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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Jack the Drought? Such a weird name for a mammoth lol Quite a revelation about the gas weapon this chapter~ |
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| Would they have been able to win if they didn't have a gas weapon? I don't think so. |
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| Very interested in Jack's abilities. His name is very different from appearance. Disappointed at the lack of Sanji info :( Seeing the SH's faces when Luffy tried to talk about the ninja was funny. |
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| Okay, so that Raizo did something pretty bad to Kaido... Thought after the fall of Doffy, recovering Cesar would be his top priority. Nice chapter, not much going on, but the narrative is progressing, and i like it. |
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| Wow, dat Jack dehype. First time we get to actually see him and he's a scrub. Minks>Kaido's VC's crew. I just don't even.... All of a sudden Sanji punching on with Jack doesn't seem so impressive. And I don't know what to think of the Duke, Luffy said he's strong but he also said that for Hyouzou (and Fuji). So what is he, fodder level or Admiral level? |
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| So Jack is the Mammoth and is called Jack the Drought. No mercy at all. Good to see that the Minks can hold their own. Jack using Cesears poison weapon on Zou. The Duke sure is one massive dog mink. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
frankykun13 said: the mink's leader seems badass !! liking his character already.. +1 G_Spark233 said: Disappointed at the lack of Sanji info :( again +1 the lack of Sanji info really disappointed me... i thought we'll finally hear about him.. |
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| More Oda trolling XD " "U wanted to know about Sanji?" "Nope I'll just give u one more hint. Caesar's poison was the reason for Jack's victory." So ur telling me Inurashi was on par with Jack if not for the poison? O_o Damn! Either he's friggin strong or Jack is a scrub. How the hell did Jack sink 2 Marine ships when he's just a Mammoth? ^^; But well nice info about there being 3 calamities. I wonder if Drake is one of them. And there are 3 Musketeers too? Cool. |
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| Jack is ruthless as f*ck Doesnt give a f*** against eldersbchildrens and women and peace talk just pure badaasss. |
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| Meh I just want Sanji. The cover page was nice tho c: |
| jack is such an asshole!!!!!!! and lol he would have got his ass kicked if he did not use the poison weapon!! his mammoth form is lame as fuck |
| *people die when they are killed* - emiya shirou....... |
| A mammoth named Jack, Marauders form Warhammer, Luffy being dumb as usual... |
| I didn't realise Jack was Kaidous right hand man. Hory shet. This gun b gud. Ceasars gas, oh no. I like this island, giving me that one piece feel of adventure :D |
| Does anyone else need a doctor to confirm that someone without a head is dead? |
| Am I the only one let down a bit by this? |
| So Jack is Kaidou right hand men.Nice. Caesar gas. Is it one the same one in Punk Hazard? |
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
jimbob1141 said: He might not be. We have to wait for PowerManga's translations 'cause MangaStream are notorious for screw-ups.I didn't realise Jack was Kaidous right hand man. Hory shet. This gun b gud. metsujin said: Am I the only one let down a bit by this? Nope, it was a roflmao-worthy chapter. |
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| Usopp Pirates Tears of happiness. X) Now entire Village knows about Usopp adventures. and Kaya get's more beautiful....Usopp is one Lucky Bastard when he returns home. Wait Jack is Mammoth? so..it was not the Morgan? pooh. ANd Luffy...there is being Dumb....and THERE US BEING INSENSITIVE AND SERIOUSLY DUMB!!!! F***ING MORON!!!!! These fillers are filled with quite interesting information...I am liking these chapter more and more. but what happened to Sanji!!! So this is somewhat the Power of the Kaidou Pirates that have power of the SMILE/SAD...artificial Zoan Fruits. |
JarjaxleNov 27, 2015 3:43 AM
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| I don't know why but I'm interested on this arc. I think all crew member of Kaidou is Zoan user. How scary~ >_< |
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| The repugnant attack . Musketeers and captain of all minks . |
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| I guess some more progress? Not too happy but not too disappointed either. Feels like Animal Kingdom vs Animal Pirates. hot squirrel nurse |
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| Meh ... still not very impressed. Oda can do much better than that. |
| Jack is a mammoth, what the fuck o.O Was nice seeing Kaya again, reminds of the good ol' times~ |
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| It was an ok/interesting chapter. I liked the design of the Musketeer he looked kinda cool. Other than that there is still so many open questions. |
| Since we didn't get to see first hand what happened between duke and jack, it can be that jack sent his men first as we saw and the minks and the Duke had the upper hand against them. But if Jack himself was in then Inuarashi is really impressive. And he is the Duke of day! Duke of night should be even stronger. |
SNSConnectionNov 27, 2015 3:03 PM
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| This chapter compared to the previous was much better. |
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| A shocking revelation?? Not really... |
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| jack the drought hes kaidous right hand that mamoth ..... so raizo did something to kidou no info about snji so mink tribe is so strong they can beat that mamoth but ceasars gas weapon dstroyed them so thats means tht mmoth isnt strong ... |
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| We got information on what happened to the Minks when Jack invaded, and it turns out Caesar's poison destroyed the country. Not a terrible chapter, but not amazing (but not every single chapter can be amazing, so whatever). It was nice to get some more background information and to see some new characters, but hopefully we get some Sanji-related info soon. |
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Tobinami said: frankykun13 said: the mink's leader seems badass !! liking his character already.. +1 G_Spark233 said: Disappointed at the lack of Sanji info :( again +1 the lack of Sanji info really disappointed me... i thought we'll finally hear about him.. +1 This chapter was better than the last. Luffy's face was hilarious after getting beaten up. Classic stuff. |
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| Lol Jack looks like complete shit now XD G4 luffy should be able to beat Jack if this dog can give him a hard time XD And this guy thought he could beat an admiral? |
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| So Oda...about Sanji? lol Lol at Luffy getting beat up, all hell is gonna break loose once Kinemon shows up. Jack's a grade A asshole. |
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ichii_1 said: Lol Jack looks like complete shit now XD G4 luffy should be able to beat Jack if this dog can give him a hard time XD And this guy thought he could beat an admiral? And how exactly do you know how strong the dog is? You're just assuming he can't be for example G4 Luffy or even admiral level because...? We have NO REASON to believe that minks can't be as powerful as a yonkou crew. You just assume that, well, since they are not pirates,marines, revos or WG, they must be weak. Apparently you can't be a high/top tier if you're not in one of those four groups. |
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| No, it's not bad writing by any means. You're argument basically comes down to "it wasn't foreshadowed or hinted at so it's bad writing" and "you can't be a powerhouse unless you're a marine/pirate/etc" That's just flawed logic. You're forcing cliches to make what you think is a well written story and call bad writing something that goes against them. Their land is basically considered a fable, there are barely any minks around the world (unlike fishman or giants). If they are powerhouses that are not interested in leaving their island, being pirates etc. but just living a peaceful life and being left alone, it's only normal there wouldn't be much hype about them in the world. And how would anyone know how strong they are if their home changes location all the time and is hard to get to, and the most powerful minks don't leave it? There is no rule that says a high/top tier must be a well-known big shot in the world. |
Dahaka_Nov 27, 2015 4:40 PM
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Isterio said: It would be completely out of nowhere to put the Minks on that high powerlevel, we knew regular Fishman are 10 times stronger than Humans and that was terrifying at the time, but also a testiment to Luffys crew and their power for taking them down. All of sudden humans like Aokiji got introduced and the Fishman powerlevels became unreliable, but even among them are guys like Jinbe. No it's not lmao. We know little about them and they haven't even been in combat, fishman have nothing to do with it if Minks are 20x or whatever. Also, I'm pretty sure Fishman were just 10x physically stronger. However we do not know anything about the Minks, and it would come out of left field to introduce them as that awesome force that´s compareable to the 3 big forces that control this fictional world. It would be terrible writing. It was never stated they were one of the "big three forces that control this fictional world", their subordinates to one of the many people who control this fictional world, Kaido. This is the new world anyway, bigger stakes. |
ashfrliebertNov 27, 2015 5:26 PM
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Isterio said: Which is proven by the aforementioned Samurai. We didn´t knew anything about Samurai untill recently, Zorro´s swordsmanship is inspired by them so is his school and his way of life/philosphy. Pride/devotion towards his leader and so on. However we never knew if Samurai do exist within the universe of One Piece. With Kinemon´s introduction we learned about them, but we also learned that the world government is specifically interested in them because they are powerful. They are also secluded like the Minks, but still some "insider". Fujitora knew anyway and told the reader, hey those guys are strong, strong enough that the world government has an interest in them. ...This makes them big shots, as in "strong and important". But regardless, this still doesn't necessarily make it rule. None of that applies to the Minks, which would make it badly written if Oda would pull them out of his ass. The "we didn't know about them" does, actually. We still don't know much about them. We knew from thriller bark that "they existed" and that Ryuma was there, that's little to none. Oda calls them strong, they are strong. That's pretty much how being strong in a fictional story works. You have to tell your audience your strong in some way. We were introduced to the Minks a few chapters ago, and so what? You don't have to be authority in the series to be strong, that's not a rule. And you don't have to be mentioned in the series prior to be strong, neither. It´s no deus ex machina if they don´t actually solve the problem, yet it´s cheap writing. So they don´t wanna rule but they behave hostile towards strangers? Why? If they are that strong as you imply no one should wanna fuck with them. as we clearly saw that´s not the deal people don´t bother with taking them down, so making them overly awesome would diminish the hype for Kaidos crew and make another Doflamingo bunch of imbeciles crew. The person who fucks with him, as said, is a subordinate to one of the strongest people in the series. Soo.. What I also do not get, how Oda tries to make numbers significant when CoC Haki exists that makes them obsolete in the long run. Few people have actually been shown to have CoC, but regardless, the point is that CoC doesn't effect strong willed people. Short for "Plot relevant" people, the numbers matter from a story perspective and not necessarily an "active role" one. |
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Dahaka_ said: ichii_1 said: Lol Jack looks like complete shit now XD G4 luffy should be able to beat Jack if this dog can give him a hard time XD And this guy thought he could beat an admiral? And how exactly do you know how strong the dog is? You're just assuming he can't be for example G4 Luffy or even admiral level because...? We have NO REASON to believe that minks can't be as powerful as a yonkou crew. You just assume that, well, since they are not pirates,marines, revos or WG, they must be weak. Apparently you can't be a high/top tier if you're not in one of those four groups. It's not about groups, it's about one of kaido's best men getting his ass handed to him if it wasn't for the gas. Base Luffy already fought with some guardians earlier, this day boss is nothing compared to g4, one of kaido's best man should easily deal with these minks. Jack is only abit above pica level. Maybe the night boss will be closer depending on how more powerful they get at night. There is no reason for jack to get pushed this hard. |
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| Just as people said, why do you have to think that Jack should be super strong because he's Kaido's right hand man? Blackbeard is a yonkou, and we can say that his right hand man is Burgess, do you think Burgess is that powerful? Even Zoro can beat him, let alone Luffy. Maybe we can say that Jack is much stronger than any of the Minks but the Minks could have been way above his subordinates. You see how their fighters attack Zoro earlier. And then there is the Duke, which even Luffy believe to be strong. Maybe the Minks got the upperhand because of their numbers that's why Jack uses gas. Maybe Jack also used this gas against the Marines that's why he's managed to sink two ships.There is no need to be frustrated that the Minks are strong, it doesn't mean that Jack is weak, it just mean that the strong people are not limited to pirates belonging to a yonkou, shichibukai, and marine headquarters. You should've realized this much when you've heard of the Wano and the Hapo Navy. |
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ichii_1 said: Dahaka_ said: And how exactly do you know how strong the dog is? You're just assuming he can't be for example G4 Luffy or even admiral level because...? We have NO REASON to believe that minks can't be as powerful as a yonkou crew. You just assume that, well, since they are not pirates,marines, revos or WG, they must be weak. Apparently you can't be a high/top tier if you're not in one of those four groups. It's not about groups, it's about one of kaido's best men getting his ass handed to him if it wasn't for the gas. Base Luffy already fought with some guardians earlier, this day boss is nothing compared to g4, one of kaido's best man should easily deal with these minks. Jack is only abit above pica level. Maybe the night boss will be closer depending on how more powerful they get at night. There is no reason for jack to get pushed this hard. Once again, how do you know how strony the duke is if he hasn't shown any feats? It's just impossible to tell. Guardian's power level has nothing do with it. I mean seriously, at this point you're not pleased because Oda didn't go the cliche "badass bigshot stomps the nation of innocent furries" way. Jack had a lot to take care of, two dukes, three musketeers, the guardians. Sheepshead was one shot by Sanji, so he's close to fodder. Jack had to take all, or at least them most, of them alone, which makes sense that he would have problems seeing how the minks are portrayed so far. I mean seriously, the fodder of kaidos grew (Pleasures) were one shot by elders milfs, and kids, they are faaaar away from being weak like most of the nations of one piece. |
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| Pandaman was on that first page. Looks like he's been a mink this whole time. Makes sense. And why do people assume thatthe minks aren't strong. They didn't come out of nowhere. Oda has planned on this probably a while before Bepo was even introduced. Last time Luffy commented on someone looking strong it was Fujitora. He's seems to be a pretty good judge of strength. The Duke could be really strong. Especially if he is supposed to be the strongest fighter in their whole race. I could see him being Jimbei level. |
| The lack of info about Sanji in this chapter has made me very disappointed. >.< |
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shnaide said: Just as people said, why do you have to think that Jack should be super strong because he's Kaido's right hand man? Blackbeard is a yonkou, and we can say that his right hand man is Burgess, do you think Burgess is that powerful? Even Zoro can beat him, let alone Luffy. Maybe we can say that Jack is much stronger than any of the Minks but the Minks could have been way above his subordinates. I'm with the the10tailed wolf in this issue, why can't the minks just be super strong like Jack? It's pretty simple. But yes, I think Burgess is super strong because he's a main member of Blackbeard's crew(although not *as* powerful), I just don't see why we can't accept someone being almost as strong. But yes, I agree about his subordinates. |
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