World Trigger Chapter 137 Discussion

-jdj88- said:
so while lurking at mangafox someone mentioned this theory about Katori will successfully eliminate Yuma then Osamu and Chika will have no choice but to fight without Yuma's help thus proving to others that they are capable in geting points without relying on Yuma.

JCNSilva said:


I like this scenario. It would be perfect to Osamu and Chika show their new skills and to prove they can score without Yuuma's help. But, in this scenario, I don't think Tamakoma would get a large advantage.

Botato said:
It won't happen.
Their new tricks are solely to support Yuma score, they don't have to prove anything other than that they can support him properly.
Katori will only remain cocky if she manages to beat Yuma, an ace on par with the top 5 attackers in Border. Not to mention that she'll blame losing on the new tricks she didn't know about, and will claim that now after she knows about them Osamu and Chika can't beat her.

-jdj88- said:
Oh ok :) thanks for the info ;)
What do you think about Katori's uniform as I mentioned from my previous post? Two of her members uses chameleon and maybe Katori used it in the past while she was an attacker...

Kenboy said:
Yep. I haven't read the Databook discussion yet but the WT's wiki says this about K-Unit's main and subtriggers:

Katori:
- Main Trigger(s):Scorpion, Asteroid, Shield, Grasshopper
- Sub Trigger(s):Scorpion, Hound, Shield, Bagworm

Wakamura:
- Main Trigger(s):Asteroid, Hound, Shield
- Sub Trigger(s):Chameleon, Shield, Bagworm

Miura:
- Main Trigger(s):Kogetsu, Senkū, Shield, Gen'yō
- Sub Trigger(s):Chameleon, Shield, Bagworm

I suppose you've read the wiki already, according to your comment above. Lets say that the Wiki is right. So, they have Chameleon, Gen'yo (Yoneya's trigger) and grasshopper. So, this could be a problem? That "Yuma rapidly being defeated by Katori" theory is getting on my nerves, cuz, idk, maybe she is a prodigy too but, man, she needs a lesson and we're talking about Yuma. Btw, if your theory is right, I hope that this could be part of Osamu's new strategy to show everyone that he and Chika don't need to rely on Yuma's skills.

-jdj88- said:
I'm back! :) My internet sucks yesterday so...
Guys, have you notice the uniform of Katori Unit? I think there's a similarity with Kazama Units uniform specially the circle design connected to a line. According to WT databook, there are devices in various places of Kazama Unit's uniform that reduces trion consumption when using chameleon so I think that since they also use chameleon it's possible that they are also using it?

Kenboy said:
show everyone that he and Chika don't need to rely on Yuma's skills.

Kenboy said:
I suppose you've read the wiki already, according to your comment above. Lets say that the Wiki is right. So, they have Chameleon, Gen'yo (Yoneya's trigger) and grasshopper. So, this could be a problem? That "Yuma rapidly being defeated by Katori" theory is getting on my nerves, cuz, idk, maybe she is a prodigy too but, man, she needs a lesson and we're talking about Yuma. Btw, if your theory is right, I hope that this could be part of Osamu's new strategy to show everyone that he and Chika don't need to rely on Yuma's skills.

-jdj88- said:
Oh ok :) thanks for the info ;)
What do you think about Katori's uniform as I mentioned from my previous post? Two of her members uses chameleon and maybe Katori used it in the past while she was an attacker...

Ayami1357 said:
I don't think katori need a defeat to have her "character development" , she already on a losing streak but she did't care , what she need is a motive or goal to make her work hard and be more serious

is't this the first time yuma fight all rounder ?
maybe she have some trick or special tactic can beat or give's yuma hard time she's an ace after all and have 12000 point

kissantassu said:


Yuma fought Miwa, who is an all-rounder.

pablomc said:


He was using his black trigger, will this make it harder? fighting with normal triggers without replica's help

Botato said:
Against Miwa he was holding back and didn't know anything about their weapons. Also it was 4 vs 1 with two snipers he couldn't see.

pablomc said:


I think katori will bail out very quickly.

Ero-sommelier said:


Personal skills is right now the only thing she's got going for her, so I don't think it'll be an easy fight for Yuuma. I'd say she's Yoneya/Midorikawa level. Ofc I don't think Yuuma will lose.

OneCommentary said:
In next chapter, i would not surprise if Yuuma guides Katori to a trap, because he likes fight with all advantages in serious combats.

Botato said:
This is also true.
That's how he won against Murakami.
"Fight under favorable conditions."

Ayami1357 said:
I don't think katori need a defeat to have her "character development" , she already on a losing streak but she did't care , what she need is a motive or goal to make her work hard and be more serious

Botato said:

Their new tricks are solely to support Yuma score, they don't have to prove anything other than that they can support him properly.
Katori will only remain cocky if she manages to beat Yuma, an ace on par with the top 5 attackers in Border. Not to mention that she'll blame losing on the new tricks she didn't know about, and will claim that now after she knows about them Osamu and Chika can't beat her.

Botato said:
If Yuma goes down and T-2 doesn't lose this match then I call bs.

ichii_1 said:

Osamu was doing okay against Inukai and did a good job not dying against Nasu until he got cocky, plus the Yuiga matches.
He should be safely in the mid B-Rank tier now and could hold his own against any mid or low B-Rank that isn't an ace.
Add Chika being the only sniper and they could win without Yuma.

Botato said:
Thing is he wasn't 1 v 1 against Nasu. Kuruma did most of the work.
He did okay against Inukai but he still lost in the end.

We're also talking about a what if scenario in which Katori takes down Yuma. You want to tell me that Katori who can take down Yuma won't be able to take down Osamu and Chika? Her teammates will probably be around by that time too, and Kakizaki squad are together so it will be 3 vs 3 vs 2 with the 2 being the least skilled and experienced.

ichii_1 said:


He lost to Azuma's god like sniping and the other teams doesn't have snipers this mach.

Maybe Katori takes down Yuma with her in a suicide move or lasts enough and someone else joins in to take down Yuma since he' the biggest threat.

Botato said:
Yeah that's why it's a what if scenario. If she is strong enough to take down Yuma, especially in her current state, then Osamu and Chika's chances are even smaller.
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p-kun said:
... Ashihara has been good at ignoring common tropes of instant powerups. I will flip the table so hard if Osamu / Chika suddenly turn into powerhouses with just 2.5 days worth of training...

OneCommentary said:


I'm not sure of that. Chika's shots are dangerous because are unstoppable, and Lightning has a good cadence of shot (she can shoot two or three times). If she hits you, your match is over because you will be paralyzed and shield will not save you of that.
Osamu have to kill off only
Surely Chika will not win but she have a lot of possibilities to not lose



But Chika shooting people is a good power up

Sorry for my english

ichii_1 said:


He lost to Azuma's god like sniping and the other teams doesn't have snipers this mach.

Jota_Carvalho said:

I think Chika shoul only use Black Lighting against Top tier because once she uses it people will known about it and counter it better

p-kun said:


The only thing that Osamu would have accomplish without Azuma team saving him during round 4 was dying 10 seconds early. Inukai broke his Raygust shield and Osamu didn't prepare defensive measure (no shield setup) or counter measure against that (no asteroid setup). The only thing he managed to do post shield break was to land on his butt. Had Azuma team been late for a fraction of a second in saving him (to kill steal Osamu), Inukai would have killed him right away.

p-kun said:
In defense of Osamu's performance in round 3, Kuruma managed to do a number on Nasu because Osamu distracted her.

But let's be fair, solo Osamu is unlikely going to do well against anyone better than Yuiga and Yuiga's stat is the lowest at Border B rankers already (I use the term "unlikely" not stronger term "absolutely" because experience matter and it's not shown in stat and stat is not absolute because it's based on performance during simulated battles as compiled by Border). Thank god it's a team battle manga. Imagine how Osamu will perform in other mangas where "team battles" are basically a bunch of 1 vs 1. Though in Osamu's favor, in other manga, his excess determination will be OP and he'll get the insta power up with just 1 week of training.

Botato said:
This is also true.
That's how he won against Murakami.
"Fight under favorable conditions."

James_Rye said:
I think Osamu isn't using Bagworm because this time he might want to be targeted. After he has prepared some spider traps that is. If he had hide away with bagworm and then show up suddenly on the map some smarter agents might get suspicious why he would reveal himself somewhere on the map where he cannot immediately join some battle going on.