't empathize with. I think it's why I liked Code Geass more than Gundam 00. I think it's why I liked Eureka 7 over Bounen no Xam'd, and I think I've found a balance for myself.

Still... I'm curious about you guys.

How much romance do you guys like in your anime? Do you guys like the romance being the primary focus? Do you guys not really care if there's none in there?

If there's a specific show that balanced the romance with the rest of the show extremely well please talk about it. For me Junketsu no Maria did it best.
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I like over the top romance if it's gay. It should be the main focus, and if it's straight gtfo

(Temmie's gay post of the day)
Apr 20, 2016 9:46 PM
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Yosuga is the only romance anime u will ever need
Apr 20, 2016 9:47 PM
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i like every level of romance as long as it well executed... i prefer diversity after all....
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Apr 20, 2016 9:48 PM
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Eureka 7 is a show where the main character needed 50 episodes to say "I like you". If you thing that is actually romance then... good for you.

50 episodes XD?

He said it halfway through the series. Also, it's good that he said it when he did, because she couldn't understand human interactions before he did. They were building up to the fact that she was starting to understand human emotions and that's when the confession came. It was the most akward and amazing confession ever, because her sudden awareness of him made him feel even more unwanted growing the distance between them... (especially since he immediately left the gekko-state)

Honestly yeah. Renton and Eureka did a better job with handling romance than most strictly romance anime.
Apr 20, 2016 9:49 PM
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I like a romance that actually goes somewhere, not just "M-My crush just glanced in my direction. Time to not approach them ever."
Apr 20, 2016 9:50 PM
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i like every level of romance as long as it well executed... i prefer diversity after all....

But generally speaking which do you tend to enjoy more?
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Protaku said:
I like a romance that actually goes somewhere, not just "M-My crush just glanced in my direction. Time to not approach them ever."

Does that happen? Like... ever? I can't think of any anime that does that.
Apr 20, 2016 9:56 PM
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TitanAnteus said:
Kuma said:
i like every level of romance as long as it well executed... i prefer diversity after all....

But generally speaking which do you tend to enjoy more?
it seriously also wide, i love some pure romance, but i also like when romance being sub plot. or even a series when romance is just like underdeveloped plot that become surprsiing pleasent. seriously, i don't really mind.
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I really dislike romance where the couple do every f*cking thing thinking in each other, like staring for minutes, thinking about how the other would think about something or how he would act, and stuff like that.

I like romance with problems. In fact, in a romance anime, I prefer when the couple is not together. It's better to see their struggle to be together, rather than seeing them just making out and talking love bullshit. It's like seeing a friend of mine dating some girl: it's cool for him and all, but I don''t need to see that, I really don't.

Wait that happens O_O

...

Am I not watching enough XD. The only anime I've seen where the show, just dwells on how perfect the main couple are is Ore Monogatari? Most of the time, the anime takes place in the time leading up to the couple forming, and that's when it ends.
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I really like the part from where they started interacting to the point where they officially becomes a couple because there's so much variables and diversity. This period is always interesting to watch unless the same shits (I'm too shy to confess/cockblocked) is repeated forever which is infinitely annoying, and the ship doesn't sail anywhere.

IMO, examples of good romance:
- Yamada x Shiraishi in Yamada-kun and the 7 Bitches
- Ryuji and Taiga in Toradora (although it was kinda over the top)
- Holo and Kraft Lawrence in Spice and Wolf

After that it's usually cheesy with the generic Ilu, I'll protect u, we'll always be together and stuffs that don't make sense, etc... whatever so I don't like romance beyond that point very much (although there are exceptions).

IMO, examples of bad romance (I'm gonna get my shit tossed for this):
- The infamous Kirito x Asuna
- Kousei x Kaori in YliA
- Goddam Nisekoi ships being anchored for 10000000 years
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I don't really care for romance all that much so I don't have specific preference. Long as it's well executed I'm fine with it. But romance isn't something I go out the way for a/o focus on in a series.

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IMO, examples of bad romance (I'm gonna get my shit tossed for this):
- The infamous Kirito x Asuna
- Kousei x Kaori in YliA
- Goddam Nisekoi ships being anchored for 10000000 years


... Well, I don't know the others. I definitely know Sword Art Online though, not sure what you could have against them but everyone has a right to a opinion. Everyone has a different view on things. As I said above, I don't focus on romance in a series so I don't really recall, but it's just kinda interesting you called them out, to me. I didn't imagine anyone disliking them. Like, I know my sister loves them but we don't discuss anime really so I don't know her overview on the subject.
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Temmie said:
I like over the top romance if it's gay. It should be the main focus, and if it's straight gtfo

(Temmie's gay post of the day)



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i think the best kind of romance is where it keeps you guessing
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Tentology said:
I really like the part from where they started interacting to the point where they officially becomes a couple because there's so much variables and diversity. This period is always interesting to watch unless the same shits (I'm too shy to confess/cockblocked) is repeated forever which is infinitely annoying, and the ship doesn't sail anywhere.

IMO, examples of good romance:
- Yamada x Shiraishi in Yamada-kun and the 7 Bitches
- Ryuji and Taiga in Toradora (although it was kinda over the top)
- Holo and Kraft Lawrence in Spice and Wolf

After that it's usually cheesy with the generic Ilu, I'll protect u, we'll always be together and stuffs that don't make sense, etc... whatever so I don't like romance beyond that point very much (although there are exceptions).

IMO, examples of bad romance (I'm gonna get my shit tossed for this):
- The infamous Kirito x Asuna
- Kousei x Kaori in YliA
- Goddam Nisekoi ships being anchored for 10000000 years


Yeah I agree with your examples of good romance.

I sort of agree with your bad examples too.

Kirito and Asuna were a great pair in Sword Art Online where they met. They actually complemented each other really well. Kirito the loner who didn't want to make connections with people because he was scared of them dying, and Asuna the zealous, inquisitive and strong heroine who definitely wouldn't die.

I think the writer messed up trying to turn that into a harem when he should've left well-enough alone.

Kousei and Kaori are only bad because Shigatsu messed up on the drama. Their personalities complement each other well but the situations that led them to be involved with each other were so forced and stupid that the payoff ended up being stupid.

Nisekoi burned a lot of people, but that's only because the author is scared. Go read any of her oneshots, or short mangas. Double Arts, Apple... literally everything this girl's tried to do has been fantastic but they're never financially succesful. Nisekoi is the least deserving of all the manga he's worked on, but it was successful and suffers from the longrunning train. It really should end.
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Generally I prefer shows that aren't romance-genre to not have big romantic subplots, but I feel I'm in the minority. I think... romance gets kinda shoved into everything, to the point where it's hard to find gen shows of genre I'm interested in, and I find it tiring.

However, if the romance is really done well and only adds to the story, I don't have a problem.
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RyanEsau said:
I don't really care for romance all that much so I don't have specific preference. Long as it's well executed I'm fine with it. But romance isn't something I go out the way for a/o focus on in a series.

I kinda get that.

Since it's practically everywhere there's no real reason to go looking for it.

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Temmie said:
I like over the top romance if it's gay. It should be the main focus, and if it's straight gtfo

(Temmie's gay post of the day)


creepy

i think the best kind of romance is where it keeps you guessing
eg: the colour of lovers, shuffle


I haven't seen the Colour of Lovers, but I don't think Shuffle was that good. It kept you guessing but not in a good way imo. It felt like it was just prolonging the ending. I liked the way Amagami handled the VN adaptation better.
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If there's no anal sex by the fifth episode then it's not for me.
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Romance with no awkwardness, kissing is no big deal and that has sex.That kind of romance barely exists in anime though.
Apr 20, 2016 10:16 PM

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KuuhakuDesu said:
TitanAnteus said:

Wait that happens O_O

...

Am I not watching enough XD. The only anime I've seen where the show, just dwells on how perfect the main couple are is Ore Monogatari? Most of the time, the anime takes place in the time leading up to the couple forming, and that's when it ends.


Well, I wrote my comment with some anime in mind:

  • Toradora
  • Ao Haru Ride
  • Nagi no Asukara (kinda)
  • Your Lie in April
  • Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo (kinda)
  • Oregairu (though it doesn't seem like romance)
  • Plastic Memories (kinda)


To me, these anime have some romance that it's good, at least I like it.

Toradora's protagonist needed to realize they like each other though. It was a coming of age story in that regard.

Nagi No Asakura and Your Lie in April are victims of prolonging. Like... forced drama to pad out a series.

Sakurasou I don't agree with. It was really a roller coaster ride to see whether the protagonist had any feelings outside of respect and jealousy for mashiro.

Oregairu is a coming of age story, and no one's perfect for one another so I don't see where you're coming from. The show's ending basically shows how people's outwards appearance and their inner selfs differ so much. Yukino acts like she's calm, collected and perfect, but she's ridiculously weak to adversity. Yuigahama has SO many problems and things questions about herself however she's stronger in the face of adversity.

They're like the reverse of whatever expactations their tropes gives you, and I love that.
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If there's no anal sex by the fifth episode then it's not for me.


Ya m8 Boku no Pico best romance to ever grace the anime world. People who haven't watched it are virgins and have no idea what romance is about.

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... Well, I don't know the others. I definitely know Sword Art Online though, not sure what you could have against them but everyone has a right to a opinion. Everyone has a different view on things. As I said above, I don't focus on romance in a series so I don't really recall, but it's just kinda interesting you called them out, to me. I didn't imagine anyone disliking them. Like, I know my sister loves them but we don't discuss anime really so I don't know her overview on the subject.


The reason I particularly disliked them is because they're overly idealistically perfect. I mean the dude is the materialization of everything a guy wants to be and the girl is the materialization of everything a guy wants his girl to be. Furthermore, their interactions consist largely of generic I love you, I'll always be with you (as I mentioned before), always thinking of one another no matter what they do. There's not a moment of doubt between their relationship despite they're like, 16.

To conclude, the romance was the absurd, childish product of a romance-deprived person rather than something rational and plausible.

But then again, anime is fiction and everyone's entitled to their own opinions.
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The Araragi X Senjougahara pairing from the Monogatari series will always be my favorite because they are trying so hard to work off of each other to gain the upper hand in the relationship and it's so adorable and mean at the same time.

Another show that had a non-existent relationship but was still kawaii to the max was Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou.

These shows made me feel lonely but it was the level of romance in a romantic series that I was able to get behind 100%. Too much romance and I'll vomit, to little and I'll search of porn of the characters to get my fix. Those were the only in-betweens I've liked.



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Romance with no awkwardness, kissing is no big deal and that has sex.That kind of romance barely exists in anime though.

You mean like a mature relationship?

Even Black Lagoon doesn't do that. To be honest, I don't think I'd like that, unless of course the romance is such a miniscule aspect of the story it doesn't matter, like Naze turbine's harem in Iron Blooded Orphans.

I think it doesn't happen often because if you do that, you don't get to explore the characters as much. There are some manga that try and explore mature relationships like the manga "shitty people." (I forgot it's japanese title) But the relationship just comes off as physical and the people in it less likeable.

You don't even get this in American reality shows without some people disliking it. Daredevil's lovelife in Marvel's Daredevil is rarely seen as physical for a reason I think.
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The Araragi X Senjougahara pairing from the Monogatari series will always be my favorite because they are trying so hard to work off of each other to gain the upper hand in the relationship and it's so adorable and mean at the same time.

Another show that had a non-existent relationship but was still kawaii to the max was Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou.

These shows made me feel lonely but it was the level of romance in a romantic series that I was able to get behind 100%. Too much romance and I'll vomit, to little and I'll search of porn of the characters to get my fix. Those were the only in-betweens I've liked.


I didn't like Bokura Wa Minna Kawaisou, but I did like Ruri Miyahara's other work Love Lab.

I think she's a master at making characters casually cute.
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@TitanAnteus Yeah. I don't see how it would hinder exploring the characters. It also wouldn't just be physical because the romance would still be there as well just without the awkwardness.
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TitanAnteus said:
RyanEsau said:
I don't really care for romance all that much so I don't have specific preference. Long as it's well executed I'm fine with it. But romance isn't something I go out the way for a/o focus on in a series.

I kinda get that.

Since it's practically everywhere there's no real reason to go looking for it.

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creepy

i think the best kind of romance is where it keeps you guessing
eg: the colour of lovers, shuffle


I haven't seen the Colour of Lovers, but I don't think Shuffle was that good. It kept you guessing but not in a good way imo. It felt like it was just prolonging the ending. I liked the way Amagami handled the VN adaptation better.


you should definitely watch it
its property the best harem/romance series you can watch
the best way to describe it is clannad without the bland characters, forced melodrama and cop out ended
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Hmm... Romance.. The genre that I love the most after Slice of Life. The level of romance doesn't matter of the time.

My number one romance anime is Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!. Its romance annime bit it was a bit heavy on SOL. xD
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Even so, it's not like they're always staring at each other all the time and preparing for a kiss.


What I'm saying is, I don't think the anime you're complaining about really exist. Maybe Ore Monogatari but that's it...
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Hmm... Romance.. The genre that I love the most after Slice of Life. The level of romance doesn't matter of the time.

My number one romance anime is Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!. Probably the anime was a bit heavy on SOL. xD

Yeah, that ending was really strong.

Still, i don't think Chuunibyou is heavy on romance. They don't actually realize they like each other until like the end. Most of the story is a coming of age story. Stuff that's heavy on romance is mostly shoujo stuff that put a direct emphasis on romance. I can't stand stuff like kimi ni todoke.
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What I'm saying is, I don't think the anime you're complaining about really exist. Maybe Ore Monogatari but that's it...


You sould watch more romance anime, really.


Eh... I'm confident I've seen TONS of anime, and I honestly can't say that there exists many where the protagonist and heroine are like super in love with each other and the plot doesn't progress.
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50 episodes XD?

He said it halfway through the series. Also, it's good that he said it when he did, because she couldn't understand human interactions before he did. They were building up to the fact that she was starting to understand human emotions and that's when the confession came. It was the most akward and amazing confession ever, because her sudden awareness of him made him feel even more unwanted growing the distance between them... (especially since he immediately left the gekko-state)

Honestly yeah. Renton and Eureka did a better job with handling romance than most strictly romance anime.

Try to find that show in my list... :D


I've been watching anime since forever. I thought you were just another user who was too lazy to include all the anime they've watched in their list. It... it'd be too much work.
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I've never been a big fan of entirely romance focused anime, because they just tend to be filled with unnecessary drama and dragging the story out. I hardly ever even start to care about the characters this way. The best way to handle romance in my opinion is to have it as a subplot while the plot and characters focus on doing something else, kind of like Steins;Gate for example. Doing this gets me much more emotionally involved when the characters thoughts and life doesn't revolve around finding a boy/girlfriend.


Has there ever been exceptions like Koi to Uso (manga) or Coloumb file (manga.) Or even Love Lab?
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TitanAnteus said:
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Hmm... Romance.. The genre that I love the most after Slice of Life. The level of romance doesn't matter of the time.

My number one romance anime is Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!. Probably the anime was a bit heavy on SOL. xD

Yeah, that ending was really strong.

Still, i don't think Chuunibyou is heavy on romance. They don't actually realize they like each other until like the end. Most of the story is a coming of age story. Stuff that's heavy on romance is mostly shoujo stuff that put a direct emphasis on romance. I can't stand stuff like kimi ni todoke.
Yeah, I think so too. Non shoujo romance usually focus on building characters "feeling", "deepen" their "connection", and their "maturity". True romance usually Shoujo.
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I think romance is really hit or miss when it comes to enjoyment.
Something that some people find cheesy or melodramatic may be liked by others.

As for me, I usually tend to like romance the most when it isn't the main plot of the show or when it's accompanied by other elements (may it be action, SoL, mystery etc)..
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I've not a big fan of romance, but there is a bit I do like, I suppose. It's usually the subplot type, like what OP is talking about.
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As far as posible, that's why I have Itazura na Kiss at favorites but I don't mind something slow like Kimi ni Todoke if is not dragged to much.
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I like romances where the MC actually understands that the girl loves him earlier than just after 445345 episodes has passed. It's fine if (s)he doesn't get it at first, but I sure as hell expect them to get it at some point, rather than needlessly dragging it out.
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Imo there's only a few that succeeded with it as a primary/heavy focus, and 9/10 subs are frustrating af, serve little purpose, or are horribly written. Anime doesn't do this genre well. I have a love-hate relationship with it. I hate the fact that I like it.
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How about Golden Time? Pretty good one though
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I think romance is really hit or miss when it comes to enjoyment.
Something that some people find cheesy or melodramatic may be liked by others.

As for me, I usually tend to like romance the most when it isn't the main plot of the show or when it's accompanied by other elements (may it be action, SoL, mystery etc)..

You know... I think this might be the predominant view.

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I like romances where the MC actually understands that the girl loves him earlier than just after 445345 episodes has passed. It's fine if (s)he doesn't get it at first, but I sure as hell expect them to get it at some point, rather than needlessly dragging it out.

Hooray for 12 episodes XD?
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How about Golden Time? Pretty good one though

You thought Golden Time struck a good balance between romance and whatever else was going on?

Hmmm... I guess. The only thing I have against Golden Time is that the protagonist's love life literally decided every facet of his life.
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Not a huge fan a solely romance driven shows, but I think it's really hard to develop your cast of characters without romance.

Really, all a show needs IMO is a display of realistic human attraction. So many animes choose to ignore this aspect and just focus on the driving plot. It doesn't necessarily have to focus on the romance, but I like it when they show male and female characters interact and feed off each others energy. Shows just need to show some mild flirting. For this reason I like having at LEAST one male and one female as main characters.
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Yeah when it the main focus, it can be either a hit or miss like others have said. Plus it usually depends on your preferences anyway. Though romantic subplots run a higher risk of being underdeveloped or rushed, because there's a chance that it could get little focus.
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Not a huge fan a solely romance driven shows, but I think it's really hard to develop your cast of characters without romance.

Really, all a show needs IMO is a display of realistic human attraction. So many animes choose to ignore this aspect and just focus on the driving plot. It doesn't necessarily have to focus on the romance, but I like it when they show male and female characters interact and feed off each others energy. Shows just need to show some mild flirting. For this reason I like having at LEAST one male and one female as main characters.


Does that mean you don't watch all girl shows XD?

Just kidding, I really do agree with you, but some shows scratch that itch for me with just a group of friends.
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I always expect every anime to have a romantic ending, a hug or a kiss.
And mostly there isn't, but I guess it's fine, because many people probably prefer without, and I'll watch some romance a a main genre XD
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What level was Ao Haru Ride? Seriously that anime was full of cute moments that made me go "kyaaaa." every single episode. Almost, Same can be said for that manga too.
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I like the kind of romance that left me satisfied with it conclusion; i.e. the protagonist ending with someone without ambiguity or without picking anyone.
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I've come to enjoy sub-plot romance more than main focus, since the ones I started watching either didn't have a conclusive ending to it or it was like the last minute they confess and I don't enjoy last episode/last minute confessions. I like to have some closure then finish the story later or show them together resolving some reasonable conflict.

Sub-plot romance seems to do this well since it has the main story, then it adds the romance for character development (if it is well-done), and usually it happens before the story ends so you can see them together experiencing some confrontation. Examples would be Busou Renkin, Steins;gate, Parasyte all had closure before the main story ended.

I usually only watch main focus romance, if I know their is going to be a conclusive ending for the characters
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If it's a romance sub-plot, I like the degree of romance it has to be in relation to the main plot.
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A dense guy in a different sense that isn't totally dumb is nice. For example: Ore Monogatari. And here the girl is girly girly, which some people don't like. But in this anime it feels natural, like it's not forced moe or cuteness. It just feels natural to the character. Other examples would be Hitsugi No Chaika, where the cute aspect of the female is natural. No overused moe or cuteness bullshit.
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Depends on the execution. That good ol' answer. So long as the romance feels natural and actually has a reason for being included, I can enjoy it. I tend to dislike romance that springs out of nowhere, especially if it's overbearing right off the bat. Instances such as Rokka no Yuusha where
I will typically dislike shit like that. Regardless of the amount of chemistry present, that isn't love, period. When there isn't much reason for it to have yet surfaced it'll just start to feel forced, and included just for the sake of having romance.

I also dislike overly embarassed people who spend the entire anime freaking the fuck out just because the person they like is living in the same country. Shirou from F/SN exemplifies this - he has a scene in the VN where
Stuff like that is just pathetic. I can't enjoy romance when the characters are like that. There's a certain albeit arbitrary line where awkwardness and embarassment just goes too far.
I'm not sure whether it's just exaggerated in anime or whether it's an actual Japanese thing where people blow their own heads off because someone of the opposite gender is in their vicinity, but either way I vehemently dislike it.

Otherwise, I'm all for romance. It adds a nice dynamic if it's a minor part of a different story, and I do enjoy a fully-on romance focused anime from time to time. It's better if they get together some time before the end, though. I always enjoy romance more if it doesn't culminate in the first kiss being at the end of the last episode. This way you actually get to see them acting as a couple.
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It's not something I'm interested in that much, but I don't dislike it either (at least if it's done decently). I prefer it as a subplot, but rather have less than more of it in my anime.
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