| It doesn't have to be a character with a huge amount of development, or development that you consider to be the most complex. Just something you found particularly interesting. :) For me I like Gon's. It just seemed pretty unusual and out of the ordinary, and I also like its unpredictability. |
| Meruem : killer fighting style |
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| Killua, I believe he's had the most development out of all HxH characters, such a grand extent of a change since we were first introduced to his character. 2nd would be Meruem; his development has been spectacular thus far. |
| Killua. Killua's reaction in the episode where Gon sits while watching Pitou heal Komugi just embodied his entire development up to that point so well. From being raised as an cold-blooded assassin to being so invested in his friendship with Gon. A simple reaction brought out so many conflicted feelings inside Killua and me, as a viewer. Gon's vengeful and Killua's melancholic expressions in the ending very effectively depict their change from the start of the show. |
| I would go with Killua. His development made me sympathize with him, which is a first in this series. I liked his look and state of mind regarding Gon development. And I liked his final decision regarding it. I however absolutely disliked his character development regarding Illumi, I can't believe it was just a Nen needle all along, takes away lot from the psychological impact of his brother control over him, plus it was draggy and annoying. So I specifically like his development in the invasion, and the election arc. Overall I don't really care for him to be honest. Other than him, I don't think I like any other character development, so he just wins by default I guess. |
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| Killua. And the ant king. I don't care much for them though. The characters I like don't need development. I doubt they will ever be given any. |
| Meruem, best shonen villain Gon's is the most unique main character in the genre, and the best. Killua's, shoot, knuckle's Royal Guards, Pakunoda, Kurapika, Genthru, Welfin, Gyro's, Knov, Toooo many to list one. Most overlooked, and most fascinating: ants collectively. Epic development en masse. For god's sake how can one handle an entire race and build them like that? |
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| Meruem. Watching the ants develop to be more and more "human" has been fascinating, and I think Meruem best represents this. He is a lot like a child, going by instinct at first but slowly but surely becoming more "aware" and questioning what his purpose is. His games with Komugi and growing to enjoy being challenged, wondering if he has the right as King to end a life on a whim, wanting to talk it out instead of facing Netero in a fight, and so on. Also, the parallel between him and Gon is great stuff. Just a pretty intriguing antagonist through and through, imo. My favorite part in an excellent arc. |
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| Hisoka. at first I was like: "Meh typical shonen clown character" then I was: "Holy shit best homosexual awesome character ever" |
| Kurapika. Although we have not seen that much development from him. |
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MissileSoup said: Valaskjalf said: Hisoka. at first I was like: "Meh typical shonen clown character" then I was: "Holy shit best homosexual awesome character ever" That's not development though. Hisoka has always been that way in the show. He develops his interest in a whimsical manner. |
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lebron181 said: Kite because he's by far the most professional Hunter we've seen in HxH series. He actually does hunting and contribute to the world by discovering new species and investigating the biology of the nature. Kite didn't have development. So... |
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tsudecimo said: lebron181 said: Kite because he's by far the most professional Hunter we've seen in HxH series. He actually does hunting and contribute to the world by discovering new species and investigating the biology of the nature. Kite didn't have development. So... He had, remember young Kite? |
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judals said: MissileSoup said: Valaskjalf said: Hisoka. at first I was like: "Meh typical shonen clown character" then I was: "Holy shit best homosexual awesome character ever" That's not development though. Hisoka has always been that way in the show. He develops his interest in a whimsical manner. Development in that sense, sure. But not character development. Just like Gon wanting revenge for Kite is not character development. Gon turning ruthless in his path to avenge Kite is character development. Now people are just listing their favorite characters. |
-Zeaos said: tsudecimo said: lebron181 said: Kite because he's by far the most professional Hunter we've seen in HxH series. He actually does hunting and contribute to the world by discovering new species and investigating the biology of the nature. Kite didn't have development. So... He had, remember young Kite? That's not character development. That's a back story. |
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MissileSoup said: judals said: MissileSoup said: Valaskjalf said: Hisoka. at first I was like: "Meh typical shonen clown character" then I was: "Holy shit best homosexual awesome character ever" That's not development though. Hisoka has always been that way in the show. He develops his interest in a whimsical manner. Development in that sense, sure. But not character development. Just like Gon wanting revenge for Kite is not character development. Gon turning ruthless in his path to avenge Kite is character development. Now people are just listing their favorite characters. Gon wanting revenge entails him turning into something else; development. Hisoka's unpredictable character lets him have this unique sort of development phases. Much as Machi described him. |
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MissileSoup said: Valaskjalf said: Hisoka. at first I was like: "Meh typical shonen clown character" then I was: "Holy shit best homosexual awesome character ever" That's not development though. Hisoka has always been that way in the show. He is not homosexual- he just got excited when there is a fight whether opponent is female or man |
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tsudecimo said: -Zeaos said: tsudecimo said: lebron181 said: Kite because he's by far the most professional Hunter we've seen in HxH series. He actually does hunting and contribute to the world by discovering new species and investigating the biology of the nature. Kite didn't have development. So... He had, remember young Kite? That's not character development. That's a back story. Oh god. |
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| Oh god what? there is a difference between developing a character in the current storyline/timeline of the series, which is Character development and giving a character a back story. |
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tsudecimo said: Oh god what? there is a difference between developing a character in the current storyline/timeline of the series, which is Character development and giving a character a back story. Oh you just didn't say that. |
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tsudecimo said: I'm lost. It's alright. |
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| Killua: One friendship made him think twice about cold-blooded murder. Meruem (and the ants in general). Seeing them regain their humanity (for both the good and bad) is fascinating. Welfin who was always overly suspicious and could never tell the truth. |
lebron181 said: tsudecimo said: Oh god what? there is a difference between developing a character in the current storyline/timeline of the series, which is Character development and giving a character a back story. Backstory is still considered character development. Anything that elevates the characters development should be included as character development. backstory=character fleshing out AKA letting us know why the character is what they are right now. Backstory does nothing to develop a character further since all that shit was in the past. |
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GreenSoap said: Kurapika. Fuck yes, i loved the Yorknew arc so much, atleast in the '99 version. You can really feel what he's going through, being the last of the Kurata clan. Him killing Uvogin,who's supposedly the strongest of the Phantom Troupe. It was just a blast to watch... In the '99 version.. I loved the scene where Kurapika saw the fake corpses of the Phantom Troupe. How would one describe his feelings at the time? Regret? Despair? Or an emptiness from an unfulfilled vengeance? |
judals said: Gon wanting revenge entails him turning into something else; development. Hisoka's unpredictable character lets him have this unique sort of development phases. Much as Machi described him. The part about Gon is exactly what I said. Not sure what your point was there. Hisoka is interested in the strong, and does whatever he wants. Unless that changes, Hisoka has no character development. Being unpredictable doesn't mean constant character development. |
MissileSoupMay 30, 2014 2:48 PM
MissileSoup said: judals said: Gon wanting revenge entails him turning into something else; development. Hisoka's unpredictable character lets him have this unique sort of development phases. Much as Machi described him. The part about Gon is exactly what I said. Not sure what your point was there. Hisoka is interested in the strong, and does whatever he wants. Unless that changes, Hisoka has no character development. Being unpredictable doesn't mean constant character development. Being unpredictable does however mean alternating character development based on interests. So yeah, it is development unless one-way street dev. Is tbe only thing on your mind regardng that. |
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| Hahaha. Don't change already established definitions for your own convenience. I can't believe such a simple terms has so misconceptions. If that's what character development is, then why bother even have a term for it. You are basically describing what a character is. Smh. |
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gedata said: lebron181 said: tsudecimo said: Oh god what? there is a difference between developing a character in the current storyline/timeline of the series, which is Character development and giving a character a back story. Backstory is still considered character development. Anything that elevates the characters development should be included as character development. backstory=character fleshing out AKA letting us know why the character is what they are right now. Backstory does nothing to develop a character further since all that shit was in the past. What are you talking about? They add something to the present, that's development, they add backstory, present becomes development itself. There's also present characterization that just builds them up as they go, and there are flashback/non-chronological characterization too, so that's 4 types. All very effective if done properly. |
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lebron181 said: tsudecimo said: Hahaha. Don't change already established definitions for your own convenience. I can't believe such a simple terms has so misconceptions. If that's what character development is, then why bother even have a term for it. You are basically describing what a character is. Smh. I can't help you if you already have a close-mind coming in this discussion. Only by researching it yourself would you understand it. Oh jeez. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CharacterDevelopment Please give a valid source to your nonsense before asking me to research shit. |
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tsudecimo said: lebron181 said: tsudecimo said: Hahaha. Don't change already established definitions for your own convenience. I can't believe such a simple terms has so misconceptions. If that's what character development is, then why bother even have a term for it. You are basically describing what a character is. Smh. I can't help you if you already have a close-mind coming in this discussion. Only by researching it yourself would you understand it. Oh jeez. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CharacterDevelopment Please give a valid source to your nonsense before asking me to research shit. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Flashback/AnimeAndManga |
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| Do I need to a make a definition when something already has one? what's the point. tsudecimo said: Oh god what? there is a difference between developing a character in the current storyline/timeline of the series, which is character development and giving a character a back story. There is nothing more that needs to be said. But to expand on something that should be fairly obvious. A back story build up a character, and show how they reached their current state, it doesn't change them in the current storyline or make them dynamic since it's from the past, it's just an exposition. Kite's characterizations didn't change from where Gon found him till he died, thus he didn't undergo character development. |
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| So far I'm loving the pink koala's development. |
| you sound poor |
MetalxSoldier said: So far I'm loving the pink koala's development. Lol what. Yeah, he's pretty cool. Gets very little screentime, though. For me, it would have to be Gon. |
And? This helps your point how? |
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MetalxSoldier said: So far I'm loving the pink koala's development. Most sensible character in the series imo |
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MetalxSoldier said: So far I'm loving the pink koala's development. We need a separate anime with that guy as the protagonist.... lol |
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judals said: MissileSoup said: judals said: Gon wanting revenge entails him turning into something else; development. Hisoka's unpredictable character lets him have this unique sort of development phases. Much as Machi described him. The part about Gon is exactly what I said. Not sure what your point was there. Hisoka is interested in the strong, and does whatever he wants. Unless that changes, Hisoka has no character development. Being unpredictable doesn't mean constant character development. Being unpredictable does however mean alternating character development based on interests. So yeah, it is development unless one-way street dev. Is tbe only thing on your mind regardng that. Yeah, completely wrong. Unpredictable based on interest? Lets see. Hisoka takes an interest in Gon: because he sees potential in Gon. Hisoka joins Heaven's Arena: to fight Kastro. Hisoka joins Spiders: to fight Chrollo. Hisoka enters Greed Island: to bring back Chrollo. Where's the change in interest? Hisoka lusts after strength, that is the reason behind his actions. Furthermore, unpredictability isn't character development. e.g. Gon wants to eat steak. Suddenly he wants to eat pasta. Not character development. Hisoka has absolutely no development. Either you don't understand Hisoka, or you don't understand character development. |
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lebron181 said: You can't explain in your own words how backstory is not considered character development I already did genius. lebron181 said: but somehow saying what is the point if the definition is already given to me? So people are suppose to be sheep following whatever without understand the term? I guess you are right. I'm going to stop being a sheep and have arbitrary definitions to everything. I mean are you even seeing how stupid this is? there is a definition to the term, that seems logical and efficient. Do I need to make a new definition to make a point? lebron181 said: There are million different terminologies that can be explained for character development but if you're not ready to defend your reasoning, then why debate it? No there is not, and you have yet to explain how is having a back story directly relevant to and one and the same as character development. Am I supposed to just believe whatever unfounded nonsense you come up with? lebron181 said: In the HunterxHunter 2011 anime adaptation they skipped the whole Gon and Kite meeting that is very important to establish the relationship and give us the reason why Gon suddenly took the journey to become a Hunter. Kite was the first hunter Gon had met and he became a father figure to him. Gon respected Kite very much and learned important life lessons which made their bond close to an actual father. Now, people who are anime viewers became confused as to why Gon cared so much about Kite and would go so far as to commit suicide in order to have vengeance upon Pitou. This is were I find Madhouse to have made the mistake of skipping the part and having the whole story revolving Kite be shown only after post-Greed Island. That is completely irrelevant to Kite's character, and whether or not he had character development. That is relevant to Gon, his relationship with him, and the character development that was catalyzed by it. Showing Kite earlier would have made no difference to the point you are trying to make. Unless Kite was introduced with different characterization before the Chimera Ant arc, which he wasn't. |
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| Killua, then Meruem. Their development has been masterful. |
| I will not agree to disagree. You aren't basing this ''back story is character development'' thing on anything or expanding it, but yet have the audacity to tell me to do that. I think you know you are wrong and just don't want to admit like the rest of the internet population when it comes to any argument. So what if he was introduced in the beginning? was he or was he not, introduced with different characterization to his Chimera ant character. That's what matters, the rest is irrelevant. Listing Kite, is the same as listing Hisoka, just listing your favorite character, because neither of them had any resemblance of character development. Giving more understanding of the character is fleshing out, it doesn't mean he was developed. Building up characterization =/= Character development. Good example of this is Pitou and Pouf. An example of undeniable character development is Meruem and Youpi. |
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