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Here are the weekly Blu-ray & CD rankings for December 8th - 14th

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

Blu-ray
*1. 28,312 *28,312 Rakuen Tsuihou: Expelled From Paradise Limited Edition
*2. 15,307 *15,307 Strike Witches: Operation Victory Arrow Vol.1 Limited Edition
*3. *6,375 **6,375 Persona 4 The Golden Animation Vol.4 Limited Edition
*4. *2,498 **2,498 Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon: Crystal Vol.3 Limited Edition
*5. *1,754 **1,754 Rakuen Tsuihou: Expelled From Paradise Regular Edition
*6. *1,608 *10,485 Kaguya-hime no Monogatari
*7. **,985 **5,871 Saint Seiya: Legend of Sanctuary Blu-ray BOX Limited Edition
*8. **,876 ***,876 Pretty Rhythm: Aurora Dream Blu-ray BOX Vol.1
*9. **,858 **3,178 Saint Seiya: Legend of Sanctuary Regular Edition
10. **,811 ***,811 Shounen Hollywood: Holly Stage for 49 Vol.3
11. **,649 *44,150 Love Live! School Idol Project 2nd Season Vol.6 Special Limited Edition
12. **,550 ***,550 Uchuusen Sagittarius Blu-ray BOX Limited Edition
13. **,457 **7,196 Detective Conan Movie 18: The Sniper from Another Dimension Special Limited Edition
14. **,455 **8,848 Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199: Tsuioku no Koukai
(cut-off 455)


DVD
*1. 2,947 *11,155 Kaguya-hime no Monogatari
*2. 2,502 *40,794 Youkai Watch DVD-BOX Vol.1
*3. 1,752 **1,752 Norasco Vol.1
*4. 1,626 **1,626 Norasco Vol.2
*5. 1,558 **1,558 Persona 4 The Golden Animation Vol.4 Limited Edition
*6. 1,226 **3,844 Saint Seiya: Legend of Sanctuary
*7. 1,221 **1,221 Strike Witches: Operation Victory Arrow Vol.1 Limited Edition
*8. 1,085 *19,523 Tonari no Totoro HD-Remaster
*9. 1,021 **1,021 Rakuen Tsuihou: Expelled From Paradise Regular Edition
10. *,970 **6,874 Detective Conan Movie 18: The Sniper from Another Dimension Regular Edition
11. *,832 *11,020 Crayon Shin-chan Movie 22: Gachinko! Gyakushuu no Robo To-chan
12. *,786 **9,157 Detective Conan Movie 18: The Sniper from Another Dimension Special Limited Edition
13. *,718 **9,110 Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi HD-Remaster
14. *,676 **8,903 Majo no Takkyuubin HD-Remaster
15. *,531 **5,180 Tenkuu no Shiro Laputa HD-Remaster
16. *,509 **1,825 Sore Ike! Anpanman: Ringo Bouya to Minna no Negai
17. *,465 129,249 Kaze Tachinu
18. *,397 ***,397 Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon: Crystal Vol.2 Regular Edition
19. *,367 ***,367 Shounen Hollywood: Holly Stage for 49 Vol.3
20. *,349 *11,142 Free!: Eternal Summer Vol.3
21. *,347 **3,889 Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199: Tsuioku no Koukai
(cut-off 347)


CD Single
*3. 29,399 *29,399 Sword Art Online II EDs "Shirushi/No More Time Machine" by LiSA (incl. in "Shirushi")
14. *8,741 *32,535 Sword Art Online II OP "courage" by Haruka Tomatsu
20. *4,320 **4,320 Hoozuki no Reitetsu OVA ED "Enma Daiou ni Kiite Goran" by Sumire Uesaka
23. *3,360 *50,924 "Aki no Anata no Sora Tooku" by lily white [Umi Sonoda (CV: Suzuko Mimori), Rin Hoshizora (CV: Riho Iida), Nozomi Toujou (CV: Aina Kushida) from μ's]
25. *2,842 *11,790 Naruto: Shippuuden Movie 7 - The Last ED "Hoshi no Utsuwa" by Sukima Switch
27. *2,725 **2,725 Aikatsu! Movie ED "Kagayaki no Etude" by STAR☆ANIS
31. *2,458 *89,859 Youkai Watch ED "Dan Dan Dubi Zubaa!" by Dream5 + Burii Taichou
35. *1,961 *25,863 Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso OP "Hikaru nara" by Goose house
37. *1,927 *14,396 Kono Danshi, Sekika ni Nayandemasu ED "glitter wish" by Shouta Aoi (incl. in "Himitsu no Kuchizuke")
40. *1,859 *57,340 "Eien Friends" by Printemps [Honoka Kousaka (CV: Emi Nitta), Kotori Minami (CV: Aya Uchida), Hanayo Koizumi (CV: Yurika Kubo) from μ's]
42. *1,753 **9,008 Rakuen Tsuihou: Expelled From Paradise ED "EONIAN" by ELISA
43. *1,725 137,793 Youkai Watch OP "Geragerapou no Uta" by King Creamsoda
46. *1,555 **1,555 Fairy Tail (2014) OP "Mysterious Magic" by Do As Infinity
48. *1,493 **1,493 Naruto: Shippuuden ED "Dame Dame da" by Shiori Tomita
50. *1,415 *19,411 Nanatsu no Taizai ED "7 -seven-" by FLOW x GRANRODEO
57. *1,230 *24,160 Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) ED "believe" by Kalafina
59. *1,187 *24,522 Psycho-Pass 2 ED "Fallen" by EGOIST
64. *1,127 **9,290 Tenkai Knights ED "Densetsu no FLARE" by Pile
66. *1,119 *17,790 Kiseijuu: Sei no Kakuritsu ED "IT’S THE RIGHT TIME" by Daichi Miura (incl. in "Fureau dake de ~Always with you~ / IT’S THE RIGHT TIME"
83. **,722 ***,722 Shounen Hollywood: Holly Stage for 49 Character Song "Makka na Pride" by Kakeru Kazami (CV: Ryota Osaka)
89. **,660 *19,858 Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) OP "ideal white" by Mashiro Ayano
92. **,644 *56,513 Cross Ange: Tenshi to Ryuu no Rondo OP "Kindan no Resistance" by Nana Mizuki
94. **,630 **5,611 Magic Kaito 1412 OP "Kimi no Matsu Sekai" by LAGOON
96. **,605 **2,991 Diamond no Ace Character Song Series Vol.5 Youichi Kuramochi "GO MY WAY" by Youichi Kuromachi (CV: Shintaro Asanuma)
100. *,589 *28,261 Nanatsu no Taizai OP "Netsujou no Spectrum" by Ikimono-kagari (incl. in "Netsujou no Spectrum/Namida ga Kieru nara")
(cut-off 589)


CD Album
*7. 13,364 13,364 Nagi Yanagi "Polyomino"
17. *5,524 27,937 Sukima Switch "Sukima Switch" (incl. Haikyuu!! OP "Ah Yeah!!" and Naruto: Shippuuden Movie 7 - The Last ED "Hoshi no Utsuwa" album ver.)
19. *4,845 40,544 SCANDAL "HELLO WORLD" (incl. Pokemon XY: Hakai no Mayu to Diancie ED "Yoake no Ryuuseigun")
35. *2,785 35,162 SPYAIR "BEST" (incl. Haikyuu!! OP "Imagination", Samurai Flamenco OP "JUST ONE LIFE", Gintama Theme Songs, Mobile Suit Gundam AGE ED "My World", Bleach ED "Last Moment")
37. *2,735 *2,735 Sphere "Natsuiro Kiseki Complete Songs ~Ano Natsu no Kakera~"
40. *2,585 59,663 Mai Kuraki "Mai Kuraki BEST 151A -LOVE & HOPE-" (incl. older Detective Conan theme songs and new OP "DYNAMITE")
52. *1,933 13,490 Naruto: Shippuuden OP/ED "NARUTO SUPER SOUNDS" by Various Artists
59. *1,621 77,688 GLAY "MUSIC LIFE" (incl. Diamond no Ace OP "Hashire! Mirai")
64. *1,401 *6,270 Hoozuki no Reitetsu OP & OST "Hyakki Yakou ~Jigoku no Sata mo YOU Shidai~" by Jigoku no Sata All Stars & Peach Maki
80. *1,132 *1,132  "Sumire Uesaka presents "80-nendai Idol Kayou Ketteiban" by Various Artists
92. **,992 19,978 Choutokkyuu "RING" (incl. Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V OP "Believe X Believe")
94. **,982 **,982 Aikatsu! TV Series and Movie OST "Aikatsu! no Ongaku!! 03" by MONACA
(cut-off 982)

Source: Oricon Youtaiju

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CD Single
*3. 29,399 *29,399 Sword Art Online II EDs "Shirushi/No More Time Machine" by LiSA (incl. in "Shirushi")
20. *4,320 **4,320 Hoozuki no Reitetsu OVA ED "Enma Daiou ni Kiite Goran" by Sumire Uesaka
35. *1,961 *25,863 Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso OP "Hikaru nara" by Goose house
37. *1,927 *14,396 Kono Danshi, Sekika ni Nayandemasu ED "glitter wish" by Shouta Aoi (incl. in "Himitsu no Kuchizuke")
46. *1,555 **1,555 Fairy Tail (2014) OP "Mysterious Magic" by Do As Infinity
50. *1,415 *19,411 Nanatsu no Taizai ED "7 -seven-" by FLOW x GRANRODEO
57. *1,230 *24,160 Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) ED "believe" by Kalafina
89. **,660 *19,858 Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) OP "ideal white" by Mashiro Ayano
94. **,630 **5,611 Magic Kaito 1412 OP "Kimi no Matsu Sekai" by LAGOON

CD Album
*7. 13,364 13,364 Nagi Yanagi "Polyomino"
40. *2,585 59,663 Mai Kuraki "Mai Kuraki BEST 151A -LOVE & HOPE-" (incl. older Detective Conan theme songs and new OP "DYNAMITE")


Not much new CDs interests me. I'm glad those stay.

For those who are interested, the first volumes ranking resumes next week.
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Unfortunate that Kaguya-hime no Monogatari is not selling very well (for a Ghibli film). The current state of anime is Takahata getting beatdown by Urobutcher although I will be watching Expelled From Paradise in the near future...
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Expelled From Paradise topping the charts as expected the only bad news is there are no english fansubs of it yet
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For anyone interested, hpulley and I have posted the 2014 Yearly CD sales (with cumulative sales if released before the covered period): http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1324661.

The 2014 period covered is 2013/12/09~2014/12/07 according to Oricon Youtaiju, so these yearly figures will no longer change, except cumulative sales of course (which are current as of 2014/12/07).

The list consists of the TOP 322 singles/TOP 132 albums, which includes all anime releases above the 4,000 sales threshold. With experience from last year's list, the Top 500 All-Genre CD singles list released by Oricon did not get close to the 4,000 sales threshold.

This list does not include the most mainstream artists, who have little association with anime, but it does include seiyuu singles and albums, because they have huge association with anime. Basically the criteria is similar to what 2ch considers relevant (excluding releases such as Disney's Frozen album for example).

For anyone wondering, the 2014 Yearly BD/DVD/Music BD/Music DVD sales are not out yet.
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Dec 16, 2014 1:38 AM
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Rakuen Tsuihou: Expelled From Paradise looks good.
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Wow, there's barely any TV anime on the list.

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Dec 16, 2014 1:54 AM
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EFP shipped 30k copies, and was sold out in a matter of moments on day one, re-stock on December 19.
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Rakuen Tsuihou: Expelled From Paradise topping the chart as expected.
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Detective Conan Movie 18 doing well in the DVD list.Rank 10 not bad.that was the most enjoyable conan movie I have seen.

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Nice to see strike witches doing so well.

I was a bit busy for the last month(WoW), so I had no time to check thee sales projections. But I was curious about them, so here is the updated list. Below 2k is ommitted.



*Only the amazon version is on stalker, so I have no idea what the projections for the non-amazon version is.

Week 51(coming out this week)'


*6.3k Psycho-Pass Season 2
*4.4k YuYuYu
*3.0k Trinity Seven.
*2.0k Terra Formars


Week 52(christmass week)

18.7k Gundam G
*9.8k Amagi Briljant park.
*5.7k Cross Ange
*4.4k Shirobako
*3.8k Le Fruit de la Grisaia
*3.5k Gugure! Kokkuri-san
*2.6k Ore, Twintails ni Narimasu.
*2.8k Madan no Ou to Vanadis

Week 3


*1.4k Danna Ga Nani


Week 4


*8.7k Yowamushi Pedal GRANDE ROAD


Week 5

*6.6k Shingeki no Bahamut
*3.7k Mushishi S2 Part 2
*3.5k Nanatsu no Taizai
*3.0k Log Horizon S2
*2.0k Sora no Method


Misc dates


11.0k Fate/Stay nigth(2014)*(!)

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Dec 16, 2014 4:44 AM

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ha at the ghibil film

this is what u get when u make fun of the only ppl buying anime
Dec 16, 2014 5:18 AM

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What a beautiful list!
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27. *2,725 **2,725 Aikatsu! Movie ED "Kagayaki no Etude" by STAR☆ANIS


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Expelled From Paradise up there as expected, still funny they only wanted to ship 10k when they sold 30k copies on day 1, won't be suprised if it breaks 100k, if the copies printed allow it.

Those projections look good too.
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12. **,550 ***,550 Uchuusen Sagittarius Blu-ray BOX Limited Edition

This is cute. Better than Youkai Watch and its OP would ever be :P

Can't wait to see Saint Seiya and USY 2199 movies.

As for Kaguya-hime, ... there's no good left unpunished.
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Hmmm, I likey XD

*3. 29,399 *29,399 Sword Art Online II EDs "Shirushi/No More Time Machine" by LiSA (incl. in "Shirushi")
14. *8,741 *32,535 Sword Art Online II OP "courage" by Haruka Tomatsu

I hope people return their kaguya hime discs when they realize it's sh!t and want their money back :(
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Purse Owner 4 The Golden Animation on 5th place? That's surprising
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this is what u get when u make fun of the only ppl buying anime


It's not making fun, its's the truth. But anyway, that's likely not the reason why the movie is not selling well.
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ha at the ghibil film

this is what u get when u make fun of the only ppl buying anime

Ghibli is mainstream, it's like Disney, the people who buy their movies aren't the same people who buy TV anime.
The movie just sucked, Ghibli has always been a mixed bag, and lately they have been pretty bad.
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How do Takahata's movies usually sell, anyway? I always had the impression that as far as Ghibli directors go, Takahata's just never had anything approaching the sort of outstanding sales Miyazaki has to begin with. I have no numbers to back that up though, just my own impressions, so seeing actual sales data for his older movies would be really interesting.
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Thanks so much for the chart !
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Tsuioku no Koukai surprisingly selling well
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Wow, there's barely any TV anime on the list.
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Expelled From Paradise up there as expected, still funny they only wanted to ship 10k when they sold 30k copies on day 1, won't be suprised if it breaks 100k, if the copies printed allow it.

Those projections look good too.


I thought these were for first week sales not first day sales.
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Paulo27 said:
Expelled From Paradise up there as expected, still funny they only wanted to ship 10k when they sold 30k copies on day 1, won't be suprised if it breaks 100k, if the copies printed allow it.

Those projections look good too.


I thought these were for first week sales not first day sales.


They are first day sales if the anime was only sold during the first day, which is the case.
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Seems like Expelled From Paradise is pretty good... Nice.
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Paulo27 said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:


I thought these were for first week sales not first day sales.


They are first day sales if the anime was only sold during the first day, which is the case.

It was released on 10 December.

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Paulo27 said:


They are first day sales if the anime was only sold during the first day, which is the case.

It was released on 10 December.


And it sold out on day 1.
They haven't restocked since I don't think.
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Paulo27 said:
rederoin said:

It was released on 10 December.


And it sold out on day 1.
They haven't restocked since I don't think.


I doubt it's going to sell 100K. This is first week sales not first day sales. It's been in stock at Amazon. It is ranked 1 place above the Love Live! 4th concert BD on the 2014 Amazon Yearly Rankings which did ~42k sales. It is not far off this, so 100K is so unlikely. I doubt it is much more storefront biased than the Love Live! concert BD.

Daily Rankings don't indicate much of a stock issue at all. Maybe at storefront, but it still ranked well on release day (which is the major storefront sales day).

BD総合デイリー
**8 **9 *10 *11 *12 *13 *14  週
**2 *16 **6 **6 **4 **4 **3 | -- | アナと雪の女王 MovieNEX
*** **4 **3 **4 **1 **2 **4 | -- | 楽園追放 Expelled from Paradise
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Ejc said:
Paulo27 said:


And it sold out on day 1.
They haven't restocked since I don't think.


I doubt it's going to sell 100K. This is first week sales not first day sales. It's been in stock at Amazon. It is ranked 1 place above the Love Live! 4th concert BD on the 2014 Amazon Yearly Rankings which did ~42k sales. It is not far off this, so 100K is so unlikely. I doubt it is much more storefront biased than the Love Live! concert BD.

Daily Rankings don't indicate much of a stock issue at all. Maybe at storefront, but it still ranked well on release day (which is the major storefront sales day).

BD総合デイリー
**8 **9 *10 *11 *12 *13 *14  週
**2 *16 **6 **6 **4 **4 **3 | -- | アナと雪の女王 MovieNEX
*** **4 **3 **4 **1 **2 **4 | -- | 楽園追放 Expelled from Paradise


It ranked 5th for December 15 which is it's lowest yet while Frozen franked #1 again with it's insane longevity. I find it funny that EFP's Oricon rank seems to have been about 3rd place for the weekly average even though it's Amazon ranking has consistently been either #1 or #2 for about a week now. Maybe it just has an extremely heavy Amazon bias. Also it's taking off popularity wise with only 3 weeks to go to release seems to have caused it's initial sales estimate from Amazon to be overestimated since Stalker works by essentially just adding a flat rate of points to something which is less accurate the higher up in the amazon charts it goes. I think it's something like:

1st place (2800)
2nd place (1200)
3rd place (800)

or some such thing. Could be totally off about that though. Also I'm not sure but I wonder if maybe people are confusing stock issues with this special version of the disc that went up on Amazon a couple weeks ago that has an added poster and will ship on December 19th instead and is estimated at about 2,000 stalker points or so. I remember hearing Animate and some smaller retail stores were selling out on day 1 in any case, but if Amazon sold out I have yet to see any indication of it. I remember when it happened with Love Live volume 1 there was a special notice and apology about it shipping a bit later.
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Nice to see strike witches doing so well.

I was a bit busy for the last month(WoW), so I had no time to check thee sales projections. But I was curious about them, so here is the updated list. Below 2k is ommitted.



*Only the amazon version is on stalker, so I have no idea what the projections for the non-amazon version is.



well I made this average setimate + guess chart, a little different from you

this season selling like shit ...
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Ejc said:


I doubt it's going to sell 100K. This is first week sales not first day sales. It's been in stock at Amazon. It is ranked 1 place above the Love Live! 4th concert BD on the 2014 Amazon Yearly Rankings which did ~42k sales. It is not far off this, so 100K is so unlikely. I doubt it is much more storefront biased than the Love Live! concert BD.

Daily Rankings don't indicate much of a stock issue at all. Maybe at storefront, but it still ranked well on release day (which is the major storefront sales day).

BD総合デイリー
**8 **9 *10 *11 *12 *13 *14  週
**2 *16 **6 **6 **4 **4 **3 | -- | アナと雪の女王 MovieNEX
*** **4 **3 **4 **1 **2 **4 | -- | 楽園追放 Expelled from Paradise


It ranked 5th for December 15 which is it's lowest yet while Frozen franked #1 again with it's insane longevity. I find it funny that EFP's Oricon rank seems to have been about 3rd place for the weekly average even though it's Amazon ranking has consistently been either #1 or #2 for about a week now. Maybe it just has an extremely heavy Amazon bias. Also it's taking off popularity wise with only 3 weeks to go to release seems to have caused it's initial sales estimate from Amazon to be overestimated since Stalker works by essentially just adding a flat rate of points to something which is less accurate the higher up in the amazon charts it goes. I think it's something like:

1st place (2800)
2nd place (1200)
3rd place (800)

or some such thing. Could be totally off about that though. Also I'm not sure but I wonder if maybe people are confusing stock issues with this special version of the disc that went up on Amazon a couple weeks ago that has an added poster and will ship on December 19th instead and is estimated at about 2,000 stalker points or so. I remember hearing Animate and some smaller retail stores were selling out on day 1 in any case, but if Amazon sold out I have yet to see any indication of it. I remember when it happened with Love Live volume 1 there was a special notice and apology about it shipping a bit later.


I did also heard from symbv that it was out of stock in a lot of places at storefront, but I would think that the majority of people would shift to buying off an internet retailer such as Amazon, since it actually in stock. Seems ridiculous they would wait it out, unless they don't have a credit card or something to order online, or they pre-ordered at storefront and haven't gotten they copy yet.
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Ejc said:
Kaioshin_Sama said:


It ranked 5th for December 15 which is it's lowest yet while Frozen franked #1 again with it's insane longevity. I find it funny that EFP's Oricon rank seems to have been about 3rd place for the weekly average even though it's Amazon ranking has consistently been either #1 or #2 for about a week now. Maybe it just has an extremely heavy Amazon bias. Also it's taking off popularity wise with only 3 weeks to go to release seems to have caused it's initial sales estimate from Amazon to be overestimated since Stalker works by essentially just adding a flat rate of points to something which is less accurate the higher up in the amazon charts it goes. I think it's something like:

1st place (2800)
2nd place (1200)
3rd place (800)

or some such thing. Could be totally off about that though. Also I'm not sure but I wonder if maybe people are confusing stock issues with this special version of the disc that went up on Amazon a couple weeks ago that has an added poster and will ship on December 19th instead and is estimated at about 2,000 stalker points or so. I remember hearing Animate and some smaller retail stores were selling out on day 1 in any case, but if Amazon sold out I have yet to see any indication of it. I remember when it happened with Love Live volume 1 there was a special notice and apology about it shipping a bit later.


I did also heard from symbv that it was out of stock in a lot of places at storefront, but I would think that the majority of people would shift to buying off an internet retailer such as Amazon, since it actually in stock. Seems ridiculous they would wait it out, unless they don't have a credit card or something to order online, or they pre-ordered at storefront and haven't gotten they copy yet.


It would explain why it's been ranking so strongly on Amazon for a while now for sure. I mean usually when you get the stuff that ranks #1 for this long it's stuff that does like 50K+ week one like Love Live 2nd Season Vol 1 not stuff that does 28K first week. It's weird how the distributors said they'd estimated about 30K numbers shipped first week and how spot on that number was though. Also if anything I've heard the opposite of stock problems with Amazon and that people have reported ordering one copy and receiving as many as 12 by mistake. I wonder if those numbers count towards sales or not.
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Not much is selling decently, this season is a complete failure in the sales department and just as bad as Winter. I'm glad Cross Ange is selling though, but G Reconstituted shit should not be selling 20k, it's dreadful made worse by Tomino acting unprofessional, you don't talk down to your fanbase no matter how famous you are, keep it to yourself. Gundam is in decline when it comes to the anime, you may want to stay away from any future series that's not UC, my recommendation is to stick with the games, from what I seen, Gundam Breaker 2 looks excellent and has some kickass new features.
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Not much is selling decently, this season is a complete failure in the sales department and just as bad as Winter. I'm glad Cross Ange is selling though, but G Reconstituted shit should not be selling 20k, it's dreadful made worse by Tomino acting unprofessional, you don't talk down to your fanbase no matter how famous you are, keep it to yourself. Gundam is in decline when it comes to the anime, you may want to stay away from any future series that's not UC, my recommendation is to stick with the games, from what I seen, Gundam Breaker 2 looks excellent and has some kickass new features.


IMO you have it backwards, it's the fanbase that's actually the one in decline. Then again I think a lot of the points Tomino have actually have merit even if I don't agree 100% with him and I never felt he was talking down to his fanbase so much as saying how he sees the current state of popular culture and what people are spending their time on. It's the anime fanbases inability to self-reflect and insistence on burying itself in supporting and championing things that really just flatter them and their limited world view more than anything else that are the biggest crises facing anime and why so many shows are so crappy and kind of pointless now.

And if anything Cross Ange is one of the worst works Sunrise has ever put out in so many ways from themes, to scripting to characterization and just bad art. I don't understand anime fandoms current hatred of and rejection of shows like G-Reco other than it just so happens to present a set of themes and ideas based in current Japanese politics that they can neither understand nor want to take any interest in because it has nothing to do with typical otaku themed stuff that comprises the vast majority of current late night anime which I will say I think you are correct in saying is just doing horribly for a Fall season and IMO justifiably so. This is a pretty damn tepid fall season if not year for anime that has shown me just how badly the medium has stagnated and become reliant on advertising and big brand names to keep itself propped up as being even so much as a relevant sub culture. The same old standby's will do okay at best but everything else is pretty much doomed as per usual.

And anyway I definitely agree at least that video games are doing a hell of a lot better than anime, but not because any particular franchise is in decline, there's just a whole lot more going on of interest. If anything is in decline it's the anime industry and the effort level it's willing to put into actually creating new and fresh content, but that's not entirely it's fault so much as any time it makes any attempt at it it's pretty much guaranteed to blow up in investors faces. The 80's and 90's were a good era for experimentation with anime and getting new ideas out there with an audience that was starting to become more open minded but monopolies and an ever shrinking audience of non-hardcore otaku types who will even bother to take an interest in anime have seen the industry turn to Light Novels, Visual Novels and a handful of popular staffers that seem to have the eyes and ears of the hardcore otaku audience to even have a hope in hell at accomplishing much of anything. Meanwhile you have games like Bravely Default and Dark Souls 2 that just about anyone from any walk of life can approach and enjoy despite being made by Japanese companies.
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Hoppy said:
Not much is selling decently, this season is a complete failure in the sales department and just as bad as Winter. I'm glad Cross Ange is selling though, but G Reconstituted shit should not be selling 20k, it's dreadful made worse by Tomino acting unprofessional, you don't talk down to your fanbase no matter how famous you are, keep it to yourself. Gundam is in decline when it comes to the anime, you may want to stay away from any future series that's not UC, my recommendation is to stick with the games, from what I seen, Gundam Breaker 2 looks excellent and has some kickass new features.


IMO you have it backwards, it's the fanbase that's actually the one in decline. Then again I think a lot of the points Tomino have actually have merit even if I don't agree 100% with him and I never felt he was talking down to his fanbase so much as saying how he sees the current state of popular culture and what people are spending their time on. It's the anime fanbases inability to self-reflect and insistence on burying itself in supporting and championing things that really just flatter them and their limited world view more than anything else that are the biggest crises facing anime and why so many shows are so crappy and kind of pointless now.

And if anything Cross Ange is one of the worst works Sunrise has ever put out in so many ways from themes, to scripting to characterization and just bad art. I don't understand anime fandoms current hatred of and rejection of shows like G-Reco other than it just so happens to present a set of themes and ideas based in current Japanese politics that they can neither understand nor want to take any interest in because it has nothing to do with typical otaku themed stuff that comprises the vast majority of current late night anime which I will say I think you are correct in saying is just doing horribly for a Fall season and IMO justifiably so. This is a pretty damn tepid fall season if not year for anime that has shown me just how badly the medium has stagnated and become reliant on advertising and big brand names to keep itself propped up as being even so much as a relevant sub culture. The same old standby's will do okay at best but everything else is pretty much doomed as per usual.

And anyway I definitely agree at least that video games are doing a hell of a lot better than anime, but not because any particular franchise is in decline, there's just a whole lot more going on of interest. If anything is in decline it's the anime industry and the effort level it's willing to put into actually creating new and fresh content, but that's not entirely it's fault so much as any time it makes any attempt at it it's pretty much guaranteed to blow up in investors faces. The 80's and 90's were a good era for experimentation with anime and getting new ideas out there with an audience that was starting to become more open minded but monopolies and an ever shrinking audience of non-hardcore otaku types who will even bother to take an interest in anime have seen the industry turn to Light Novels, Visual Novels and a handful of popular staffers that seem to have the eyes and ears of the hardcore otaku audience to even have a hope in hell at accomplishing much of anything. Meanwhile you have games like Bravely Default and Dark Souls 2 that just about anyone from any walk of life can approach and enjoy despite being made by Japanese companies.


It's sad to see the casuals and normal fans go away for the hardcore crowd, the anime industry would be balanced and would make more money if there were more anime for casual fans along with anime meant for Otaku.

Cross Ange is so-so very hit or miss on the execution and the characters (I have a hard time liking a good number of the characters as they are batshit insane or bitches) but the worst anime from Sunrise, that's a stretch. Cross Ange suffered from the first 3 episodes being weaksauce overall and slow pickup of quality overall, also the rehashing ideas from Gundam Seed, it's like they were running out of ideas in parts. However it's nowhere near as bad as Valvrave, that show was abysmal compared to Cross Ange.

As for the industry turning to LNs and VNs, I find it disappointing myself but not because of the mediums themselves, but what they are adapting from those mediums. Finding something that isn't a harem, ecchi, some Otaku-orientated action LN (most likely with a ton of ecchi), or with little sister themes is almost impossible today from LNs and any variety is almost non-existent for VNs, they just adapt the most popular VN at the moment whither it's shit or not instead of the many good ones out there.


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Urghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :(

G-Reco is like Gundam AGE, made to attract new people into gundam especially young people and only the filthy elitists and alzheimic dinosaurs complain about them, G reco is pretty good but of course the bais prevents them too admit it.
And other gundams series with more mature content is being made along with these new ones, but let's ignore that right?

Cross Ange and the other anime are perfectly fine, if you want masterpiece level writing and fate stay level of animation in every anime your f*cking stupid, just go watch reality TV and leave anime to the real fans.

And art style is not animation btw
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Hoppy said:

It's sad to see the casuals and normal fans go away for the hardcore crowd, the anime industry would be balanced and would make more money if there were more anime for casual fans along with anime meant for Otaku.


Well I'm glad to see someone else that thinks this way. I feel that anime was starting to get this crowd during the early part of the 2000's but things like the western market crash and late night anime just deciding to really push the moe and light novel stuff from the second half of the 2000's on seems to have slowly scared off a lot of the more average everyday folk who may not necessarily want to have to learn the ins and outs of otaku culture in order to understand and get the most value of what they're watching. Again I just don't think the people that are fully hardcore into that sort of thing fully appreciate what it's like to not necessarily be into the big LN/VN titles that are getting pushed.

Cross Ange is so-so very hit or miss on the execution and the characters (I have a hard time liking a good number of the characters as they are batshit insane or bitches) but the worst anime from Sunrise, that's a stretch. Cross Ange suffered from the first 3 episodes being weaksauce overall and slow pickup of quality overall, also the rehashing ideas from Gundam Seed, it's like they were running out of ideas in parts. However it's nowhere near as bad as Valvrave, that show was abysmal compared to Cross Ange.


For me it's just one of their most inexcusably flat out incompetent since the last time Fukuda headed up a project as a producer. It's not all bad but man I really don't get the sense he or Nerima Studio are trying all that much with it.

As for the industry turning to LNs and VNs, I find it disappointing myself but not because of the mediums themselves, but what they are adapting from those mediums. Finding something that isn't a harem, ecchi, some Otaku-orientated action LN (most likely with a ton of ecchi), or with little sister themes is almost impossible today from LNs and any variety is almost non-existent for VNs, they just adapt the most popular VN at the moment whither it's shit or not instead of the many good ones out there.


The industry is currently just choosing from whatever the best selling LN/VN's are rather than what is best suited for or ready for TV and relying on the install base to make up the profit margin. I feel that's how we're ending up with stuff like Mahouka for example which IMO is just too dialogue and exposition heavy to really make for compelling television, but it's a best seller so that's what they pick. Also when it comes to VN's outside of Fate they just don't seem to want to pick any of the more interesting ones. I mean some people love KEY and we're apparently getting more of that but I just kind of don't so even something like that while it's huge for others isn't so much for me. I'd totally be down for a Mahou Tsukai adaptation, G Senjou no Maou or even Muv-Luv Alternative if given that big budget treatment the bigger VN titles seem to be getting but nobody seems to want to do them so....

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Urghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :(

G-Reco is like Gundam AGE, made to attract new people into gundam especially young people and only the filthy elitists and alzheimic dinosaurs complain about them, G reco is pretty good but of course the bais prevents them too admit it.
And other gundams series with more mature content is being made along with these new ones, but let's ignore that right?


I guess that's...one way to put it....I think you're onto something but like are you trying to rile people up or something?

Cross Ange and the other anime are perfectly fine, if you want masterpiece level writing and fate stay level of animation in every anime your f*cking stupid, just go watch reality TV and leave anime to the real fans.


I would have to disagree. Cross Ange could be fine, but it's choosing to go the lowest common denominator route with how it chooses to depict it's story and characters and insists on humiliation and fan service in place of character development and I'm not at all convinced that it's going to come together much as a result of how it refuses to take anything remotely seriously. The art quality control is abysmal, especially for a Sunrise anime and no I don't want masterpiece level writing or "fate stay level of animation" (Honestly I don't even find that show to be the absolute be all end all art and animation style so I'd appreciate people not making that assumption) but it's below even serviceable levels IMO and again especially for Sunrise.

So basically your whole baiting confrontational shtick and trying to use the most inflammatory language and framing conceivably possible in this situation doesn't really hold much water so much as you are making these wild assumptions that I think and look at things exactly the same as your average MALer or "real fans" as you seem to be implying. Like you could not have conceivably come up with more of a stock response that just does not fit the situation whatsoever if you had tried man.
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Nice to see strike witches doing so well.

I was a bit busy for the last month(WoW), so I had no time to check thee sales projections. But I was curious about them, so here is the updated list. Below 2k is ommitted.



*Only the amazon version is on stalker, so I have no idea what the projections for the non-amazon version is.



well I made this average setimate + guess chart, a little different from you

this season selling like shit ...


OMG. Cross Ange is going to sell 5k - 7k? YES! Didn't expect that at all. LOL!
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30

It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist.
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OMG. Cross Ange is going to sell 5k - 7k? YES! Didn't expect that at all. LOL!


If you see the summer and spring this year average sale chart, you will realize that there are at least 6 anime each season that have higher sale than Cross Ange. This fall even seems to sell less than last year winter
(well of course it won't sell less than last year winter )
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Lol at ppl taking estimates seriously when every single time it turns out to be a gross overestimation or underestimation
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^ I predict amagi brilliant park breaking 10K+ in a month :)

All these sales mean nothing really, seems like the creators are only focusing on the source material and merchandise sales, the anime sales are irrelevant.
I don't know if that's the right direction to go or not but whatever, I'm sure none of these anime will lose that much money they expected these sales in the first place and if it's a hit then it's a bonus for them.

Kaioshin_Sama said:
[So basically your whole baiting confrontational shtick and trying to use the most inflammatory language and framing conceivably possible in this situation doesn't really hold much water so much as you are making these wild assumptions that I think and look at things exactly the same as your average MALer or "real fans" as you seem to be implying. Like you could not have conceivably come up with more of a stock response that just does not fit the situation whatsoever if you had tried man.

I've gotta cut off all the bs you're spouting before some people believe it.
That gundam thing has been said alot of times they're focusing on new fans and old fans, how have you not heard of it? :Odoubtful:O
Go complain to american cartoon creators please, cause the art style and animation SUCKS, that's the real tragedy.
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moonnya said:
Zapredon said:


OMG. Cross Ange is going to sell 5k - 7k? YES! Didn't expect that at all. LOL!


If you see the summer and spring this year average sale chart, you will realize that there are at least 6 anime each season that have higher sale than Cross Ange. This fall even seems to sell less than last year winter
(well of course it won't sell less than last year winter )


Yeah I know it's astonishingly bad, especially for the shows that lack the backing of the bigger producers. At least that Yuuki Yuna show looks like it might pull off a miracle, especially considering it had almost no buzz, hype or advertising going in and lacks a major producer as a backer to steal all the money and potential it might have for themselves. Anime definitely needs more examples like that for sure that just sort of do it entirely on their own as original franchises through word of mouth and winning it's audience over the old fashioned way. Other than that though yeah extremely grim for a Fall season.

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Lol at ppl taking estimates seriously when every single time it turns out to be a gross overestimation or underestimation


Only when a show ranks really high for a long time against other popular titles or when there just isn't that much popular being preordered period. Other than that stalker can be surprisingly accurate with it's predictions.

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I've gotta cut off all the bs you're spouting before some people believe it.
That gundam thing has been said alot of times they're focusing on new fans and old fans, how have you not heard of it? :Odoubtful:O
Go complain to american cartoon creators please, cause the art style and animation SUCKS, that's the real tragedy.


Why are you replying like you're trying to quote some memes or something. Almost nothing you're saying to me makes any sense whatsoever nor has any relevance to anything I'm saying or the topic at hand. Are you sure you're okay?
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Kaioshin_Sama said:
Moodie said:
Lol at ppl taking estimates seriously when every single time it turns out to be a gross overestimation or underestimation


Only when a show ranks really high for a long time against other popular titles or when there just isn't that much popular being preordered period. Other than that stalker can be surprisingly accurate with it's predictions.


And for the underestimations, it usually happens for anime with major storefront bias such as many female oriented series at Animate, or other rare series such as Love Live! at Animate, gamers, and softmap.
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And EFP is sold out yet again on Amazon. Oh boy this just keeps getting better and better.
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And EFP is sold out yet again on Amazon. Oh boy this just keeps getting better and better.


What does? Honestly I'm still baffled as to what Japan is seeing in this movie and yet at the same time I'm kind of not when I think of what the audience for anime is like now and how they just seem so content and easily placated. Like it looks just so utterly average and all I keep hearing is that the heroine is cute and hot and the main dude is kind of cool and it has some glitzy visuals and good CGI but like what about that has people losing their minds over it? Is it the Hollywood Hype effect Japan seems to be mastering?

I know I'm sounding like a broken record here but I really just have totally lost the ability to understand why what's popular in anime culture is anymore and how anime is just kind of done at this point for people that want something a little more than just fanservice and the next big Gen Urobuchi title even if other people can't see it or don't give a fuck cause they're so used to reveling in it all. It'd all just seem so random if there weren't a certain commonality of factors that seem to coalesce around rewarding greed and mediocrity over everything else. It's just about the most discouraging thing ever. I don't hate anime but I cannot be pleased with where the culture is at right now and just cheer for this stuff the same way others do. By all looks Japan just really wants to kill any potential it's own animation industry has to be anything more than disposable erotica centered around some basic set of themes and ideas that have no relevance to anyone other than hardcore otaku.

Like others have said though at least stuff like Kaguya that doesn't revel in the mediocrity and constant celebration of all things that are otaku is getting some critical attention overseas. Anno apparently just said the other day too that he thinks by the next decade Southeast Asia is going to overtake Japan in terms of it's animation industry and the way things are going I can totally see it. Japan just does not want to get any better and broaden it's horizons and is pretty much hopeless at this rate. That said it's getting kind of hard to care anymore where things end up at this point and it looks like the odds are good I'll be spending a lot more time than I already even am right now with my other hobbies by next year and just kind of let the new audience deal with and find whatever it is their going to find and take out of the new wave of anime culture since currently nothing outside of a couple of OVA's looks particularly interesting for the first half of the year.

If things take a more interesting turn in the near future though with regard to anime great, if not I'll hardly say I'm surprised. In any case the highlight of the anime year for me has definitely been Me!Me!Me! since it just so utterly perfectly encapsulates where anime and it's fanbase is right now in terms of it's relationship in such a blunt and layered way that it's hard to believe it's mainly just supposed to be a music video. To bad most people kind of just miss the point of it all and take it as more fap fodder lol. :/
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And EFP is sold out yet again on Amazon. Oh boy this just keeps getting better and better.

Apparently Yuuki Yuuna also sold out on Amazon, looking forward to next week's thread now.
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