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| You musn't mess around with airi or you will turn out to be like that guy XD Seriously A-1Picture, Spare me with the cliffhanger!!!! the cliffhanger strikes again. i guess airi will die. and i'm going to be honest here, wtf she just opened the door while she already know there was a fire going one besided that door. why didn't she just get out from that fucking room through window...!!! I'm very curious right now about the culprit. looking foward to the next episode. sorry for bad english. |
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| Airi best grill confirmed |
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JustArsan said: this is why anime fans have gone down in quality in terms of critical thinkingmaybe, just maybe it would be explainable everything that isnt spoonfed exposition = bad just use ur brain and look at how the scene was shot, they have a small little shop, they cut into a country scenery, it basically telling u how traditional things are. |
JustArsan said: i just told u how they framed it to make u realize why it isnt that far fetched.moodie said: this is why anime fans have gone down in quality in terms of critical thinking everything that isnt spoonfed exposition = bad just use ur brain and look at how the scene was shot, they have a small little shop, they cut into a country scenery, it basically telling u how traditional things are. Doesn't have to be spoonfed. It's just very important to the character, so I can ask for details, can't I? Seems to have bothered a bunch of people. It's not that it destroys the whole show. It just struck me as odd. and if 100 ppl are stupid im not going to excuse ppl for being stupid. it seems like a lot of ppl here havent had much experience outside their own little comfy lives. so seeing how theft is being over exaggerated, what ppl are thinking here, it shows the inexperience within ppls lives. im not going to deny that at first it did come off as odd but after looking at things from a cultural scale what i think is odd doesnt make it odd to others. |
JustArsan said: moodie said: this is why anime fans have gone down in quality in terms of critical thinking everything that isnt spoonfed exposition = bad just use ur brain and look at how the scene was shot, they have a small little shop, they cut into a country scenery, it basically telling u how traditional things are. Doesn't have to be spoonfed. It's just very important to the character, so I can ask for details, can't I? Seems to have bothered a bunch of people. It's not that it destroys the whole show. It just struck me as odd. Airi's family seemed to be very poor. And they lived in a very rural town. So that little chocolate accident ( accused theft) made him lose his job. And thing leading to another (like family problems and whatnot like how the father would sustain the family) that probably led into the divorce. Some families would even be destroyed for less than that though. |
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| This was a good episode right up to the ending, which I'm extremely annoyed. If I saw smoke coming out of my door I would climb out the window. There was a window right behind her. Really hoping she isn't dead, but if she is I won't be that upset since SHE OPENED THE DOOR. |
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KonoYume said: thx for summing that up for me nicely i really didnt want to spoondfeed that information. it seems like ppl arent willing to understand different perceptive which makes me have such a signature on this forum.JustArsan said: Doesn't have to be spoonfed. It's just very important to the character, so I can ask for details, can't I? Seems to have bothered a bunch of people. It's not that it destroys the whole show. It just struck me as odd. Airi's family seemed to be very poor. And they lived in a very rural town. So that little chocolate accident ( accused theft) made him lose his job. And thing leading to another (like family problems and whatnot like how the father would sustain the family) that probably led into the divorce. Some families would even be destroyed for less than that though. |
JustArsan said: if u want more detail id say read the manga it actually has a lot of scene that are cut from the anime (like most adaptions in general since they arent carbon copies).moodie said: i just told u how they framed it to make u realize why it isnt that far fetched. and if 100 ppl are stupid im not going to excuse ppl for being stupid. it seems like a lot of ppl here havent had much experience outside their own little comfy lives. so seeing how theft is being over exaggerated, what ppl are thinking here, it shows the inexperience within ppls lives. im not going to deny that at first it did come off as odd but after looking at things from a cultural scale what i think is odd doesnt make it odd to others. Likewise I just don't take something harsh as a family breakup over something most people would consider a non-issue for granted. What I wanted to see was more detail, the anime would have to explain the circumstances. That doesn't make people who want to critizise that stupid. We just don't know enough about their family situation to refer to cultural background. Be it far-fetched or not - the issue is, that it was just explained within a minute of a flashback. Depending on how much impact the scene will have on her character in future episodes this could become a more pronounced flaw. I'm not as ignorant as to say that the scene is completely illogical. This wasn't my argument to begin with. Asking for detail doesn't equal spoonfed exposition. |
| Christ guys, Airi told about her past from her perpective, she was a little kids so she probably didn't understand whole that situation that lead to leaving of her father. Unreliable narrator. |
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| They're changing its and bits from the source,still, barely noticeable. Can we expect a 100% loyal adaptation? |
| ep1 : meh and w&s ep2 : why not, few rolling eyes moments, has potential, w&s ep3 : meh *rolling eyes* ep4 : why not but a bit boring ep5 : meh A-1 strikes again. Edit: few explanations: boring one-dimensional bad mother who hits her way-too-smart-and-deep daughter with a smile, random girl coming out of nowhere to help the MC because of her stupid backstory with her stupid father, boring and lazy cinematography, and so on. Also, may I ask for a little more subtle presentation ? |
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Cyanwasserstoff said: Lelouch0202 said: If anything I'm still in the dark about the killer's motives, Can't seem to find a proper motive as to why the killer murdered Satoru's Mom. She knew him, thats why. After she did saw him to try to capture that little girl, she started to think about his identity. And then she was sure about that Satoru's friend Yuki would not be the killer. She did recognize the real killer in the situation where he tried to capture another girl in the park. She most likely would become a thread and he did solve the problem on his way. That's the point of the mystery of this show, |
Harlequina said: People have been talking about seeing some major things in the opening (and made threads about it), so I've refrained from watching it... not gonna risk checking your spoiler box either. Unless you look at the still, or slow down the OP, you won't notice what he's talking about. Not watching an OP because of a split-second spoiler you can barely see is stupid. |
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| Rewatched the episode, they made it obvious who the killer is. |
| Is it normal to divorce after being suspended for the attempted theft ? |
| I was not ready for this. |
bastek66 said: Christ guys, Airi told about her past from her perpective, she was a little kids so she probably didn't understand whole that situation that lead to leaving of her father. Unreliable narrator. Well why would her father leave and never come back if it wasn't that the family broke up? I mean she lived it first hand as the daughter. So her point of view stands somehow no? |
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| Weakest episode so far, and the animation quality definitely dropped. Seems like they're putting more effort in the 1988 segments and just blowing through the 2006 parts. |
Hisokath said: reading 4 chapters in because i dont want to spoil myself i can see why they are omitting things but honestly i can see more cutting and rushing in the futureThey're changing its and bits from the source,still, barely noticeable. Can we expect a 100% loyal adaptation? which i dont mind but its more than a little cutting |
| This is how you tell an amazing story. Speechless episode after episode. It's incredible. |
| Airi says "are you stupid", like Kayo does. Love this anime until now, can't wait a week !! argh |
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The killer/child abductor has to have some kind of connection with the police. Being able to easily pin the crime on someone else is probably the reason to how he's gotten away with so many abductions. Noo, don't burn the pizza girl D: |
JustArsan said: @Jonny_Mhl Oh boy. Here we go. I don't particularily dislike the show, I just critizised one of its aspects. However it does definitely explain why you're so defensive about the topic, jumping right to insults in your very first post. Look. The thing is: Ep. 5 says that a man, from a priviliged family and most likely a happy marriage gets 1) Caught by (apparently) having stolen a single bar of chocolate which is worth practically nothing. ASSUMING they live in a highly traditionalist part of Japan (which most likely they don't) I can aggree with them calling the police after having an argument. 2) He gets divorced from his wife or rather what we can assume was a -happy- marriage. That is just alltogether very weird. Not only would the wife have to assume that he actually stole a chocolate bar (and let's be honest: Why would he do that) -> and secondly, she would have to care more about the deed than the actual worth of his theft. ^-- This is just implausible and plain bad writing. If they explained the background of the family in a bit more detail - maybe, just maybe it would be explainable. But as it stands this is just a bit of forced drama for a sidecharacter. Such a strong rection cannot simpley assumed to be a norm and not be questioned. So. Please tell me. What part did I not understand? It looks like you don't undestand at all, but since you posted with more details I try to give it a go: 1- I'm going to tell you something that I've watched in the news a few weeks ago: A 32 year old woman stole a candy from a supermarket and was caught in the act, she spent 20 YEARS in prison because of the theft. Sounds harsh isn't? It sounds ridiculous for me but I can turn on my Tv and watch something like this from times to times because things like this are common in my country and it tends to happen all the time. Now back to the store problem, being a highly traditionalist part of Japan or not, this doesn't mean the owner of the store can't call the police nor if the guy isn't culprit, as you can see they both argued and screamed at each other and calling the police was the right thing to do and by doing it you know what will happen to his reputation. 2- Looks like you don't know how the japanese people pick heavily on this, some families on Japan put their tradition and honor above everything else, they put it above their own family and I wouldn't be surprised if his wife is one of this type. |
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pretty much this episode but why did airi opened the door, that was dumb. |
| Baby, daijobanai... |
| There are way too many people being stuck up with the chocolate bar story. It's easy to understand if you actually think. |
Harlequina said: It's likely that he is the one. ... So it's this guy then? The one on the right? "Nishizono". Unless... it's another fucking red herring. But no, I don't think so. It's probably this guy, whoever he is. Then who he is? Satoru's mom recognized him immediately. So I have two suspects. The first one is the teacher. The second one is the guy from TV. |
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Tokoya said: Seeing things go from bad to worse really makes me sad Kayo's mom pissing me the fuck off yet again, Kayo disappearing and dying, Satoru coming back to the present to see that all of the deaths hasn't changed, this stupid suspect crap and now fucking Airi (I love her so much) is probably going to die too (I had a feeling this was gonna happen) FML.....All of this stuff is too depressing dammit TwT....Also it looks like being a pedophile is common in this series since even the damn pizza manager is one too However, something that caught my eye was the whole "Are you stupid" lines from Airi.....That cannot be just a coincidence and for some reason I feel like she's defintely related to Kayo but I just don't know how yet I agree with so much of that and your last comment actually about the relation to Kayo scared me, when you look at Airi's age, Kayo's age at the dissapearance and how long it's been since then. I really hope she isn't Kayo's daughter. But my God this anime is good it's been a while since I've been able to give a 10 to a currently airing anime |
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| So her fathers life was ruined by a chocolate bar.. I would've thrown the extra 3$ the thing would've costed and left. Also facepalmed when she opened the door in her house during the fire, I'm not a fire expert but isn't hat common sense not to give the fire more oxygen.? The window was the best option by far, even if there was a drop. |
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| Daaamn, i was kinda caught off guard with him just returning like that, wich was really cool, though considering him needing a trigger to go back in time to fix things, and of course the OP, what happened there at the end, i kinda saw coming when he got back to the present. Also also the conversation with the manager and the mega suspicious guy just makes even turn towards the teacher being the serial killer |
| Pizza guy lookslike Yuuki. Just saying. DONT DIE GENERATION-Y-CHAN! |
"Fuck this shit, fun things are fun!" |
| Cliffhangers, why must you exist?! Great episode overall though! And enjoying the continuous buildup which I hope won't disappoint in the end. |
 ^^^Kayo's dead body in her parents house. So either they did it, they were part of it, or they found her and had to get rid of the body for unknown reasons. They acted like she was missing for a day, so they didn't keep her body for the police, they must have taken it somewhere and it was found later. Boots near the shed, is it possible she froze to death...? Or did the killer leave her there? |
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| That cliffhanger though... That person in the black suit that the manager was talking to seems sketch af. I honestly have no idea what's going to happen, the suspense is killing me. |
Smudy said: Rewatched the episode, they made it obvious who the killer is. Well, I didn't have to re watch the episode to understand who killer was, since it was pretty obvius. |
Kittens-kun said: Harlequina said: People have been talking about seeing some major things in the opening (and made threads about it), so I've refrained from watching it... not gonna risk checking your spoiler box either. Unless you look at the still, or slow down the OP, you won't notice what he's talking about. Not watching an OP because of a split-second spoiler you can barely see is stupid. I didn't actually know that, you know? In case it wasn't obvious, I've refrained from going into any of those threads as well. |
JustArsan said: Jonny_Mhl said: It looks like you don't undestand at all, but since you posted with more details I try to give it a go: 1- I'm going to tell you something that I've watched in the news a few weeks ago: A 32 year old woman stole a candy from a supermarket and was caught in the act, she spent 20 YEARS in prison because of the theft. Sounds harsh isn't? It sounds ridiculous for me but I can turn on my Tv and watch something like this from times to times because things like this are common in my country and it tends to happen all the time. Now back to the store problem, being a highly traditionalist part of Japan or not, this doesn't mean the owner of the store can't call the police nor if the guy isn't culprit, as you can see they both argued and screamed at each other and calling the police was the right thing to do and by doing it you know what will happen to his reputation. 2- Looks like you don't know how the japanese people pick heavily on this, some families on Japan put their tradition and honor above everything else, they put it above their own family and I wouldn't be surprised if his wife is one of this type. It looks to me more like we just write past each other, as the previous posts all just about summed up what was already written time and time again. Aight. I'll keep this short: I never claimed, that the scene was absolutely illogical. What I claimed was, that the presentation was bad. I don't know where you're from and it doesn't really matter to the subject at hand. Of course stuff like this happens at places - Legal action is one thing BUT to assume that a seemingly happy family would break-up because of a theft (not necessarily the effect resulting from that theft / but this could be just as likely the pov from Airi as a girl, which I'd think is much more likely) can't be accepted as the norm. It would be, if the viewer would know more about their background and would not be forced to generalise how any family values aspects like love, reputation, living conditions; and so on. Personally I like the theories that either it was just the POV from Airi as a child or that there was much more going on in the background and the theft and the resulting penalty was just the trigger for their conflict - however this isn't shown as of yet to the viewer. Which is an important detail. I'm totally with you hear. After being completely absorbed with the majority of the episode I lost my shit after seeing this. I totally understand why they would want to give Airi's motivations for helping Satoru (I mean the dude is currently suspected of murder), but it was done in such a retarded manner. Imao the writer could have come up with any story that he wanted to to explain Airi's tendency to believe people, but after seeing the flash back all i could think of is how one man's life was completely destroyed over a single chocolate bar. Theres absolutely no gravity to that, with how meaningless the whole situation was and its supposed impact on who Airi is it would make more sense if she became jaded over how life could fuck you up at any moment as opposed to simply wanting to believe in people. |
| Q: The world won't change, you must change yourself in this world. Now, how will you change yourself? A: Become the god of the new world. |
| This episode was meh meh meh. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Episodes 2, 3 and 4 were pretty strong but I don't have faith that this show will pull off it's overarching mystery very well. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Yea, another enjoyable episode. Kayo's parents need to fucking die. |
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JustArsan said: It looks to me more like we just write past each other, as the previous posts all just about summed up what was already written time and time again. Aight. I'll keep this short: I never claimed, that the scene was absolutely illogical. What I claimed was, that the presentation was bad. I don't know where you're from and it doesn't really matter to the subject at hand. Of course stuff like this happens at places - Legal action is one thing BUT to assume that a seemingly happy family would break-up because of a theft (not necessarily the effect resulting from that theft / but this could be just as likely the pov from Airi as a girl, which I'd think is much more likely) can't be accepted as the norm. It would be, if the viewer would know more about their background and would not be forced to generalise how any family values aspects like love, reputation, living conditions; and so on. Personally I like the theories that either it was just the POV from Airi as a child or that there was much more going on in the background and the theft and the resulting penalty was just the trigger for their conflict - however this isn't shown as of yet to the viewer. Which is an important detail. Accused theft leads to destroyed honor/reputation Destroyed honor/reputation leads to loss of job Loss of job leads to no income No income leads to unable to support the family Unable to support the family leads to more stressors about marriage More stressors about marriage leads to divorce I think the presentation was clear enough... Unless you haven't exposed to this kind of culture. Then again, this show is intended for Japanese which they know their culture/tradition. It is up to us non Japanese to understand in order to be more culturally competent Moral of the story? Don't steal chocolate |
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