| You look at any other form of DvD or movie on a site like amazon, and they sell for 0.01 + Delivery, Then you try to buy anime, which you can watch 99% of free online anyway, and it all costs like 20-30 Quid + P&P, Why? and does anyone know a website that sells anime or manga that contradicts this? |
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| It's harder to find and rarer, perhaps. |
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| Because making anime costs a lot of money |
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| Because Chinese cartoons |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Maybe the 40% mark up from the cost of importing, and the 25% mark up of your local provider after having bought it at close to if not full retail price. Disclaimer: the numbers used are all arbitrary. |
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| Uh i stream evrything |
| Anime is expensive. Production wise, and price wise. |
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cupc said: Because making anime costs a lot of money Consequent said: Anime is expensive. Production wise, and price wise. A single episode of Friends costs 10 million dollars due to the cast Anime does not have cast restrictions and due to the absense of CGI an average episode is $120,000 of a Popular show. Anime isn't expensive I have to bring this up every thread. |
Theaterofhope said: cupc said: Because making anime costs a lot of money Consequent said: Anime is expensive. Production wise, and price wise. A single episode of Friends costs 10 million dollars due to the cast Anime does not have cast restrictions and due to the absense of CGI an average episode is $120,000 of a Popular show. Anime isn't expensive I have to bring this up every thread. That's what I was thinking, yet for some reason Even used Copies seem to go for 20$ +, Is it the fanbase driving the price high? or some other factor like people mentioned above ... hmmm |
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DejWo said: But it can be argued that anime is niché,so ratio price of an episode/watchers is different. Yeah pretty much this. They are priced highly because that's how they make the most profit. And believe me, the animation studios still aren't swimming in money. Especially the animators. |
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| btw there is such a thing called bootleg anime DVDs. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/DVD-Fate-Zero-Fate-Zero-season-1-season-2-Vol-1-25-End-/151344740749?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233cd9798d i used to go to this asian store where a season of bleach was 2 dollars |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
DejWo said: hakuyu said: btw there is such a thing called bootleg anime DVDs. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/DVD-Fate-Zero-Fate-Zero-season-1-season-2-Vol-1-25-End-/151344740749?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233cd9798d i used to go to this asian store where a season of bleach was 2 dollars I have always wanted to watch anime in mandarin. Japanese dub and mandarin subtitles preferably. they have english subtitles :o but like they're really bad...rukia was spelled as "lukia" =.= |
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Theaterofhope said: You're comparing one of the most expensive western TV shows to produce against a successful anime series.A single episode of Friends costs 10 million dollars due to the cast Anime does not have cast restrictions and due to the absense of CGI an average episode is $120,000 of a Popular show. Anime isn't expensive I have to bring this up every thread. That really isn't the same thing. |
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DejWo said: Theaterofhope said: A single episode of Friends costs 10 million dollars due to the cast Anime does not have cast restrictions and due to the absense of CGI an average episode is $120,000 of a Popular show. Anime isn't expensive I have to bring this up every thread. But it can be argued that anime is niché,so ratio price of an episode/watchers is different. Maybe is has to do with the fact Anime sells more copies in the U.S. than it does in Japan http://animereviews.co/animepov/believe-it-anime-sells-more-copies-in-the-u-s-than-it-does-in-japan/ |
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Theaterofhope said: Anime isn't expensive Let me correct my words a bit. Making good quality anime is expensive. Better now? |
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| Niche market (anime is cheaper in the US except for PonyCan and AoA because most people don't put up with a full set of anime costing $400-$5000 like how Japan does with anime) Bootlegging anime is not reccommended, it was the go to pre-internet, but anime is cheaper now unless you live in Japan or are buying an AoA or PonyCan licensed anime so save up and buy the official product. |
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hakuyu said: btw there is such a thing called bootleg anime DVDs. http://www.ebay.ca/itm/DVD-Fate-Zero-Fate-Zero-season-1-season-2-Vol-1-25-End-/151344740749?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233cd9798d i used to go to this asian store where a season of bleach was 2 dollars Bootleg Anime DVDs are typically of a very low quality. Sometimes they'll sandwich so many episodes on one disc that there's compression artifacts everywhere, and it looks like shit. I only buy official Anime DVDs. If you want'em cheap, watch eBay, and sometimes you can get really good deals. Just make sure that they're authentic. |
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Working_Designs said: Bootleg Anime DVDs are typically of a very low quality. Sometimes they'll sandwich so many episodes on one disc that there's compression artifacts everywhere, and it looks like shit. oh yes, i know. i listed them because OP was assuming all anime dvds were expensive. from my experience, they're not that bad. definitely not as good compared to an official BD but still watchable for most people. the problem are the crap subtitles. |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
hakuyu said: Working_Designs said: Bootleg Anime DVDs are typically of a very low quality. Sometimes they'll sandwich so many episodes on one disc that there's compression artifacts everywhere, and it looks like shit. oh yes, i know. i listed them because OP was assuming all anime dvds were expensive. from my experience, they're not that bad. definitely not as good compared to an official BD but still watchable for most people. the problem are the crap subtitles. My problem is I just want the anime physical because I'm a collector, not just so have it, If I want to watch anime, I stream it, but my favourites like Code geass and mirai nikki ( which btw has no region 2 release ) it would be nice to have physical versions, So when I found out how expensive they were, I was kind of shell shocked |
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| By the way, I find that this one is actually quite a bit cheaper http://www.shopanimedvd.com/default.php |
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| Most English releases of anime aren't that expensive anymore. The Japanese prices of anime are crazy though, I don't know why anyone would pay $500+ just for one series. |
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joephillingham said: By the way, I find that this one is actually quite a bit cheaper http://www.shopanimedvd.com/default.php How much is shipping? |
| [right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
joephillingham said: By the way, I find that this one is actually quite a bit cheaper http://www.shopanimedvd.com/default.php Some stuff from that website are bootlegs, especially everything in the "Import DVD" section. Also, anything that has Malay or Chinese subtitles are bootlegs. I only buy from RightStuf, and I use eBay for the "out of print" stuff. With RightStuf, everything is guaranteed to be 100% authentic, and they have sales all the time, the biggest ones during Christmas. |
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DejWo said: Consequent said: Let me correct my words a bit. Making good quality anime is expensive. Better now? I'd say that writing is one of the most important aspects of anime,which pretty much decides whether anime is good or not and it does not matter if the writer gets paid two times the average salary as long as he writes good. Price of anime is mostly affected by animation,soundtrack and voice actors. But those alone do not make a good anime. Good example of expensive,yet not so good anime would be Fate/Zero and Fate/Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works TV. If people simply watched anime for the "good story", then they might as well be reading picture books with text on them. Production value is what makes anime anime. Neon Genesis Evangelion is a perfect example. Even with a compelling storyline, what could they had done for the last two episodes. While the anime had a great story and interesting execution, the last two episodes with no budget completely ruined the entire anime. It's literally what most if not all of the criticism goes to.. |
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| I think DVDs in general are just expensive.. like they're not priced very differently than regular TV shows on DVD. Like manga also seems expensive af but if you compare it to the size of a regular book it's about the same |
| You're just poor. |
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| Anime isn't expensive to purchase unless its released by Aniplex. Otherwise prices range from $15 to $60. |
| I'm poor and I find this offensive |
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| Anime is a much more niche media so in order to make up the cost of licensing, localization and distribution, companies like Funimation and Aniplex charge a bit more to the smaller amount of people they know for sure are going to buy |
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FGAU1912 said: every episode costs around 1.25 million usd per 30 mins mimmum that is around 400k more than a live action error  |
YouAreNotSugoi said: Basically this.Anime is a much more niche media so in order to make up the cost of licensing, localization and distribution, companies like Funimation and Aniplex charge a bit more to the smaller amount of people they know for sure are going to buy Although one could comment that it is a "niche media" because of a rather universal lack on interest in Anime Production Companies marketing outwards. If more money was put in to marketing to foreign countries I think that the anime industry might be a tad bit more stable, due to an increase in consumer base. Although this is pure speculation, there are a million reasons why this could be a bad idea too. But from what I have seen with regards to Nintendo over the last decade or two, this is kind of the opinion I have been having about anime as well. |
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cupc said: True but let me show you somethingBecause making anime costs a lot of money Anime in comparison to western animation is dirt cheap to make |
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| Its foreign, foreign stuff is always expensive, and the market for anime is small compared to other mediums so they dont make as much merchandise |
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| why did no one quote the anime economy yet? Source: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-03-07 The said: To a Westerner, the Japanese DVD market seems horribly overpriced. With the average disc running over ¥7,000 (US$92) and only containing 2-4 episodes of a series, the cost of collecting a single show can easily run several hundred dollars -- more than many American fans spend in a single year. The prices actually stem from a business practice we used to have in America, too: rental pricing. Basically, back in the dawn of the home video business, the industry was constructed in a way where "niche" releases were only meant to sell a few thousand copies, mostly to video rental shops. Prices were high (typically $89.95 in America), but video shops benefited from having a wide and semi-exclusive selection of movies that normal people would never pay for. At those prices, only a few thousand sales could mean over a million dollars of revenue. Initially, video industry people didn't think there was much of a market in selling to collectors. But the fans proved them wrong. Otaku of all kinds (not just anime fans) started buying the videotapes and laserdiscs, and they bought them at those high prices that were intended just for video stores. There was no reason to lower it. In fact, there were a few experiments to drop the price to a more affordable amount, but that usually resulted in a slight increase in sales -- not enough to make up for the drop in revenue. When you think about it, that makes sense. Most Japanese people live in much smaller homes, and with many more people than their Western counterparts. In most cases, it simply doesn't make sense for Japanese consumers to build a big home media library. Only the hardcore fans of a particular product will usually want to bother owning a tape or DVD, and everyone else relies on rental shops. Media is a specialty market, not a mass-market one, so prices have stayed astronomically high. The Japanese Otaku's desire to own anime even at high prices had an unexpected effect: as the rest of the economy tanked and video stores stopped buying every new video release, the otaku kept buying pretty much everything that got released. Before long, the few thousand fans that bought anime DVDs were supporting nearly the entire budget of a show. Even as the rest of the Japanese home video industry lowered their prices to varying degrees, anime stayed at the same high price. It's simply the only way most shows can ever make a profit. |
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| @Romagia : Many thanks for that quote. This answered a question that I had for a very long time. I thought quite a bit about it but couldn't find a reason answering it completely. Now this sounds logical. Unfortunately, this also means that the prices of DVD/BR in japan aren't going to go down anytime soon. As someone who order my manga and light novels directly from japan, I was always sad that I had to avoid dvd and br of what I liked due to the sheer ridiculous price that they had. Looks like this will continue like that, but now I know why it will continue~ |
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cupc said: Because making anime costs a lot of money So does making movies. |
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