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Balious said: The one thing that annoyed me in this episode. Was Hajime and Tsugumi. I am on Hajime's side for the fact the person pulling the string goes to hell as well, but I'm sure he does know about this yet doesnt say anything like that which actually likely stopped people more often. I can see where Tsugumi is coming from but that whole argument could of easily been avoided. While I can see where shes coming from I also disagree as the person pulling the string is still ending up a murderer them self. I am absolutely infuriated at how Tsugumi completely disregarded her friend's soul, that if she had pulled the string, she would have gone to hell as well. |
| Did we just get an open ending? Wat. Hajime is getting annoying by prying into other people's business. Look at what he had done. Now that girl's life is a living hell. |
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| Hey, hey, what is this dumb as snail reporter doing? I'm sure if say, someone brutally murdered his daughter in front of him or indirectly killed her, he'll want to seek revenge... maybe not through hell link but by other means, damn hypocrite. At least his daughter is more open minded to the process, if someone wants to send someone to hell faster and suffer when their time comes, then he has no right to stop them. |
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| I can understand people not liking Hajime's "Revenge is meaningless" thing. But siding with Hell Girl's way? Condemning both yourself and another person to hell? *sigh*... People. |
| The reporter is NOT good at arguing his point. You'd think, as a journalist, he'd be better with his words. He never even points out that the person who pulls the red string is sent to Hell themselves. He could have told his daughter that if that the you girl had pulled the thread, she'd never see her father again in the afterlife. He could have told her that the bad guy would go to Hell some day anyway. He could have told her that the best revenge is living a great life despite everything the rotten person had done to destroy her happiness. All he did is say stuff like there's stuff that happens in life and you can't want revenge cause you just gotta get over it....BLECH! No wonder he doesn't have a steady reporter job. |
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| Tsumugi finally get bitchslapped. Poor Yuko. I wonder about other straw dolls. Why Ai only use old man? |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| Not sure if people who say she should've pulled the string really understand what it means.He is a horrible person yes but its just like many other people? the more people you encounter the more bad ones you'll see. YOu cant send all of them to hell now can you? YOu have to deal with them yourself instead of relying on someone to send them to hell. Or do you really think that those people in earlier episodes who pulled the string and sent so called bad people to hell won't discover more awful people as they live? Haha don't make me laugh. And also [b] its not for a person to decide if someone's so bad that he needs to be put to hell. We're humans too remember? and there's a thing called a person's point of view. And we view this from their's point of view maybe from that guy's point of view its the girl's father who is at fault and deserves hell. So im happy that this girl didnt pull the thread and even though Hajime cant really properly convey the reasoning for it he is right. Its like how that girl in ep 19 described Hell girl is an emergency exit And even though she sent that doll mother to hell there is now her husband who is the same. SO instead of seeking for an emergency exit you gotta deal with your problems yourself. The girl in this episode will try to live without using Hell girl. And its not about whether you are going to hell or not Im sure most people will just condemn everyone to hell if there wasnt that "You are going to hell too" part included. And that's just sad. |
Hirugiku said: Not sure if people who say she should've pulled the string really understand what it means.He is a horrible person yes but its just like many other people? the more people you encounter the more bad ones you'll see. YOu cant send all of them to hell now can you? YOu have to deal with them yourself instead of relying on someone to send them to hell. Or do you really think that those people in earlier episodes who pulled the string and sent so called bad people to hell won't discover more awful people as they live? Haha don't make me laugh. And also [b] its not for a person to decide if someone's so bad that he needs to be put to hell. We're humans too remember? and there's a thing called a person's point of view. And we view this from their's point of view maybe from that guy's point of view its the girl's father who is at fault and deserves hell. So im happy that this girl didnt pull the thread and even though Hajime cant really properly convey the reasoning for it he is right. Its like how that girl in ep 19 described Hell girl is an emergency exit And even though she sent that doll mother to hell there is now her husband who is the same. SO instead of seeking for an emergency exit you gotta deal with your problems yourself. The girl in this episode will try to live without using Hell girl. And its not about whether you are going to hell or not Im sure most people will just condemn everyone to hell if there wasnt that "You are going to hell too" part included. And that's just sad. I agree,but what really gets to me is Hajime what he is saying is right but hes not making an effort to help the situation,like why in the hell didnt he offer the girl a place to stay he just left her in an orphanage isnt she the daughter of you friend,everyone thinks she did not pulled the string but i think they left it open i mean just look at the expression on her face. |
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hack5 said: Hirugiku said: Not sure if people who say she should've pulled the string really understand what it means.He is a horrible person yes but its just like many other people? the more people you encounter the more bad ones you'll see. YOu cant send all of them to hell now can you? YOu have to deal with them yourself instead of relying on someone to send them to hell. Or do you really think that those people in earlier episodes who pulled the string and sent so called bad people to hell won't discover more awful people as they live? Haha don't make me laugh. And also [b] its not for a person to decide if someone's so bad that he needs to be put to hell. We're humans too remember? and there's a thing called a person's point of view. And we view this from their's point of view maybe from that guy's point of view its the girl's father who is at fault and deserves hell. So im happy that this girl didnt pull the thread and even though Hajime cant really properly convey the reasoning for it he is right. Its like how that girl in ep 19 described Hell girl is an emergency exit And even though she sent that doll mother to hell there is now her husband who is the same. SO instead of seeking for an emergency exit you gotta deal with your problems yourself. The girl in this episode will try to live without using Hell girl. And its not about whether you are going to hell or not Im sure most people will just condemn everyone to hell if there wasnt that "You are going to hell too" part included. And that's just sad. I agree,but what really gets to me is Hajime what he is saying is right but hes not making an effort to help the situation,like why in the hell didnt he offer the girl a place to stay he just left her in an orphanage isnt she the daughter of you friend,everyone thinks she did not pulled the string but i think they left it open i mean just look at the expression on her face. I wanted him to do that, to take her in i would've probably done that but you gotta keep in mind its Japanese and they have a different mindset so perhaps its not that socially acceptable to take in someone like that or they might be a different reason. |
| well bitch slapping a kid isn't right, but she did ask for it, most ppl lose it sometimes (i mean it happens between grownups to), but i guess its all good as long it doesn't become a habit or how to say it |
| Poor girl :( I mean that d-bag was REALLY asking for it -_- |
kageshi_hitomi said: As much as i was wishing for a NO PULL episode. Hajime sure asks the wrong questions... No one is going to care about the person going to hell once they pull the string. Human nature has a bloodlust like system, where anger can dictate void emotions for the enemies... but to sit there and say, "you're sending a person to hell, think about it" isnt the right thing to say. The real impact is, you will go to hell too... maybe your dad/mom is in heaven, pulling that string, means never seeing him again, never having comfort that the future still has a light at the end of the tunnel... but once you pull that string, a dark shroud will cover you. Like mentioned in a previous episode on what happens once you die... nothing will wash your actions clean. screw condemning your enemies, condemning the possibility that you have set your last actions, your future, or better outcome and even the feeling of foretelling your future, is what truly should be the driving point on why one should not pull the string. The one truly condemning someone to hell is themselves... not there enemies. Also Tsugumi, is starting to feel arrogant regardless of being the medium for enma... the girl obviously doesnt get the full picture, but obviously does know its the easy way to solving someones problem. I thought she would be the one to really get the big picture but she clearly doesnt... Totally agree. He almost never focused on the afterlife deal, people can kinda live their life with the mark, but to screw yourself over for _eternity_? "means never seeing him again" - exactly, she wouldn't meet her father and her father would never meet her, I think this would be a totally winning argument (unless JS's gang would totally break her mind). Maybe a counter point is that - besides hate a big importance in Jigoku Shouho play the notions of duty and obligation, which possibly might be still more of a thing in Japan nowadays than in some other places, but I still don't think this point is strong enough to refute the above, probably. There's actually one thing that perhaps less noticed - what person gains for free from the Hell Link (if they choose to believe it) is the confirmation that there is indeed an afterlife and Heaven and Hell (Enma mentions Heaven as well). That's a HUGE deal ... in real life, we don't have this information (some have faith, but that's as much as one can honestly say). For me - Tsugumi's attitude is redeemable because she's still young, thinking simply and in extremes. She kinda has similar mentality of most of the people that succumbed to the lure of the Hell Link... which makes me a bit worried... |
| Ohhh in this ep I HOPED she would pull it omg ... |
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GarLogan78 said: I am with Tsugumi on the Jigoku Shoujo issue. Her dad needs to stop trying to convince strangers to not take revenge. They have no reason to listen to them, and in most cases he doesn't even understand their situation. He is starting to get on my nerves by trying to stop Ai every time. Other than that, nice episode aha. u forget that the victim goes hell to eventually for it also ying and yang both are nessesary for balance, he is ying for ai's yang i wouln't wish this fait even on my enemy tsugumi is little kid who doesn't get the graviry of the situation seem u don't neither @Hsaki i agree mostly, issue is she is little kid abd kids can be dumb she like 8 or something @NoxArt i agree with u on tsugumi being redeemable |
Sugram22Jun 14, 2019 9:23 AM
| Everyone seems in the wrong here and this time the bad guy got away with it. |
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| Apparently it didn't end well. Hajime was so close. This would have been his first success. |
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones! |
WolfWood37 said: Everyone seems in the wrong here and this time the bad guy got away with it. did u see the girls eyes when she so the computer at the end, this dude ends up in hell off screen :D |
| With how bad Hajime's arguments against revenge were, it's a wonder the string didn't get pulled this episode. Moralising about how 'revenge is bad, mmmkay' and how she'll feel bad about banishing someone who's quite literally irredeemably evil really shouldn't have worked - they never did in the other episodes, after all - but somehow they did here. Why does he never just talk about the consequences she'd face? I don't know, I have a feeling being faced with the reality of being condemned to a literal eternity of constant agony in exchange for getting rid of one person would be a pretty good revenge deterrent. |
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| So the first episode we get where Hajime convinces someone not to pull the thread ends up in "She should've done it afterall" and then she probably does it offscreen Also holy shit Tsugumi is so f*cking annoying. I get it that she's supposed to play the devil's advocate but they really chose a bad character for this role. |
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